I am a Clinical Lab Scientist. I do not and never have believed in evil-oution. I don't recall seeing primates still walking out of the wilderness, nor do I see groups of cave men randomly springing up in the wild. Those things would be here if the half .... theories they present us were true. Dig a little deeper. God is real, He believes in U even if U don't believe in Him. Write hate mail, I don't care. Nothing hurts me when its in defense of God. NOTHING. God bless all of you. Sisterly hugs!
Professor Veith is telling the truth, giving glory to God and exposing evil agencies! I can recommend a book called "The great controversy between Christ and satan"
I'm confused - he starts out saying his mother was Roman Catholic, later his nun tells him his mother will burn in hell for being a Protestant? Have I missed something?
I can explain his change easily... he became a religious fundamentalist and then everything JUST had to be inline with the bible.... so... yup creation is true.
Please... lol
Show me an advocate of creation who is not religious.
I can show you millions of advocates of evolution who are and aren't religious.
Evidence is the authority... not a book written by the uneducated riff raff 2000 years ago.
@robman8855 What you have is a fine religion. Full of 'facts' that are nothing more than 'best guess'.
If you like, you can throw around big words, condemning statements, the reality of evolution and its proven facts. However, you are only quoting scripture that has been passed down in your religious books, magazines, overthrown schools, etc.
There are plenty of schools peddling your religion. What do you hope to do here?
@mleonyt LMAO. The teachings of Jesus in John r very different from those found in the synoptic gospels. Mainstream theological historians tend to discount the historical value of John. Shoot, the gospel of John doesn't even give an account of the Nativity of Jesus (like it isn't important), unlike those of Matthew and Luke. The bible is a collection of stories told years after the fact by various sources & then voted on in order to make and sell a story. It's merely the best selling book ever.
You have just committed a logical fallacy.Two religions that have two different teachings can't BOTH be right.For example:Islam says God has no SON,Christianity says God had a Son,now both can be wrong,but both can't be right.Christianity says that Jesus Christ is God in flesh,every other religion denies this,there fore they all disagree with Christianity.Jesus died and was raised,and lives today,no other religious leader has done this,only Jesus.
@CBALLEN "Jesus died and was raised,and lives today,no other religious leader has done this,only Jesus."
LOL!!! Really... what about... Asclepius, Alcmene, Castor, Heracles, Melicertes, Bodhidharma, Puhua, Osiris... and hundreds more. The jesus myth is just another folk lore pilled on another folk lore... just like every religious denomination/sect, you add a couple new stories and call it a new religion.
It's important to understand that there is a BIG, BIG difference between science and belief systems. Scientific laws and theories are tools used to solve problems. Religions are things you believe in. Evolution is NOT something you believe in. It is a tool used to solve problems... like your hammer. You don't believe in your hammer, you use it to solve problems.
I invite you all to visit our newly launched website, "Sabbatismos." We pray you'll be blessed by what we have to share about Ellen White, the Seventh-day Adventist prophetess that Walter Veith follows.
Just curious creationist: how are reptiles on the American continents, using your creation model? If Noah's flood killed everything on earth, how could reptiles access a land to which there was only arctic land bridges to travel over? No reptile can survive arctic conditions. American reptiles disprove creation indefinitely (among many other things).
As you said, "...on earth." Crocodiles would not be killed by a flood, even if the whole world was covered by water, sharks would still live, fish would still live, crocs would still live.
What is the time span between Genesis 1:1 and genesis 1:2?
This is not the church. and I would not say this in the church. Outside of the church we are to preach to those that don't understand or know. But for a "Christian" to mix new age beliefs in with christianity is very dangerous for the spread of truth. You don't spread Christianity through error. Due you realize when you do this that persons soul is on your hands? We are to lead those to christ with truth and truth alone. Creation is biblical no other explanation needed. The End :)
@incredible916 Yes, true creation is biblical I agree with you 100percent.This video by Walter Veith is only his testimony how he can to know the Lord Jesus Christ. Your friend in Christ.
that's just typical to say. remove all irrelevant comments. i may be a christian (what ever that means anymore) but it's people like you that i meet at church who are so easily offended at little things. which is partially why there is so much of this censoring bullshit. Fuck the FCC.
Truth being if you were a creationist, and now believe in evolution its safe to say you were not really a christian at all just had the title. If its that easy to turn away from the truth its safe to assume you werent well grounded in the word.
Why do people comment on things that have nothing to do with what this video is about. Channel host please remove all irrelevant comments. People should comment on the testimony not evolution
1. The 2nd law of thermodynamics applies to open systems, ther are no closed systems concerning order.
2. evolution in the wide sense is each process, it is any view of reality over the time axis. illusions of time and evolution are equivalent.
3. Mr. Veith's antithesis of evolution and creation works just by reducing evolution to the princple of selection. Selection is not even the center Darwins's work!
I agree, TexanDeist. I used to be a creationist, and now I accept evolution. This guy must have never met Theodosius Dobzhansky, a devout Christian who said "nothing in the biological sciences makes sense except in light of evolution." The Genesis story in the bible doesn't have to be taken 100% literally.
BIOLOGY- says life comes from life. Evolution says life came from no life. Evolution violates a fundamental law of biology.
THERMODYNAMICS - the 2nd law, entropy, says that processes naturally move toward a more disordered state. Things don't naturally increase in order but evolution says they do, violating the 2nd law of Thermodynamics.
STATISTICS - look at all the variables present in the pool...what are the odds of them randomly making life again & again over millions of years?
Abiogenesis says life comes from no life, not evolution. Evolution is the change of allele frequencies over time. The 2nd law of thermodynamics only applies to closed systems. Evolution is an open system. The law of large numbers makes very unlikely phenomena possible.
I am still interested in these questions, but I want to apologize to you because when I wrote them I was somewhat defensive, my pride was offended, and I felt (in my heart) some "prove it to me" attitude. So I am sorry for this. Thank you!-ml
1. Biological evolution can be applied only to biological systems, abiogenesis is something different than biological evolution.
2. Biological evolution is a process that takes place in open systems - living organisms.
3. It is the so-called "law of large numbers". In short, it means that if you conduct an experiment for a situation with the probability X% a large number of times, the occurence of the situation would be X% in all outcomes.
Bonus: It is possible to reduce entropy in open systems (remember that living organisms are such systems). Imagine yourself eating food. You reduce your entropy at the expence of the food's entropy.
Now I have a question for you:
If it is true that an intelligent agent created the universe ex nihilo, please present a consistent scientific theory that describes this creation (with the math, experiments, observations and everything).
@mleonyt Abiogenesis is merely the study of how the first few strands of DNA formed and how the replicating of the thymine, guanine, cytocine, and adenine eventually led to representing codes of protiens being synthesized... evolution is the study of mutations in this process leading to the advancement in the complexity of life
@mleonyt You should realize that creationist natural selection means speciation from the species to ~the family level and was published LONG before Darwin's ideas (the unique ones of which are ~family to kingdom level). There are many videos at BereanBerean on youtube showing the scientific basis for Creation.
Watch
watch?v=V4UWWkxeucE (Genes of Genesis, one of several videos in his series "The Genesis Conflict")
@cre8ivmind Typical evotard nonsense you hear from Ken Miller among others. Changes in allele frequency, which is changing the frequency in which already existing genes are expressed isn't evolution. The very definition of what it is, proves the point. Epxressing already existing genes doesn't produce new morphological structures, actually over a period of time, it results in a loss of information, not gain.
@cre8ivmind Also, the universe is a closed system. The moon gets the same sunlight and amount of energy from the sun, that the earth does, yet nothing evolves there. Adding energy is destructive unless there is something that can use it. Everything tends towards disorder. Adding energy doesn't create increasing complexity, it destroys things.
The moon does no such thing. The moon may get the same energy, but it heats up and cools down much more extremely than the Earth. This is due to the different atmospheres. Matter comes in and leaves along with energy, which is the very definition of an open system.
@mleonyt It's important to understand that there is a BIG, BIG difference between science and belief systems. Scientific laws and theories are tools used to solve problems. Religions are things you believe in. Evolution is NOT something you believe in. It is a tool used to solve problems... like your hammer. You don't believe in your hammer, you use it to solve problems.
@mleonyt Darwin wrote ''Origin of Species'' NOT origin of life.
From age 2 to 10 did you ''move toward a more disordered state?'' Life violates the 2nd Law by your definition. ''making life again & again over millions of years''? Life only had to start once.
@mleonyt Where the hell has evolution ever been sited to say Life comes from No life? That's possibly the most ignorant statement I've ever read. Evolution is just shows the progress of life on earth as it changes due to natural selection. It's creationism that says life just popped into existence because a magician willed it to be.
Perhaps you should take a closer look as to why Walter Veith, Ph.D Zoologist, went from teaching Evolution to accepting Creation? Perhaps he has been exposed to more info than you can possibly imagine? Walter Veith has more knowledge than most people can even begin to comprehend. He even admitted "I used to SLAUGHTER my students who dared believe in creation".
Professor Veith also admits that giving up Evolution was one of the hardest things to do for him. It was a painful transition. However, he said that he was forced to leave the theory based on the evidence. The evidence was just too overwhelming for him. It was difficult for his opponents to challenge him because of his credentials. Nobody was able to say a single thing against his credentials, because his level of learning was the very top in the scientific/academic world.
@Lysimachus78 Evidence for what? There is absolutely no evidence the earth is only 6000 years old. It was painful for me to leave creationism, because the evidence for the earth's age of 4.5 billion years was overwhelming. Notice I'm not making points about evolution now; just geology and astronomy. I've watched many of Veith's videos and am not convinced, because he makes so many false assumptions and dishonest statements.
Please describe, in a nutshell, the scientific formula that is convincing to you, and why you believe it is able to accurately date the age of the earth to 4.5 billion years? How do you know for certain the methods of measuring the breakdown rate of matter can actually establish anything at all beyond 5,000 years?
@Lysimachus78 Dozens of radiometric dating methods have been used, in addition to astronomical evidence, that point to roughly the same age. If these methods were wrong, then certainly they would vary from one another by very wide margins. There would have to be strong evidence the earth is only 6,000 years old, if it is. But only evidence for a very old earth has been found.
@cre8ivmind Maybe the evidence against an old earth has been suppressed...i mean why do scientists scrub off the red ochre on supposed Neanderthal skulls to make them seem like they are tens of thousands to hundreds of thousand years old? When they are not...
@cre8ivmind It's important to understand that there is a BIG, BIG difference between science and belief systems. Scientific laws and theories are tools used to solve problems. Religions are things you believe in. Evolution is NOT something you believe in. It is a tool used to solve problems... like your hammer. You don't believe in your hammer, you use it to solve problems.
@JerseyMarine311 The evolutionary model is utilized when applying mutation rates to solve problems in forensics. It is used to offer potential speciation time-lines and offers insight to natural history (It is the best model/tool we have when applied organismal geographical distribution, biodiversity, phylogenetics, etc). The evolutionary model can easily be tested and observed by means of artificial selection (which is used to create more desireable traits in domestic plants and animals).
@JerseyMarine311 The evolutionary model is not something you believe in. It is the current best tool to solve problems as described in my last paragraph. The evolutionary model is expected to be improved upon as new discoveries are made. Just like your hammer. For centuries, the hammer was the best tool available for driving nails into wood; until the nail gun came along to replace the hammer as a "better" tool. Whatever you do, don't believe in evolution.
@JerseyMarine311 it has explained why human beings act the way they do and how we opperate and move by comparison to some of our distant evolutionary ancestors... genetic research is on the verge of curing hundreds of diseases and now we can even explain why we think the way we think... evolution has solved many problems because it is a completely valid statement of scientific fact...
@cre8ivmind It's not just Genesis. Prophets, apostles, Jesus all through the Bible speak of creation literally. When Christians followed popular ideas instead of the Bible it caused things like Galileo's trial (the church followed Greek science and that's what Galileo was conflicting with, NOT the Bible) and it caused Christians to follow the practice of bleeding patients when they were sick which killed millions. Christians who deny Genesis are making the same error.
@k12rising The point is that you can consider evolution a fact and still believe in a supernatural deity. Hence why the vast majority of Christian scientists and scholars consider them compatible. Most of those who don't completely deny science see the Creation story as allegorical rather than literal. Although I am personally not Christian, it is insane to believe that you can't believe in both
That "nun" that taunted him with his mother going to "hell" is disturbing. I wonder where she is right now...
indibabs122275 5 months ago
I am a Clinical Lab Scientist. I do not and never have believed in evil-oution. I don't recall seeing primates still walking out of the wilderness, nor do I see groups of cave men randomly springing up in the wild. Those things would be here if the half .... theories they present us were true. Dig a little deeper. God is real, He believes in U even if U don't believe in Him. Write hate mail, I don't care. Nothing hurts me when its in defense of God. NOTHING. God bless all of you. Sisterly hugs!
indibabs122275 5 months ago
I have watched & listened to this Gentleman for over 100 hours. In the
"Total Onslaught" series Professor Veith explains everything through Quotes
and not his opinion. The more you watch & listen, the more you understand.
He preaches the true word of God through demonstration. Check it out.
garboonusmc 6 months ago
This man is beautiful. God bless him always!
indibabs122275 7 months ago
May God bless.be bless
sighandcrywemust 7 months ago
CHRISTIANS ARE DIRTY . . . .
th3inquisitiv31 11 months ago
great story
dragosdys 1 year ago
PRAISE GOD!!!! Amen! The Lord Jesus is Good!
If only more people were this informed, soo many just easily dismiss God
" seek and ye shall find"
ASKBELLA1 1 year ago
Walter Veith is a man blessed by God
CristyFIare 1 year ago
Professor Veith is telling the truth, giving glory to God and exposing evil agencies! I can recommend a book called "The great controversy between Christ and satan"
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boldhero44 1 year ago
I'm confused - he starts out saying his mother was Roman Catholic, later his nun tells him his mother will burn in hell for being a Protestant? Have I missed something?
AntonStyles 1 year ago
@AntonStyles Yes you did miss something, he says his mother was a LUTHERAN and his father was a roman catholic.
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@AntonStyles Yes you did miss something, he says his mother was a LUTHERAN and his father was a roman catholic.
TheNorseman99 1 year ago
I can explain his change easily... he became a religious fundamentalist and then everything JUST had to be inline with the bible.... so... yup creation is true.
Please... lol
Show me an advocate of creation who is not religious.
I can show you millions of advocates of evolution who are and aren't religious.
Evidence is the authority... not a book written by the uneducated riff raff 2000 years ago.
kailabreece 1 year ago
They most make a movie of his childhood.
lukaqota 1 year ago
@robman8855 What you have is a fine religion. Full of 'facts' that are nothing more than 'best guess'.
If you like, you can throw around big words, condemning statements, the reality of evolution and its proven facts. However, you are only quoting scripture that has been passed down in your religious books, magazines, overthrown schools, etc.
There are plenty of schools peddling your religion. What do you hope to do here?
The wisdom of the world is foolishness to God.
taaronemore74 1 year ago
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This is an excellent testimony!!! If you will listen and you are half open, you will hear the truth,
loveseventiesshows 1 year ago
christianity is not the only true religion
mohit1234568 1 year ago
@mohit1234568 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. (John 14:6)
mleonyt 1 year ago 20
@mleonyt LMAO. The teachings of Jesus in John r very different from those found in the synoptic gospels. Mainstream theological historians tend to discount the historical value of John. Shoot, the gospel of John doesn't even give an account of the Nativity of Jesus (like it isn't important), unlike those of Matthew and Luke. The bible is a collection of stories told years after the fact by various sources & then voted on in order to make and sell a story. It's merely the best selling book ever.
kailabreece 1 year ago
"christianity is not the only true religion"
You have just committed a logical fallacy.Two religions that have two different teachings can't BOTH be right.For example:Islam says God has no SON,Christianity says God had a Son,now both can be wrong,but both can't be right.Christianity says that Jesus Christ is God in flesh,every other religion denies this,there fore they all disagree with Christianity.Jesus died and was raised,and lives today,no other religious leader has done this,only Jesus.
CBALLEN 1 year ago
@CBALLEN "Jesus died and was raised,and lives today,no other religious leader has done this,only Jesus."
LOL!!! Really... what about... Asclepius, Alcmene, Castor, Heracles, Melicertes, Bodhidharma, Puhua, Osiris... and hundreds more. The jesus myth is just another folk lore pilled on another folk lore... just like every religious denomination/sect, you add a couple new stories and call it a new religion.
kailabreece 1 year ago
@mohit1234568
By it's very definition, there can only be one truth.
Amarx00 1 year ago
@mohit1234568 yes it is
k12rising 7 months ago
@mohit1234568 There is no other way to heaven except through Christ.....according to the scriptures.
njp2020 6 months ago
It's important to understand that there is a BIG, BIG difference between science and belief systems. Scientific laws and theories are tools used to solve problems. Religions are things you believe in. Evolution is NOT something you believe in. It is a tool used to solve problems... like your hammer. You don't believe in your hammer, you use it to solve problems.
blaisingm 1 year ago
5:58 Hilarious.
earlybird3 1 year ago
I invite you all to visit our newly launched website, "Sabbatismos." We pray you'll be blessed by what we have to share about Ellen White, the Seventh-day Adventist prophetess that Walter Veith follows.
Blessings in Christ,
Sabbatismos (Heb. 4:9)
Sabbatismos49 1 year ago
Just curious creationist: how are reptiles on the American continents, using your creation model? If Noah's flood killed everything on earth, how could reptiles access a land to which there was only arctic land bridges to travel over? No reptile can survive arctic conditions. American reptiles disprove creation indefinitely (among many other things).
DavidMisFappage 1 year ago
@DavidMisFappage
Your question itself contradicts itself:
"If Noah's flood killed everything on earth...?"
As you said, "...on earth." Crocodiles would not be killed by a flood, even if the whole world was covered by water, sharks would still live, fish would still live, crocs would still live.
What is the time span between Genesis 1:1 and genesis 1:2?
IkeDyson 1 year ago
This is not the church. and I would not say this in the church. Outside of the church we are to preach to those that don't understand or know. But for a "Christian" to mix new age beliefs in with christianity is very dangerous for the spread of truth. You don't spread Christianity through error. Due you realize when you do this that persons soul is on your hands? We are to lead those to christ with truth and truth alone. Creation is biblical no other explanation needed. The End :)
incredible916 2 years ago 6
@incredible916 Yes, true creation is biblical I agree with you 100percent.This video by Walter Veith is only his testimony how he can to know the Lord Jesus Christ. Your friend in Christ.
health100percent 2 years ago
Obey God
Resist the system
vesperus1981 2 years ago
that's just typical to say. remove all irrelevant comments. i may be a christian (what ever that means anymore) but it's people like you that i meet at church who are so easily offended at little things. which is partially why there is so much of this censoring bullshit. Fuck the FCC.
darksideofozproduct 2 years ago
Truth being if you were a creationist, and now believe in evolution its safe to say you were not really a christian at all just had the title. If its that easy to turn away from the truth its safe to assume you werent well grounded in the word.
incredible916 2 years ago
Why do people comment on things that have nothing to do with what this video is about. Channel host please remove all irrelevant comments. People should comment on the testimony not evolution
incredible916 2 years ago
But if you bonks me on the bean, maybe the old man will surface. I dunno. I fight against him all the time.
Bugzelot 2 years ago
regardless of "closed systems" or "open systems", this testimony is worth watching. no one can argue with someone's true personal experiences.
politiks707 2 years ago
1. The 2nd law of thermodynamics applies to open systems, ther are no closed systems concerning order.
2. evolution in the wide sense is each process, it is any view of reality over the time axis. illusions of time and evolution are equivalent.
3. Mr. Veith's antithesis of evolution and creation works just by reducing evolution to the princple of selection. Selection is not even the center Darwins's work!
Bobbel888 2 years ago
I agree, TexanDeist. I used to be a creationist, and now I accept evolution. This guy must have never met Theodosius Dobzhansky, a devout Christian who said "nothing in the biological sciences makes sense except in light of evolution." The Genesis story in the bible doesn't have to be taken 100% literally.
cre8ivmind 3 years ago
BIOLOGY- says life comes from life. Evolution says life came from no life. Evolution violates a fundamental law of biology.
THERMODYNAMICS - the 2nd law, entropy, says that processes naturally move toward a more disordered state. Things don't naturally increase in order but evolution says they do, violating the 2nd law of Thermodynamics.
STATISTICS - look at all the variables present in the pool...what are the odds of them randomly making life again & again over millions of years?
mleonyt 3 years ago 3
Abiogenesis says life comes from no life, not evolution. Evolution is the change of allele frequencies over time. The 2nd law of thermodynamics only applies to closed systems. Evolution is an open system. The law of large numbers makes very unlikely phenomena possible.
cre8ivmind 3 years ago
hey thanks for writing! Some things I don't understand; might be hard to explain in a comment but I'd appreciate anything you have to say:
--How does evolution come from life and how is it not abiogenesis?
--How is evolution an open system?
--How do great numbers distort statistics? (If I'm understanding your point correctly).
Thank you!
mleonyt 3 years ago
hey cre8ivmind!
I am still interested in these questions, but I want to apologize to you because when I wrote them I was somewhat defensive, my pride was offended, and I felt (in my heart) some "prove it to me" attitude. So I am sorry for this. Thank you!-ml
mleonyt 3 years ago
@mleonyt
1. Biological evolution can be applied only to biological systems, abiogenesis is something different than biological evolution.
2. Biological evolution is a process that takes place in open systems - living organisms.
3. It is the so-called "law of large numbers". In short, it means that if you conduct an experiment for a situation with the probability X% a large number of times, the occurence of the situation would be X% in all outcomes.
whispersilk 10 months ago
@mleonyt
Bonus: It is possible to reduce entropy in open systems (remember that living organisms are such systems). Imagine yourself eating food. You reduce your entropy at the expence of the food's entropy.
Now I have a question for you:
If it is true that an intelligent agent created the universe ex nihilo, please present a consistent scientific theory that describes this creation (with the math, experiments, observations and everything).
whispersilk 10 months ago
@mleonyt Abiogenesis is merely the study of how the first few strands of DNA formed and how the replicating of the thymine, guanine, cytocine, and adenine eventually led to representing codes of protiens being synthesized... evolution is the study of mutations in this process leading to the advancement in the complexity of life
robman8855 1 year ago
@mleonyt You should realize that creationist natural selection means speciation from the species to ~the family level and was published LONG before Darwin's ideas (the unique ones of which are ~family to kingdom level). There are many videos at BereanBerean on youtube showing the scientific basis for Creation.
Watch
watch?v=V4UWWkxeucE (Genes of Genesis, one of several videos in his series "The Genesis Conflict")
Also, see this historical evidence for the Bible.
watch?v=2IlxNWAsSOk
dotoree 1 year ago
@mleonyt
1. evolution and abiogenesis are seperate areas of study.
2. evolution OCCURS in an open system, the Earth.
3. If something has a 1/1 mil chance of happening and there are, say, 10 trillion chances for it to happen, it will happen several times.
nukepwetty 10 months ago
@cre8ivmind Typical evotard nonsense you hear from Ken Miller among others. Changes in allele frequency, which is changing the frequency in which already existing genes are expressed isn't evolution. The very definition of what it is, proves the point. Epxressing already existing genes doesn't produce new morphological structures, actually over a period of time, it results in a loss of information, not gain.
micah1116 1 year ago
@cre8ivmind Also, the universe is a closed system. The moon gets the same sunlight and amount of energy from the sun, that the earth does, yet nothing evolves there. Adding energy is destructive unless there is something that can use it. Everything tends towards disorder. Adding energy doesn't create increasing complexity, it destroys things.
micah1116 1 year ago
@micah1116
The moon does no such thing. The moon may get the same energy, but it heats up and cools down much more extremely than the Earth. This is due to the different atmospheres. Matter comes in and leaves along with energy, which is the very definition of an open system.
nukepwetty 10 months ago
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@mleonyt It's important to understand that there is a BIG, BIG difference between science and belief systems. Scientific laws and theories are tools used to solve problems. Religions are things you believe in. Evolution is NOT something you believe in. It is a tool used to solve problems... like your hammer. You don't believe in your hammer, you use it to solve problems.
blaisingm 1 year ago
@mleonyt Darwin wrote ''Origin of Species'' NOT origin of life.
From age 2 to 10 did you ''move toward a more disordered state?'' Life violates the 2nd Law by your definition. ''making life again & again over millions of years''? Life only had to start once.
gregrutz 1 year ago
@mleonyt Where the hell has evolution ever been sited to say Life comes from No life? That's possibly the most ignorant statement I've ever read. Evolution is just shows the progress of life on earth as it changes due to natural selection. It's creationism that says life just popped into existence because a magician willed it to be.
cukasi 1 year ago
@cre8ivmind
Perhaps you should take a closer look as to why Walter Veith, Ph.D Zoologist, went from teaching Evolution to accepting Creation? Perhaps he has been exposed to more info than you can possibly imagine? Walter Veith has more knowledge than most people can even begin to comprehend. He even admitted "I used to SLAUGHTER my students who dared believe in creation".
Lysimachus78 1 year ago
@cre8ivmind
Professor Veith also admits that giving up Evolution was one of the hardest things to do for him. It was a painful transition. However, he said that he was forced to leave the theory based on the evidence. The evidence was just too overwhelming for him. It was difficult for his opponents to challenge him because of his credentials. Nobody was able to say a single thing against his credentials, because his level of learning was the very top in the scientific/academic world.
Lysimachus78 1 year ago
@Lysimachus78 Evidence for what? There is absolutely no evidence the earth is only 6000 years old. It was painful for me to leave creationism, because the evidence for the earth's age of 4.5 billion years was overwhelming. Notice I'm not making points about evolution now; just geology and astronomy. I've watched many of Veith's videos and am not convinced, because he makes so many false assumptions and dishonest statements.
cre8ivmind 1 year ago
@cre8ivmind
Please describe, in a nutshell, the scientific formula that is convincing to you, and why you believe it is able to accurately date the age of the earth to 4.5 billion years? How do you know for certain the methods of measuring the breakdown rate of matter can actually establish anything at all beyond 5,000 years?
Lysimachus78 1 year ago
@Lysimachus78 Dozens of radiometric dating methods have been used, in addition to astronomical evidence, that point to roughly the same age. If these methods were wrong, then certainly they would vary from one another by very wide margins. There would have to be strong evidence the earth is only 6,000 years old, if it is. But only evidence for a very old earth has been found.
cre8ivmind 1 year ago
@cre8ivmind Maybe the evidence against an old earth has been suppressed...i mean why do scientists scrub off the red ochre on supposed Neanderthal skulls to make them seem like they are tens of thousands to hundreds of thousand years old? When they are not...
bigspliffs 1 year ago 2
@cre8ivmind It's important to understand that there is a BIG, BIG difference between science and belief systems. Scientific laws and theories are tools used to solve problems. Religions are things you believe in. Evolution is NOT something you believe in. It is a tool used to solve problems... like your hammer. You don't believe in your hammer, you use it to solve problems.
blaisingm 1 year ago
@blaisingm how has the theory of evolution ever solved anything?
JerseyMarine311 1 year ago
@JerseyMarine311 The evolutionary model is utilized when applying mutation rates to solve problems in forensics. It is used to offer potential speciation time-lines and offers insight to natural history (It is the best model/tool we have when applied organismal geographical distribution, biodiversity, phylogenetics, etc). The evolutionary model can easily be tested and observed by means of artificial selection (which is used to create more desireable traits in domestic plants and animals).
blaisingm 1 year ago
@JerseyMarine311 The evolutionary model is not something you believe in. It is the current best tool to solve problems as described in my last paragraph. The evolutionary model is expected to be improved upon as new discoveries are made. Just like your hammer. For centuries, the hammer was the best tool available for driving nails into wood; until the nail gun came along to replace the hammer as a "better" tool. Whatever you do, don't believe in evolution.
blaisingm 1 year ago
@JerseyMarine311 it has explained why human beings act the way they do and how we opperate and move by comparison to some of our distant evolutionary ancestors... genetic research is on the verge of curing hundreds of diseases and now we can even explain why we think the way we think... evolution has solved many problems because it is a completely valid statement of scientific fact...
robman8855 1 year ago
@cre8ivmind It's not just Genesis. Prophets, apostles, Jesus all through the Bible speak of creation literally. When Christians followed popular ideas instead of the Bible it caused things like Galileo's trial (the church followed Greek science and that's what Galileo was conflicting with, NOT the Bible) and it caused Christians to follow the practice of bleeding patients when they were sick which killed millions. Christians who deny Genesis are making the same error.
dotoree 1 year ago
@cre8ivmind too bad how could u still beleive in evolution despite all the evidence against it? your not being honest with yourself.
k12rising 8 months ago
@k12rising 99.5% of experts disagree with you, sorry
TheGamanic 7 months ago
@TheGamanic which "experts" are these?
k12rising 7 months ago
@k12rising Every single publishing university biology professor of any repute for the last 50 years
TheGamanic 7 months ago
@cre8ivmind congratulations u have been tricked by the efforts of Neo-Darwinism.
k12rising 7 months ago
@k12rising *rationality :)
TheGamanic 7 months ago
@TheGamanic its not rational to deny god
k12rising 7 months ago
@k12rising The point is that you can consider evolution a fact and still believe in a supernatural deity. Hence why the vast majority of Christian scientists and scholars consider them compatible. Most of those who don't completely deny science see the Creation story as allegorical rather than literal. Although I am personally not Christian, it is insane to believe that you can't believe in both
TheGamanic 7 months ago
One would have to not have sufficient understanding of evolution in order to stop accepting the scientific fact.
TexanDeist 3 years ago