I could be mistaken, but i do believe that Berkeley is where BSD and GTK were born right? The GIMP was created as a proof of concept supporting GTK and User Interface Design too if I wasn't lied to. Therefore the purist would probably ascertain that GTK being the foundation of the Gnome Desktop Shell Environment would be the real BSD front end.
It becomes apparent that there's a lineage here and a timeless one that only gets stronger through the years.
Yes, and the GIMP was a study supporting GTK for GUI design back in the day. Many seem unaware that GTK and the GIMP were actually funded along time ago. This explains why they are actually comprehensive comparing them to other similar items. The GNU project are purists to the extreme and in my opinion still on track with the real message behind OSI where it is actually meant to educate and not be commercialized/stolen.
it's funny how some console freaks would like beryl... see the irony in the movie: that guy types in quite a few commands on the console, just to get the beryl working. Either you like the mouse & beryl, or you like the console. 2 different things!!!
@petegiant Linux was created as a free alternative to minix, Learn your history. Linux is just a kernel and freeBSD is a complete OS. You can however just use the BSD kernel and drop the GNU userland on top as the developers of debian have done. (GNU/KfreeBSD) I'm getting tired of people like you spreading false info.
Please explain me what the fuck is "modular Xorg" and why that guy said "freebsd hackers best friend" why linux can't be hacker best friend too wtf i dont undestrand please explian thanks
@GenoSkill also people with your intelligence shouldn't get into tech it will just confuse your simple mind. Richard Stallman and Linus Torvalds would kick your ass out of any meeting your closed mind showed up to anyway.
@SuperGangstaGeek Why do you give a fuck about the status of my mind??? Mister "Gangsta Geek" oh, it's SUPER gangsta geek. what a great and down to earth name.
(@sheepo399 )Free bsd in not linux or unix its way older. and it used to have alot of the same code as unix but they had to change it all awhile ago for legality. So learn more about computers fellas.
I really don't like people talking crap about windows when its probally what most of you are using. I use linux mint juliet dual booted w/ windows 7 the rest suck in my personal opinion. I do like Ubuntu but they have to work out there real players before I switch back. just my opinion
FreeBSD sucks, I don't get it why so many sheeple think using a text based OS is so cool....sure you can add crap to it to make it look like windows, OR just use windows instead....this thing runs like a retard in the special olympics, it doesn't recognize half the hardware out there... it's basically Dos that takes up several Gigs of space and has compatibility issues with just about everything, even itself...
@FaNoLoX The purpose of using a text-based OS isn't to be cool, it's to have the simplicity and flexibility that a text-based OS offers. I'll agree that if you want a full desktop experience, you're better off using Windows or Mac OS. Also, i run FreeBSD on an old PC and i've actually had better hardware recognition than i got on Linux (which isn't saying much). The responsiveness that i'm getting out of this machine is much better than i had when i installed windows on it, as is the uptime
@FaNoLoX - DOS was a ripoff of Unix. MS-Windows is a ripoff from Apple/Macintosh, Excel was a ripoff of Lotus 1-2-3, Word a ripoff of WordPerfect. Microsoft was never innovative, only steal from others and take credit.
@evilunixuser1 how is windows a copy of apple. learn about xerox parc project with the alto. It is one of the best Pieces of computer history ever. gates and jobs stole the whole gui from xerox they stole the network card later became internet and object orientated programming. these were all made in 1977 and later we're stolen and nvr made search it!! cheers
@mareq133 with root privileges 'cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg && make install clean' (if memory serves me correctly), add hald_enable="YES" and dbus_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf. If you want a full desktop environment, cd into /usr/ports/x11/yourdesktop environment && make install clean. If you want a window manager, cd into /usr/ports/x11-wm/yourwm && make install clean. If you choose to install gnome, create a file in /home/yourname called .xinitrc and add to it 'exec gnome-session'.
I started with rh3 and then went to fedora then when i went to freebsd i was bashing myself because in freebsd things actually make sense. It was so easy to install freebsd, even if you slice your own disk. As a matter of fact ubuntu and other distros make it hard to configure your pc because include their own configuration tools like debconft instead of for example the xorg configuration programs.
@missingxtension In this case u have to use KDE Interface. For example, openSuse, because KDE is easy to configure. That's not the problem of Ubuntu, not deb makes it hard to configure but Gnome. KDE is considered easily configurable.
well in my opinion make and the bsd packager manager are easier.
But thats what i started with, kinda like the partition tools in bsd.
It makes more sense to call partitions slices. Then the disk labeling scheme, it makes it easier to find out what is what. But like i said its what i started with.
Its nothing to brag about (specially its no big deal), but i do like to ee /etc/X11/xorg.conf
I mean no disrespect, but what you've made is a common mistake. Linux is unix, just like BSD. Mac OSX is a unix platform as well, combining aspects of the linux kernel with BSD. This is what Apple calls the "darwin" kernel. But yes, BSD has some promising aspects. However, for now, linux performs better in almost all fronts in comparison. I use ubuntu linux mainly, but i also use Open Solaris. Both are wonderful, however all operating systems using unix are suitable replacements for windows.
Hmm I think you're wrong in some parts iyanome. Linux is not UNIX; Linux is UNIX-like, meant to replace MINIX. MacOSX's XNU kernel is free and open source, but it incorporates more components from FreeBSD as opposed to Linux. FreeBSD's roots come directly from UNIX and is it's own complete OS; Linux is simply a kernel that relies to heavily off of GNU in order to make an OS. To top it off, companies like Yahoo and Sony use FreeBSD for their needs. Linux doesn't necessarily outperform BSD either.
@bogoid: you should be proud someone else uses C. What you are doing is as if I cursed at someone speaking Italian just because my greatgrandfather fought in WWI on the Italian side.
@diegoedv: BSD is a "true" descendant of Unix. And you shouldn't spit blood at someone who expresses a feeling, even if wrong.
I think GPL is fine for businesses, unless of course they want to mod the free software a bit, and then sell it to unsuspecting victims at unfair fees. And besides, I was thinking more along the lines of how freeBSD is better then Linux in terms of functionality. I can't think of any ways it is, perhaps you could enlighten me?
While I do understand your point of view, I do disagree with it. GPL doesn't taint, it just (forcefully) protects. If I was to release something open source, I wouldn't want some company using my code for their proprietary shit. If you don't mind people doing that with your stuff, go ahead use the BSD license, but don't say that GPL sucks just because it has a different purpose/philosophy.
-Btw Gnome and Beryl are GPL, why use them when you can use stuff under the superior BSD license instead?
Okay so you didn't say that GPL sucks, however it seems that you believe that the GPL licence is inferior, or perhaps it's just a misunderstanding on my part. GPL in some situations can be used for business, but I suppose that the BSD license is better in the situations where GPL isn't suited. I guess the point is that both licenses have an environment in which they are best suited. And then there's LGPL which I don't feel like getting into.
Drak, it doesn't have a "better" license. The word better (in this situation) is very subjective. It may be better in some respects, but GPL can also be considered better in other respects.... And you bring up stability? If you want to see unstable, go buy a copy of any Windows OS, I've never had a problem with stability in Linux except for when I alpha/beta test stuff.
frankly speaking, im a person who doesn't take sides with operating system. i have used windows, linux and mac os x. and i know all about these bsods but iv only ever had one once at a time when my comp was as slow as an elephant. so all these people who get bsods just need to keep their computer clean of viruses and thats that. period.
> sockman16: Name one advantage of freeBSD over linux kthxbai.
Well, how about /usr/local/etc for a safe way to override the package maintainer's version of the files in /etc ?
Or how about up to the minute userland apps but with a stable set of core OS files :) Sure some distros have backporting, but that is generally doesn't have a lot of apps. And yes yes, Gentoo + portage is similar, and that's fine.
mergemaster is nice (to they have similar in Linux yet?)
I have actually been using FreeBSD for a couple months now. It's really cool if you can get it working with the internet. If you want to install stuff, you just go to a ports folder and install. I find Unix-Like OSs are much more fun than GUI OSs. Just one opinion, though.
? sry but i couldn't see anything better than linux...
in linux ubuntu i have that but i don't need to enter a single line of code to put effects to work, im not saying that bsd is bad i'm just comenting because of your description Fancy FreeBSD desktop using Modular Xorg. This stuff isn't just for Linux kiddies! ...i didnt notice the reason why you put this...
ubuntu, in my opinion seems better. more compatibility and power because since it's more popular theres much more things to download and much more sources when downloading things.
actually, I was stunned by freebsd's excellent hardware handling, cross-platform tools (runs linux binaries and many windows drivers can be easily wrapped to run natively).
plus, the collossal ports collection which is consistent and provides packages, cvs, source,
whichever install/update method you prefer.
i needed korean stuff so i just went to /usr/ports/korean and typed
pkg_add -r *
went to make myself a sandwich. 20min later, logged into a fully korean-friendly X session.
rockwizclown - "ubuntu, in my opinion seems better"
Of course you are entitled to your opinion, I will refrain from using terms such as "fuck face" etc. But you sir, are way out of your depth making that comment.
It all depends on what you're striving for. I'd be inclined to agree with you for a desktop installation, but all my servers run BSD. 2 years without a reboot!
Been playing with FreeBSD for a few months now, I definately still prefer the linux distros I use but BSD has nontheless won itself a place in my home.
Whoa! Genius! At last all of us deluded stupid idiots who thought that Debian was based on Linux kernel with GNU kit and while BSD systems on 4.4BSD-Lite are enlightened by your eternal wisdom!
Debian is a free operating system (OS) for your computer. An operating system is the set of basic programs and utilities that make your computer run. Debian uses the Linux kernel (the core of an operating system), but most of the basic OS tools come from the GNU project; hence the name GNU/Linux.
anyone who says "OH THATS UBUNTU" are complete morons. First off thats freebsd, you can tell by the "WELCOME TO FREEBSD" or if you have ever even booted up freebsd before, you could tell. Second both Linux and Freebsd can use X11 with gnome, kde or xfce. So for your questions... Yes, its freebsd. No, it's not ubuntu. Yes, freebsd does indeed "rock." and Linux runs a lot of Different package managers where freebsd has a port system.
i guess with the open availability of ubuntu, effective WOM marketing and relative ease of use you begin to get the windows incompetents migrating to ubuntu, then claiming anything that has gnome + beryl/compiz/xgl etc is instantly ubuntu...sad that the open source community has to have imbeciles joining the ranks. soon you'll get them being unable to distinguish the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu
ljonny@youtube:~$ you can see it by different points of view. these guys, who from the beginning use Mac OS X, say FreeBSD is hard to work with(but in fact, it isn't). other guys, working since their beginning with FreeBSD, say Mac OS X is today idiot friendly, because the system does really evereything for you(i think this is not good..). it's like every OS: one time you are familiar with FreeBSD, it isn't difficult to work with.
I'm sorry but I see no purpose in using an ancient operating system that's over-complicated and even harder to use than an OS that shall not be named here. Rhymes with Frito's. Stick with your stoneage BIOS and ridiculously overused Terminal. I'll stay with Mac OS X and occasionally pop my head into Windows via Virtual Machine. It's almost scary watching you middle-aged UNIX fanboys arguing over BSD and Linux. But I wouldn't understand.
After all, I'm just some ol' whippersnapper anyhow.
Yes, I know that NeXTstep has the Mach kernel and source code from BSD UNIX but that technically does not make Mac OS X a descendant of BSD. And even if we were to say that it is, does it even matter? Mac OS X made all the GOOD things about those operating systems like the Terminal and the Dock and the Windowed environment and made it better.
1. Sending photos? Have you used a Mac for 30 days or are you just mindlessly ragging on it?
2. Chris Pirillo said himself that Mac OS X was the best user-friendly operating system to come out from any OS vendor. So I'd rather do things simpler in Mac OS X than spend all my time typing in a black window.
3. Limited software choices? You DO know that FreeBSD owns NO OS MARKET SHARE right? None. Period. Go look it up. Acting like you BSD guys have more software than OS X is just...
2.i dont know who chris prillo is, but user-friendly doesnt negate that the os is designed for simpletons
3.yes much more limited choices than an OS i use such as windows, i was merely browsing this video to see what freebsd was capably of. i dont represent them. Apple = simple computers for simple people
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this sucks, but freebsd is a nice os. too bad that is not portable to other plataforms like ((GNU/Linux))! =)
DMBoyCloud 1 month ago
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DMBoyCloud 1 month ago
@necrocoprophilia Wait, you are teaching me about hacking? LOL !
AtomMp3 4 months ago
I could be mistaken, but i do believe that Berkeley is where BSD and GTK were born right? The GIMP was created as a proof of concept supporting GTK and User Interface Design too if I wasn't lied to. Therefore the purist would probably ascertain that GTK being the foundation of the Gnome Desktop Shell Environment would be the real BSD front end.
It becomes apparent that there's a lineage here and a timeless one that only gets stronger through the years.
Houndx6 5 months ago
@Houndx6 GIMP and GTK are GNU Projects.
MagicSysRqKey 3 months ago
@MagicSysRqKey
Yes, and the GIMP was a study supporting GTK for GUI design back in the day. Many seem unaware that GTK and the GIMP were actually funded along time ago. This explains why they are actually comprehensive comparing them to other similar items. The GNU project are purists to the extreme and in my opinion still on track with the real message behind OSI where it is actually meant to educate and not be commercialized/stolen.
Houndx6 3 months ago
If you are a gamer, use Windows, if you like movie editing, use Mac, if you are a programmer, use Linux, but if you are a hacker, use FreeBSD...
AtomMp3 5 months ago 7
@AtomMp3 If you want to have continual problems regardless of your software, use a computer.
MorkaGraven 1 month ago
I've heard that Gnome is going to withdraw its support for non-Linux (BSD) Unix-like systems.
alekmosingiewicz 7 months ago
I'm a GNU/Linux user, but I have tremendous respect for FreeBSD and Unix in general and I prefer kde over gnome nowadays.
sephigi 7 months ago 3
World most powerful operating system!
hck112 11 months ago
@hck112 not really!
DMBoyCloud 1 month ago
it's funny how some console freaks would like beryl... see the irony in the movie: that guy types in quite a few commands on the console, just to get the beryl working. Either you like the mouse & beryl, or you like the console. 2 different things!!!
cornelava 1 year ago
@cornelava cuz either you see the world in black and white, or you see it in colors. 2 different things!!
macc2xx 7 months ago
Linux = Unix-like
FreeBSD = Unix
Therefore Linux wants to be like FreeBSD. That should tell you something.
petegiant 1 year ago
@petegiant Linux was created as a free alternative to minix, Learn your history. Linux is just a kernel and freeBSD is a complete OS. You can however just use the BSD kernel and drop the GNU userland on top as the developers of debian have done. (GNU/KfreeBSD) I'm getting tired of people like you spreading false info.
soulknifehunter 9 months ago
@soulknifehunter BSD fanboy?
DMBoyCloud 1 month ago
@DMBoyCloud Depends on what you mean by that. I am a fan of BSD and what it is capable of.
soulknifehunter 1 month ago
@soulknifehunter I am a GNU/Linux user and I think both are pretty good for hacking and software develop!
DMBoyCloud 1 month ago
@petegiant wrong, freebsd is unix like too. They are both great too, and I use them on a daily basis.
robvelor 8 months ago
Please explain me what the fuck is "modular Xorg" and why that guy said "freebsd hackers best friend" why linux can't be hacker best friend too wtf i dont undestrand please explian thanks
genosklill
GenoSkill 1 year ago
@GenoSkill also people with your intelligence shouldn't get into tech it will just confuse your simple mind. Richard Stallman and Linus Torvalds would kick your ass out of any meeting your closed mind showed up to anyway.
SuperGangstaGeek 1 year ago
@SuperGangstaGeek Why do you give a fuck about the status of my mind??? Mister "Gangsta Geek" oh, it's SUPER gangsta geek. what a great and down to earth name.
GenoSkill 1 year ago
@GenoSkill just go work at staples and stop trying!! lmao fuckin noob
SuperGangstaGeek 1 year ago
@GenoSkill Backtrack is a script kiddies best friend. It puts machine guns in the hands of monkeys.
MikeAK147 7 months ago
(@sheepo399 )Free bsd in not linux or unix its way older. and it used to have alot of the same code as unix but they had to change it all awhile ago for legality. So learn more about computers fellas.
I really don't like people talking crap about windows when its probally what most of you are using. I use linux mint juliet dual booted w/ windows 7 the rest suck in my personal opinion. I do like Ubuntu but they have to work out there real players before I switch back. just my opinion
SuperGangstaGeek 1 year ago
@SuperGangstaGeek Hey mister "gangsta geek" you're just a fag.
GenoSkill 1 year ago
@GenoSkill at lest im not askin stupid question noob
SuperGangstaGeek 1 year ago
FreeBSD sucks, I don't get it why so many sheeple think using a text based OS is so cool....sure you can add crap to it to make it look like windows, OR just use windows instead....this thing runs like a retard in the special olympics, it doesn't recognize half the hardware out there... it's basically Dos that takes up several Gigs of space and has compatibility issues with just about everything, even itself...
FaNoLoX 1 year ago
@FaNoLoX The purpose of using a text-based OS isn't to be cool, it's to have the simplicity and flexibility that a text-based OS offers. I'll agree that if you want a full desktop experience, you're better off using Windows or Mac OS. Also, i run FreeBSD on an old PC and i've actually had better hardware recognition than i got on Linux (which isn't saying much). The responsiveness that i'm getting out of this machine is much better than i had when i installed windows on it, as is the uptime
CabbageNappa 1 year ago
@FaNoLoX - DOS was a ripoff of Unix. MS-Windows is a ripoff from Apple/Macintosh, Excel was a ripoff of Lotus 1-2-3, Word a ripoff of WordPerfect. Microsoft was never innovative, only steal from others and take credit.
evilunixuser1 1 year ago 2
@evilunixuser1 how is windows a copy of apple. learn about xerox parc project with the alto. It is one of the best Pieces of computer history ever. gates and jobs stole the whole gui from xerox they stole the network card later became internet and object orientated programming. these were all made in 1977 and later we're stolen and nvr made search it!! cheers
SuperGangstaGeek 1 year ago
@evilunixuser1 indeed
hck112 11 months ago
what's the difference between FreeBSD and Linux?
eldaguinio 1 year ago
@eldaguinio google that question, dumb ass.
jhonnyboy2050 1 year ago
@jhonnyboy2050 ok.. dumb ass!!
eldaguinio 1 year ago
@eldaguinio there are like 2 programs for freeBSD :D
unrealjeff 1 year ago
@unrealjeff
There are like a shitty file-system and kernel for Linux. :-D
Snuskigaste 1 year ago
After installation there i have only text mode. How can I get/install windowed mode?
mareq133 1 year ago
@mareq133 the text is freebsd...
903harman 1 year ago
@mareq133 with root privileges 'cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg && make install clean' (if memory serves me correctly), add hald_enable="YES" and dbus_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf. If you want a full desktop environment, cd into /usr/ports/x11/yourdesktop environment && make install clean. If you want a window manager, cd into /usr/ports/x11-wm/yourwm && make install clean. If you choose to install gnome, create a file in /home/yourname called .xinitrc and add to it 'exec gnome-session'.
CabbageNappa 1 year ago
@Justaguy1010
I started with rh3 and then went to fedora then when i went to freebsd i was bashing myself because in freebsd things actually make sense. It was so easy to install freebsd, even if you slice your own disk. As a matter of fact ubuntu and other distros make it hard to configure your pc because include their own configuration tools like debconft instead of for example the xorg configuration programs.
missingxtension 1 year ago
@missingxtension In this case u have to use KDE Interface. For example, openSuse, because KDE is easy to configure. That's not the problem of Ubuntu, not deb makes it hard to configure but Gnome. KDE is considered easily configurable.
aliancemd 1 year ago
@aliancemd
well in my opinion make and the bsd packager manager are easier.
But thats what i started with, kinda like the partition tools in bsd.
It makes more sense to call partitions slices. Then the disk labeling scheme, it makes it easier to find out what is what. But like i said its what i started with.
Its nothing to brag about (specially its no big deal), but i do like to ee /etc/X11/xorg.conf
missingxtension 1 year ago
not boring. go back to vista.
zequelll 1 year ago
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my god so boring what a lame OS
greenhornet123 2 years ago
its true..freebsd is every hackers best friend..
313c7r0idPu153 2 years ago 20
@313c7r0idPu153 try backtrack and debian.
hck112 11 months ago
@313c7r0idPu153 why? :O :)
bashar876 6 months ago
I mean no disrespect, but what you've made is a common mistake. Linux is unix, just like BSD. Mac OSX is a unix platform as well, combining aspects of the linux kernel with BSD. This is what Apple calls the "darwin" kernel. But yes, BSD has some promising aspects. However, for now, linux performs better in almost all fronts in comparison. I use ubuntu linux mainly, but i also use Open Solaris. Both are wonderful, however all operating systems using unix are suitable replacements for windows.
iyanome 2 years ago
Hmm I think you're wrong in some parts iyanome. Linux is not UNIX; Linux is UNIX-like, meant to replace MINIX. MacOSX's XNU kernel is free and open source, but it incorporates more components from FreeBSD as opposed to Linux. FreeBSD's roots come directly from UNIX and is it's own complete OS; Linux is simply a kernel that relies to heavily off of GNU in order to make an OS. To top it off, companies like Yahoo and Sony use FreeBSD for their needs. Linux doesn't necessarily outperform BSD either.
Aloyalgamer 2 years ago
@iyanome
Aloyalgamer is right and you're wrong, Linux is a Unix-like system but it's not Unix based, it's not Unix.
ekerazha 2 years ago
wtf command do u use to install a enviroment
Benz0Rollin 2 years ago
Google is your friend.
# cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome2
# make clean; make install clean
Yerzriknot 2 years ago
ports for freebsd, apt-get for debian/ubuntu yum for fedora, rpm for redhat, zypper for opensuse/suse
WeedingWaimbow 2 years ago
@WeedingWaimbow: ports is not in the same category as the others. FreeBSD's equivalent here would be packages.
tbarker5252 1 year ago
Haha, geek flame war. So fun to watch.
Hierbat 2 years ago
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gnome is shit
VlcakStalker 2 years ago
hahaha you faggots remind me of the never ending windows vs apple argument now it is between linux vs unix fuking geeks haha
esesolox3 2 years ago
I'll be downloading FreeBSD onto Virtual Box to check it out.
DirtyMidgetStudios 2 years ago
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linux looks way better
BrandenPosts 2 years ago
not true always
161023 2 years ago
Both of you stop cursing at each other!
@bogoid: you should be proud someone else uses C. What you are doing is as if I cursed at someone speaking Italian just because my greatgrandfather fought in WWI on the Italian side.
@diegoedv: BSD is a "true" descendant of Unix. And you shouldn't spit blood at someone who expresses a feeling, even if wrong.
Seretur00 2 years ago
If I could ever figure out how to configure GRUB without shitting things up, I'd be on BSD in a heartbeat
CaptainHat12 2 years ago
google it, there's plenty of tutorials out there.
MikeyIckey 2 years ago 2
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wow you guys have no life
sheepo399 2 years ago
and you who searches youtube for videos related to people who "have no life" have an even more worthless life.
daryxvary 2 years ago 4
linux forever.
Yottabyte16 2 years ago
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freebsd looks like crap.
Yottabyte16 2 years ago
I don't get it, its using gnome, which is also on linux, so how does that define how freebsd looks
sheepo399 2 years ago 16
@sheepo399
That's because GNOME is a desktop enviroment for every unix-lile OS that uses X11.
RamiroR 1 year ago
@sheepo399 freebsd is only the kernel, gnome is desktop manager.
elchippe 1 year ago
@elchippe Then what's the userland? And Gnome is a desktop environment.
soulknifehunter 9 months ago
FreeBSD looks like whatever DE it's running.
cyborgtroy 2 years ago 4
flash player?
fairyheli2 2 years ago
Name one advantage of freeBSD over linux kthxbai.
sockman16 2 years ago
You mean besides the business-friendly licensing?
AdeLP 2 years ago
I think GPL is fine for businesses, unless of course they want to mod the free software a bit, and then sell it to unsuspecting victims at unfair fees. And besides, I was thinking more along the lines of how freeBSD is better then Linux in terms of functionality. I can't think of any ways it is, perhaps you could enlighten me?
sockman16 2 years ago
GPL, I seem to recall, taints any derived product.
Which means if I write a completely new product which just happens to use on GPL lib, all of my source is now GPL.
Its not very business friendly.
AdeLP 2 years ago
While I do understand your point of view, I do disagree with it. GPL doesn't taint, it just (forcefully) protects. If I was to release something open source, I wouldn't want some company using my code for their proprietary shit. If you don't mind people doing that with your stuff, go ahead use the BSD license, but don't say that GPL sucks just because it has a different purpose/philosophy.
-Btw Gnome and Beryl are GPL, why use them when you can use stuff under the superior BSD license instead?
sockman16 2 years ago
Sockman16, please quote me where I said "GPL sucks". I believe what I said was, "not very business friendly", and I stand by it.
I don't care WHY GPL was made as it it, I just don't think its business friendly (for the better part, of course we could both name exceptions).
AdeLP 2 years ago
Okay so you didn't say that GPL sucks, however it seems that you believe that the GPL licence is inferior, or perhaps it's just a misunderstanding on my part. GPL in some situations can be used for business, but I suppose that the BSD license is better in the situations where GPL isn't suited. I guess the point is that both licenses have an environment in which they are best suited. And then there's LGPL which I don't feel like getting into.
sockman16 2 years ago
I really dislike how BSD hypocrites like you try to make the GPL to look inferior.
If you really have so much against the GPL stop using our GCC or anything that comes from the GNU project in your BSD systems, and GTFO.
diegoedv 2 years ago
Actually I'm a Linux developer, and spend most of my time in either Fedora or Debian.
Now, do you have anything else stupid to say?
AdrianLParker 2 years ago
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debilinc 2 years ago
relax.. pcc is coming ;)
debilinc 2 years ago
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and we dislike linux users using our C language
bogoid 2 years ago
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C wasn't invented for/in BSD you fucking idiot.
diegoedv 2 years ago
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No, but for unix fucking idiot
bogoid 2 years ago
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I know that moron, but you claim that C was invented in BSD.
You are the fucking idiot here.
diegoedv 2 years ago
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nonono , YOU are the fucking idiot here
bogoid 2 years ago
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You are the fucking idiot and you will always be. The same way BSD will always be behind Linux.
diegoedv 2 years ago
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you exposed yourself like a lintard baby
bogoid 2 years ago
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yeah right
diegoedv 2 years ago
stability, and a better license kthxbai
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sockman16 2 years ago
Drak, it doesn't have a "better" license. The word better (in this situation) is very subjective. It may be better in some respects, but GPL can also be considered better in other respects.... And you bring up stability? If you want to see unstable, go buy a copy of any Windows OS, I've never had a problem with stability in Linux except for when I alpha/beta test stuff.
sockman16 2 years ago
ive never had a problem with windows. never gotten the blue screen or viruses
evilhugbear 2 years ago
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InHerBrownEye 2 years ago
Stop lying to yourself, please.
DarkCybrid 2 years ago 4
frankly speaking, im a person who doesn't take sides with operating system. i have used windows, linux and mac os x. and i know all about these bsods but iv only ever had one once at a time when my comp was as slow as an elephant. so all these people who get bsods just need to keep their computer clean of viruses and thats that. period.
mjnaik 2 years ago
I see...
DarkCybrid 2 years ago
I agree, just go to the trend micro website, then perform a full system scan in safe mode :).
Or, use a floppy-based/cd-based AVC and you are all set :).
KOFwhiz 2 years ago
im not lying, i have never gotten a virus or blue screen
evilhugbear 2 years ago
You're a LIAR! You can get viruses with knowing it and without antivirus's detecting them. So HA!
DarkCybrid 2 years ago
> sockman16: Name one advantage of freeBSD over linux kthxbai.
Well, how about /usr/local/etc for a safe way to override the package maintainer's version of the files in /etc ?
Or how about up to the minute userland apps but with a stable set of core OS files :) Sure some distros have backporting, but that is generally doesn't have a lot of apps. And yes yes, Gentoo + portage is similar, and that's fine.
mergemaster is nice (to they have similar in Linux yet?)
AdeLP 2 years ago
I'm thinking about checking out FreeBSD (Or should I start with PC-BSD?) and possibly making the switch if I like it.
I'm pretty familiar with Linux and use Slackware as my main OS.
How difficult is it to learn FreeBSD?
Steven707 3 years ago
I have actually been using FreeBSD for a couple months now. It's really cool if you can get it working with the internet. If you want to install stuff, you just go to a ports folder and install. I find Unix-Like OSs are much more fun than GUI OSs. Just one opinion, though.
umax333 3 years ago
FreeBSD is quite easy wants you get ports down and all your hardware works
Drakgamereviews 2 years ago
The truth is out there.
reYKCuf 3 years ago
linux is better my linux only takes 15 seconds to boot
fairyheli2 3 years ago
And for Others BSD loads faster, so BSD is better!
fhnyuiko 3 years ago 2
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People, people. Lets just say they are both crap.
chrisybwell 3 years ago
Are you for real?
I used NetBSD for years and my boot time was all.
I tired OpenBSD but it was slow as balls.
All the BSD are good, but they need more work.
Linux is better, for now.
anonfucker 2 years ago
what is this shit? why you open command prompt?
press win+e, is a nice tip for you guys :D try it and see.
kookoon 3 years ago
That's Linux he is opening the Gnome Terminal. I tried it on my Linux Laptop Win+E it actually does something cool. I won't tell you!
FinalMacPro 3 years ago
? sry but i couldn't see anything better than linux...
in linux ubuntu i have that but i don't need to enter a single line of code to put effects to work, im not saying that bsd is bad i'm just comenting because of your description Fancy FreeBSD desktop using Modular Xorg. This stuff isn't just for Linux kiddies! ...i didnt notice the reason why you put this...
YuhuanKnot 3 years ago
love how you misspelled every word you put on here. Priceless. OHHH!!! Were you trying to do that?
Fallingup899 3 years ago 3
Cinema display FTW
Best moniters ever
tylerblogger 3 years ago
most overpriced monitors ever
Amebixfan 3 years ago 5
HMM..
raplae 3 years ago
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freeBSD is too geek
MT12XD 3 years ago
I thought being smart was a good thing?
overide1234 3 years ago 2
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Being smart is. Being a pimply-faced loser hunched over in front of a computer screen all the time is not.
replicant10000 3 years ago
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Is that what geeks do?
overide1234 3 years ago
Yepp it's to geek for linux kids. BSD Live long!
jokeersuper 3 years ago
Is that a Cinema Display....
(Grinning at the sight of one)
AppleKatana 3 years ago
ubuntu, in my opinion seems better. more compatibility and power because since it's more popular theres much more things to download and much more sources when downloading things.
rockwizclown 3 years ago
actually, I was stunned by freebsd's excellent hardware handling, cross-platform tools (runs linux binaries and many windows drivers can be easily wrapped to run natively).
plus, the collossal ports collection which is consistent and provides packages, cvs, source,
whichever install/update method you prefer.
i needed korean stuff so i just went to /usr/ports/korean and typed
pkg_add -r *
went to make myself a sandwich. 20min later, logged into a fully korean-friendly X session.
rothkoaintdead 3 years ago 3
rockwizclown - "ubuntu, in my opinion seems better"
Of course you are entitled to your opinion, I will refrain from using terms such as "fuck face" etc. But you sir, are way out of your depth making that comment.
seagull770 3 years ago 4
why r u getting all anal about it?
rockwizclown 3 years ago
It all depends on what you're striving for. I'd be inclined to agree with you for a desktop installation, but all my servers run BSD. 2 years without a reboot!
stayhidden 3 years ago 4
Been playing with FreeBSD for a few months now, I definately still prefer the linux distros I use but BSD has nontheless won itself a place in my home.
snakenetadmin 3 years ago
I prefer console. :P
itsaboutglenn 3 years ago 3
Windows rules!!! (sarcasm)
okram1942 3 years ago 11
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Debian GNU Linux is based on BSD... Ubuntu is based on DEBIAN!
oxbadcoded 3 years ago
>Debian GNU Linux is based on BSD
Whoa! Genius! At last all of us deluded stupid idiots who thought that Debian was based on Linux kernel with GNU kit and while BSD systems on 4.4BSD-Lite are enlightened by your eternal wisdom!
baberbekule 3 years ago
He's wrong, but no need to be acthing like that.
someman7 3 years ago 8
What is Debian?
Debian is a free operating system (OS) for your computer. An operating system is the set of basic programs and utilities that make your computer run. Debian uses the Linux kernel (the core of an operating system), but most of the basic OS tools come from the GNU project; hence the name GNU/Linux.
latticelinux 3 years ago 2
HAX
wickedwizd 3 years ago
That guy's awesome ^
marioguy 3 years ago
Your wallpaper is so cool man, where can i get it?
christy2drag 3 years ago
its fuckn freeBSD omg morons xD
incubus280 3 years ago
anyone who says "OH THATS UBUNTU" are complete morons. First off thats freebsd, you can tell by the "WELCOME TO FREEBSD" or if you have ever even booted up freebsd before, you could tell. Second both Linux and Freebsd can use X11 with gnome, kde or xfce. So for your questions... Yes, its freebsd. No, it's not ubuntu. Yes, freebsd does indeed "rock." and Linux runs a lot of Different package managers where freebsd has a port system.
JayTheFishy 3 years ago 5
i guess with the open availability of ubuntu, effective WOM marketing and relative ease of use you begin to get the windows incompetents migrating to ubuntu, then claiming anything that has gnome + beryl/compiz/xgl etc is instantly ubuntu...sad that the open source community has to have imbeciles joining the ranks. soon you'll get them being unable to distinguish the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu
catchcain 3 years ago
> sad that the open source community has to
> have imbeciles joining the ranks
there were plenty of imbeciles in the linux community before. there are also a fair number of elitist assholes.
slutternaut 3 years ago
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no, that's definitely ubuntu.
numair23 3 years ago
yeah lol
linuxm4573r 3 years ago
no, your wrong beryl can run on both operating systems which makes them almost look the same:P
bathwater1994 3 years ago 5
Beryl runs on any unix based open source system
Amebixfan 3 years ago 7
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No, i'm 100% sure that's ubuntu.
numair23 3 years ago
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Fuck ubanto.
13375ub5cr1b3r 3 years ago
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it's ubuntu lulz
linuxm4573r 3 years ago
You best be trolling.
13375ub5cr1b3r 3 years ago 4
lamer
Holms 3 years ago
Bad troll,
It's BSD running Gnome, you can see the FreeBSD loadup in the beginning.
Amebixfan 3 years ago 2
Please tell me you were joking. It says FreeBSD in the video's title, and the boot screen is completely different.
A Unix-based OS isn't just automatically Ubuntu, you know.
Bendmac525 3 years ago 2
You're 100% wrong.
"lulz"....
brunofin12 3 years ago
blah blah blah...
that's FreeBSD. you won't change the fact by repeating the same bullshit even 100 times.
baberbekule 3 years ago
just as i am 100% sure that you use windows
jackmileshunt 3 years ago
hi i have been using linux and windows on dule boot but can someone plz tell me do u get the package manager that comes with linux?
rmellis 3 years ago
i meen is the package manager in bsd the same as the one in linux?
rmellis 3 years ago
Free BSD is AWSOME!!!
feesww 3 years ago
Parabéns pelo video.
nukkino 3 years ago
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it's win 95 ;)
joyx81 3 years ago
> it's win 95 ;)
you mean it's installed in your brains?
baberbekule 3 years ago
I have Windows Vista with Crysis installed in my brain. Whenever I'm bored, I just power it up and play Crysis.
*sigh* I really need a new computer.
gangstermailuser 3 years ago
jelly!!!!!!
GigabyteFreakk 4 years ago
ljonny@youtube:~$ you can see it by different points of view. these guys, who from the beginning use Mac OS X, say FreeBSD is hard to work with(but in fact, it isn't). other guys, working since their beginning with FreeBSD, say Mac OS X is today idiot friendly, because the system does really evereything for you(i think this is not good..). it's like every OS: one time you are familiar with FreeBSD, it isn't difficult to work with.
ljonny 4 years ago
I'm sorry but I see no purpose in using an ancient operating system that's over-complicated and even harder to use than an OS that shall not be named here. Rhymes with Frito's. Stick with your stoneage BIOS and ridiculously overused Terminal. I'll stay with Mac OS X and occasionally pop my head into Windows via Virtual Machine. It's almost scary watching you middle-aged UNIX fanboys arguing over BSD and Linux. But I wouldn't understand.
After all, I'm just some ol' whippersnapper anyhow.
leodime 4 years ago
lol, just so you know OSX is base of freebsd.
So that would make OSX what you call 'middle-aged UNIX'
anonfucker 4 years ago
OS X is not based off FreeBSD. It evolved from NeXTStep so STFU and learn what the fucking real deal is dumbass.
leodime 4 years ago
hate to bust your bubble leodime. Would you happen to know where NeXTStep forked its code from?
deltateam2 4 years ago
Yes, I know that NeXTstep has the Mach kernel and source code from BSD UNIX but that technically does not make Mac OS X a descendant of BSD. And even if we were to say that it is, does it even matter? Mac OS X made all the GOOD things about those operating systems like the Terminal and the Dock and the Windowed environment and made it better.
leodime 4 years ago
Mac osx is for simpletons that use there computers for sending photos to other simpletons enjoy your limited software choices
chrislawless 4 years ago
1. Sending photos? Have you used a Mac for 30 days or are you just mindlessly ragging on it?
2. Chris Pirillo said himself that Mac OS X was the best user-friendly operating system to come out from any OS vendor. So I'd rather do things simpler in Mac OS X than spend all my time typing in a black window.
3. Limited software choices? You DO know that FreeBSD owns NO OS MARKET SHARE right? None. Period. Go look it up. Acting like you BSD guys have more software than OS X is just...
leodime 4 years ago
1. well ok, you can also listen to music
2.i dont know who chris prillo is, but user-friendly doesnt negate that the os is designed for simpletons
3.yes much more limited choices than an OS i use such as windows, i was merely browsing this video to see what freebsd was capably of. i dont represent them. Apple = simple computers for simple people
chrislawless