@PRSwannaB i wouldn't guess that they died, because the airplane wasn't above the clouds, and it wasn't going fast, so a few minor injuries, but maybe they were found by a resque helicopter.
Poor guy, I just keep coming back to this trying to learn from it. I am a student pilot with a Cessna 172 Skyhawk. Each time I watch this I yell No, turn left!
Makes you want to join in and tell the pilot to turn before it is too late. At 3:20 around they seem to be already too close to terrain. One can only wonder why the pilot still ramained en route with the mountain right there in front. This is a dramatic footage - makes you shiver.
I'm just a private pilot. I'm no bush or mountain pilot, but if I thought I was some how about to be boxed in somewhere, especially at high altitude, I would try to get the aircraft close to the side of the valley so that I could make a shallow and safe turn out. In this case, noticing that I was about to be boxed in, I would have flown close to the right side of the valley and turned out of it to the left. He was in the center, but might have made it if he chose to turn out to the left.
@TheUoru. The aircraft was not recoverable at this altitude.The plane entered whats known as an ''Accelerated stall in a turn''.It then gained speed in the dive and attempts to recover from the stall all by itself. This gives the plane a roller coaster type effect and looks as if the pilot is pulling back on the stick, but he is not.The pilot must first level his wings, but he is unable, because the ground is coming up faster than the plane can react.
thebullmck is right on. I think he had three options and failed all three. Spiral climb up over the lake, make a 180 and go back at that same location or last choice turn left slowly, but fast enough to to keep clear of the trees. NEVER let yourself get into a no way out stituation. I couldn't belive he just kept flying towards the mountain. I bet his vertical climb was less than 300fpm
@222triple Right at the end im thinking well he needs to turn left as hes got a hill on his right. Next he turns RIGHT... oh dear... climbing hard turn - he had no chance. If only he had gone left. Especially at higher altitude where prop power is less. Other factors could have been ridge sink which as wel are taught is lethal and unless you know which way the wind is playing never to fly near the lea of hills. What did he shout at the end? My condolences.
In a situation like this, would it be beneficial to follow closer to one ridge vs flying down the center of 2 ridges in the event you have to turn around? That way your exit plan is to fly away from the ridge your following, cutting across the valley and coming up against the adjacent ridge all in the shallowest bank you can acheive?
There's one thing I haven't noticed in the comments, is orographic illusion, which is another common killer when flying around mountains. Particularly being so close to a gently sloping mountain.
Density Altitude is a silent killer, and an unknown to many pilots. This video is shocking, and very very sad at the same time. A few years ago, a fellow pilot, and all 5 his passengers died, when their Cessna 210 stalled, crashed into a house, and caught fire a few seconds after take-off. Conditions were similar to this, high density altitude, insufficient take-off speed, rising terrain, and added windshear, and sadly, excessive weight, and aft C.G. Very sad indeed. Rest in peace my friend.
@davidcm80. This is a little more than a basic mistake. The pilot should of been thinking of where his aircraft was going to be in five minutes time, he did not do that. He was heading for trouble once he past the lake, but it took him a further two minutes to realize it. It was all over for them once he turned right, when the plane stalled he was too low to recover no matter what he did. He failed to consider what the consequences of turning right would be.
did they have an ELT? cause they found their bodies years after the damn accident...I think they could have found them withing hours or days after the crash
@OhJaniceWhyOhWhy I don't know. It looks very far from any town or city. They must have been far as hell. I think the reason why they weren't found may have something to do with their ELT (Emergency Locator Transmitter). This device gets activated on impacts that cause quick dis-acceleration like the one on this video. It transmits a signal usually for 48 hours that can be picked by ATC , rescuers, and sattellites. I'm speculating here, i don't know much about this accident.
I don't know why some pilots only don't remember how to recover from a power on stall what is a such basic manuever. his first mistake was turn right (closer to terrain) the second maybe was an improper fuel mixture setting (judging from the lack of power) if he was at 10,000msl the service ceiling of a L-19 is about 15,000msl and you said the density altitude was about 13,000msl that's suposed to let him climb 2000 feet more high but with less performance.
The wreckage of this crashed airplane was not discovered until 3 years after the accident. Apparently the video tape was hanging from tree branches but somehow survived 3 years of exposure to the elements.
No. I guess you missed the news, but they survived and have just recently returned into public life after being missing for nearly 30 years after the crash. They've since become international celebrities having survived the ordeal, and are now scheduled to be contestants on the next Dancing With The Stars... coming this fall on ABC.
Subsequent analysis of the footage revealed that the pilot had not taken into account the density altitude conditions that existed on the day of the flight. The aircraft was unable to climb away from steadily rising terrain due to the fact that it was essentially at or above its service ceiling, and in an attempt to remedy the situation, the pilot stalled the airplane three times during a steep bank to the right. The pilot could be heard yelling, "Damn, hang on Ronnie!" before it crashed. -Wiki
@spencey820 The air thins as you gain altitude, which means both reduced lift and reduced thrust (power). In a turn, you also have to give up lift. The pilot was in high altitude and didnt give himself enough space to turn without losing lift altogether. If he had more room between his plane and the ground, he can put his nose down so the plane will gain more speed, and lift, but he didnt. Pilot error through and through.
A chilling video of what compounding errors can mean when you're in an airplane. That being said given your take on the situation av8rdav, If you are an instructor I hope you've kept learning. The aircraft was near a stall 3 times, but back pressure was relieved. Also lift was not a factor in the end because he entered an incipient spin. So saying that he needed to produce more lift is redundant.
you can definitely hear the engine start to splutter before the trouble starts. Loss of engine power does not mean the engine stops running. It can be so hard to detect
@210482fmj I thought the video sounded like the engine was sputtering too but the fact that the pilot didn't comment on it leads me to believe it was just an effect of the recording.
@RobertGary1 perhaps he didn't notice it. HIs engine may of perhaps lost 20hp. One thing some people forget is that engines don't just fail but also lose certain amount of power output.
@RobertGary1 The video equipment was badly damaged when the plane went down. The camcorder and videotape case also melted in the post-crash fire so the spool itself was exposed to the elements until the crash site was found three years later. The erase head probably got smashed into the spool and partially melted it during the fire because the pattern in the visual static mostly matches the pattern in the seemingly sputtering sound of the engine.
Wtf is he thinking turning directly into that ridge at a plane that isn't exactly at max performance at this density altitude? Just basically committing suicide...
Have a feeling they were way over gross. Only has about 800 useful ...they were probaby pushn that limit with 25 gallons..they sounded very healthy..haha..holds 48
Isn't the issue the plane was flying near it's max ceiling and didn't have the power to really be much effect at that altitude. I think this is what happened to Steve Fossett as well he got caught in the mountains canyons and as his AGL came up he had no where to turn. In this video it looks like if he had turned left it would have worked out as it seemed to be lower. I bet they just don't realize it until they see the tops of the trees are close. Without supercharging even the 200hp isn't enoug
Man, that's chilling to watch. If he'd have been more observant or at least reacted a little sooner, he could have easily prevented that or at least taken it down in that huge clearing they flew over immediately before they stalled out trying to turn back.
Pilot must have been distracted for some reason and realized this too late. It is hard to see what was to his left, but it looks like more room than he had on the right. Certainly the right turn was way too steep. I wish I knew what was left. In any case he was already too low for comfort. No room to recover from that loss of airspeed by pushing forward. I say he was distracted, became aware of the terrain too late and tried to adjust. Such a damn loss that most likely could have been avoided.
Tricky situation. Should never entered that valley, the original cause of the accident, and he should've turned left (more room to turn) he tried that steep turn probably when he felt the plane was loosing altitude, probably in face of a descending air draft (through the valley), when the stall warn sounded the first time he should've tried to level the wings and push forward on the stick, and then resume a 15º max bank turn, maybe that would do the trick. He should've never enter that valley
Understanding how to keep the wing away from the critical AOA is not the hardest thing to understand. But thats just me, my love for aerodynamics allows me to learn past the point of a pilots required knowledge. I for some reason am able to picture the things going on in my head rather than just being told to lower the nose and increase power. If you really want to be a safe pilot I recommend learning more than is required by your instructor.
To those who are discussing bank angle/stall speed/gross weight, etc: You're off base. If you have studied mountain flying, you'll know that air currents will hit a mountain, rise on the windward side, and then produce a (sometimes severe) downdraft on the leeward side. Depending on windspeed, it can potentailly become impossible to outclimb these downdrafts. It is taught that one should never fly directly towards rising terrain in the mountains; rather you should approach at a 45 degree angle.
CONTINUED: This guy, in an L-19 (probably with a 100 hp O-200 in it, and someone please correct me if I'm wrong here), and with two people in it, was probably close to gross weight. Combine this with a downdraft (he was clearly flying into the wind), the rising terrain ahead, and his approach angle, he didn't have much choice. If I were him, I would probably have done the same thing: slow the damn airplane down as much as possible, and stall it into the trees. Unfortunately they still died.
@luvnpudls I personally would head toward the rising terrain at a 45 degree and once I got close enough for comfort I would make a left hand turn. Or just stay away from the downwind side period. People do not fully understand what is going on in this situation and if they are pilots I recommend them to start studying than to lose your life this way. I'm with you.
I wouldn't call the pilot a moron, if anything I think he became a little too complacent and was distracted a little by the beautiful scenery, im sure he would like those last 10 seconds over again..RIP
Пересмотрел еще раз... В описании пишут, что идет на полных оборотах. Но Сessna не сваливается на таком крене при полной тяге будучи в добром здравии. Перед правым виражом пилот даже как будто думал сначала влево поворачивать, потом заколебался и вправо пошел. Ошибка конечно фатальная - лететь в склон... Жаль приборы не видны. Пишут, что пилот и пассажир погибли. Земля пухом ребятам...
IF this was mountain flying then im guessing he was flying in high elevation areas with thinner air. WHat actually happened and caused this. I dont like making entertainment out of peoples misfortunes but its interesting to find out what happened in pilto error cases
@Voronin385 Никакого отказа. Ошибка пилота - он сделал сильный крен вправо, потеряв много подъемной силы и допустил сваливание самолета. Сигнал в конце пищал именно об этом.
Я думаю, поверни он налево, можно было бы выйти из сваливания, уменьшив угол атаки под склон, а он направил самолет прямо на склон, заставив тем самым себя сделать этот фатально резкий крен вправо.
that's the thing man...when zero hour hits, some guys make it and some don't...this guy just happened to be at an impossible alt agl in a remote area...mountain flying in a single is a totally different ball game...if you're gonna be out there, you have to know that if the shit hits the fan, you aren't exactly flying over rural arkansas
it seems like these guys last minutes were good though...pretty lake, flying in a gorgeous area...if you remove the la
Cessna L-19 is a STOL (short take-off and landing) aircraft. Man you have to work hard to do what this pilot managed to do. Making this aircraft stall/spin requires aggressive control input. This pilot obviously did not understand the L-19 or what makes airplanes fly in general. He not only killed himself he took a passenger with him. This really is inexcusable. Lessons learned: be very very careful who you fly with. Possessing a pilots license says nothing about skill and judgement.
Another factor undoubtedly related that the horizon consisted of the mountain and ridges (he didn't have a good reference horizon); this makes bank angle or pitch much less certain or wrong despite the pilot trying to do everything right. I have seen this myself while turning before climbing terrain. There are certainly techniques or "rules" to employ to help avoid putting yourself in htis situation. Very sad but a good teaching reminder for those who want to learn.
Moron. High altitude, katabatic winds, flies towards a mountain and then turns into a hillside. The result is unsurprising. How do these people get PPLs? You cover these basics in ground school...
@dagored99 I've barely even started ground school and already found the mistake he made. You NEVER fly straight into a steep mountain face. He waited way to long to begin his turn and when he stalled, he pulled up. Your supposed to release the controls and add power.
Two obvious things, he's too close to the side of the hill before deciding he had better turn & he turned the wrong way, the ground looks to fall away to the left but rise to the right. Then he did everything wrong once the stall warning sounded, but the uploader has already pointed that out.
As my instructor use to say to me, you only ever want to hear the stall warning buzzer when you are a few thousand feet above the ground or a couple of feet above the runway :-)
@69aussieguy You can see the plane bobbling in places, showing the plane was struggling somewhat. The pilot continued in spite of it. When it was clear he couldn't trade airspeed for altitude any further, he banked. He may have been confused by the ridge slope when using a visual horizon reference. A 60-degree bank requires speed and altitude to complete, neither of which he had, but the spongy air caused by density altitude capped the disaster. Plus, he was in a box canyon scenario.
@SenorSpode You mention the 60-degree bank, as the uploader did, I don't see it...but it's very hard to tell against slopping terrain, I'm looking at the trees and guessing a maximum angle of about 45 degrees. Even so, you are right about high altitude being a problem for such a steep turn, he needed a lot more speed to do it and maintain altitude. Which gets right back to my first point, he was way too close to the ground before deciding to get out of there and turned toward the higher terrain.
@69aussieguy The steep bank angle lost him altitude at low speed and he sank hard before exiting the turn. The plane kept sinking, the wings couldn't get a good bite due to density altitude and spongy air. He regained forward speed, but getting lift back in time wasn't possible. The NTSB guessed a bank of approx. 55-60 degrees, they could be in error.
Wow, wish I could've been their.. I feel bad, that had to be lack of training.. simply level add power and don't fly so low. I agree, let this be a lesson guys in stalling... Another no no was as he was stalling, he turned right also which put even more drag, less power. Less power, less lift. I think that as soon as he stalled, it was easy, it seemed he panicked. I feel bad and at the same time renew my faith in training for this stuff... its so important especially when taking others.
He would have been better off turning left in the first place. But in this case, he might have still been able to avoid by dipping a little and straighten the wings. That turn created the stall.
You know i always see you people saying this is what he should have done.you dont know what you would have done in his situation. And you dont know what else could have been going on with the aircraft.
I'm clueless. What the hell was the PIC doing? Altitude, attitude and power would have been the order of the day. Where were the distractions? I'm miffed.
Very sad. If you watch the whole video, it seemed as if he had plenty of room to maneuver if he'd have just banked left instead of right. Mountains make it very difficult to judge distances. Of course, it's simple to point out other people's mistakes. Very sad.
@decunha73 I studied the crash area on Google Earth and was able to pinpoint the accident area. Turning left would've made matters equally bad as the terrain was rising sharper on the left; either way, density altitude ruled the scenario. General crash area is N40* 02' 13.78" by W105* 43' 31.44", pilot flew NE over Lake Granby, flanked the east side of a mountain, continued SSE over and just past Meadow Creek Reservoir.
@decunha73 I found the departure airport, studied the direct-line flightpath from KGNB (Granby) to KBJC (Jeffco Airport, NW Denver), compared it to Google Earth, used details from the video (lakes, etc.), matched 'em up to the sat-view & plotted the course. GE also allows you to see terrain altitudes where your cursor is. It took 20 minutes, but it matched up. I flew the route in an FS2004 Bird Dog. Even with good conditions, still VERY tricky. With density altitude, these guys were doomed.
@DinosaursOnceRuled - He ran out of options when he started getting low. He was pulling up the nose (which requires additional power) that he didn't have. Just like an underpowered car trying to climb a steep hill the plane got slower and slower until there wasn't sufficient airspeed to keep the wing flying. He tried to turn "downhill", but just nearly enough.
I'd like to say I wouldn't get myself in that predicament, but I'm sure this poor gentlemen said that to himself before.
@DinosaursOnceRuled: Pilot attempted to make a short-radius turn without sufficient airspeed or flap configuration. He stalled (the intermittent horn that you hear is the audible stall warning). His bank angle was 45+ degrees & the wings couldn't provide adequate lift with the airspeed he was attempting to make the turn with. Given the surroundings, he was likely at a high density altitude, which further degrades performance.
@DinosaursOnceRuled Density altitude was a major contributing factor. Hot days decrease service ceilings for small aircraft, this one was only going 46 miles across the Rockies, Granby to Broomfield. Apparently it got to a point where the wing wasn't able to do its job because of the hot, spongy air and the plane was already slow. The pilot discovered this; a steep turn backcomplicated matters further, there wasn't enough altitude to gain speed and regain lift, hence the crash into trees.
I got into a similar situation immediately after takeoff from a small airport in mountainous terrain. It was a hot day and I had three 200lb+ adults (including me). It was the scariest thing I've ever done in an airplane. My buddy in the backseat kept telling me to turn because we were heading into a canyon and didn't know if we were going to be boxed in. I knew we would fall out of the sky if I tried to turn, so I flew into the canyon. Fortunately, it was open on the other end.
I agree that this pilot should not have been flying where he was, simple fact of the matter is that he ended up in an accelerated stall close to the ground, which for any pilot is difficult to recover from, all of you can judge this pilot by watching this video if you want to, but this was a simple mistake that took all but 3 seconds to perform, and there was no way to recover, accidents happen and over half of you commenting couldn't recover from this if you tried
I completely agree with you on the stick forward to increase speed - however this pilot is plainly a moron and basically flew straight into the mountain.
You should always be thinking of where to land the aircraft in case of engine failure and this pilot plainly demonstrated that should not have been allowed to fly!
he shouldn't have banked the wings too much right on the last turn.. that put him into a stall I suppose. cuz it was full throttle probably.. and also of course too high and too close to the mountain.. so sad..
@TheCottonTop And why is buying a personal aircraft stupid if I may ask? An aircraft is nothing more than a means of transportation. It's a vehicle, just like your car, and so is a motorcycle. So therefore, you're saying anyone who buys a vehicle is stupid and should be forced to forfeit all of their earnings to charity. Without personal aircraft, airlines would not exist because the pilots would have no way of training. Think before you post buddy.
@TheCottonTop Anyone stupid enough to buy a Motorcycle of Personal Aircraft should have to give all the rest of their money to charity. Yes, Part 91 (non airline USA aircraft) has worst safety record than Motorcycles but most Motorcycle accidents are not their Drivers error. In contrast, most non Airline aircraft accidents in USA are Pilot Errors. Cyclist are better drivers than USA Part 91 Pilots. Videos like this shows all. Don't put down Motorcycles Drivers.
Think about what you say the next time you are yapping on the phone or texting while driving down the road. It's hypocritical people like that that make moronic statements like yours. It's those that should be banned to walking for transportation. I challange that there are far more in 4 wheel vehicles that shouldn't be there than motorcycles or airplanes. I own a motorcycle, fly small aircraft and of course have a car or two. I will continue with all my money,Thank you very much
Quit trollin @eason3 no one deserves to die for making a SIMPLE mistake.. everyone makes mistakes.. and plus im pretty sure you have had some few problems yourself driving a car. Tard.
That was scary to watch. I could just sense the feeling the pilot had trying to get it to come around while it was stalling. And then knowing it was going in and clipping the wings and it flipped. I could almost feel the pain of the impact.
it seems to me that he was pushing the plane's envelope by flying high above the mountains, the air was too thin for that little recyprocating engine and as a result the stall speed was elevated to a point that the pilot had to watch it carefully. He got distracted looking at the surroundings and forgot about that detail. when he realized the problem it was too late for his AGL was insufficient to recover from the stall... May they rest in peace...
Its painful to see the pilot lured by the sight of that mountain , flying towards it and his nose attitude effectively getting higher and higher . His turn away from the mountain with insufficient airspeed for the angle of bank and stall results . Rolling off some bank quickly and aiming the nose down would have saved him though the aircraft may have recovered at only tree height.
damn shame about that aircraft being lost. The rednecks, well, to hell with them. The reckage of that plane deserves better than their blood splattered all over it.
Love how the uploader describes in vast detail how he should have flow when in reality all you need to do is not turn into the face of a steep mountain.
what the heck? no engine failure or anything? just a plain old crash? i don't know anything about flying, but that seems like it should have been preventable.
I'm not a pilot. I'm a deep sea diver, but even I can say all I'm hearing here is "safe" armchair piloting with 20/20 hindsight. Never judge a man...or pilot...till you have walked a mile in his shoes...or zipped to the ground in his plummeting aricraft.
Wow, this really makes me sad when I watch it. If you look over to his left, he had all kinds of clear and open space to make a safer landing. When you're flying in the mountain's or just flying period, one should always be looking for a ditch spot in case of an in flight emergency. I just looked this crash up on planecrashmap, not much on it. Once again very sad ending.
It says in description they died
PRSwannaB 18 hours ago
I dont understand what he did. He was turning and then all of a sudden just ate shit.
Sophiatimezone 1 day ago
FUCK! D:
rtanyer226 4 days ago
Rip
PRSwannaB 5 days ago
@PRSwannaB i wouldn't guess that they died, because the airplane wasn't above the clouds, and it wasn't going fast, so a few minor injuries, but maybe they were found by a resque helicopter.
bremolincolin 1 day ago
Wow...that sucks... :(
thisis26 1 week ago
Poor guy, I just keep coming back to this trying to learn from it. I am a student pilot with a Cessna 172 Skyhawk. Each time I watch this I yell No, turn left!
gary5209 1 week ago
Makes you want to join in and tell the pilot to turn before it is too late. At 3:20 around they seem to be already too close to terrain. One can only wonder why the pilot still ramained en route with the mountain right there in front. This is a dramatic footage - makes you shiver.
rollandmcroll 1 week ago
I'm just a private pilot. I'm no bush or mountain pilot, but if I thought I was some how about to be boxed in somewhere, especially at high altitude, I would try to get the aircraft close to the side of the valley so that I could make a shallow and safe turn out. In this case, noticing that I was about to be boxed in, I would have flown close to the right side of the valley and turned out of it to the left. He was in the center, but might have made it if he chose to turn out to the left.
417flyboy 1 week ago
@TheUoru. The aircraft was not recoverable at this altitude.The plane entered whats known as an ''Accelerated stall in a turn''.It then gained speed in the dive and attempts to recover from the stall all by itself. This gives the plane a roller coaster type effect and looks as if the pilot is pulling back on the stick, but he is not.The pilot must first level his wings, but he is unable, because the ground is coming up faster than the plane can react.
thebullmck 1 week ago
RIP brave pilots. I could never fly. Someone who has access to a state of the art flight sim should test this and see if it was recoverable.
TheUoru 1 week ago
thebullmck is right on. I think he had three options and failed all three. Spiral climb up over the lake, make a 180 and go back at that same location or last choice turn left slowly, but fast enough to to keep clear of the trees. NEVER let yourself get into a no way out stituation. I couldn't belive he just kept flying towards the mountain. I bet his vertical climb was less than 300fpm
222triple 1 week ago
@222triple Right at the end im thinking well he needs to turn left as hes got a hill on his right. Next he turns RIGHT... oh dear... climbing hard turn - he had no chance. If only he had gone left. Especially at higher altitude where prop power is less. Other factors could have been ridge sink which as wel are taught is lethal and unless you know which way the wind is playing never to fly near the lea of hills. What did he shout at the end? My condolences.
truthseekers666 1 week ago
Poor guys.
3593893 1 week ago
Man, i paused the video at 5:59 and thought, shit they only had 1 more minute of their lives left.
MultiShevchenko 2 weeks ago
In a situation like this, would it be beneficial to follow closer to one ridge vs flying down the center of 2 ridges in the event you have to turn around? That way your exit plan is to fly away from the ridge your following, cutting across the valley and coming up against the adjacent ridge all in the shallowest bank you can acheive?
absolutsoju 2 weeks ago
There's one thing I haven't noticed in the comments, is orographic illusion, which is another common killer when flying around mountains. Particularly being so close to a gently sloping mountain.
whosaidyoucandance 2 weeks ago
Density Altitude is a silent killer, and an unknown to many pilots. This video is shocking, and very very sad at the same time. A few years ago, a fellow pilot, and all 5 his passengers died, when their Cessna 210 stalled, crashed into a house, and caught fire a few seconds after take-off. Conditions were similar to this, high density altitude, insufficient take-off speed, rising terrain, and added windshear, and sadly, excessive weight, and aft C.G. Very sad indeed. Rest in peace my friend.
namibgtv6 2 weeks ago
@davidcm80. This is a little more than a basic mistake. The pilot should of been thinking of where his aircraft was going to be in five minutes time, he did not do that. He was heading for trouble once he past the lake, but it took him a further two minutes to realize it. It was all over for them once he turned right, when the plane stalled he was too low to recover no matter what he did. He failed to consider what the consequences of turning right would be.
thebullmck 2 weeks ago
well that got my heart pumping.
BananaKiller135 2 weeks ago
@BananaKiller135 Mine too, unreal. It's like I was in the plane.
OhJaniceWhyOhWhy 1 week ago
did they have an ELT? cause they found their bodies years after the damn accident...I think they could have found them withing hours or days after the crash
wilfredotour3 2 weeks ago
@wilfredotour3 really? They were out there for years? America really is a big place - that could never happen in the UK - were just too cramped.
truthseekers666 1 week ago
@truthseekers666 I don't think the reason they weren't found was the vast area where they crashed, there are other factors.
wilfredotour3 1 week ago
@wilfredotour3 Are there any roads even close to where they crashed? Looks like miles of dense forest.
OhJaniceWhyOhWhy 6 days ago
@OhJaniceWhyOhWhy I don't know. It looks very far from any town or city. They must have been far as hell. I think the reason why they weren't found may have something to do with their ELT (Emergency Locator Transmitter). This device gets activated on impacts that cause quick dis-acceleration like the one on this video. It transmits a signal usually for 48 hours that can be picked by ATC , rescuers, and sattellites. I'm speculating here, i don't know much about this accident.
wilfredotour3 6 days ago
if the pilot turn right at first nothing of that had to happen just a basic mistake that went to wrong
davidcm80 2 weeks ago
I don't know why some pilots only don't remember how to recover from a power on stall what is a such basic manuever. his first mistake was turn right (closer to terrain) the second maybe was an improper fuel mixture setting (judging from the lack of power) if he was at 10,000msl the service ceiling of a L-19 is about 15,000msl and you said the density altitude was about 13,000msl that's suposed to let him climb 2000 feet more high but with less performance.
davidcm80 2 weeks ago
How did u upload this?
radanju3 3 weeks ago
at least the lake was shore purddy before he ate a shit sandwich
swankydog 3 weeks ago
Pilot error
BMXBOBO 3 weeks ago
Fuck im so scared of heights
internetvidyagaems 3 weeks ago
Damn shame.
quehaana48 3 weeks ago
The wreckage of this crashed airplane was not discovered until 3 years after the accident. Apparently the video tape was hanging from tree branches but somehow survived 3 years of exposure to the elements.
DidHeDied 1 month ago
are they dead ?
superman6327 1 month ago
@superman6327
No. I guess you missed the news, but they survived and have just recently returned into public life after being missing for nearly 30 years after the crash. They've since become international celebrities having survived the ordeal, and are now scheduled to be contestants on the next Dancing With The Stars... coming this fall on ABC.
AllPro777 1 month ago
@AllPro777 hahaha xDD!!!
superman6327 1 month ago
@superman6327 Do you not understand what the word fatal means?
xbox360dude0 3 weeks ago
@superman6327 Not the survivors.
OhJaniceWhyOhWhy 1 week ago
@OhJaniceWhyOhWhy nooo :/
superman6327 1 week ago
Did this guy think he was just going to keep climbing up the face of that giant mountain in the distance?
glassdogangle 1 month ago
R.I.P.
modwebby 1 month ago
Subsequent analysis of the footage revealed that the pilot had not taken into account the density altitude conditions that existed on the day of the flight. The aircraft was unable to climb away from steadily rising terrain due to the fact that it was essentially at or above its service ceiling, and in an attempt to remedy the situation, the pilot stalled the airplane three times during a steep bank to the right. The pilot could be heard yelling, "Damn, hang on Ronnie!" before it crashed. -Wiki
chicago6584 1 month ago
@chicago6584 Sounded like "Damn hang a right!'
Tressiensia 1 month ago
Takes a very "special" pilot to stall and crash a bird dog.
squizzoo 1 month ago
hey pilots can someone explain in lamens terms what happened? It sounded like the engine was still running etc ?
spencey820 1 month ago
@spencey820 The air thins as you gain altitude, which means both reduced lift and reduced thrust (power). In a turn, you also have to give up lift. The pilot was in high altitude and didnt give himself enough space to turn without losing lift altogether. If he had more room between his plane and the ground, he can put his nose down so the plane will gain more speed, and lift, but he didnt. Pilot error through and through.
Tressiensia 1 month ago
A chilling video of what compounding errors can mean when you're in an airplane. That being said given your take on the situation av8rdav, If you are an instructor I hope you've kept learning. The aircraft was near a stall 3 times, but back pressure was relieved. Also lift was not a factor in the end because he entered an incipient spin. So saying that he needed to produce more lift is redundant.
cgzoomer 1 month ago
you can definitely hear the engine start to splutter before the trouble starts. Loss of engine power does not mean the engine stops running. It can be so hard to detect
210482fmj 1 month ago
@210482fmj I thought the video sounded like the engine was sputtering too but the fact that the pilot didn't comment on it leads me to believe it was just an effect of the recording.
-Robert, CFII
RobertGary1 1 month ago
@RobertGary1 perhaps he didn't notice it. HIs engine may of perhaps lost 20hp. One thing some people forget is that engines don't just fail but also lose certain amount of power output.
210482fmj 1 month ago
@RobertGary1 Noticed that too.
iflyem3535 3 weeks ago
@RobertGary1 The video equipment was badly damaged when the plane went down. The camcorder and videotape case also melted in the post-crash fire so the spool itself was exposed to the elements until the crash site was found three years later. The erase head probably got smashed into the spool and partially melted it during the fire because the pattern in the visual static mostly matches the pattern in the seemingly sputtering sound of the engine.
icemachine79 3 weeks ago
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Ebannmobile 1 month ago
Wtf is he thinking turning directly into that ridge at a plane that isn't exactly at max performance at this density altitude? Just basically committing suicide...
pikapoketpu 1 month ago
Have a feeling they were way over gross. Only has about 800 useful ...they were probaby pushn that limit with 25 gallons..they sounded very healthy..haha..holds 48
frentrup 1 month ago
WTH was his sea level altitude? That things got about 220 hp. It's a 470 I think
frentrup 1 month ago 2
@frentrup Yes, it's an O-470 230 HP. Density altitude for this flight was about 13000 ft.
av8rdav 1 month ago
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johnwfaunce 1 month ago
The height of stupidity. Even old Ronny could probably see where this was going.
AreaQNH870 1 month ago
Isn't the issue the plane was flying near it's max ceiling and didn't have the power to really be much effect at that altitude. I think this is what happened to Steve Fossett as well he got caught in the mountains canyons and as his AGL came up he had no where to turn. In this video it looks like if he had turned left it would have worked out as it seemed to be lower. I bet they just don't realize it until they see the tops of the trees are close. Without supercharging even the 200hp isn't enoug
kell490 1 month ago
stupid man
SeanAlanErrockUK91 1 month ago
Man, that's chilling to watch. If he'd have been more observant or at least reacted a little sooner, he could have easily prevented that or at least taken it down in that huge clearing they flew over immediately before they stalled out trying to turn back.
ChappyDee 2 months ago
Pilot must have been distracted for some reason and realized this too late. It is hard to see what was to his left, but it looks like more room than he had on the right. Certainly the right turn was way too steep. I wish I knew what was left. In any case he was already too low for comfort. No room to recover from that loss of airspeed by pushing forward. I say he was distracted, became aware of the terrain too late and tried to adjust. Such a damn loss that most likely could have been avoided.
Aquar1uZ 2 months ago
Slow, low, extreme bank angle, secondary stalls = Death.
This is why we train. RIP
WhiteSmurfff 2 months ago
Tricky situation. Should never entered that valley, the original cause of the accident, and he should've turned left (more room to turn) he tried that steep turn probably when he felt the plane was loosing altitude, probably in face of a descending air draft (through the valley), when the stall warn sounded the first time he should've tried to level the wings and push forward on the stick, and then resume a 15º max bank turn, maybe that would do the trick. He should've never enter that valley
rivendell9999 2 months ago
6:21 is when we REALLY notice =/
Eyeglompyou 2 months ago
Understanding how to keep the wing away from the critical AOA is not the hardest thing to understand. But thats just me, my love for aerodynamics allows me to learn past the point of a pilots required knowledge. I for some reason am able to picture the things going on in my head rather than just being told to lower the nose and increase power. If you really want to be a safe pilot I recommend learning more than is required by your instructor.
Helicopterpilot16 2 months ago
I wish i never watched this... Thats Extremely Disturbing
AlphaAndOmega109 2 months ago
Thanks for sharing. Disturbing - I appreciate the info/video description too.
sitaindiechick 2 months ago
To those who are discussing bank angle/stall speed/gross weight, etc: You're off base. If you have studied mountain flying, you'll know that air currents will hit a mountain, rise on the windward side, and then produce a (sometimes severe) downdraft on the leeward side. Depending on windspeed, it can potentailly become impossible to outclimb these downdrafts. It is taught that one should never fly directly towards rising terrain in the mountains; rather you should approach at a 45 degree angle.
luvnpudls 2 months ago
CONTINUED: This guy, in an L-19 (probably with a 100 hp O-200 in it, and someone please correct me if I'm wrong here), and with two people in it, was probably close to gross weight. Combine this with a downdraft (he was clearly flying into the wind), the rising terrain ahead, and his approach angle, he didn't have much choice. If I were him, I would probably have done the same thing: slow the damn airplane down as much as possible, and stall it into the trees. Unfortunately they still died.
luvnpudls 2 months ago
@luvnpudls I personally would head toward the rising terrain at a 45 degree and once I got close enough for comfort I would make a left hand turn. Or just stay away from the downwind side period. People do not fully understand what is going on in this situation and if they are pilots I recommend them to start studying than to lose your life this way. I'm with you.
Helicopterpilot16 2 months ago
I wouldn't call the pilot a moron, if anything I think he became a little too complacent and was distracted a little by the beautiful scenery, im sure he would like those last 10 seconds over again..RIP
FIREMANGLEE 2 months ago
In this scenario, 60 degrees of bank would produce 2 G's not a 45 degree bank.
med3484 2 months ago
YOU can defintely note a change in the engine sound and it sounds like spluttering just before the stall horn
210482fmj 2 months ago
its actually quite disturbing to watch this
210482fmj 2 months ago
Пересмотрел еще раз... В описании пишут, что идет на полных оборотах. Но Сessna не сваливается на таком крене при полной тяге будучи в добром здравии. Перед правым виражом пилот даже как будто думал сначала влево поворачивать, потом заколебался и вправо пошел. Ошибка конечно фатальная - лететь в склон... Жаль приборы не видны. Пишут, что пилот и пассажир погибли. Земля пухом ребятам...
Voronin385 2 months ago
IF this was mountain flying then im guessing he was flying in high elevation areas with thinner air. WHat actually happened and caused this. I dont like making entertainment out of peoples misfortunes but its interesting to find out what happened in pilto error cases
210482fmj 2 months ago
Какой-то звук слышен при работе двигателя... Отказ техники?
Voronin385 2 months ago
@Voronin385 Никакого отказа. Ошибка пилота - он сделал сильный крен вправо, потеряв много подъемной силы и допустил сваливание самолета. Сигнал в конце пищал именно об этом.
Я думаю, поверни он налево, можно было бы выйти из сваливания, уменьшив угол атаки под склон, а он направил самолет прямо на склон, заставив тем самым себя сделать этот фатально резкий крен вправо.
82quatro 2 months ago
what did the last yelling said?
Austyg 2 months ago
@Austyg Ohhh, hang on Ryan!
stikmunkey 2 months ago
@stikmunkey It's actually "Damn, hang on Ronnie!"
82quatro 2 months ago
this was my cousins friends brother so sad :(
LaxBuda 2 months ago
I like the video, but not the dying.
Djgarner5005 2 months ago
did he dieded or did hurrr walk awai from dis bump ?
kyro02 2 months ago
@kyro02
Read the description...
pattmelodyz 2 months ago
Tree Top Flyer
primoknoxville 2 months ago
@shabaan agreed...this is very very sad
that's the thing man...when zero hour hits, some guys make it and some don't...this guy just happened to be at an impossible alt agl in a remote area...mountain flying in a single is a totally different ball game...if you're gonna be out there, you have to know that if the shit hits the fan, you aren't exactly flying over rural arkansas
it seems like these guys last minutes were good though...pretty lake, flying in a gorgeous area...if you remove the la
manifestgtr 2 months ago
as we see anyone can lost life in sec. .......may Allah rest his soul
shabaanmansour 2 months ago
There are a few places not to take an L19....thats one of 'em.
CaptainFantastic777 2 months ago
Is it just me or did the pitch of the engine sound like it was struggling towards the end?
sennetor 3 months ago
Cessna L-19 is a STOL (short take-off and landing) aircraft. Man you have to work hard to do what this pilot managed to do. Making this aircraft stall/spin requires aggressive control input. This pilot obviously did not understand the L-19 or what makes airplanes fly in general. He not only killed himself he took a passenger with him. This really is inexcusable. Lessons learned: be very very careful who you fly with. Possessing a pilots license says nothing about skill and judgement.
yesterway 3 months ago 14
@yesterway At that altitude I would never fly at that AGL. Period. No room to work with. You couldnt pay me enough
Tressiensia 1 month ago
Another factor undoubtedly related that the horizon consisted of the mountain and ridges (he didn't have a good reference horizon); this makes bank angle or pitch much less certain or wrong despite the pilot trying to do everything right. I have seen this myself while turning before climbing terrain. There are certainly techniques or "rules" to employ to help avoid putting yourself in htis situation. Very sad but a good teaching reminder for those who want to learn.
supercubp 3 months ago
Moron. High altitude, katabatic winds, flies towards a mountain and then turns into a hillside. The result is unsurprising. How do these people get PPLs? You cover these basics in ground school...
dagored99 3 months ago
@dagored99 I've barely even started ground school and already found the mistake he made. You NEVER fly straight into a steep mountain face. He waited way to long to begin his turn and when he stalled, he pulled up. Your supposed to release the controls and add power.
thefinalfrontier1701 3 months ago
@dagored99 Well in hindsight im sure its easy to pick out peoples mistakes, the guy and his mate died at least have some respect.
mctaggart99 3 months ago
damn ground really jumps out at ya those last few seconds..
LYinKansas 3 months ago
Two obvious things, he's too close to the side of the hill before deciding he had better turn & he turned the wrong way, the ground looks to fall away to the left but rise to the right. Then he did everything wrong once the stall warning sounded, but the uploader has already pointed that out.
As my instructor use to say to me, you only ever want to hear the stall warning buzzer when you are a few thousand feet above the ground or a couple of feet above the runway :-)
69aussieguy 3 months ago
@69aussieguy You can see the plane bobbling in places, showing the plane was struggling somewhat. The pilot continued in spite of it. When it was clear he couldn't trade airspeed for altitude any further, he banked. He may have been confused by the ridge slope when using a visual horizon reference. A 60-degree bank requires speed and altitude to complete, neither of which he had, but the spongy air caused by density altitude capped the disaster. Plus, he was in a box canyon scenario.
SenorSpode 3 months ago
@SenorSpode You mention the 60-degree bank, as the uploader did, I don't see it...but it's very hard to tell against slopping terrain, I'm looking at the trees and guessing a maximum angle of about 45 degrees. Even so, you are right about high altitude being a problem for such a steep turn, he needed a lot more speed to do it and maintain altitude. Which gets right back to my first point, he was way too close to the ground before deciding to get out of there and turned toward the higher terrain.
69aussieguy 3 months ago
@69aussieguy The steep bank angle lost him altitude at low speed and he sank hard before exiting the turn. The plane kept sinking, the wings couldn't get a good bite due to density altitude and spongy air. He regained forward speed, but getting lift back in time wasn't possible. The NTSB guessed a bank of approx. 55-60 degrees, they could be in error.
SenorSpode 3 months ago
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sad very sad i feel for the family
trinescape 4 months ago
its a father and his son ronnie.
credman83 4 months ago
Wow, wish I could've been their.. I feel bad, that had to be lack of training.. simply level add power and don't fly so low. I agree, let this be a lesson guys in stalling... Another no no was as he was stalling, he turned right also which put even more drag, less power. Less power, less lift. I think that as soon as he stalled, it was easy, it seemed he panicked. I feel bad and at the same time renew my faith in training for this stuff... its so important especially when taking others.
kltheman1 4 months ago
What does he shout out at the end?
94981745 4 months ago
@94981745
Damn, hang on, Harry! Something like that. That's what I think I heard.
DanieruShidebuteru 4 months ago
Just read the NTSB report on this one, the density altitude was 13,000 feet. That about says it all.
FSX404 4 months ago
@FSX404 Yep, what a moron.
mr3856a 4 months ago
@FSX404 What was the date of the crash?
rsduhamel 4 months ago
@rsduhamel
August 10, 1984
FSX404 4 months ago
What a moron.
mr3856a 4 months ago
He would have been better off turning left in the first place. But in this case, he might have still been able to avoid by dipping a little and straighten the wings. That turn created the stall.
korn4422 4 months ago
RIP
LarsGenius21 4 months ago
You know i always see you people saying this is what he should have done.you dont know what you would have done in his situation. And you dont know what else could have been going on with the aircraft.
GREATOZ28 4 months ago
Better pilots have informed me here. I have learned much from your comments.
lsharpe69 4 months ago
I'm clueless. What the hell was the PIC doing? Altitude, attitude and power would have been the order of the day. Where were the distractions? I'm miffed.
lsharpe69 4 months ago
To gain speed and retain hight above the ground it would have been better to have turned AWAY from the slope.
keegan773 4 months ago
What happened exactly?
WeConstantlyKill 4 months ago
@WeConstantlyKill
look up aircraft stall.
short answer... when the lift from the wing "stalls" the plane is no longer flying, it's falling.
at high altitude, the planes engine power is reduced due to less dense air/oxygen, and the wings have less dense air to "hold them up"
The pilot and "Ronnie" couldn't turn around in time without the aircraft losing too much altitude.
jwboll 4 months ago 2
Very sad. If you watch the whole video, it seemed as if he had plenty of room to maneuver if he'd have just banked left instead of right. Mountains make it very difficult to judge distances. Of course, it's simple to point out other people's mistakes. Very sad.
decunha73 4 months ago
@decunha73 I studied the crash area on Google Earth and was able to pinpoint the accident area. Turning left would've made matters equally bad as the terrain was rising sharper on the left; either way, density altitude ruled the scenario. General crash area is N40* 02' 13.78" by W105* 43' 31.44", pilot flew NE over Lake Granby, flanked the east side of a mountain, continued SSE over and just past Meadow Creek Reservoir.
SenorSpode 4 months ago
@SenorSpode I think he could land on that river
YagoRj357 4 months ago
@SenorSpode
Good grief, Spode! Kudos for actually FINDING the exact place! how in the hell....
decunha73 3 months ago
@decunha73 I found the departure airport, studied the direct-line flightpath from KGNB (Granby) to KBJC (Jeffco Airport, NW Denver), compared it to Google Earth, used details from the video (lakes, etc.), matched 'em up to the sat-view & plotted the course. GE also allows you to see terrain altitudes where your cursor is. It took 20 minutes, but it matched up. I flew the route in an FS2004 Bird Dog. Even with good conditions, still VERY tricky. With density altitude, these guys were doomed.
SenorSpode 3 months ago 10
R.I.P.
Can someone explain to me exactly what caused the plane to get out of control like that?
DinosaursOnceRuled 4 months ago
@DinosaursOnceRuled - He ran out of options when he started getting low. He was pulling up the nose (which requires additional power) that he didn't have. Just like an underpowered car trying to climb a steep hill the plane got slower and slower until there wasn't sufficient airspeed to keep the wing flying. He tried to turn "downhill", but just nearly enough.
I'd like to say I wouldn't get myself in that predicament, but I'm sure this poor gentlemen said that to himself before.
RIP Captain
fresnosmooth2000 4 months ago
@DinosaursOnceRuled: Pilot attempted to make a short-radius turn without sufficient airspeed or flap configuration. He stalled (the intermittent horn that you hear is the audible stall warning). His bank angle was 45+ degrees & the wings couldn't provide adequate lift with the airspeed he was attempting to make the turn with. Given the surroundings, he was likely at a high density altitude, which further degrades performance.
raynus1 4 months ago
@DinosaursOnceRuled Density altitude was a major contributing factor. Hot days decrease service ceilings for small aircraft, this one was only going 46 miles across the Rockies, Granby to Broomfield. Apparently it got to a point where the wing wasn't able to do its job because of the hot, spongy air and the plane was already slow. The pilot discovered this; a steep turn backcomplicated matters further, there wasn't enough altitude to gain speed and regain lift, hence the crash into trees.
SenorSpode 4 months ago
I got into a similar situation immediately after takeoff from a small airport in mountainous terrain. It was a hot day and I had three 200lb+ adults (including me). It was the scariest thing I've ever done in an airplane. My buddy in the backseat kept telling me to turn because we were heading into a canyon and didn't know if we were going to be boxed in. I knew we would fall out of the sky if I tried to turn, so I flew into the canyon. Fortunately, it was open on the other end.
edadan2009 4 months ago
I agree that this pilot should not have been flying where he was, simple fact of the matter is that he ended up in an accelerated stall close to the ground, which for any pilot is difficult to recover from, all of you can judge this pilot by watching this video if you want to, but this was a simple mistake that took all but 3 seconds to perform, and there was no way to recover, accidents happen and over half of you commenting couldn't recover from this if you tried
kingputt33 4 months ago
I completely agree with you on the stick forward to increase speed - however this pilot is plainly a moron and basically flew straight into the mountain.
You should always be thinking of where to land the aircraft in case of engine failure and this pilot plainly demonstrated that should not have been allowed to fly!
jagara1 5 months ago
he used to have microsoft flight simulator and thought he could do it in a real plane.
jettt111 5 months ago
he shouldn't have banked the wings too much right on the last turn.. that put him into a stall I suppose. cuz it was full throttle probably.. and also of course too high and too close to the mountain.. so sad..
warhammmer1000 5 months ago
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warhammmer1000 5 months ago
Anyone stupid enough to buy a motorcycle or personal air craft should have to give all their money left over to charity.
TheCottonTop 5 months ago
@TheCottonTop And why is buying a personal aircraft stupid if I may ask? An aircraft is nothing more than a means of transportation. It's a vehicle, just like your car, and so is a motorcycle. So therefore, you're saying anyone who buys a vehicle is stupid and should be forced to forfeit all of their earnings to charity. Without personal aircraft, airlines would not exist because the pilots would have no way of training. Think before you post buddy.
ForeverForTomorrow 4 months ago
@TheCottonTop Anyone stupid enough to buy a Motorcycle of Personal Aircraft should have to give all the rest of their money to charity. Yes, Part 91 (non airline USA aircraft) has worst safety record than Motorcycles but most Motorcycle accidents are not their Drivers error. In contrast, most non Airline aircraft accidents in USA are Pilot Errors. Cyclist are better drivers than USA Part 91 Pilots. Videos like this shows all. Don't put down Motorcycles Drivers.
CFITOMAHAWK 4 months ago
@TheCottonTop
Think about what you say the next time you are yapping on the phone or texting while driving down the road. It's hypocritical people like that that make moronic statements like yours. It's those that should be banned to walking for transportation. I challange that there are far more in 4 wheel vehicles that shouldn't be there than motorcycles or airplanes. I own a motorcycle, fly small aircraft and of course have a car or two. I will continue with all my money,Thank you very much
7490n1 4 months ago
Bad judgement.
Panic.
R.I.P
motokid032 5 months ago
@motokid032 Not enough power in that turn. Darwinism strikes again!
TheCottonTop 5 months ago
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Quit trollin @eason3 no one deserves to die for making a SIMPLE mistake.. everyone makes mistakes.. and plus im pretty sure you have had some few problems yourself driving a car. Tard.
clerkman2567 5 months ago
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clerkman2567 5 months ago
DEAD
BoomBoy13 5 months ago
obviously an idiot gets what he deserves not paying attention around him.
eason3 5 months ago
Seemed like he had more room to turn left rather than right...wonder why he did that...
iluvincitingviolence 5 months ago
Human error, big mistakes made!
1707054 5 months ago
That was scary to watch. I could just sense the feeling the pilot had trying to get it to come around while it was stalling. And then knowing it was going in and clipping the wings and it flipped. I could almost feel the pain of the impact.
Elementalism 5 months ago
it seems to me that he was pushing the plane's envelope by flying high above the mountains, the air was too thin for that little recyprocating engine and as a result the stall speed was elevated to a point that the pilot had to watch it carefully. He got distracted looking at the surroundings and forgot about that detail. when he realized the problem it was too late for his AGL was insufficient to recover from the stall... May they rest in peace...
betasso1000 5 months ago
6:22 your welcome...
gosteve1 5 months ago
The air's pretty thin at 10.000 feet, nothing for the wings to bite into in a turn.
TungstenKid 5 months ago
6:20 for those who just wanna see the accident, itself. Save you some time.
jonesy97 5 months ago 12
Its painful to see the pilot lured by the sight of that mountain , flying towards it and his nose attitude effectively getting higher and higher . His turn away from the mountain with insufficient airspeed for the angle of bank and stall results . Rolling off some bank quickly and aiming the nose down would have saved him though the aircraft may have recovered at only tree height.
Fractalite 5 months ago
@Fractalite
Right, all planes are jets.
klaptrap 5 months ago
@klaptrap Err that was responding to Puckor, not you...
klaptrap 5 months ago
He should have used his afterburners.
Puckor 5 months ago
@Puckor LOL
RoflMcCopterson 5 months ago
damn shame about that aircraft being lost. The rednecks, well, to hell with them. The reckage of that plane deserves better than their blood splattered all over it.
Polybun 5 months ago
glad he didnt fall in to the lake
soulx998 5 months ago
wow im learning to fly Cessna 172 right now and that video made my guts hurt.....R.I.P.
steelrain420 5 months ago
@steelrain420 oh fuck that. It's one less moron you have to share hanger space and altitude with.
Polybun 5 months ago
Love how the uploader describes in vast detail how he should have flow when in reality all you need to do is not turn into the face of a steep mountain.
ahampster2 5 months ago 5
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eccofonics 3 months ago
what the heck? no engine failure or anything? just a plain old crash? i don't know anything about flying, but that seems like it should have been preventable.
creamyfilling102 5 months ago
I'm not a pilot. I'm a deep sea diver, but even I can say all I'm hearing here is "safe" armchair piloting with 20/20 hindsight. Never judge a man...or pilot...till you have walked a mile in his shoes...or zipped to the ground in his plummeting aricraft.
whotmewory 5 months ago
Wow, this really makes me sad when I watch it. If you look over to his left, he had all kinds of clear and open space to make a safer landing. When you're flying in the mountain's or just flying period, one should always be looking for a ditch spot in case of an in flight emergency. I just looked this crash up on planecrashmap, not much on it. Once again very sad ending.
jobinblow 5 months ago
its Alaska, they land like this!
lukaszyaz1 5 months ago