Christians do NOT worship a pig. This video's meaning is extremely offensive. I know atheists have good reasons to disagree but calling us stupid and poking fun at Christians just goes to far.
Perhaps they were being figurative rather than literal. Given that same pig's long history of treating women as lesser human beings (the Bible's callousness toward rape is sickening), support of institutions like bigotry, slavery, etc., and a penchant for murder that was supposedly going on long before his religion even existed. Somebody who worships such a 'higher power' as a perfect being would have to be pretty damned stupid and deserving of ridicule... don't you agree?
I think that if two people disagree then they should just throw on boxing gloves and fight for ten rounds and the winner of fight wins the argument. Much simpler that way
I think that if two people disagree then they should just throw on boxing gloves and fight for ten rounds and the winner of fight wins the argument. Much simpler that way
I know many atheists who feel this way, but there must be a better way to get your point across without insulting anyone. Atheism is a valid point of view, though painful for Christians to encounter.
I have heard of people who died and came back to life, the time they died they saw heaven! my own grandfather heard his late brother calling his name the day before he died, that's enough for me :) I never read the bible!
Look up Ravi Zacharias, John Macarthur on youtube if you wish to learn.Debate Jesus personally by searching the Scriptures there they which speak of me.Jesus is the entire Word of God.Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life:no man cometh unto the Father,but by me. If ye had known me you should have known my Father also:and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.Jesus is the sinless lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.The resurrection my friend look there
This video is just baiting for arguments. They made a straw man christian in this. Everything in this is so presumptuous about Christianity. At 3:15 the argument goes even harder south. It would probably surprise the maker that Jesus doesn't recognize Catholics or Baptists or any sect of Christianity. Shocker, a Christian's main enemy isn't an atheist, it's himself as taught by the spirit of God directly.
@stringanime Wrong! Mary, who appears only to Catholics, is preparing the way for Jesus's return. Search "Marian Apparitions". Jesus's Church in this world is the Catholic Church. Matt 16:17-20 Jesus wasn't fooling when he said this. You really shouldn't choose to believe some of his words and not others. Also look up "incorruptable Saints". Once again, only in the Catholic Church.
@7117hpr7117 Matthew 16:17-20 says "17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 18And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."
I don't see Catholic there anywhere. Catholic Church will teach you to be a good Catholic, but a terrible Christian.
@stringanime Peter was the first pope. I don't really think Jesus cared what name they gave to the church. The final word in the Catholic religion is the Church/Pope. The final word in most protestant beliefs is the Bible. The Bible is great and true but not the final word. MANY miracles and communications from Heaven have taken place over the last 2000 years. God's interaction with man goes on and on and on. And BTW how does the Church teach me to be a bad Christian? I will listen.
@7117hpr7117 Peter was as Jesus stated, a rock of the church. Catholic church is a manifestation of the wolves that corrupted teaching of Jesus Christ. There are many manifestations of the corrupted teachings of Christ. Jesus indeed built his Church upon that rock, but the Catholic Church has nothing to do with Peter other than making the claim that he belongs to them. As if I were to draw a crappy drawing of Mickey Mouse, looks nothing like him, and then say I own Mickey Mouse. Ridiculous.
@stringanime I understand that over the past 2000 years that men in positions of power in the Church have made many mistakes. I understand that you believe that Jesus was just talking in general terms when He was talking to Peter about founding his Church. What Jesus really meant according to you was that anyone can start a church. In typical protestant fashion you leave out the second part of what Jesus said choosing on ly to hear what you want to hear.
@stringanime 19And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. So just who did Jesus give this power to? Just Peter? The Church Peter founded? Or any church founded by anyone? JESUS GAVE THIS POWER TO PETER AND HIS CHURCH. JESUS DOES NOT LIE!!
the "miracle" of the sun. are you fucking kidding me? science is the religion of atheism and science proves that the sun is a mass of burning gas and has gravitational force the keeps planets orbiting around it.
@ryanbozich3 I was talking about what was referred to as "The Miracle of the Sun". you can google it. In establishing yourself as an athiest it is logical to come to that conclusion after doing a little research. I have only talked to one athiest who didn't curse and name call. Why are most atiests so mean!!!???? I don't believe science is the religion of atheism. Science is the persuit of knowledge. I know many Christians who are scientists. There is no conflict.
@Lothos666 I don't think you mean they get funny, they get illogical. Just as most all of aethiests do. To many Christians, the Bible is the last word and they take everything it states as the inspired word of God. It is a hard position to defend. The Old Testament is mainly an historical record of the Jews as well as prophesies of the coming of Christ. These stories were written down by man so obviously not perfect. It doesn't make these events untrue. Jesus was the king of truth/logic.
@7117hpr7117 No I am repeating exactly what Jesus said. I am not changing a thing to what he said in order to trick people into believing I am a member of the church in which Jesus spoke of. It is the catholic Church that wants everyone to believe them and will say whatever it take to get people to believe them. I think we are done unless you are seeking to truly be convinced that the Catholic Church and all those who follow and do as they command, will burn in Hell.
@stringanime I think you did change the meaning. You said Jesus said Peter was "a" rock, as if there were other rocks as well. Jesus said Peter was "this rock" on which I will build my Church. Jesus is building the Church upon Peter. And he gave Peter and the Church powers. As far as the Catholic faith leading people to hellyou are not far off. The phophesies of Mary at Garagandal confirm this. But she said it was many Bishops and Priests, not the church itself. Mary required devotion...
@stringanime I think you did change the meaning. You said Jesus said Peter was "a" rock, as if there were other rocks as well. Jesus said Peter was "this rock" on which I will build my Church. Jesus is building the Church upon Peter. And he gave Peter and the Church powers. As far as the Catholic faith leading people to hellyou are not far off. The phophesies of Mary at Garagandal confirm this. But she said it was many Bishops and Priests, not the church itself. Mary required devotion...
@stringanime or I should say requested people to be more religious in the Catholic church. Mary in Garabandal prophesied about the scandals that have hurt the church so much recently. Many protestant religions believe theses Apparitions to be from the devil but a divided house can not stand. I get a feeling when I am writing to you that you have great faith. Maybe this is not an accidental meeting. Research the apparitions of Mary, Fatima is a good place to start.
@7117hpr7117 No. I'll paste what I wrote. Matthew 16:17-20 says "17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 18And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."
I don't see Catholic there anywhere. Catholic Church will teach you to be a good Catholic, but a terrible Christian.
@7117hpr7117 Catholicism will cause you to burn and be destroyed in the day of Judgement, it will not make you Christ-like, which is the Point of Faith.
@7117hpr7117 Our whole conversation has been about everything but what leads you to Jesus Christ. You haven't been contending for the Faith, you've only contended for a label. We might as well be arguing which is cooler, XBOX or Playstation. It's complete and utter Non-sense. If we had a common ground to start, it may work. But I believe you are programmed to just say "WRONG," followed by Catholicism Bull Shit.
@stringanime No that's not at all what our conversation has been about. It was about your statement that Jesus Christ sees no difference between churches. You make no sense, answer none of my questions, and then finally curse as the inner you realizes he is wrong and the outer you denies it and curses. You are food for athiests. You make Christianity look bad with your total lack of logic. I am open to any of your constuctive thoughts but you have none. Can you answer one of the questions?
@7117hpr7117 You are a little too quick to discredit me. Sorry I cursed, usually that is the only way to get people to stop their Sect-talking-points. Being Christian isn't about being a good Catholic or Lutheran or any other sect that fled the Catholic Church. It is about being as Righteous as Jesus Christ in this very life. We can talk about Jesus and what he says, but Only if you lay down your heavy burdens of Catholicism first. You Hurling Catholic teachings at me, is cursing at me.
@stringanime Heavy burdens? I agree. I am burdened by Catholicism. So was Jesus burdened by his cross. You too if you take up burdens and suffering can save souls from hell. You can be Christ-like and suffer yourself. NOW I'm hurling Catholic teachings at you, before I was just talking about the words of Jesus in the New Testament. Many Catholics don't follow the teachings. This is probably true with all faiths. Do you belong to a church?
@7117hpr7117 My hope is to strive for the one faith which leads to eternal life. The only church that ceases from all sin, never to have need of repentance, but rather moves onto perfection in order to know God as I am moved toward Him, becoming more like Him.
Hebrews 6:1
Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
@7117hpr7117 the Catholicism i'm aware of and God Willing practice do follow that, we are to be Christian, praise God, PLGB nLord Forgive be i wrong or offbase
You are as sure about Atheism as a Christian is about Christianity. Atheism is your religion. It is your belief system. You don't know what happens when you die yet you say you do. You "believe" you just die like the rocks. But you really don't know, none of us do. I would love to hear just once and intelligent arguement from an athiest. Explain Fatima and the Miracle of the Sun. If you could, you would be the first atheist to do so. Even the ones present when it happened.
@7117hpr7117 Explain the miracle of the sun? It's a burning mass of hot gas where Hydrogen nuclei fuse together to form larger nuclei, creating heat. It was first formed in the big bang? It's not some sort of "Miracle of God", it's just a star. Just a star.
Explain fatima? Why should I? There are millions, and millions, and millions of these "claims" of experiences. Are any of them real? Of course not.
I'm sorry, but it seems like I just answered your pathetic little argument.
@RedCroc12 I know the sun is just a star. I'm not syaing the sun is a miracle but what happened at Fatima in 1913. You should explain Fatima because it disproves atheism. There have not been millions of experiences like what happened at Fatima. That is irrational. Saying you are sorry and calling the aregument pathetic is not how a learned person who believes logic is paramount would have answered the question. Just about all athiest talk the way you do. No logic, lots of insults.
Of course nobody really knows anything about the existance of God for sure. Although an athiest says they are 100% sure that there is not and could not be a god. I forget sometimes when talking to an atheist that they know everything, just ask them and they'll tell you. Yep just as ridiculous as religion. Agnostics are the only ones who are being honest with themselves.
A moral code will be different from individual to individual. If there isnt absolute truth then there is no such thing as good or evil. It is then all just a matter of opinion which are like assholes, everyone has one and most are full of shit.
Ok well if christianity is stupid because of unaswerable questions about the omnipitance of God, then any belief system is just as stupid including atheism because none of it can be proven. Even if the God of the bible dosent exist, that dosent mean there isnt some kind of God out there. Also how can you say that the ten comandments are "good"? What does that even mean? The concept of good and evil is at the heart of any religion. How can you say anything is good without being subjective?
God was not created. Because God is immortal and forever, that means a reality exists without time. Therefore, God had to create time. Matter cannot exist without time. Therefore a reality exists where things are not matter or energy. You cannot tell me I am wrong because we do not have a complete understanding of other dimension's physics and what can and cannot exist in other realms.
The universe IS space. I consider matter AND space to be one. Because the universe (space) is made of matter.
@devindasahan100 You may say what God is and what God isin't, but even if someone had told you the truth of how everything has become, you still would not believe, because our society demands scientific proof for everything that sounds out of the ordinary. But some things are left to be untouched by human intellect alone.
You need to study the crusades. The Muslims encroached on Europe and Catholic Christians fought back then ended up taking it too far. Comparing American Protestants to the Crusaders is a mistake.
The Bible had been re-written many times by people of power since ancient times. Why blind faith in some words in a book that nobody knows WHO wrote it?
@messinwithvideos It sounds like it might be one of those things that seem normal but have disturbing upbringings, like Ring around the Rosie being about the black death.
@Joeyal123 In what way? Most atheists were Christians and have changed their entire world views. This close minded ness you refer too is actually a box called science and reality. Atheists give a healthy dose of skepticism.
I think it is hilarious how the atheistic criticism of Christianity involves fallacious reasoning, ridicule, and bare assertions. It is even worse considering the fact that atheism is intellectually bankrupt. There is no support for the claim that God does not exist, but atheists are certain that anything they say about religion is absolute truth.
@formerevolutionist There is also no proof that god exists. "You can claim anything is true if you say that there's no proof that it doesn't exist" How can we POSSIBLY disprove the existence of anything, and how can you possibly prove the existence of anything? Just because some book that was found in the Dead Sea Scrolls says so? I'm sorry, but I don't buy into anything without proof. Why should any of it matter anyway?
@garulia17 If you cannot support your own assertions, then why do you demand that we prove every little claim we make? If you want us to take you seriously, then you will have to do more than just take cheap shots at us. Back up the following claims:
1. There is no evidence for God.
2. God doesn't exist.
3. Jesus never existed.
4. The Bible is just a book of fairy tales.
5. Belief in God is the same as belief in fictional characters.
These are just a few. Care to support any of them logically?
@formerevolutionist I only ever said one of those things, which is the first one. There is no evidence. What's there to prove? Sorry, but the ball's on your side of the court with that one. It's your responsibility to give proof for the existence, not me. Secondly, the Bible isn't just a book of fairy tales (which it very well may be, again no proof either way) but it is made by man (which i will say until proven wrong in this effect). Fyi, according to History Jesus never claimed to be anything
@Keitaro2011 Do you even know how the burden of proof works? The onus is upon the person making the claim, whether it is positive or negative. Atheists make many claims, but they don't back them up well. They say anything to avoid the onus and then claim Christians always shift the burden of proof.
@formerevolutionist Atheism is based on belief. They simply reject a god. And the burden of proof rests on the person making an assertion not the person rejecting it. Atheism doesn't assert knowledge. It is true that some ATHEISTS will claim to know no god exists but atheism itself doesn't say that we know for a fact no god exists.
@darkchibicosmos you're fucking retarded. That's the equivalent of saying X exists and you need to prove he doesn't while I don't need to put forth evidence of X existing. They are saying no god exists because it's what the case was before religion changed the status quo. You don't need evidence to bring back the argument to what originated, or to be more precise, what happened before you brought up an argument without evidence which of course had no validity in the first place.
@darkchibicosmos Because if you could never prove it in the first place with evidence it can be discredited without evidence. Logic mother fucker, do you speak it?
@darkchibicosmos BASICALLY, what superfree is saying is that if you say this exists, it's not the doubters responsibility to DISPROVE, rather, the believer's responsibility to prove. Did I get that right? You're both saying the basic same thing, just in different ways.
I agree with everything you say, but calling people stupid for their beliefs is a little arrogant, don't you think? If this was a real conversation, that person was probably just raised to have his/her beliefs. How would you feel if a Christian came up to you and started force feeding you arguments about how you should believe in god?
The statement that Christians have started the Crusades is historicly erroneous.I find the Atheists are just as intolerants and dogmatic as any Abrahamic religions
While I agree with what the general point of the vid to a certian extent(fundamentalism is silly), I stll don't like the generalizing of saying Christianity is stupid. Because some extremists take it out of context (westboro baptist church teaparty..even the inquisition) I think this athisem is better and you're a dumbfuck if you don't agree attitude is disgustingly arrogant.
When you die, the energy from your body is put back into the cycle of energy. That is to say, your decomposing body becomes nourishment. Therefore, your energy is used for the creation or for the support of something else. In that way we are immortal and is a good way of showing reincarnation. You can't dispute me, because physics will back me up. :P The law of conservation makes it very clear. lol
@Uwohilatlitigv So the expression LOL was just a usage of energy that if not used there, then and in that manner, would have been used elsewhere in another form. I only meant that what you'd written made sense and that by following that logical argument (statement) with an LOL took away from your point. A lot like the smiley face I'm about to type.
Christians do NOT worship a pig. This video's meaning is extremely offensive. I know atheists have good reasons to disagree but calling us stupid and poking fun at Christians just goes to far.
vidgmrjoe 15 hours ago
@vidgmrjoe
Perhaps they were being figurative rather than literal. Given that same pig's long history of treating women as lesser human beings (the Bible's callousness toward rape is sickening), support of institutions like bigotry, slavery, etc., and a penchant for murder that was supposedly going on long before his religion even existed. Somebody who worships such a 'higher power' as a perfect being would have to be pretty damned stupid and deserving of ridicule... don't you agree?
Amberdextrix 9 hours ago
Their ''God jesus'' was a man and he died
but our God Allah is still alive and will always be :)
MrIslamista 1 week ago
christians worship a pig
m6pdjuif 2 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I think that if two people disagree then they should just throw on boxing gloves and fight for ten rounds and the winner of fight wins the argument. Much simpler that way
scheshire7 2 weeks ago
I think that if two people disagree then they should just throw on boxing gloves and fight for ten rounds and the winner of fight wins the argument. Much simpler that way
scheshire7 2 weeks ago
I know many atheists who feel this way, but there must be a better way to get your point across without insulting anyone. Atheism is a valid point of view, though painful for Christians to encounter.
Epona44 3 weeks ago
Christianity is not stupid, Lord Willing, God is not stupid, Lord Have Mercy be i or any wrong or offbase. Bible.cc usccb naB
lockinglugnut 3 weeks ago
@spencerphelpschannel Sry time to dis your fake religion. Maybe go try to grow some intelligence and give up on your imaginary friends. Sucker.
Lothos666 3 weeks ago
Dumb video
UFFORD4 3 weeks ago
True. Very entertaining and informative video.
rweerakkody4565 4 weeks ago
Almost everything in this video is refuted in Venomfangx's FAQs about God video.
JimmysApologetics 4 weeks ago
@JimmysApologetics Everything Venomfangx has ever thought could be refuted by a 3 year old.
Lothos666 3 weeks ago
@Lothos666 Ha. He is in college for a double major I think it is in Religion and philisposy.
JimmysApologetics 3 weeks ago
Flesh and blood is only for a while but souls are eternal. Make a decision today to turn to the Lord Jesus Christ, our Saviour. Read John 3
KingdomSeeker2012 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
If mankind is sinful knowing that the punishment is severe, what would mankind be like if the punishment was mild?
KingdomSeeker2012 1 month ago
I have heard of people who died and came back to life, the time they died they saw heaven! my own grandfather heard his late brother calling his name the day before he died, that's enough for me :) I never read the bible!
L4stLegalDrug 1 month ago
@L4stLegalDrug Cocaine is a hell of a drug too. I'm tending to not listen to those people either though.
Lothos666 3 weeks ago
@Lothos666 they didn't use drugs, go ahead and deny it!
L4stLegalDrug 3 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Look up Ravi Zacharias, John Macarthur on youtube if you wish to learn.Debate Jesus personally by searching the Scriptures there they which speak of me.Jesus is the entire Word of God.Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life:no man cometh unto the Father,but by me. If ye had known me you should have known my Father also:and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.Jesus is the sinless lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.The resurrection my friend look there
MatthewLPJesus 1 month ago
Now when I read these comments it sounds like a computer...
geokite 1 month ago
This video is just baiting for arguments. They made a straw man christian in this. Everything in this is so presumptuous about Christianity. At 3:15 the argument goes even harder south. It would probably surprise the maker that Jesus doesn't recognize Catholics or Baptists or any sect of Christianity. Shocker, a Christian's main enemy isn't an atheist, it's himself as taught by the spirit of God directly.
stringanime 1 month ago
@stringanime Wrong! Mary, who appears only to Catholics, is preparing the way for Jesus's return. Search "Marian Apparitions". Jesus's Church in this world is the Catholic Church. Matt 16:17-20 Jesus wasn't fooling when he said this. You really shouldn't choose to believe some of his words and not others. Also look up "incorruptable Saints". Once again, only in the Catholic Church.
7117hpr7117 3 weeks ago
@7117hpr7117 Matthew 16:17-20 says "17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 18And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."
I don't see Catholic there anywhere. Catholic Church will teach you to be a good Catholic, but a terrible Christian.
stringanime 3 weeks ago
@stringanime Peter was the first pope. I don't really think Jesus cared what name they gave to the church. The final word in the Catholic religion is the Church/Pope. The final word in most protestant beliefs is the Bible. The Bible is great and true but not the final word. MANY miracles and communications from Heaven have taken place over the last 2000 years. God's interaction with man goes on and on and on. And BTW how does the Church teach me to be a bad Christian? I will listen.
7117hpr7117 3 weeks ago
@7117hpr7117 Peter was as Jesus stated, a rock of the church. Catholic church is a manifestation of the wolves that corrupted teaching of Jesus Christ. There are many manifestations of the corrupted teachings of Christ. Jesus indeed built his Church upon that rock, but the Catholic Church has nothing to do with Peter other than making the claim that he belongs to them. As if I were to draw a crappy drawing of Mickey Mouse, looks nothing like him, and then say I own Mickey Mouse. Ridiculous.
stringanime 3 weeks ago
@stringanime I understand that over the past 2000 years that men in positions of power in the Church have made many mistakes. I understand that you believe that Jesus was just talking in general terms when He was talking to Peter about founding his Church. What Jesus really meant according to you was that anyone can start a church. In typical protestant fashion you leave out the second part of what Jesus said choosing on ly to hear what you want to hear.
7117hpr7117 3 weeks ago
@stringanime 19And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. So just who did Jesus give this power to? Just Peter? The Church Peter founded? Or any church founded by anyone? JESUS GAVE THIS POWER TO PETER AND HIS CHURCH. JESUS DOES NOT LIE!!
7117hpr7117 3 weeks ago
the "miracle" of the sun. are you fucking kidding me? science is the religion of atheism and science proves that the sun is a mass of burning gas and has gravitational force the keeps planets orbiting around it.
ryanbozich3 1 month ago
@ryanbozich3 please refrain from calling science a religion... it can be proven.
n49945 1 month ago
@ryanbozich3 I was talking about what was referred to as "The Miracle of the Sun". you can google it. In establishing yourself as an athiest it is logical to come to that conclusion after doing a little research. I have only talked to one athiest who didn't curse and name call. Why are most atiests so mean!!!???? I don't believe science is the religion of atheism. Science is the persuit of knowledge. I know many Christians who are scientists. There is no conflict.
7117hpr7117 1 month ago
@7117hpr7117 Because Christians get hilariously funny when backed into a corner with logic and fact. Oh my faith my faith lol.
Lothos666 3 weeks ago
@Lothos666 I don't think you mean they get funny, they get illogical. Just as most all of aethiests do. To many Christians, the Bible is the last word and they take everything it states as the inspired word of God. It is a hard position to defend. The Old Testament is mainly an historical record of the Jews as well as prophesies of the coming of Christ. These stories were written down by man so obviously not perfect. It doesn't make these events untrue. Jesus was the king of truth/logic.
7117hpr7117 3 weeks ago
@7117hpr7117 No I am repeating exactly what Jesus said. I am not changing a thing to what he said in order to trick people into believing I am a member of the church in which Jesus spoke of. It is the catholic Church that wants everyone to believe them and will say whatever it take to get people to believe them. I think we are done unless you are seeking to truly be convinced that the Catholic Church and all those who follow and do as they command, will burn in Hell.
stringanime 3 weeks ago
@stringanime I think you did change the meaning. You said Jesus said Peter was "a" rock, as if there were other rocks as well. Jesus said Peter was "this rock" on which I will build my Church. Jesus is building the Church upon Peter. And he gave Peter and the Church powers. As far as the Catholic faith leading people to hellyou are not far off. The phophesies of Mary at Garagandal confirm this. But she said it was many Bishops and Priests, not the church itself. Mary required devotion...
7117hpr7117 3 weeks ago
@stringanime I think you did change the meaning. You said Jesus said Peter was "a" rock, as if there were other rocks as well. Jesus said Peter was "this rock" on which I will build my Church. Jesus is building the Church upon Peter. And he gave Peter and the Church powers. As far as the Catholic faith leading people to hellyou are not far off. The phophesies of Mary at Garagandal confirm this. But she said it was many Bishops and Priests, not the church itself. Mary required devotion...
7117hpr7117 3 weeks ago
@stringanime or I should say requested people to be more religious in the Catholic church. Mary in Garabandal prophesied about the scandals that have hurt the church so much recently. Many protestant religions believe theses Apparitions to be from the devil but a divided house can not stand. I get a feeling when I am writing to you that you have great faith. Maybe this is not an accidental meeting. Research the apparitions of Mary, Fatima is a good place to start.
7117hpr7117 3 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@7117hpr7117 No. I'll paste what I wrote. Matthew 16:17-20 says "17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 18And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."
I don't see Catholic there anywhere. Catholic Church will teach you to be a good Catholic, but a terrible Christian.
End quote
stringanime 3 weeks ago
@7117hpr7117 Catholicism will cause you to burn and be destroyed in the day of Judgement, it will not make you Christ-like, which is the Point of Faith.
stringanime 3 weeks ago
@stringanime And you know this how?
7117hpr7117 3 weeks ago
@7117hpr7117 Our whole conversation has been about everything but what leads you to Jesus Christ. You haven't been contending for the Faith, you've only contended for a label. We might as well be arguing which is cooler, XBOX or Playstation. It's complete and utter Non-sense. If we had a common ground to start, it may work. But I believe you are programmed to just say "WRONG," followed by Catholicism Bull Shit.
stringanime 3 weeks ago
@stringanime No that's not at all what our conversation has been about. It was about your statement that Jesus Christ sees no difference between churches. You make no sense, answer none of my questions, and then finally curse as the inner you realizes he is wrong and the outer you denies it and curses. You are food for athiests. You make Christianity look bad with your total lack of logic. I am open to any of your constuctive thoughts but you have none. Can you answer one of the questions?
7117hpr7117 3 weeks ago
@7117hpr7117 You are a little too quick to discredit me. Sorry I cursed, usually that is the only way to get people to stop their Sect-talking-points. Being Christian isn't about being a good Catholic or Lutheran or any other sect that fled the Catholic Church. It is about being as Righteous as Jesus Christ in this very life. We can talk about Jesus and what he says, but Only if you lay down your heavy burdens of Catholicism first. You Hurling Catholic teachings at me, is cursing at me.
stringanime 3 weeks ago
@stringanime Heavy burdens? I agree. I am burdened by Catholicism. So was Jesus burdened by his cross. You too if you take up burdens and suffering can save souls from hell. You can be Christ-like and suffer yourself. NOW I'm hurling Catholic teachings at you, before I was just talking about the words of Jesus in the New Testament. Many Catholics don't follow the teachings. This is probably true with all faiths. Do you belong to a church?
7117hpr7117 3 weeks ago
@7117hpr7117 My hope is to strive for the one faith which leads to eternal life. The only church that ceases from all sin, never to have need of repentance, but rather moves onto perfection in order to know God as I am moved toward Him, becoming more like Him.
Hebrews 6:1
Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
stringanime 3 weeks ago
@7117hpr7117 the Catholicism i'm aware of and God Willing practice do follow that, we are to be Christian, praise God, PLGB nLord Forgive be i wrong or offbase
lockinglugnut 3 weeks ago
You are as sure about Atheism as a Christian is about Christianity. Atheism is your religion. It is your belief system. You don't know what happens when you die yet you say you do. You "believe" you just die like the rocks. But you really don't know, none of us do. I would love to hear just once and intelligent arguement from an athiest. Explain Fatima and the Miracle of the Sun. If you could, you would be the first atheist to do so. Even the ones present when it happened.
7117hpr7117 1 month ago
@7117hpr7117 Explain the miracle of the sun? It's a burning mass of hot gas where Hydrogen nuclei fuse together to form larger nuclei, creating heat. It was first formed in the big bang? It's not some sort of "Miracle of God", it's just a star. Just a star.
Explain fatima? Why should I? There are millions, and millions, and millions of these "claims" of experiences. Are any of them real? Of course not.
I'm sorry, but it seems like I just answered your pathetic little argument.
RedCroc12 1 month ago
@RedCroc12 I know the sun is just a star. I'm not syaing the sun is a miracle but what happened at Fatima in 1913. You should explain Fatima because it disproves atheism. There have not been millions of experiences like what happened at Fatima. That is irrational. Saying you are sorry and calling the aregument pathetic is not how a learned person who believes logic is paramount would have answered the question. Just about all athiest talk the way you do. No logic, lots of insults.
7117hpr7117 1 month ago
Of course nobody really knows anything about the existance of God for sure. Although an athiest says they are 100% sure that there is not and could not be a god. I forget sometimes when talking to an atheist that they know everything, just ask them and they'll tell you. Yep just as ridiculous as religion. Agnostics are the only ones who are being honest with themselves.
scheshire7 2 months ago
A moral code will be different from individual to individual. If there isnt absolute truth then there is no such thing as good or evil. It is then all just a matter of opinion which are like assholes, everyone has one and most are full of shit.
scheshire7 2 months ago
Ok well if christianity is stupid because of unaswerable questions about the omnipitance of God, then any belief system is just as stupid including atheism because none of it can be proven. Even if the God of the bible dosent exist, that dosent mean there isnt some kind of God out there. Also how can you say that the ten comandments are "good"? What does that even mean? The concept of good and evil is at the heart of any religion. How can you say anything is good without being subjective?
scheshire7 2 months ago
@scheshire7 Please just STFU, damn troll you have no life and you need to work on your essay writing skills :p
TheDarkHadoken 1 month ago
@scheshire7 Also, your third argument makes no sense. What are you trying to prove?
RedCroc12 1 month ago
I would like god to exist but based on current evidence it either doesnt exist or does not care about us.
Therefore not christian god.
C05597641 2 months ago
SPAGHETTI MONSTERRR
Atheism924 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Hilarious and so true!
samueln714 3 months ago
God was not created. Because God is immortal and forever, that means a reality exists without time. Therefore, God had to create time. Matter cannot exist without time. Therefore a reality exists where things are not matter or energy. You cannot tell me I am wrong because we do not have a complete understanding of other dimension's physics and what can and cannot exist in other realms.
The universe IS space. I consider matter AND space to be one. Because the universe (space) is made of matter.
SSTriplePilipinas 3 months ago
@SSTriplePilipinas An almighty God does not exist :) Thank you.
devindasahan100 1 month ago
@devindasahan100 You may say what God is and what God isin't, but even if someone had told you the truth of how everything has become, you still would not believe, because our society demands scientific proof for everything that sounds out of the ordinary. But some things are left to be untouched by human intellect alone.
SSTriplePilipinas 1 month ago
@SSTriplePilipinas An almighty God doesn't exist.
devindasahan100 1 month ago
@devindasahan100 You know of God, so there is no need for me or anyone else to explain how he exists.
SSTriplePilipinas 1 month ago
You need to study the crusades. The Muslims encroached on Europe and Catholic Christians fought back then ended up taking it too far. Comparing American Protestants to the Crusaders is a mistake.
Pathfinder767 3 months ago
The Bible had been re-written many times by people of power since ancient times. Why blind faith in some words in a book that nobody knows WHO wrote it?
Akaliko 3 months ago
hahahahahahahahaha
neuroglejak 3 months ago
XD
neuroglejak 3 months ago
y is the black bear the christian
messinwithvideos 4 months ago
@messinwithvideos It's not black, it's brown. Come to think of it why do we call brown humans black?
blackerthanebony100 3 months ago
u know wut? i hav no idea
messinwithvideos 3 months ago
@messinwithvideos It sounds like it might be one of those things that seem normal but have disturbing upbringings, like Ring around the Rosie being about the black death.
blackerthanebony100 3 months ago
@blackerthanebony100 XDDDD
messinwithvideos 3 months ago
Athiest can be just as close minded as the Crazy bible thumper
Joeyal123 4 months ago
@Joeyal123 In what way? Most atheists were Christians and have changed their entire world views. This close minded ness you refer too is actually a box called science and reality. Atheists give a healthy dose of skepticism.
joshrocks11 3 months ago
I think it is hilarious how the atheistic criticism of Christianity involves fallacious reasoning, ridicule, and bare assertions. It is even worse considering the fact that atheism is intellectually bankrupt. There is no support for the claim that God does not exist, but atheists are certain that anything they say about religion is absolute truth.
formerevolutionist 4 months ago
@formerevolutionist There is also no proof that god exists. "You can claim anything is true if you say that there's no proof that it doesn't exist" How can we POSSIBLY disprove the existence of anything, and how can you possibly prove the existence of anything? Just because some book that was found in the Dead Sea Scrolls says so? I'm sorry, but I don't buy into anything without proof. Why should any of it matter anyway?
garulia17 3 months ago
@garulia17 If you cannot support your own assertions, then why do you demand that we prove every little claim we make? If you want us to take you seriously, then you will have to do more than just take cheap shots at us. Back up the following claims:
1. There is no evidence for God.
2. God doesn't exist.
3. Jesus never existed.
4. The Bible is just a book of fairy tales.
5. Belief in God is the same as belief in fictional characters.
These are just a few. Care to support any of them logically?
formerevolutionist 3 months ago
@formerevolutionist I only ever said one of those things, which is the first one. There is no evidence. What's there to prove? Sorry, but the ball's on your side of the court with that one. It's your responsibility to give proof for the existence, not me. Secondly, the Bible isn't just a book of fairy tales (which it very well may be, again no proof either way) but it is made by man (which i will say until proven wrong in this effect). Fyi, according to History Jesus never claimed to be anything
garulia17 3 months ago
@formerevolutionist Why is it that you Christians so frequently shift the burden of proof?
Keitaro2011 2 months ago
@Keitaro2011 Do you even know how the burden of proof works? The onus is upon the person making the claim, whether it is positive or negative. Atheists make many claims, but they don't back them up well. They say anything to avoid the onus and then claim Christians always shift the burden of proof.
formerevolutionist 2 months ago
@formerevolutionist Atheism is based on belief. They simply reject a god. And the burden of proof rests on the person making an assertion not the person rejecting it. Atheism doesn't assert knowledge. It is true that some ATHEISTS will claim to know no god exists but atheism itself doesn't say that we know for a fact no god exists.
darkchibicosmos 2 months ago
@darkchibicosmos you're fucking retarded. That's the equivalent of saying X exists and you need to prove he doesn't while I don't need to put forth evidence of X existing. They are saying no god exists because it's what the case was before religion changed the status quo. You don't need evidence to bring back the argument to what originated, or to be more precise, what happened before you brought up an argument without evidence which of course had no validity in the first place.
SuperFREEXBOXLIVECOD 2 months ago
@darkchibicosmos Because if you could never prove it in the first place with evidence it can be discredited without evidence. Logic mother fucker, do you speak it?
SuperFREEXBOXLIVECOD 2 months ago
@SuperFREEXBOXLIVECOD Yes, unfortunately you don't as the world has just seen. Sadness for you.
darkchibicosmos 2 months ago
Comment removed
SuperFREEXBOXLIVECOD 2 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@darkchibicosmos your god is not real and you should feel bad for believing in him
SuperFREEXBOXLIVECOD 2 months ago
@darkchibicosmos BASICALLY, what superfree is saying is that if you say this exists, it's not the doubters responsibility to DISPROVE, rather, the believer's responsibility to prove. Did I get that right? You're both saying the basic same thing, just in different ways.
garulia17 2 months ago
I agree with everything you say, but calling people stupid for their beliefs is a little arrogant, don't you think? If this was a real conversation, that person was probably just raised to have his/her beliefs. How would you feel if a Christian came up to you and started force feeding you arguments about how you should believe in god?
voter96 5 months ago
Christians are really FUCKING stupid who the fuck came up with the idea that the world is going to end. Fuck Christianity full of dumb fucks.
epicduckeh6 5 months ago
The statement that Christians have started the Crusades is historicly erroneous.I find the Atheists are just as intolerants and dogmatic as any Abrahamic religions
lebotonton 5 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
they are both stupid
iulslion 5 months ago
While I agree with what the general point of the vid to a certian extent(fundamentalism is silly), I stll don't like the generalizing of saying Christianity is stupid. Because some extremists take it out of context (westboro baptist church teaparty..even the inquisition) I think this athisem is better and you're a dumbfuck if you don't agree attitude is disgustingly arrogant.
ccipollini1984 5 months ago
This video was really good makes a lot of sense
panducle69 6 months ago
When you die, the energy from your body is put back into the cycle of energy. That is to say, your decomposing body becomes nourishment. Therefore, your energy is used for the creation or for the support of something else. In that way we are immortal and is a good way of showing reincarnation. You can't dispute me, because physics will back me up. :P The law of conservation makes it very clear. lol
Uwohilatlitigv 6 months ago 2
@Uwohilatlitigv I was with you until the very end.
"LOL"?
;-)
daveluvNYC 5 months ago
@daveluvNYC Conservation of energy. :) It is neither lost nor destroyed, simply transferred. ^_^
Uwohilatlitigv 5 months ago
@Uwohilatlitigv So the expression LOL was just a usage of energy that if not used there, then and in that manner, would have been used elsewhere in another form. I only meant that what you'd written made sense and that by following that logical argument (statement) with an LOL took away from your point. A lot like the smiley face I'm about to type.
:-)
daveluvNYC 5 months ago
@daveluvNYC Ah, now I see what you mean. I just like to laugh a lot. :D That's the reason for my "lol" at the end. Laughing is good medicine. :)
Uwohilatlitigv 5 months ago
@Uwohilatlitigv Batteries have consciousness now.
joshrocks11 3 months ago
@joshrocks11 That's a whole other philosophical debate in which no-one truly agrees with each other. lol
Uwohilatlitigv 3 months ago
WOW we are still here...
Evoo1st 6 months ago
Comment removed
jordanbishop17 8 months ago
@jordanbishop17 Then you don"t have the first clue what atheism is...
Kighlor 7 months ago 2
@jordanbishop17 That's like saying not drinking is a habbit
theElectr0ne 6 months ago
exactly. Religion is for the weak-minded.
alx64uzumaki 9 months ago
oh that's hilarious!!
:D
060515657 11 months ago