I was in the Army, and there's a lot of truth to this. If you read about cult brainwashing on HowStuffWorks and compare it to basic training, it's the exact same formula.
I always talk about how being in the army does not make you a better, or extra person. I once did it on a chatroom and almost everyone called me an idiot asshole who hated freedom.....
I have to Disagree. Not because I don't agree with your view, I agree with pretty much everything you say, but fighting for our Freedom is just what they put on T.V. The Majority of them, I have to say, are fighting for a paycheck. I know several Military men who have retained their individuality. And are only in the Military for the pay.
This is even stupider than blaming the police for laws. I understand being angry at police, since they're the ones that actually arrest you. But we can all agree it was a judge, lawyer or a politician who made what you did illegal, and it's a judge who's going to actually condemn you. At least the police have some discretion in the matter. But the military has absofuckinglutely nothing to do with that. BTW some of the smartest and overall best people I have met work or have worked in the USAF.
This is retarded. Everything you said refers not to the military but to the legislative, exec and judicial branches of our federal govt. You're talking about things that politicians have done, not the members of the military. Same people who are in charge of making policy decisions such as whether or not to go to war. The military does not make these decisions, politicians do. The military is in charge of carrying out decisions. That's why it's called the SERVICE.
And for the record, our troops do fight for freedom. Just because you can't masturbate to little girls and jab heroin needles into your eyes in public doesn't mean our freedoms are becoming more restricted here at home.
@xXSgtWolfXx "Just because you can't masturbate to little girls and jab heroin needles into your eyes in public doesn't mean our freedoms are becoming more restricted here at home" Dude, WTF are you smoking?? What planet are you living on? I moved out of the States and now live in Europe because there's damn near NO rights in America anymore. Freedom of speech, right? Don't make me laugh...
They don't even come close. Garbage men and fast food workers do not go to war, they do not engage in combat and get shot at, they do not give up their freedoms to defend their country. You say our troops are brainwashed? That's entirely false. I know a lot of military personell personally, and they're the same people they were before they went into the military, only stronger, mentally and physically.
@xXSgtWolfXx I also know a quite a few people who come back from combat and war who are mentally unstable and don't know how to cope with what they've been put through or seen.
@PopMami It's called PTSD and it is a very unfortunate condition that not just combat veterans suffer, but many people who experience traumatic events. It is treatable, though and there are advances being made to help people with this condition.
I agree with all of your other videos pretty much, but this one kind of makes me dislike you. Why would you badmouth our military? They are not thugs... and they should be looked up to, because they do a very difficult and thankless job. You said garbage men and fast food workers do thankless, hard jobs as well, but those don't even compare to the things that our military personnel do.
@SapphireMoonWolf People like him, that question and argue are the only thing keeping this world from collapsing. If every retard sat by saying "get a life" this country would be even worse.
Well if you think that you really want to live in a free country, then go find one. When someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night, steals all your belongings, and kills your family don't fret because they live in a free country and that kind of stuff would be allowed...
As someone who wanted to join but could not (im hearing impaired) some of this video rings true. I did not do well in school, and being in the military always looks good on college applications or resumes. But before i joined i told myself i that while i would play along with their training, I would not do anything that goes against my moral code. In the end the point was moot though. Its kinda important to be able to hear your commander when he tells you to do something. "shoot!" "what?" heh.
@bmaseray Play along in their training??? Are you fucking kidding me man. That training is designed to save your life and prepare you for dangerous situations. Its obvious you weren't serious about joining.
@Razor6731 Yup. I would not have made a good soldier. Imagine being in the middle of battle and My CO told me to do something, and I said "What?". Being practically deaf sucks.
all groups and I think all values and I am willing to sacrifice my freedoms to defend people's freedom to vote for their own value and beliefs (although I hope that one day everyone will vote to not restrict opposing values and beliefs).
@tommygun88 I myself don't disrespect the sacrifices that military members make, however I would argue that whilst I respect their bravery, I believe the military does more harm than good. You just admitted that the main purpose is to take lives, and whilst I don't blame the service members for that, taking lives is wrong. There are better ways of challenging violent ideals. Killing someone to remove a violent ideal means that their ideal multiplied in your reaction. This is counter-immorality.
@ec123456789able and I would also prefer a world where there was no violence and everyone could work together to achieve greater things, especially in science, but unfortunately, the military is a necessary thing where there are conflicting ideologies and where it is necessary to ensure that innocent civilians are protected from all threats, both foreign and domestic. So, yes, what the military does is essentially immoral, but they defend our way of life (theoretically_.
@tommygun88 I suppose we have differing ideologies, however I myself am a Pacifist. Pacifism does require sacrifice to a certain degree, I am not denying that, but if we have to kill to preserve our way of life then our way of life is built on cruelty and violence. As for defending civilians, there are other ways of doing so, like evacuations and defence that doesn't result in purposeful killing. If we have a kind of meritocracy where the victors are those who killed more then it is immoral.
Are you seriously saying you joined the army for a reason other than the money?
Unless you'd be willing to do it without pay, I question the 'you did it just to spread freedom' stuff, even if you actually were spreading democracy.
@unassumption First off, I'm Air Force, not Army. Second, yes, I did join in part for the money and the stability and the training and the benefits. But is it ridiculous to think that I also like being part of something bigger than myself where I can do something that matters?
This guy is an asshole. Comparing America's men and women who currently are in the military to garbagement and people working in the fastfood as meaningless? This guy is an idiot and anybody who agrees with him is an idiot. This guy better not find me in a dark ally he is lible to get his asswhopped.
@AZsportshut Yes, through your brilliantly ironic response you have showed him and us that you are far from a thug, and certainly by no means a punk-that's for sure.
@AZsportshut But they are in some respects. Soldiers preform a hard, dirty, and somewhat necessary job. Garbageman and fast food workers preform hard dirty and somewhat necessary jobs. How are they not similar in that regard? A solders job is alot harder and alot dirtier, and in rare cases, alot more necessary, but the comparison is still valid. He is saying is dont call someone a hero just because they are in the military. Sure it leads to heroic opportunities but its not the same
@bmaseray No, it isn't even close to the same. People in the military are putting their lives on the line, you simply can't make the same comparision. Fast food is not a necessary job and even alot less heroic, people can live without McDonalds. I've never seen a garbage man put in a situation where his life is a risk. Its people like this asshole that don't understand what is going on in the world, but still bad talks our troops and the freedom they defend. Freedom isn't free.
@AZsportshut Um, Ok. I agree that fast food is not really a good comparison. But Garbage men do hard, dirty and necessary work. Right? Soldiers do hard, dirty and (arguably) necessary work. The only difference is the degree in which they are hard dirty and necessary.
And if you think our troupes are protecting our freedom, you have to wonder what they are doing way over on the other side of the world instead of over here. I fail to see how the wars overseas affect OUR freedom.
@bmaseray soldiers jobs are way more dangerous than garbagemen, and go months and years without getting to see their family and away from their homes, for the country
@pizaz1001 Yup. Your right. But a garbageman's job is still moderately dangerous, its not unheard of for them to loose an hand in the trash compresser, The comparison still stands. A garbagemans job is hard, dangerous and necessary. So is a soldier. as i have said before the differs is in the degree in which the jobs are hard dangerous and necessary. THE COMPARISON STILL STANDS. And most people i know in the service are in it for the cash, the whole freedom thing is just a bonus.
@bmaseray no the comparison does not stand at all, and to say soldiers do it for the money is the most retarded thing ive ever heard, i know several ppl in the millitary, and none of them do it for the money they dont even get paid a lot, and garbagemen get to see their family every night
but there are several other purposes that the military fulfills such as disaster relief, securing borders, cyber security, search and rescue, advising foreign military so that they can protect their own, space security, and many other things. I don't believe in forcing my values on other people and I believe legalizing drugs (not for personal use, but I think it makes sense fiscally. As long as there's a buyer, there's a market) and I consider myself a progressive and I support equality for
don't judge me or other service members and don't try to trivialize our sacrifices by calling us all thugs just because we're going to other countries when we're only carrying out the mission given to us. I think our military needs to be brought home and I'm glad that they're being brought home from Iraq and soon Afghanistan as well, but I'm sick of this whole demonizing of the military. I'm proud of what I do and the military isn't just designed to kill, granted that is the main mission,
military is for security. We need to protect our borders and our government and the people who try to earn a living and against all threats, both foreign and domestic. Those are things I swore to in the oath. I just don't like that he calls us all "paid thugs to kill for America". I think that's a disingenuous and a bit of a generalization. Granted, there are douche-bags in the military and we're not all honorable people and there are other dangerous but necessary jobs in America, but
I joined for several reasons. At the time I had joined, I was already skeptical about the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and I knew that we didn't really belong there but I was able to justify our current presence there by saying, "Well, we made the mess, so we should clean it up." I think we should take the responsibility for it so we should try to help rebuild the government we tore down. I agree with theamazingatheist about the whole "freedom" concept. One of the main reasons we need a
@DracoAquarian1 I do drugs, they're fun, I've been doing them for quite a time actually and I'm doing pretty good, some of them are legal, others not. But I'm not into the so called "hard-drugs" since I know they're pretty dangerous, and they are. But I still think they should be legal. People who do drugs and can not handle them or have the good sense to stay away from the harder drugs should not be considered criminals, but patients. F.e. Would you convict a morphine addict for trying to buy?
I don't know about legal or illegal, but society should figure out a way to decrease the demand for drugs in general (legal and illegal). When you start to get older you realize that drugs take more from you than they give. That's the way it works. It's always been like that since the beginning of recorded history. There are accounts from Ancient Egypt of drug addicts. I bet you think you're unique when it comes to drugs ey ?
@DracoAquarian1 I don't necessarily think society should figure out ways to decrease drug use, it obviously depends entirely on the drug but I think experimentation with our minds is something people should try if they feel so inclined. I think saying that all drugs take away more than they give is false, take for example alcohol which is a drug can give you fond memories and having taken away little. And no, I don't think I'm special at all, people like me are actually quite common.
Watching five AmazingAtheist videos simultaneously: watch a minute of one video, pause; next video, pause; and so on... What happened to FakeSagan? I remember that guy...
War is stupid. It solves nothing, and only leads to more conflict, which costs money. This is problematic for america, our economy is screwed up because of past problems, yet the government writes billion dollar checks like it's nothing, that we pay for! We should send peace treaties, not inexpensive checks!
Fuck you!1off If you do drugs like P.C.P or L.S.D you should be thrown into jail(because you cant control your actions).Freedom speech zones suck;but at least we are not like Canada and Britain were you get arrested for speaking out.Fuck you the military is and has done more good.Then it has done bad.And one more thing fuck Bush.
@noofatchiks I was high (I was on weed) when I wrote that.And yet I still more reasonable then T.J. was in this subject.P.S. JUdgeing by your name I'am guessing your a small dick douch bag.
I was very wrong and blind. There really is a God. Atheists are amazing, yes. Amazingly blind. Thankyou, Jesus, you've saved me from Hell. I'm sorry for all the people that I helped send to Hell with my ignorance. :°(
You know, TJ, you talk about the United States military as some sort of gang (which I can largely agree with, since I serve in that gang), but you've only mentioned the Army in this video. You didn't exactly touch up on other branches like the Navy, Marines, etc. The only reason I even bring this up is b/c you brought up the army. Do you view all military members in the same light? If so, do reply back. I know this video was made a few years ago, but I hardly doubt your opinion has changed much.
When vietnam war veterans say they fight for our freedom, they sadly actually believe it. If out of nowhere all the most powerful countries came to invade america and turn it into a communist regime and war broke out, THEN the troops would be fighting for our freedom. I disagree with you when you say they are thugs, they're more like tools of politicians.
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TJ on this your an ass. I agree with alot of your videos but I was in the Army and the soliders ARE NOT the problem its the orders that they can not disobey by the higher ups, not to say that there is no problem at all, but. They in large are wanting to help there country and are proud to serve. They want to protect our limited freedoms and borrowed rights but policy has gotten in the way since WW2. And that is directly do to this kind of speech towards soldiers and not the real problem.
Isa 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! 5:21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
These aren't soldiers, there warriors. Warriors attack and conquer, they prey on the weak. Soldiers defend and protect the innocent—usually from warriors."
TJ on this your an ass. I agree with alot of your videos but I was in the Army and the soliders ARE NOT the problem its the orders that they can not disobey by the higher ups, not to say that there is no problem at all, but. They in large are wanting to help there country and are proud to serve. They want to protect our limited freedoms and borrowed rights but policy has gotten in the way since WW2. And that is directly do to this kind of speech towards soldiers and not the real problem.
Well, you can't talk about Basic Combat Training. You obiviously haven't been through it. It didn't strip away my individual personality. I am no longer in the Army, but I am still the same person I was before I enlisted into it. I do enjoy your other videos though, and you do have the right to say this. So, go ahead and exercise your right.
@SpiffyMcWiffleB I strongly agree with him,because we deserve more freedoms and the government-corporations are limiting it, but you guys get your oders from the very people who limit our freedoms, people deserve to control their own bodies, i don't do drugs because they are stupid but if someone wants to drink or smoke then why not allow them to experience any drug they want at their choice< tobaco companies wouldn't allow it.
@jmeholland military people are idiots. they think getting shot in the face is a good job to have. theres nothing heroic about losing half your face. it makes you even uglier than you already were. argue this tool. if you dont believe in what this GENIUS is saying then why are you on his page? giving him a view
There is something heroic about it. They give up their lives so you can spew your bullshit.
Besides, war and fighting is very prominent in the evolutionary history of our species. It's bred into us. We are a group species that is violent towards other groups. Even your simple bashing of the military is only a manifestation of your instincts as a human, you are degrading another social group in a attempt to give you, and your group a higher social standing.
@Casna101 big words doesnt make you smart. 99.9999999% of people on earth used to believe earth was flat and guess who won out the .00000001% who said no your wrong were actually write. guess whats gonna happen to christianity
Big words? What big words did I use? Anyone with a basic understanding of anthropology could easily understand what I said.
Also, your incoherent rambling about the earth being flat and Christianity was completely irrelevant to the argument, considering I myself am obviously an atheist. I am very concerned for your reading comprehension skills, have you seen a trained professional? It is possible your symptoms could be reversed if treated soon.
You make some interesting points. I do disagree with what you think the military is for, I think it's rather a deterrence of arms, brought about through necessity. P.S. I enjoy watching all your videos.
"Is it any more honorable than the delivery man"
Well I guess this is arguable on both sides and comes down to subjective view honestly and everything TJ and I say is subjective.... But from personal experience, knowing what my grandfather went through in the Korean War, I'd have to take the contrary position and say yes it is more important, and I do see difficulty and sacrifice as a factor involved into how important a job is, because of how much less likely people are willing to do it.
However, it's not the soldier's job to write legislation, and fight the government (physically). It's to FIGHT those that are a legitimate violent threats against us. That's our job as citizens, to vote, and in extreme cases of government tyranny take up arms and take back the government and only then can soldiers/marines/whatever fight (phsyically) against it....
"Let's say you are fighting for my freedom and lets take that at face value"
When that quote is said, it's not meant to be taken literally. You wouldn't think someone saying it's raining cats and dogs actually means it, now would you? What it actually means, is they're fighting so fascists don't take away the many hundreds of thousands of freedoms you take for granite, not anarchy, however as a libertarian, I do agree with you on the drug and free to do to your body speech.
@FamineIsAwesome you don't have to invade other countries and establish bases all over the world and spend billions a year regulating these bases to protect american rights.
@ColossusShade Wait, which bases are you talking about? Sure this may apply to some, but let's take that crazy fucker Kim Jong Ill, in North Korea or Saddam Hussein in Iraq for instance, one threatening to blow South Korea with nukes, and the middle eastern genocidal Hitler trying to make chemical weapons. I'm not saying how the government utilizes the military is perfect, I'm just defending the troops, and in many instances but not all this is correct and we do spend too much.
How so? Many people fight for the tradition, and the "stability" you mention. The way I see it those are very honorable causes, that benefits everyone, and helps keep your rights.. And not to mention 9/11 was caused by religious fascists, and our soldiers are fighting and killing the fuckers in Afghanistan. How can someone like you not find that honorable? What do you expect us to do, ask them to not do it again and hope they quit? Isn't that kind of like letting the bully win?
@FamineIsAwesome Is it any more honorable than the delivery man who brings the produce to a grocery store. He, in turn, is helping to feed the consumers of that store. The level of danger in your job does not change the necessity of it. And no, I am not sucking TJ's cock, he just holds the same opinion as me on the matter.
This is complete bullshit too. Try WWII and Nazi Germany and Hitler which in another video TJ felt we used justified force so we wouldn't be slaughtered and have our freedoms taken away, what a hypocrite.
This guy is comparing soldiers/marines/airmen/sailors to garbage men, and fast food workers? Talk about some ignorant shit typical of a complete overfed fat fuck. Try being away from your family and the ones you love for months, and getting hit by an IED. I find it hilariously stupid to compare them.
So the military doesn't protect our freedoms because you don't have the freedom to expose yourself nude in public and fap to underage girls? And to address another point you made, garbage men/fast food workers don't get shot at and have to watch their best friends die and endure the atrocities of war and the hardships of life in the military, such as being away from friends and family for long periods of time, etc. (you know what I'm getting at). I love your other vids but don't bash our troops.
Well of course it is. How else would you get a piece of ass? Military men are too poor to hire call girls decent normal chicks tend to go after college grads with careers. :)
@FLICKtheUSA That's why you're a pathetic nerd who jacks off 50 times a day in his mothers basement and I actually have a girlfriend and get pussy. Hehe. :)
@redcommander27 Seriously? The military itself IS an armed and violent gang with the monopoly on violence in its territory. That doesn't strike you as something that should be bashed as evil and violent? If not, you've got some dangerous viewpoints...
Each individual GI Joe and Jane ultimately decides what is right or wrong. The average one may be dumb but not enough to be oblivious to vice looking them in the FACE!! Truth is, they'll eat them orders UP so they can get that paycheck to buy their Xbox 360 and/or keep up on them Ford Expedition payments, if not relinquish half of it over to some female recruit to get some two-bit cheap pussy. So who ya trying to kid? Those of us that really know the score? I seriously DOUBT THAT!!!
Whatever, its just stupid when people generalize and trash all the solider over government policy, look at history, the soldiers were never blamed for the wars unless they individually committed war crimes (such as killing civilians) or the unit, division or branch did
Alright. Grant it. The Captians and the Kings along with their cronies calls the shots. The soldier slaps on the bayonet and marches to it (whether he wanna or not). He don't have much say in matter. You may have been pondering US involvement in Vietnam in particular as a VERY prime instance. Over there he was sandbagged to fight the gooks. Upon his return he had to fight the hippies and other anti-war kooks. He got no hero's welcome, only a villian's damnation. Yeah, I hear ya..go on.
Don't blame the everyday soldier, blame the Generals and the corrupted gov't. the sling out their propaganda to children, propaganda saying that living and dying for your country is honorable. People like you that were able to disagree and question the evils are truly respectable. But not everyone can do that especially when their brainwashing is terrific. I commend you for seeking for the truth. But its not the normal everyday soldier to blame. they are doing what they were taught was right.
@ramnarainy every man should think for themselfs whats right, then they would probably notice how they always talk about dying for their country , but never of killing for their country.
In that case don't you EVER condemn those japs for what they did to the Chinese ("Massacre of Nanking" "Shanghai", etc.) and what the krouts did those Euopeans that didn't "fit in" (like killng 250 little gypsy children as guinea pigs in testing out the effectiveness of Cyclon-B) and the Russians". Don't you dare do so, because they were only doing what they were told was of the highest good and uninpeachable righteousness. YOU BETTER NOT!!!!
@SwarthySkinnedOne you have a damn good point there and I feel that some of those were just following orders and some just the evils of the individuals. But the deaths of gypsies and Russians to test out Zyklon-b were carried out by high ranking officials like Joseph Mengel. he did it willingly and probably didnt need orders to kill and test on so many.
The US military largely exist for it's own sake, like a club. The boot camp ordeal is just some sort of crucible to let in those that pass and eject those that don't measure up 4 rewards of the good life. It's for people who want to make lots of money and be completely taken cared of who couldn't get this kind of security in civilian life. They drink, fornucate, commit adultry, buy new cars and trucks, electronic toys, enjoy fat pensions, etc. They give not a damn 'bout Patriotic values. Really.
Don't believe me? K. Think we need a recurrence of a WWII scenario for a simple demonstration, to show what will really manifest when the chips are down.Could todays boys and now girls in uniform stand up to a typical hard-bitten Nazi and Jap soldier in the trenches and on the ships? I woundn't count on it. These Axis soldiers would easily show just how flabby and inept our So-called US soldier of now really are. show what the Charles A. Granners and Lindsy Englands are truly made of.
And BTW That "Saving Private Ryan" flick was just a load of bunk, and Childish propaganda. Why were the Germans portrayed as balding lanky gawky goons!?! That was an idiotic example of empty American bravado superiority nonsense. They didn't look that way in portrayal in war films and actuality in newsreels produced back in the WWII era. Not by a long shot. Why must we Americans be so infaturated by illusion and make-believe is something I'll never be made to understand.
@SwarthySkinnedOne As an American, I must say you hit it on the head! This country is fooled into thinking that it is a "free" society, when in fact it is quite the contrary. The public is controlled and manipulated by the wealthy and the media.
Celebrity and pop-culture are tools of mind-control. Our democracy is a no more than a sugar coated lie being manipulated by the real deal two-party system which boasts a collection of third party drones to sweeten the illusion.
@Ieafs1319 I am not quarterexchange. Didn't you read my comment? The vietnamese didn't kill 3 million cambodians.
Pol pot, the anti-vietnamese communist leader in Cambodia killed ca 2 million cambodians in what we now know as the cambodian genocide. Ca 10 000 of them were Vietnamese and ca 300 000 of them were suspected Vitenam sympathizers.
@FLICKtheUSA Are you trolling or just plain hateful by nature? I said the IDEA, i.e. the one they sell to the public is about freedom.
A lot of people who join the military is because they aren't happy or fulfilled (or they may be have been damaged by a bad break up or something) with their homelife and are good innocent people (as much as anybody else).
Human's take advantage of eachother on a regular basis all through history, why do you really hate the USA?
I agree, people who join the military are indeed "damaged." They couldn't get into a college or even a third rate tech school; so other than bagging groceries there's the military.
As for hating the USA - I hate the fact this fucked up country values Israeli security over its own. How do the Jews repay protection and unconditional support? By stealing and selling secrets to the highest bidder.
@FLICKtheUSA The whole worlds fucked up, it's not just USA and Israel. If you disagree with the USA's policy's, how does that mean that good men deserve to die? (I know they're not all good but statistically speaking I'd say most are). That's just irrational. BTW, are you anti semetic at all or when you say jews are you just reffering to Israel? A lot of the soldiers may just be misinformed.
Though I do agree America is fucked up more than most major countries.
It is anti-semitism that is justified. No other race gets away with their atrocities. Iraq wasn't a threat to the US. But AIPAC wanted Iraq taken care of. The Israeli "artists" in New York City who skipped the country after 9/11 - implies Israel knew about the attacks and did nothing.
If you take away Israeli policy, and Jewish bullshit, I wouldn't hate them at all. I didn't wake up one morning and decide to hate Jews.
I can understand your view on freedom, but how chaotic would it be if there weren't some restrictions to it?
JojoTheUnstoppable 7 hours ago
lol, FakeSagan's video has been removed.
TheBrettBretterson 13 hours ago
This is the most insightful critique of the military I have ever come across. You have an amazing mind, AmazingAtheist.
FoxOutsideBox 3 days ago
@FoxOutsideBox yap dat be timid tj from a few years ago :D
now he exaggerates more to be dramatic and funny :P
spiritbond8 1 day ago
I was in the Army, and there's a lot of truth to this. If you read about cult brainwashing on HowStuffWorks and compare it to basic training, it's the exact same formula.
IseeRightThrough2you 3 days ago
What a load of horseshit.
NYGFan90 4 days ago
@NYGFan90 ohh have you been in the army?
ABustyBanana 13 hours ago
He is absolutely correct. I was in the Navy. My individuality can be subdued for practical reasons, but never broken. I inevitably went apeshit.
Snakepliskinist 5 days ago
I always talk about how being in the army does not make you a better, or extra person. I once did it on a chatroom and almost everyone called me an idiot asshole who hated freedom.....
dolerbom 5 days ago
@dolerbom lol doleer
pschodoughboy 5 days ago
@pschodoughboy Not that chatroom o.O It was in wow. Also, glad to see you watch these videos.
dolerbom 5 days ago
I have to Disagree. Not because I don't agree with your view, I agree with pretty much everything you say, but fighting for our Freedom is just what they put on T.V. The Majority of them, I have to say, are fighting for a paycheck. I know several Military men who have retained their individuality. And are only in the Military for the pay.
demonicdarkwolf 6 days ago
This is even stupider than blaming the police for laws. I understand being angry at police, since they're the ones that actually arrest you. But we can all agree it was a judge, lawyer or a politician who made what you did illegal, and it's a judge who's going to actually condemn you. At least the police have some discretion in the matter. But the military has absofuckinglutely nothing to do with that. BTW some of the smartest and overall best people I have met work or have worked in the USAF.
redrounin 6 days ago
This is retarded. Everything you said refers not to the military but to the legislative, exec and judicial branches of our federal govt. You're talking about things that politicians have done, not the members of the military. Same people who are in charge of making policy decisions such as whether or not to go to war. The military does not make these decisions, politicians do. The military is in charge of carrying out decisions. That's why it's called the SERVICE.
redrounin 6 days ago
And for the record, our troops do fight for freedom. Just because you can't masturbate to little girls and jab heroin needles into your eyes in public doesn't mean our freedoms are becoming more restricted here at home.
xXSgtWolfXx 1 week ago
@xXSgtWolfXx But we do see our freedoms slowly being stripped away from us by our government.
PopMami 1 week ago
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@xXSgtWolfXx "Just because you can't masturbate to little girls and jab heroin needles into your eyes in public doesn't mean our freedoms are becoming more restricted here at home" Dude, WTF are you smoking?? What planet are you living on? I moved out of the States and now live in Europe because there's damn near NO rights in America anymore. Freedom of speech, right? Don't make me laugh...
GroinFaceGroin 1 week ago
They don't even come close. Garbage men and fast food workers do not go to war, they do not engage in combat and get shot at, they do not give up their freedoms to defend their country. You say our troops are brainwashed? That's entirely false. I know a lot of military personell personally, and they're the same people they were before they went into the military, only stronger, mentally and physically.
xXSgtWolfXx 1 week ago
@xXSgtWolfXx I also know a quite a few people who come back from combat and war who are mentally unstable and don't know how to cope with what they've been put through or seen.
PopMami 1 week ago
@PopMami It's called PTSD and it is a very unfortunate condition that not just combat veterans suffer, but many people who experience traumatic events. It is treatable, though and there are advances being made to help people with this condition.
tommygun88 1 week ago
I agree with all of your other videos pretty much, but this one kind of makes me dislike you. Why would you badmouth our military? They are not thugs... and they should be looked up to, because they do a very difficult and thankless job. You said garbage men and fast food workers do thankless, hard jobs as well, but those don't even compare to the things that our military personnel do.
xXSgtWolfXx 1 week ago
does anyone think its weird how we are aloud to take the most addictive drug in the know world (nicotine) but not any others?
MetalDoneMoreForME 1 week ago
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heart and soul (thats all i know but i sing it because i am smart)
Maper555 1 week ago
What the hell is up with all your stupid rants? I have three words of advice for you: GET A LIFE.
SapphireMoonWolf 1 week ago
@SapphireMoonWolf lmao you are the one watching his videos, you need to get a life too.
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@SapphireMoonWolf People like him, that question and argue are the only thing keeping this world from collapsing. If every retard sat by saying "get a life" this country would be even worse.
WeeItsNookies 1 week ago
You sound very jealous...
jsadosky206 2 weeks ago
Well if you think that you really want to live in a free country, then go find one. When someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night, steals all your belongings, and kills your family don't fret because they live in a free country and that kind of stuff would be allowed...
jsadosky206 2 weeks ago
this is the first video of yours that i disagree with
pizaz1001 2 weeks ago
you are so right. Fuck the military and this country.
BurningRage25 2 weeks ago
@BurningRage25 than get the fuck out u dumbass hypocrite
pizaz1001 2 weeks ago
@pizaz1001 whatever cunt
BurningRage25 2 weeks ago
As someone who wanted to join but could not (im hearing impaired) some of this video rings true. I did not do well in school, and being in the military always looks good on college applications or resumes. But before i joined i told myself i that while i would play along with their training, I would not do anything that goes against my moral code. In the end the point was moot though. Its kinda important to be able to hear your commander when he tells you to do something. "shoot!" "what?" heh.
bmaseray 2 weeks ago
@bmaseray Play along in their training??? Are you fucking kidding me man. That training is designed to save your life and prepare you for dangerous situations. Its obvious you weren't serious about joining.
AZsportshut 2 weeks ago
@AZsportshut No i was serious. For better a worse i enlisted and they said NOPE. They did not want me.
bmaseray 2 weeks ago
@bmaseray around 50% of applicants get turned down at MEPS for various reasons, all of which are quality control.
Razor6731 1 week ago
@Razor6731 Yup. I would not have made a good soldier. Imagine being in the middle of battle and My CO told me to do something, and I said "What?". Being practically deaf sucks.
bmaseray 1 week ago
@bmaseray Hahaha understandable.
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you glorify the constitution and bash the military..... interesting.
LooksLegitBro 3 weeks ago
you glorify the constitution and bash the military..... interesting.
LooksLegitBro 3 weeks ago
all groups and I think all values and I am willing to sacrifice my freedoms to defend people's freedom to vote for their own value and beliefs (although I hope that one day everyone will vote to not restrict opposing values and beliefs).
tommygun88 1 month ago
@tommygun88 I myself don't disrespect the sacrifices that military members make, however I would argue that whilst I respect their bravery, I believe the military does more harm than good. You just admitted that the main purpose is to take lives, and whilst I don't blame the service members for that, taking lives is wrong. There are better ways of challenging violent ideals. Killing someone to remove a violent ideal means that their ideal multiplied in your reaction. This is counter-immorality.
ec123456789able 3 weeks ago
@ec123456789able and I would also prefer a world where there was no violence and everyone could work together to achieve greater things, especially in science, but unfortunately, the military is a necessary thing where there are conflicting ideologies and where it is necessary to ensure that innocent civilians are protected from all threats, both foreign and domestic. So, yes, what the military does is essentially immoral, but they defend our way of life (theoretically_.
tommygun88 3 weeks ago
@tommygun88 I suppose we have differing ideologies, however I myself am a Pacifist. Pacifism does require sacrifice to a certain degree, I am not denying that, but if we have to kill to preserve our way of life then our way of life is built on cruelty and violence. As for defending civilians, there are other ways of doing so, like evacuations and defence that doesn't result in purposeful killing. If we have a kind of meritocracy where the victors are those who killed more then it is immoral.
ec123456789able 3 weeks ago
@tommygun88
Are you seriously saying you joined the army for a reason other than the money?
Unless you'd be willing to do it without pay, I question the 'you did it just to spread freedom' stuff, even if you actually were spreading democracy.
unassumption 3 weeks ago
@unassumption First off, I'm Air Force, not Army. Second, yes, I did join in part for the money and the stability and the training and the benefits. But is it ridiculous to think that I also like being part of something bigger than myself where I can do something that matters?
tommygun88 3 weeks ago
This guy is an asshole. Comparing America's men and women who currently are in the military to garbagement and people working in the fastfood as meaningless? This guy is an idiot and anybody who agrees with him is an idiot. This guy better not find me in a dark ally he is lible to get his asswhopped.
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WannaBeLoris 2 weeks ago
@AZsportshut no body said you have to watch the video, go jerk off or something...FUCK OFF. =)
WannaBeLoris 2 weeks ago
@WannaBeLoris Hey asshole... this is America, I'm entitled to say whatever the fuck I wanna say. If you don't like it eat shit.
AZsportshut 2 weeks ago
@AZsportshut ahh...keyboard warriors...
WannaBeLoris 2 weeks ago
@WannaBeLoris And you're a dumbass.
AZsportshut 2 weeks ago
@AZsportshut <3
WannaBeLoris 2 weeks ago
@AZsportshut Yes, through your brilliantly ironic response you have showed him and us that you are far from a thug, and certainly by no means a punk-that's for sure.
spikeitfool1 2 weeks ago
@AZsportshut But they are in some respects. Soldiers preform a hard, dirty, and somewhat necessary job. Garbageman and fast food workers preform hard dirty and somewhat necessary jobs. How are they not similar in that regard? A solders job is alot harder and alot dirtier, and in rare cases, alot more necessary, but the comparison is still valid. He is saying is dont call someone a hero just because they are in the military. Sure it leads to heroic opportunities but its not the same
bmaseray 2 weeks ago
@bmaseray No, it isn't even close to the same. People in the military are putting their lives on the line, you simply can't make the same comparision. Fast food is not a necessary job and even alot less heroic, people can live without McDonalds. I've never seen a garbage man put in a situation where his life is a risk. Its people like this asshole that don't understand what is going on in the world, but still bad talks our troops and the freedom they defend. Freedom isn't free.
AZsportshut 2 weeks ago
@AZsportshut Um, Ok. I agree that fast food is not really a good comparison. But Garbage men do hard, dirty and necessary work. Right? Soldiers do hard, dirty and (arguably) necessary work. The only difference is the degree in which they are hard dirty and necessary.
And if you think our troupes are protecting our freedom, you have to wonder what they are doing way over on the other side of the world instead of over here. I fail to see how the wars overseas affect OUR freedom.
bmaseray 2 weeks ago
@bmaseray soldiers jobs are way more dangerous than garbagemen, and go months and years without getting to see their family and away from their homes, for the country
pizaz1001 2 weeks ago
@pizaz1001 Yup. Your right. But a garbageman's job is still moderately dangerous, its not unheard of for them to loose an hand in the trash compresser, The comparison still stands. A garbagemans job is hard, dangerous and necessary. So is a soldier. as i have said before the differs is in the degree in which the jobs are hard dangerous and necessary. THE COMPARISON STILL STANDS. And most people i know in the service are in it for the cash, the whole freedom thing is just a bonus.
bmaseray 1 week ago
@bmaseray no the comparison does not stand at all, and to say soldiers do it for the money is the most retarded thing ive ever heard, i know several ppl in the millitary, and none of them do it for the money they dont even get paid a lot, and garbagemen get to see their family every night
pizaz1001 1 week ago
@pizaz1001 ........ Dont you think a garbagemans job is hard dangerous and necessary?
and i guess we just know different people who go into the service. everyone i know joined because it was a good way to get into college.
bmaseray 1 week ago
@AZsportshut fuck america
BurningRage25 2 weeks ago
@BurningRage25 No fuck you.
AZsportshut 2 weeks ago
@AZsportshut He is 6'8" and 250 pounds. You're right he better watch out.
bchplse 1 week ago
but there are several other purposes that the military fulfills such as disaster relief, securing borders, cyber security, search and rescue, advising foreign military so that they can protect their own, space security, and many other things. I don't believe in forcing my values on other people and I believe legalizing drugs (not for personal use, but I think it makes sense fiscally. As long as there's a buyer, there's a market) and I consider myself a progressive and I support equality for
tommygun88 1 month ago
don't judge me or other service members and don't try to trivialize our sacrifices by calling us all thugs just because we're going to other countries when we're only carrying out the mission given to us. I think our military needs to be brought home and I'm glad that they're being brought home from Iraq and soon Afghanistan as well, but I'm sick of this whole demonizing of the military. I'm proud of what I do and the military isn't just designed to kill, granted that is the main mission,
tommygun88 1 month ago
@tommygun88
If you correct people who say your fighting for their freedoms, fine.
As you probably don't, you deserve the equally far from the truth claims that your just a thug.
Correct the lies that say you a hero if you don't want people saying the opposite.
If you accept people worshiping you, you get the demonetization too.
unassumption 3 weeks ago
military is for security. We need to protect our borders and our government and the people who try to earn a living and against all threats, both foreign and domestic. Those are things I swore to in the oath. I just don't like that he calls us all "paid thugs to kill for America". I think that's a disingenuous and a bit of a generalization. Granted, there are douche-bags in the military and we're not all honorable people and there are other dangerous but necessary jobs in America, but
tommygun88 1 month ago
I joined for several reasons. At the time I had joined, I was already skeptical about the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and I knew that we didn't really belong there but I was able to justify our current presence there by saying, "Well, we made the mess, so we should clean it up." I think we should take the responsibility for it so we should try to help rebuild the government we tore down. I agree with theamazingatheist about the whole "freedom" concept. One of the main reasons we need a
tommygun88 1 month ago
i think we need someone like TJ in germany he s really awesome though i dont always agree with him
MrGrompo 1 month ago
@MrGrompo
One nation at a time, Grompo. One nation at a time...
KofeIznasilovaniya 3 weeks ago
that fake sagan account doesn't exist any more
thetaintedsoul1 1 month ago
Drugs trap and kill people. I don't see anything wrong with making harmful things illegal.
DracoAquarian1 1 month ago
@DracoAquarian1 I do drugs, they're fun, I've been doing them for quite a time actually and I'm doing pretty good, some of them are legal, others not. But I'm not into the so called "hard-drugs" since I know they're pretty dangerous, and they are. But I still think they should be legal. People who do drugs and can not handle them or have the good sense to stay away from the harder drugs should not be considered criminals, but patients. F.e. Would you convict a morphine addict for trying to buy?
Lulzalutioners 1 month ago
@Lulzalutioners
I don't know about legal or illegal, but society should figure out a way to decrease the demand for drugs in general (legal and illegal). When you start to get older you realize that drugs take more from you than they give. That's the way it works. It's always been like that since the beginning of recorded history. There are accounts from Ancient Egypt of drug addicts. I bet you think you're unique when it comes to drugs ey ?
DracoAquarian1 1 month ago
@DracoAquarian1 I don't necessarily think society should figure out ways to decrease drug use, it obviously depends entirely on the drug but I think experimentation with our minds is something people should try if they feel so inclined. I think saying that all drugs take away more than they give is false, take for example alcohol which is a drug can give you fond memories and having taken away little. And no, I don't think I'm special at all, people like me are actually quite common.
Lulzalutioners 1 month ago
@DracoAquarian1 What part of "freedom" don't you understand ? Why don't we ban Macdonalds ? That's not good for you either.
What I put in my body is my own business. Well, it should be.
Xalimander 1 month ago
Watching five AmazingAtheist videos simultaneously: watch a minute of one video, pause; next video, pause; and so on... What happened to FakeSagan? I remember that guy...
Rarae192 1 month ago
@Rarae192 lolwut
TheEthanwashere 1 month ago
War is stupid. It solves nothing, and only leads to more conflict, which costs money. This is problematic for america, our economy is screwed up because of past problems, yet the government writes billion dollar checks like it's nothing, that we pay for! We should send peace treaties, not inexpensive checks!
YoungMoney4280 1 month ago
Fuck you!1off If you do drugs like P.C.P or L.S.D you should be thrown into jail(because you cant control your actions).Freedom speech zones suck;but at least we are not like Canada and Britain were you get arrested for speaking out.Fuck you the military is and has done more good.Then it has done bad.And one more thing fuck Bush.
sinner12887 1 month ago
@sinner12887 not sure if troll or stupid
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@noofatchiks I was high (I was on weed) when I wrote that.And yet I still more reasonable then T.J. was in this subject.P.S. JUdgeing by your name I'am guessing your a small dick douch bag.
sinner12887 1 month ago
@sinner12887 I'am?
drbg11 1 month ago
you are so stupid.... nuff said
TIGER34BIGT 1 month ago
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I was very wrong and blind. There really is a God. Atheists are amazing, yes. Amazingly blind. Thankyou, Jesus, you've saved me from Hell. I'm sorry for all the people that I helped send to Hell with my ignorance. :°(
AmazingAtheistst 1 month ago
You know, TJ, you talk about the United States military as some sort of gang (which I can largely agree with, since I serve in that gang), but you've only mentioned the Army in this video. You didn't exactly touch up on other branches like the Navy, Marines, etc. The only reason I even bring this up is b/c you brought up the army. Do you view all military members in the same light? If so, do reply back. I know this video was made a few years ago, but I hardly doubt your opinion has changed much.
cknell546 1 month ago
best speech ever i agree.
TheCackles68 2 months ago
When vietnam war veterans say they fight for our freedom, they sadly actually believe it. If out of nowhere all the most powerful countries came to invade america and turn it into a communist regime and war broke out, THEN the troops would be fighting for our freedom. I disagree with you when you say they are thugs, they're more like tools of politicians.
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AtheistAnonymous73 2 months ago
TJ on this your an ass. I agree with alot of your videos but I was in the Army and the soliders ARE NOT the problem its the orders that they can not disobey by the higher ups, not to say that there is no problem at all, but. They in large are wanting to help there country and are proud to serve. They want to protect our limited freedoms and borrowed rights but policy has gotten in the way since WW2. And that is directly do to this kind of speech towards soldiers and not the real problem.
Casanova050393 2 months ago
@Casanova050393 I'd like to make an entire rebuttal, but I'll just say the following: the kill team.
misjif2341 2 months ago
@misjif2341 Dont forget the Bradley Manning stuff.
penguinlord94 2 months ago
Fighting for America's freedom's........halfway across the world ROFL IF WE DON'T INVADE IRAN, WE'LL LOSE OUR VOTING RIGHTS!
MasterAdam100 2 months ago
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Isa 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! 5:21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
AL33355 2 months ago
These aren't soldiers, there warriors. Warriors attack and conquer, they prey on the weak. Soldiers defend and protect the innocent—usually from warriors."
Honorfull 2 months ago
@Honorfull Something's bothering Carth, perhaps you should speak with him about it.
TalesanYanto 2 months ago
@TalesanYanto ''Nah, Maybe everything will become more clear after we find the Star Map hidden here''
Honorfull 2 months ago
Im just curious what he thinks of PMC's it seems they are at least up front about it. They do it for cold hard cash.
Ubertastic 2 months ago
yeah, shouldn't talk about shit you never experienced.
oobaby85 2 months ago
TJ on this your an ass. I agree with alot of your videos but I was in the Army and the soliders ARE NOT the problem its the orders that they can not disobey by the higher ups, not to say that there is no problem at all, but. They in large are wanting to help there country and are proud to serve. They want to protect our limited freedoms and borrowed rights but policy has gotten in the way since WW2. And that is directly do to this kind of speech towards soldiers and not the real problem.
BigDwarren 2 months ago
@BigDwarren The only Order you need to Obey is the one of Freedom. Everyone can disobey order. It is only inpossible because you have deemed it so.
Honorfull 2 months ago
Well, you can't talk about Basic Combat Training. You obiviously haven't been through it. It didn't strip away my individual personality. I am no longer in the Army, but I am still the same person I was before I enlisted into it. I do enjoy your other videos though, and you do have the right to say this. So, go ahead and exercise your right.
SpiffyMcWiffleB 2 months ago
@SpiffyMcWiffleB I strongly agree with him,because we deserve more freedoms and the government-corporations are limiting it, but you guys get your oders from the very people who limit our freedoms, people deserve to control their own bodies, i don't do drugs because they are stupid but if someone wants to drink or smoke then why not allow them to experience any drug they want at their choice< tobaco companies wouldn't allow it.
Tethloach1 2 months ago
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I was fighting for a G.I. Bill and College Education.
whiteowl1415 2 months ago
The "drug" part was stupid, even though probably not meant seriously.
twooffour 2 months ago
You were too fat to get into the military, weren't you? Lol...poor baby.
jmeholland 2 months ago
@jmeholland military people are idiots. they think getting shot in the face is a good job to have. theres nothing heroic about losing half your face. it makes you even uglier than you already were. argue this tool. if you dont believe in what this GENIUS is saying then why are you on his page? giving him a view
htaylr13 2 months ago
@htaylr13
There is something heroic about it. They give up their lives so you can spew your bullshit.
Besides, war and fighting is very prominent in the evolutionary history of our species. It's bred into us. We are a group species that is violent towards other groups. Even your simple bashing of the military is only a manifestation of your instincts as a human, you are degrading another social group in a attempt to give you, and your group a higher social standing.
Casna101 2 months ago
@Casna101 big words doesnt make you smart. 99.9999999% of people on earth used to believe earth was flat and guess who won out the .00000001% who said no your wrong were actually write. guess whats gonna happen to christianity
htaylr13 2 months ago
@htaylr13
Big words? What big words did I use? Anyone with a basic understanding of anthropology could easily understand what I said.
Also, your incoherent rambling about the earth being flat and Christianity was completely irrelevant to the argument, considering I myself am obviously an atheist. I am very concerned for your reading comprehension skills, have you seen a trained professional? It is possible your symptoms could be reversed if treated soon.
Casna101 2 months ago
@Casna101 Violence is bred into humans but war in and of itself isnt.
War is a social and political construct that is based on violence.
Human create war and justify war.
You can have violence and killing without war per se.
MultiSmartass1 2 months ago
@jmeholland The military will take anybody, weight is not an issue. I know plenty of obese people in the military.
KingofTheMafia 2 months ago
@KingofTheMafia That's completely untrue lol
Razor6731 2 months ago
You make some interesting points. I do disagree with what you think the military is for, I think it's rather a deterrence of arms, brought about through necessity. P.S. I enjoy watching all your videos.
moromillas 3 months ago
"Is it any more honorable than the delivery man"
Well I guess this is arguable on both sides and comes down to subjective view honestly and everything TJ and I say is subjective.... But from personal experience, knowing what my grandfather went through in the Korean War, I'd have to take the contrary position and say yes it is more important, and I do see difficulty and sacrifice as a factor involved into how important a job is, because of how much less likely people are willing to do it.
FamineIsAwesome 3 months ago
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However, it's not the soldier's job to write legislation, and fight the government (physically). It's to FIGHT those that are a legitimate violent threats against us. That's our job as citizens, to vote, and in extreme cases of government tyranny take up arms and take back the government and only then can soldiers/marines/whatever fight (phsyically) against it....
FamineIsAwesome 3 months ago
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FamineIsAwesome 3 months ago
"Let's say you are fighting for my freedom and lets take that at face value"
When that quote is said, it's not meant to be taken literally. You wouldn't think someone saying it's raining cats and dogs actually means it, now would you? What it actually means, is they're fighting so fascists don't take away the many hundreds of thousands of freedoms you take for granite, not anarchy, however as a libertarian, I do agree with you on the drug and free to do to your body speech.
FamineIsAwesome 3 months ago
@FamineIsAwesome you don't have to invade other countries and establish bases all over the world and spend billions a year regulating these bases to protect american rights.
ColossusShade 3 months ago
@ColossusShade Wait, which bases are you talking about? Sure this may apply to some, but let's take that crazy fucker Kim Jong Ill, in North Korea or Saddam Hussein in Iraq for instance, one threatening to blow South Korea with nukes, and the middle eastern genocidal Hitler trying to make chemical weapons. I'm not saying how the government utilizes the military is perfect, I'm just defending the troops, and in many instances but not all this is correct and we do spend too much.
FamineIsAwesome 3 months ago
"No honor"
How so? Many people fight for the tradition, and the "stability" you mention. The way I see it those are very honorable causes, that benefits everyone, and helps keep your rights.. And not to mention 9/11 was caused by religious fascists, and our soldiers are fighting and killing the fuckers in Afghanistan. How can someone like you not find that honorable? What do you expect us to do, ask them to not do it again and hope they quit? Isn't that kind of like letting the bully win?
FamineIsAwesome 3 months ago
@FamineIsAwesome Is it any more honorable than the delivery man who brings the produce to a grocery store. He, in turn, is helping to feed the consumers of that store. The level of danger in your job does not change the necessity of it. And no, I am not sucking TJ's cock, he just holds the same opinion as me on the matter.
FollowerInZeus 3 months ago
"Soldiers have never fought for freedom"
This is complete bullshit too. Try WWII and Nazi Germany and Hitler which in another video TJ felt we used justified force so we wouldn't be slaughtered and have our freedoms taken away, what a hypocrite.
FamineIsAwesome 3 months ago
This guy is comparing soldiers/marines/airmen/sailors to garbage men, and fast food workers? Talk about some ignorant shit typical of a complete overfed fat fuck. Try being away from your family and the ones you love for months, and getting hit by an IED. I find it hilariously stupid to compare them.
FamineIsAwesome 3 months ago
I WANNA GET RAPED TO DEATH BY A RHINO AND BUTTER YO BISCUITS AND STICK MY HANDS ON THEM!
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israel did 911
it is false flag attack by jews israeli
jews control usa and israel is a jews terrorist state
lollaughsuspend 3 months ago
There isone glarring fault in your argumant T.J
the american soldiers are not fighting on U.S soil. the U.S army figts in forgin countries and it's actions dose not directly effects U.S freedomes.
the department of homeland security is the bodie that operates inside the U.S and have the power to affect U.S citizens.
LostInNumbers 3 months ago
So the military doesn't protect our freedoms because you don't have the freedom to expose yourself nude in public and fap to underage girls? And to address another point you made, garbage men/fast food workers don't get shot at and have to watch their best friends die and endure the atrocities of war and the hardships of life in the military, such as being away from friends and family for long periods of time, etc. (you know what I'm getting at). I love your other vids but don't bash our troops.
xXSgtWolfXx 3 months ago
@xXSgtWolfXx
They're not "our" troops. They're yours, I want nothing to do with them.
FLICKtheUSA 3 months ago
@FLICKtheUSA Okay then.
xXSgtWolfXx 3 months ago
@FLICKtheUSA You can have your opinion and I can have mine, nothing wrong with that.
xXSgtWolfXx 3 months ago
@xXSgtWolfXx
the only difference is I'm right. Heh..
FLICKtheUSA 3 months ago
@FLICKtheUSA I'll cut your head off and feed it to your family.
xXSgtWolfXx 3 months ago
@xXSgtWolfXx
LOL, thanks for proving you're one of America's rejects. Shouldn't you be raping some schoolgirls?
FLICKtheUSA 3 months ago
@FLICKtheUSA Yep, that's a great idea actually. It's one of my favorite hobbies.
xXSgtWolfXx 3 months ago
@xXSgtWolfXx
Well of course it is. How else would you get a piece of ass? Military men are too poor to hire call girls decent normal chicks tend to go after college grads with careers. :)
It's called class warfare.
FLICKtheUSA 3 months ago
@FLICKtheUSA That's why you're a pathetic nerd who jacks off 50 times a day in his mothers basement and I actually have a girlfriend and get pussy. Hehe. :)
xXSgtWolfXx 3 months ago
@xXSgtWolfXx
She is either really nasty, or has low self esteem. Either way, there's a lid for every pot...
Water seeks its own level.
FLICKtheUSA 3 months ago
I hate when people bash the military itself for the crimes of those who issue its orders
redcommander27 3 months ago
@redcommander27 Seriously? The military itself IS an armed and violent gang with the monopoly on violence in its territory. That doesn't strike you as something that should be bashed as evil and violent? If not, you've got some dangerous viewpoints...
andrewh817 3 months ago
@redc27
Each individual GI Joe and Jane ultimately decides what is right or wrong. The average one may be dumb but not enough to be oblivious to vice looking them in the FACE!! Truth is, they'll eat them orders UP so they can get that paycheck to buy their Xbox 360 and/or keep up on them Ford Expedition payments, if not relinquish half of it over to some female recruit to get some two-bit cheap pussy. So who ya trying to kid? Those of us that really know the score? I seriously DOUBT THAT!!!
SwarthySkinnedOne 3 months ago
@SwarthySkinnedOne
Whatever, its just stupid when people generalize and trash all the solider over government policy, look at history, the soldiers were never blamed for the wars unless they individually committed war crimes (such as killing civilians) or the unit, division or branch did
redcommander27 3 months ago
@red27
Alright. Grant it. The Captians and the Kings along with their cronies calls the shots. The soldier slaps on the bayonet and marches to it (whether he wanna or not). He don't have much say in matter. You may have been pondering US involvement in Vietnam in particular as a VERY prime instance. Over there he was sandbagged to fight the gooks. Upon his return he had to fight the hippies and other anti-war kooks. He got no hero's welcome, only a villian's damnation. Yeah, I hear ya..go on.
SwarthySkinnedOne 3 months ago
I could not agree more, TJ.
HugeEgoSorry1032 3 months ago
Don't blame the everyday soldier, blame the Generals and the corrupted gov't. the sling out their propaganda to children, propaganda saying that living and dying for your country is honorable. People like you that were able to disagree and question the evils are truly respectable. But not everyone can do that especially when their brainwashing is terrific. I commend you for seeking for the truth. But its not the normal everyday soldier to blame. they are doing what they were taught was right.
ramnarainy 3 months ago
@ramnarainy every man should think for themselfs whats right, then they would probably notice how they always talk about dying for their country , but never of killing for their country.
Mrmcroller 3 months ago
@ram
Err. Pardon the way I'll contradict you but...
In that case don't you EVER condemn those japs for what they did to the Chinese ("Massacre of Nanking" "Shanghai", etc.) and what the krouts did those Euopeans that didn't "fit in" (like killng 250 little gypsy children as guinea pigs in testing out the effectiveness of Cyclon-B) and the Russians". Don't you dare do so, because they were only doing what they were told was of the highest good and uninpeachable righteousness. YOU BETTER NOT!!!!
SwarthySkinnedOne 3 months ago
@SwarthySkinnedOne you have a damn good point there and I feel that some of those were just following orders and some just the evils of the individuals. But the deaths of gypsies and Russians to test out Zyklon-b were carried out by high ranking officials like Joseph Mengel. he did it willingly and probably didnt need orders to kill and test on so many.
ramnarainy 3 months ago
The US military largely exist for it's own sake, like a club. The boot camp ordeal is just some sort of crucible to let in those that pass and eject those that don't measure up 4 rewards of the good life. It's for people who want to make lots of money and be completely taken cared of who couldn't get this kind of security in civilian life. They drink, fornucate, commit adultry, buy new cars and trucks, electronic toys, enjoy fat pensions, etc. They give not a damn 'bout Patriotic values. Really.
SwarthySkinnedOne 3 months ago
@SS
Don't believe me? K. Think we need a recurrence of a WWII scenario for a simple demonstration, to show what will really manifest when the chips are down.Could todays boys and now girls in uniform stand up to a typical hard-bitten Nazi and Jap soldier in the trenches and on the ships? I woundn't count on it. These Axis soldiers would easily show just how flabby and inept our So-called US soldier of now really are. show what the Charles A. Granners and Lindsy Englands are truly made of.
SwarthySkinnedOne 3 months ago
@SwarthySkinnedOne
And BTW That "Saving Private Ryan" flick was just a load of bunk, and Childish propaganda. Why were the Germans portrayed as balding lanky gawky goons!?! That was an idiotic example of empty American bravado superiority nonsense. They didn't look that way in portrayal in war films and actuality in newsreels produced back in the WWII era. Not by a long shot. Why must we Americans be so infaturated by illusion and make-believe is something I'll never be made to understand.
SwarthySkinnedOne 3 months ago
@SwarthySkinnedOne As an American, I must say you hit it on the head! This country is fooled into thinking that it is a "free" society, when in fact it is quite the contrary. The public is controlled and manipulated by the wealthy and the media.
Celebrity and pop-culture are tools of mind-control. Our democracy is a no more than a sugar coated lie being manipulated by the real deal two-party system which boasts a collection of third party drones to sweeten the illusion.
MircelousGrimm 3 months ago
This man speaks the truth
94Cioppa 3 months ago
whats stupid about having a dangerous unconventional lifestyle?...i dont see the american lifestyle fun....
JavaSpitLava 3 months ago
@quarterexchange awaiting proof
Ieafs1319 3 months ago
I'm not going to go off at you but the military is there for a reason, but you do make very valid points
jfkconspiracy1 3 months ago
This fucking Atheist is amazing.
K684813 4 months ago
@quarterexchange You said vietnam made concentration camps for south vietnames and killed 3,000,000 cambodians. EVIDENCE!?
Ieafs1319 4 months ago
@Ieafs1319 The Cambodians made concentration camps and killed ca 300 000 people who they suspected of being loyal to Vietnam.
That muppet gave bullshit that resembled historical events a little bit and hoped that you would buy it.
marcus8374 4 months ago
@marcus8374 Evidence?
Do you also have the evidence of the cambodians you said they killed?
Ieafs1319 4 months ago
@Ieafs1319 I am not quarterexchange. Didn't you read my comment? The vietnamese didn't kill 3 million cambodians.
Pol pot, the anti-vietnamese communist leader in Cambodia killed ca 2 million cambodians in what we now know as the cambodian genocide. Ca 10 000 of them were Vietnamese and ca 300 000 of them were suspected Vitenam sympathizers.
Google "cambodian genocide genocide watch".
marcus8374 4 months ago
@marcus8374 sorry then atheism is wrong and what my initial intention was right. i'm not speakingi to you anyway im talking to quarter
Ieafs1319 3 months ago
TJ! I love your appearance. You look like a real swedish viking.
BHargoman 4 months ago
I AGREE !
BaneTrogdor 4 months ago
The idea is that they fight for increased freedom in other countries. By human nature complete freedom would create vast anarchy.
RPSM101 4 months ago
@RPSM101
In Iraq that fight to defend Israel. "Freedom" has nothing to do with it.
I hope there's a war with Iran, so 60,000+ US troops come back dead or completely maimed.
FLICKtheUSA 4 months ago
@FLICKtheUSA Are you trolling or just plain hateful by nature? I said the IDEA, i.e. the one they sell to the public is about freedom.
A lot of people who join the military is because they aren't happy or fulfilled (or they may be have been damaged by a bad break up or something) with their homelife and are good innocent people (as much as anybody else).
Human's take advantage of eachother on a regular basis all through history, why do you really hate the USA?
P.S. I'm British
RPSM101 4 months ago
@RPSM101
I must be hateful by nature.
I agree, people who join the military are indeed "damaged." They couldn't get into a college or even a third rate tech school; so other than bagging groceries there's the military.
As for hating the USA - I hate the fact this fucked up country values Israeli security over its own. How do the Jews repay protection and unconditional support? By stealing and selling secrets to the highest bidder.
FLICKtheUSA 4 months ago
@FLICKtheUSA The whole worlds fucked up, it's not just USA and Israel. If you disagree with the USA's policy's, how does that mean that good men deserve to die? (I know they're not all good but statistically speaking I'd say most are). That's just irrational. BTW, are you anti semetic at all or when you say jews are you just reffering to Israel? A lot of the soldiers may just be misinformed.
Though I do agree America is fucked up more than most major countries.
RPSM101 4 months ago
@RPSM101
It is anti-semitism that is justified. No other race gets away with their atrocities. Iraq wasn't a threat to the US. But AIPAC wanted Iraq taken care of. The Israeli "artists" in New York City who skipped the country after 9/11 - implies Israel knew about the attacks and did nothing.
If you take away Israeli policy, and Jewish bullshit, I wouldn't hate them at all. I didn't wake up one morning and decide to hate Jews.
FLICKtheUSA 4 months ago