Lamento della Ninfa

[elbaclar]

I don't like this version, sorry.

[elfapoderosa]

Lindo!

[fun457]

ah

[A2Z113]

how can you not love this ,

how can people not see the beauty in such elegance !

their loss ,

love .

ode to beauty ,

[WilbergWBWW]

hamm

[nicosupersex]

she's really kind of a pop singer.....it also sounds like these singers from southamerica singing musica andina....... it's strange the rubato thing.........

[nicosupersex]

she's really kind of a pop singer.....it also sounds like these singers from southamerica singing musica andina....... it's strange the rubato thing.........

[mrobyy]

che noia Che barba che noia...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[nabdel07]

she's a little out of tune... and the portamenti don't go with the style (at least the way she's using them). as for the tempo it is a little slow but still enjoyable

[nabdel07]

she's a little out of pitch... and the portamenti don't go with the style (at least the way she's using them). as for the tempo is enjoyable

[terimble]

I love this song and monteverdi since I heard it in music class

[luciagothic]

realmente, este inicio, magistral, misterioso y mágico.

Simple como las verdaderas cosas de la vida.

[Risefumota]

what`s the name of the picture?

[TheEuzkaro]

Oo wow! what an amazing (Madrigal) poliphonie! ñ_ñ

[Luzepica1]

Me encanta!

I love this song!

[agentealcairo]

non credo esista la registrazione ma a me piace molto anche diretta da Fabio Lombardo

[StradMan37]

Renaissance monks thinking impure thoughts (the attached pic) - whilst singing a capella gregorian chant music, albiet with a female lead chanter...the one raised digit, in the charming pic, may be issuing a caution to those very same men of the cloth!

[PhilippineJeann]

Beautiful vocalist , thanks Peter

[mavrikha]

who sings this version? it's a lot milder and warmer in sound than all the other ones, maybe it's not technically as perfect, but I really love it :D the flatter voice really makes it an interesting rendition :)

[mtierra]

Late renaissance blues -- a little too schmaltzy and lacking in elegance

[omoetamo]

e' un'altro monteverdi! bello o brutto non riesco a capire. la musica però, ha un respiro profondo, esce dai moti più interni del cuore e di questo bisogna dar atto.

La venexiana travalica sempre i limiti. Gli esiti più o meno felici in base alle orecchie di ciascuno. Bel dilemma! Mi capita raramente non riuscire a prendere posizione.

[carontespecial]

Una domanda: si tratta di una reinterpretazione con contaminazioni moderne? Risulta tutto un po' sopra le righe in diversi modi, dal tempo eccessivamente lento all'utilizzo "pop" della voce del soprano che, nonostante questo utilizzo insolito per questo repertorio, è comunque molto bella. Grazie.

[kgus123]

Am I crazy or does this singer have a very contemporary sound? It's difficult to describe, but I feel like she could just as easily be singing pop music in the same way.

Boy, is this comment going to get into hot water here.

[KapsTheLocks]

@kgus123

Her voice is baroque, but the way she bows bends each note downwards at the onset is more often heard soul and r'n'b. Is that what you mean?

[KapsTheLocks]

@kgus123

and that thing annoys me because she does it all the time.

[kgus123]

@KapsTheLocks

After another listen: she has a lighter, flatter voice than I'm used to (as opposed to a rich, full sound) -- this leads to a less subtle shading of the notes. In addition, her vibrato makes her seem a little shrill at times.

This more contemporary sound (to my ears, ar least) lessens the emotional impact, but I can understand why many listeners enjoy it so much: there's a unique spontaneity and sense of presense in this performance.

[gflower1970]

@kgus123 Absolutely...she is bending notes, starting on the note below it and sliding up. This is a technique widely used in modern pop music. I have heard it done in early music but not in almost every phrase like this, more as an occasional accent. I would love to know her reasons for this (did she find documentation that this was done in Monteverdi's time? Does she always do this by habit? Did her music director ask for this?). The other singers aren't doing it at all in this recording.

[Alhaja7Goth]

Hermoso. Simplemente hermoso

[gringogo]

Hey, is there an album this version's on? thanks

[thebarroque]

Yes it is, La Venexiana's recording of "il Ottavo libro dei Madrigali" under Claudio Cavina, label Glossa

[gringogo]

Thank you. Sadly, Itunes hasn't got it. Just now I can't get enough of the Figueras version...

[NedRorem]

il piè mirando, il ciel fermò? ("looking at her feet, she stopped the sky") Davvero? Magari aveva più senso così nel testo di Rinuccini, per evitare l'enjambement "il ciel / mirando, il piè fermò", ma Monteverdi ha cambiato l'ordine delle parole a ragion veduta.

Poi, va bene la sprezzatura (che comunque a me suona forzata e prevedibile), ma perché un tempo così lento? A questo tempo si perde tutto il senso delle frasi, sia musicali che verbali.

[LaChirighirighella]

Monteverdi prescrive al cantato della ninfa comunque un tempo "de l'affetto del animo, e non a quello de la mano". E poi è un interpretazione abbastanza adeguata alla parola

[Monteverdiforever]

This is what Monteverdi thought about how to sing this Lamento....Bravo Claudio Cavina and bravo Venexiana!

[kkallebb]

Incredibly intense and interesting performance. Wonderful use of rubato throughout.

[EduardoBrasil10000]

Eu amo o italiano. Amo todas as línguas românicas. É como um tipo de luxúria ouvir/ler esses modos diferentes de falar, pensar, parentes do meu.

[1PostPoMoMaN1]

Me too. I like Italian and Latin the most.

[asiairish]

I love this rendition, subtle and intense. Profound grief does not have to be expressed with out-of- control abandonment like Catherine in Emily Bronte's Wuthering Heights.

[MaciasEnglish]

Boring.

[honeyspur]

this is so uniquely sublime....

[manwithemeraldeyes]

i simply love this rendition.. modern with alot of agony and affectations :) great job!

[floramra86]

non mi piace..

[1PostPoMoMaN1]

Sorreh to hear that.

[laurabarocca]

L'esecuzione migliore resta sempre quella diretta da Rinaldo Alessandrini, con Rossana Bertini nel ruolo della ninfa...

[thebarroque]

I have two favorites:

1-Figueras

2-This one, however I consider that this lament is performed better when La venexiana uses Emanuela Galli in the role of La Ninfa.

[natachamuiz]

@laurabarocca Ma certo!!! saluti da Buenos Aires!

[mradaChris]

That was very beautiful!

chris

[thebarroque]

About this Madrigal Claudio Cavina (La Venexiana's director) says: "A particularly special for us is the Lamento della Ninfa (an opuscolo in genere rappresentativo from the Eighth Book). In this madrigal Monteverdi employs a new form where the three mens voices sing with hand tempo whilst the soprano sings with a free tempo. In La Venexiana we perform it live as a jazz piece and every time the audiences reaction is fascination and huge enthusiasm...

[thebarroque]

...This way of performing early music began with Monteverdi but we find reference to it in the literature some considerable time later when, in a very important 18th-century treatise, Opinioni de cantori antichi e moderni, Pier Francesco Tosi wrote that rubato is very good in a slow piece and yet better in ternary tempo. The best singer will be the one who after exercising rubato will be able to return to the good as in original tempo. ...

[thebarroque]

...Clearly and this treatise was published in 1723  this was a practice common in baroque music and Monteverdi was indeed a precursor of a musical idea which was used across the 18th century (and later, of course!)." that's why this performing sounds to us very different, but is an interpreteation of the music that really aproaches to the stylistic rules of Monteverdi's time =)