i bet thats a sweet scope. but no offense. i know the rings you're using to mount it and those things are shit. i have invested the extra money, bought a leupold mount and it's perfect. i can reccomend it.
I wrote to Nikon about mounting one of those on my AR that had the handle. They answered me the very next day saying it could not be done, it wouldn't work, etc. I don't think the Nikon guy knew the word "Parallax" but he assured me it wouldn't work. So right here in the video of the Nikon shoot at 3:19, what do I see, a good old handle mount just like my weapon. I had the scope in my hand today at Cabela's and got the same crap from the sales boy. They need to comunicate!!!
I wrote to Nikon about mounting one of those on my MR that had the handle. They answered me the very next day saying it could not be done, it wouldn't work, etc. I don't think the Nikon guy knew the word "Parallax" but he assured me it wouldn't work. So right here in the video of the Nikon shoot at 3:19, what do I see, a good old handle mount just like my weapon. I had the scope in my hand today at Cabela's and got the same crap from the sales boy. They need to comunicate!!!
most 18"-20" barrels you would use in long range shooting use a 1/8 to a 1/9 twist mine use a 1/8" twist so i can shoot 55 up to 75 gr bullets. my 1/7" twist gun hates 55gr out past 100 yrds. i can still hit targets but the groups are bad.
@tapper45 Why would you need to re-barrel to shoot 55gr vs 62, 70, 75, 77 or even 80gr? 1:9 twist has 40-65gr covered, and 1:7 or is great if you intend to shoot up to 80gr... But 1:7 will also shoot 55 grain bullets decently.
Secondly: yeah the BDC is optimized for 55 grain bullets, but it works acceptably well for other weights, that's why they chose it. They also have a web applet which will tell you the BDC hold-over for ANY cartridge and bullet combo.
in my other posts to this video i mentioned that i meant to be bitching about the difference between 1:12 and 1:9 twists for early and later ar barrels.
however, my real problem with it is that bdc values in the scope need to take in to account barrel length, bullet weight and powder values as well.
bdc values are not universal.
there is also too much difference in point of impact between 1:7 and 1:9 twist barrels for me without a scope adj.
I was at the Nikon M-223 Challenge in this video. All of the rifles in the video are set up by Nikon with different scopes, for many people to use. It was just some fun to help test the new M223 scopes
Something you failed to mention is that the holdover points will be different for every load and bullet weight other than Nikon's specified 55 grain traveling at 3200 fps at the muzzle. Its not like the holdovers are universal
will this scope work with a 270windchester rifle?
firefox8192 1 month ago
i bet thats a sweet scope. but no offense. i know the rings you're using to mount it and those things are shit. i have invested the extra money, bought a leupold mount and it's perfect. i can reccomend it.
BuecherFuerAlle 8 months ago
does it work good with a 223 bolt action?
crazed20000 1 year ago
I wrote to Nikon about mounting one of those on my AR that had the handle. They answered me the very next day saying it could not be done, it wouldn't work, etc. I don't think the Nikon guy knew the word "Parallax" but he assured me it wouldn't work. So right here in the video of the Nikon shoot at 3:19, what do I see, a good old handle mount just like my weapon. I had the scope in my hand today at Cabela's and got the same crap from the sales boy. They need to comunicate!!!
rickd248 1 year ago
I wrote to Nikon about mounting one of those on my MR that had the handle. They answered me the very next day saying it could not be done, it wouldn't work, etc. I don't think the Nikon guy knew the word "Parallax" but he assured me it wouldn't work. So right here in the video of the Nikon shoot at 3:19, what do I see, a good old handle mount just like my weapon. I had the scope in my hand today at Cabela's and got the same crap from the sales boy. They need to comunicate!!!
rickd248 1 year ago
at :46 did you see the shadow coming towards him
Contreras03 1 year ago
@Contreras03 cloud
M107SASR 1 month ago
y are the scope rings so high
huntz2471 1 year ago
Never showed the 400 yard shot with the BDC. What's up with that? Did it fail or what? I am interested to know.
itsafrakinsamsquamch 1 year ago
@itsafrakinsamsquamch
Unfortunately, some of the tape was too sketchy to properly edit. If I recall, the 400 yard shot was achieved after 2 "practice shots" ;)
scottmokoski 1 year ago
most 18"-20" barrels you would use in long range shooting use a 1/8 to a 1/9 twist mine use a 1/8" twist so i can shoot 55 up to 75 gr bullets. my 1/7" twist gun hates 55gr out past 100 yrds. i can still hit targets but the groups are bad.
cmecha 1 year ago
the real dealbreaker is that it isn't "for your ar", it is for "your dad's ar".
the m223 scopes are all optimized for the 55gr bullet. who the hell shoots that anymore from an ar?
sure you can swap complete uppers to shoot 55 gr instead of 62 but why spend the extra money ?
most people will do that to shoot 9mm or 6.8mm.
did nikon japan dream this up?
do they know the difference between 1:7 and 1:9 twist?
wow, let's run out to the store and re-barrel to use this scope!
tapper45 1 year ago
@tapper45 Why would you need to re-barrel to shoot 55gr vs 62, 70, 75, 77 or even 80gr? 1:9 twist has 40-65gr covered, and 1:7 or is great if you intend to shoot up to 80gr... But 1:7 will also shoot 55 grain bullets decently.
Secondly: yeah the BDC is optimized for 55 grain bullets, but it works acceptably well for other weights, that's why they chose it. They also have a web applet which will tell you the BDC hold-over for ANY cartridge and bullet combo.
It's actually a pretty decent system.
nominalvelocity 1 year ago
@nominalvelocity
i agree, it's a decent system.
in my other posts to this video i mentioned that i meant to be bitching about the difference between 1:12 and 1:9 twists for early and later ar barrels.
however, my real problem with it is that bdc values in the scope need to take in to account barrel length, bullet weight and powder values as well.
bdc values are not universal.
there is also too much difference in point of impact between 1:7 and 1:9 twist barrels for me without a scope adj.
tapper45 1 year ago
Why is he using a different rifle for every set?
altops 1 year ago
@altops
I was at the Nikon M-223 Challenge in this video. All of the rifles in the video are set up by Nikon with different scopes, for many people to use. It was just some fun to help test the new M223 scopes
scottmokoski 1 year ago
Something you failed to mention is that the holdover points will be different for every load and bullet weight other than Nikon's specified 55 grain traveling at 3200 fps at the muzzle. Its not like the holdovers are universal
Dman40475 1 year ago