I must be in one of the best wing chun class in the world.. unlike these guys, we don't use gloves, and when we were going to hit the face, we fake it. When we hit the body, we hit the body!! LOL, my chest is well conditioned xD
also, wing tsun is not a one punch at a time system of fighting. you NEVER throw one punch, you always move both hands forward and then punch continuously. this isn't wing tsun.
has anyone else noticed that their footwork isn't wing-tsun like at all? they "walk", they pick up one leg and put it down and then pick up the other leg to follow. maybe it's just my school (i do ebmas), but from all i've learned, you're supposed to adduct (eg pull your knees together) and "snap" with your legs to give you your mobility.
Everytime a wing chun sparring vid comes up there are people saying "Thats not wing chun!" or some such rubbish. Truth is, you can't really do wing chun when sparring because it relys on agression and taking all your opponents options away. Who would learn anything if you did that in training?
Then don't spar with intention. Don't spar at all then! Just do your forms, drills and assume you will be able to handle an attack on a street by a person who will hit you hard and fast. I.e someone who has trained in boxing/muay thai and is also a street fighter. Are you ready for that? Have you tested yourself?
I have and do test myself. As the captain of my university wing tsun club I organise sparring with the senior members of the other martial arts societies (and believe me its hard to get some of them to test themselves) for that very purpose. My point is that you can't really fight like you would on the street in training, whatever the level of training.
only some wingchun fighters, but that would only be lack of correction from their teachers or maybe the teacher doesnt know better, which would be a shame
The problem with most wing chun training is its rare to punch to the head in sparring. With out that element of danger, people get relaxed and never develop a good defence. When boxing training, more emphasis is placed on actually getting hit. You learn real quick to keep your hands up. Is it me, or has anybody else noticed that wing chun fighters often do not tuck their chin, but rather lean their heads back to make more distance?
Yes i know what you mean. I started W.C b4 boxing. ANd yes many beginner W.C students don't tuck their chins in. And they do not know how to deal with quick/fast strikes to the head/body in volume, the beginners worry about trapping TOO MUCH. Hard to trap a guy who strikes very fast and painful. Boxing helps you get over the shock of getting hit.
The only real way to perfect wing chun is to leave the school and actually fight non-wing chun fighters. The best teacher is experience. No sifu is going to make you a good fighter. No matter how many times someone tells you to tuck your chin, you won't do it till you get clocked once or twice.
True. Though at least in a boxing sparring session, you wear a mouthguard and headgear. So even if someone does rock you on the chin, you only get slightly hurt and not a broken jaw. For the most part ;) Unless you are sparring with Tyson or something.
Boxing gloves may not work, but I don't see why wing chun schools don't use UFC glooves and face masks. The kids are too worried about getting hit so they never really engage I think.
Few Few few Wing Chun schools have incorperated the MMA style gloves for grappling and trapping plus boxing hits. I don't agree totally with the face mask though. I mean whats the point if you never experience what its like to be hit in the nose/chin areas? Unless medically you are required to wear a face mask of course.
Face masks just protect from excess damage. Its still possible to feel the "shock" of a punch. Theres no other way to train with real speed, power and distance while eliminating the danger of permanent injury. Boxing gloves may allow for cushioned hits to the nose and jaw for conditioning, but are not realistic for grabbing. The point is to deal with the "shock" of getting hit. That can be trained with a helmet too. At least its a step up from just punching in the air.
True. Though getting it "raw" in the boxing gym during sparring is helping me blink less now when I actually get nailed in the nose/chin. I agree with you though, boxing gloves lack the grappling/trapping emphasis.
Dropping the hands is a problem for any fighter. IN wing chun you are not suppose to let your hands drop ever! As far as jabs are concerned, many awesome defenses against that, Bong Sao/Wu Sao, you actually catch the hand as it pulls back from the jab 'No Matter How Fast The Jab' Your two cents were worth a lot, you are correct in what you say! Thanks!
I'm not sure how long they've been practicing, but one pitfall of wing chun training is letting the hands drop too low. You have to keep them higher in front of the face, or a real boxer will pick your face apart with jabs alone. Second, commit to an attack, don't spend the whole time faking. Third, don't forget you have legs to kick. Use them as a distraction to the lower body while you attack upstairs. Thats just my two cents.
I must be in one of the best wing chun class in the world.. unlike these guys, we don't use gloves, and when we were going to hit the face, we fake it. When we hit the body, we hit the body!! LOL, my chest is well conditioned xD
VapourXY 1 year ago
more like wing chun boxing. lol. not sparring.
guitardaddy6 1 year ago
i don't comment only because i read the others and i understand this isn't real wt sparring...
mapick2tube 1 year ago
What a tards. This is Wing Tsun?!?!?!?
p1rvorodniqbrat 2 years ago 2
Not wing chun! Come on! Stop lying!
Catalyst2 2 years ago
ow and btw :
make usage of the gloves man they are here to protect dont be affraid to hit...else u will never learn it.
hit hard, learn hard, be hard, get hard ;)
Narascha 3 years ago
omg this is wing chun no way
st of all center line punches ( i dont see it in here)
2nd wing chun has chain punches and not loose punches
3rd @ wing chun you mainly learn to hit on the head ( not seeing it here at al)
4th win chun learns to counter ( not seeing here ) and last wing chun learns that a block is an attack to ( not seeing it here either)
may i know where you guys learn your "wing chun"
cuzz it aint wing chun ..
Narascha 3 years ago
first grade students huh! hjehee
JotaSk8Bdr 4 years ago
nyuu.. not real wing-chun.. i practise it.. we never stand like this, or even move like this.. and they are too slow ^^
Trizz099 4 years ago
These guys need to pay more attention in class..
WingChunBro 5 years ago
also, wing tsun is not a one punch at a time system of fighting. you NEVER throw one punch, you always move both hands forward and then punch continuously. this isn't wing tsun.
crackinthekraken 5 years ago
never is a big word. You are speaking of a chain punch only.
monji112000 4 years ago
has anyone else noticed that their footwork isn't wing-tsun like at all? they "walk", they pick up one leg and put it down and then pick up the other leg to follow. maybe it's just my school (i do ebmas), but from all i've learned, you're supposed to adduct (eg pull your knees together) and "snap" with your legs to give you your mobility.
crackinthekraken 5 years ago
dont make me laugh
mastasifukilla 5 years ago
Everytime a wing chun sparring vid comes up there are people saying "Thats not wing chun!" or some such rubbish. Truth is, you can't really do wing chun when sparring because it relys on agression and taking all your opponents options away. Who would learn anything if you did that in training?
pikeamus 5 years ago
Why is it that people who have something against wing chun has NEVER ever taken wing chun (or the various styles or schools of wing chun)?
Jenfucius 5 years ago
Then don't spar with intention. Don't spar at all then! Just do your forms, drills and assume you will be able to handle an attack on a street by a person who will hit you hard and fast. I.e someone who has trained in boxing/muay thai and is also a street fighter. Are you ready for that? Have you tested yourself?
MykeTyson 5 years ago
I have and do test myself. As the captain of my university wing tsun club I organise sparring with the senior members of the other martial arts societies (and believe me its hard to get some of them to test themselves) for that very purpose. My point is that you can't really fight like you would on the street in training, whatever the level of training.
pikeamus 5 years ago
I agree. At least sparring (boxing/W.C/Muay Thai/fma,) gets you into the right mindset.
I mean at least you are engaged with another person and can have an idea.
MykeTyson 5 years ago
That's not Wingchun End of Story!
oriater 5 years ago
I would like to know what are you guys doing, I hope is not wing chun !!! Peter
pekung 5 years ago
only some wingchun fighters, but that would only be lack of correction from their teachers or maybe the teacher doesnt know better, which would be a shame
weihengxin 5 years ago
The problem with most wing chun training is its rare to punch to the head in sparring. With out that element of danger, people get relaxed and never develop a good defence. When boxing training, more emphasis is placed on actually getting hit. You learn real quick to keep your hands up. Is it me, or has anybody else noticed that wing chun fighters often do not tuck their chin, but rather lean their heads back to make more distance?
jlittle1978 5 years ago
Yes i know what you mean. I started W.C b4 boxing. ANd yes many beginner W.C students don't tuck their chins in. And they do not know how to deal with quick/fast strikes to the head/body in volume, the beginners worry about trapping TOO MUCH. Hard to trap a guy who strikes very fast and painful. Boxing helps you get over the shock of getting hit.
MykeTyson 5 years ago
The only real way to perfect wing chun is to leave the school and actually fight non-wing chun fighters. The best teacher is experience. No sifu is going to make you a good fighter. No matter how many times someone tells you to tuck your chin, you won't do it till you get clocked once or twice.
jlittle1978 5 years ago
True. Though at least in a boxing sparring session, you wear a mouthguard and headgear. So even if someone does rock you on the chin, you only get slightly hurt and not a broken jaw. For the most part ;) Unless you are sparring with Tyson or something.
MykeTyson 5 years ago
Boxing gloves may not work, but I don't see why wing chun schools don't use UFC glooves and face masks. The kids are too worried about getting hit so they never really engage I think.
jlittle1978 5 years ago
Few Few few Wing Chun schools have incorperated the MMA style gloves for grappling and trapping plus boxing hits. I don't agree totally with the face mask though. I mean whats the point if you never experience what its like to be hit in the nose/chin areas? Unless medically you are required to wear a face mask of course.
MykeTyson 5 years ago
Face masks just protect from excess damage. Its still possible to feel the "shock" of a punch. Theres no other way to train with real speed, power and distance while eliminating the danger of permanent injury. Boxing gloves may allow for cushioned hits to the nose and jaw for conditioning, but are not realistic for grabbing. The point is to deal with the "shock" of getting hit. That can be trained with a helmet too. At least its a step up from just punching in the air.
jlittle1978 5 years ago
True. Though getting it "raw" in the boxing gym during sparring is helping me blink less now when I actually get nailed in the nose/chin. I agree with you though, boxing gloves lack the grappling/trapping emphasis.
MykeTyson 5 years ago
Dropping the hands is a problem for any fighter. IN wing chun you are not suppose to let your hands drop ever! As far as jabs are concerned, many awesome defenses against that, Bong Sao/Wu Sao, you actually catch the hand as it pulls back from the jab 'No Matter How Fast The Jab' Your two cents were worth a lot, you are correct in what you say! Thanks!
xbox360boi 5 years ago
I am fitgreatguy, I don't know how I got the name xbox360boi
xbox360boi 5 years ago
I'm not sure how long they've been practicing, but one pitfall of wing chun training is letting the hands drop too low. You have to keep them higher in front of the face, or a real boxer will pick your face apart with jabs alone. Second, commit to an attack, don't spend the whole time faking. Third, don't forget you have legs to kick. Use them as a distraction to the lower body while you attack upstairs. Thats just my two cents.
jlittle1978 5 years ago
NAAA! don't think so,they need more work.
shengchenfan 5 years ago
i agree with fitgreatguy
Herooo 5 years ago
looks like plain boxing. I have much to learn too, however, I believe you want to match parallel stance, close gap & work to blind side
FITGREATGUY 5 years ago
it would be a travesty to compare this to boxing
nezha44 5 years ago