@antoy0 Well so you are saying that you're from the rira.That just shows us how much respect you have for the fallen volunteers and their families,when you use this video comments section as a forum for hurling obscenities at members of two volunteers families just below a video depicting the funerals of two volunteers.By the way you say youre 40yrs old in your profile information.40s a fair age.you're no spring chicken yourself.....
An old Belfast saying...'For those who understand , no explantion is neccassary-for those who don't no explaination is possible., 'god bless Willie and Danny...
Danny is my 2nd cousin so we all do what we belive in cuz the brits are scum so all i can say is UP THE RA AND THESE MEN WAS FIGHTING FOR OUR COUNTRY AND WHAT KINDA SCUM PUTS 70 BULLET,S IN SOME 1 THE sas ARE YELLOW CUNTS
Yes he has been on loads of colour parties it was 99% likely that it was him that gave the branch the information that led to his 2 comrades getting ambushed and murdered by the sas.
I Just want to say that the country which is dominated by unionists is irish soil. They can move back to britain, back to the country their forfathers came from. They do not belong in Ireland if they dont want to be a part of it. Ireland unfree shall never be at peace.
The song Willie and Danny refers to the killing of Daniel Doherty and William Fleming, in the grounds of the Gransha Hospital in Derry on 6 December 1984
The song is called 'Willie and Danny' ...original and best version is by Pangur Bann (Irish meaning 'White Tiger') a band from DERRY...written and sung by DOUGIE BRESLIN also from DERRY...hope this helps...Slan.
see you rimski1000 id love too meet you 1 day in the street i wouldnt get bored danching all over your head id take some pleasure in doing 2 ya cockhead...
Every soldier is entitled to a dignified funeral, no matter what he believes in, the dead cant protect themselves, magic vid to brave and gallant men.
and so what by your logic the superpowers shouldnt have got involved becuase innocents might die by their hand even if they save more...innocents die in war but its a just cause that makes men fight them
and dont dare say both sides you do not know what you are takling about..... the brittish sluaghetred irish rebel brittish sluaghter sme more irish rebel even harder.... this is irish history dont dare try to make these freedom fighters out to be villians
They were villains. They murdered innocent people who had nothing to do with the conflict. If they were fighting the Crown they should have fought the British Army and the RUC. Instead they shot and bombed totally defenceless people.
defensless people... dont start abpoout defensless people wat about bloddy sunday? wat about the 4.5 million your goverment once first formed masacared they people they starved interned murdered?
I'm from the Republic of Ireland. My country did not massacre 4.5 million people.
Tim Parry, aged 13, and Jonathon Ball, aged 3, were killed by an IRA litter bin bomb in Warrington on March 20, 1993. Were they legitimate targets? Does the shooting of 14 protestors in 1972 justify killing innocent defenceless young boys?
Answer this question - do you believe that the votes of the majority of people north and south of this island count for nothing - voters who voted for the 1998 Good Friday Agreement and who are represented at the Dail and Stormont? Are the people of this island supposed to submit to self appointed freedom fighters at the barrel of a gun?
So that gives the IRA the right to shoot dead innocent Northern Irish Protestants and British civilians who are not involved in violence against Catholics? By that sick logic if a KKK member shoots a blackman that gives black vigilantes the right to shoot dead innocent white children?
did the pira drag a kid out and kill him? no the uvf did. ne children or innocents diied by accidents and yes it was wrong relli wrong to do so the pira and inla have apologised for any acidental military mistakes. have the brittish goverment done this for what they have done in iraq
When loyalist uvf gunmen wanted to kill a Catholic they simply drove to a Catholic estate and killed the first Catholic they got their hands on. Then the IRA would go to a Protestant estate and shoot dead the first Protestant who came along. It didn't matter whether it was a Protestant or Catholic man women or child, young or old. IRA bombing deliberately targetted innocent people. They were no accidents.
when have you heard of a pira attack like that please share becuas i cannot recall one.
the uvf/uda shankill butched openly admitted sectarian killers the pira allowed protestants in and i know some protestants how needed protestion fom the pira as the uvf/uda would try to kill them if they wer seen wif a catholic
I would suggest you read the book "Lost Lives" by David McKittrick. He has gathered together the stories behind each death in the Troubles. I have read it and had to put it down in tears. Completely innocent men women and children were mown down for 30 years by their self-appointed executioners in the UVF and the IRA. Read Martin Dillon's book about the Butchers and he points out mirror image murders by the IRA.
and what was it all for brittish sectarian opression which was der before the troubles and continues after it wont end till the brittish leave us alone ulster has a majority nationlist population . by ur logic no1 should ever rebel are you forgeting how the free state was born by a rebellion in which was ended by treachery and traitors
The Irish War of Independence and the Civil War achieved nothing that would have come about by peaceful democratic means anyway. The Free State established in 1922 was Home Rule and is only what the Irish Parliamentary Party wanted anyway before 1916. The majority of the Irish people voted for the Treaty in a referendum. Are you telling me the Irish people are traitors? Are Irish people going to be dictated to by bandits and gunmen?
what irish people are you talking about becuase from what i can see the republic of ireland is a puppet goverment of the usa and britian so i cant call your puppet goverment a true irish goverement for irish people. so are you saying the irish people (the vas majority) who supported the pira/inla arent irish?
The vast majority of the citizens of the republic of ireland vote for the political parties in the Dail (FF, FG, Labour, Greens, SF, Independents). So you don't recognise the votes of the majority of Irish people??? Do you expect me to take you seriously????
take me seriously?? how can i take you seriously when you know nothing (judging by you uneducated comments you have posted) of the conflict. "Sinn Fein is the largest nationalist party but only because the violence has stopped" yet 30'000 votes for bobby sands in the middle of the conflict wise up please
A milkman and his son, Eric and Desmond Guiney, died as a result of injuries sustained when their milk float crashed after being stoned by rioters in a predominantly nationalist area of north Belfast. The riot was sparked by the death of Bobby Sands. During the hunger strikes scores of innocents were murdered but of course everyone adored the so-called "martyrs."
you really are a scumbag."so called martyrs" ive tried to be decent but the way you have just adressed these young men who have died for ireland..i ask you now should we have just waited for another bloddy sunday? allow the atrocities against humanity to continue in the h-block? if so i know that you will burn in hell
The men who died in the hunger strikes were all convicted terrorists. I have no more sympathy for them no more than I have sympathy for suicide bombers. Fuck 'em.
terrorists? are they any more of a terrorist than the isrealalites who blow up full apartments with hundreds of innocents to kill the enemy....is this not exactly what the PIRA did or have you been fed too much garbage by the media to realise? as for the americans and brittish remember vietnam how many inncoents have they killed Veitnam? brits bloody sunday? they helped bomb the shit out of iraq? so what it seems to be is the rich and powerful can do what the poor and weak get prosucuted for
The Palestinians want to wipe Israel off the map and kill all the Jews.
Communists took over Vietnam after the US Congress cut funds to the Ford Administration and millions of boat people took to the seas while millions more in Vietnam and later in Cambodia were butchered.
Millions of Iraqis have voted for a democratic parliamentary government while Sunni, Shia and Al-Qaeda terrorists have blown up Iraqis as punishment for seeking freedom.
and the majority of irish people have voted for unioted ireland the geonicide of 4 million irish catholics did happen the opression and internment of 900 years did happen we have more reason to fight than anyone in the world has
There were several massacres by the IRA when they walked into bars asked who were the Prods and who were the Taigs separated both and then shot the Prods. The uvf did the reverse. Sectarian tit for tat. That was what the troubles were about. Ordinary decent people were at the mercy of terrorists.
sorry but you seem to be have been brought into the mindframe of a hollywood story writer.
that what you just said was fantasy uvf/uda gunmen bratty and elder spraying bullets into ormue road bookies killing many catholics FACT
soth belfast pira kill both bratty and elder in public and drive away shaking their fists out of the window of the car as the escape into local areas FACT
This is not hollywood. This is reality. Read "Lost Lives" by David McKittrick. IRA murder gang slaughtered innocent people in revenge for UVF massacres. It was sectarian bloodletting. You are in complete denial.
wen have the pira walked into a bar and separated two sides this is imposible firstly becuase it is separated already so you wouldnt have to separate people in bars the pira or uvf would never be so stupid to go to a mixed bar
Do you support planting bombs in British cities and blowing up innocent British people?
If so you can't complain when loyalists murder innocent Catholics can you? The slaughter and murder that both sides committed achieved nothing but continuing the cycle of hatred and misery. A United Ireland can only be achieved by agreement between Republicans and Unionists.
When British soldiers shot dead civilians or loyalist gangs shot dead innocent Catholics did that give the IRA the excuse to shoot innocent Protestants dead? The IRA were not freedom fighters. They wanted to force the Protestant majority against their will to join a united Ireland. The Loyalists wanted to force the Catholic minority out of the six counties. The whole 30 years was a useless waste.
What did ordinary British people have do with Northern Ireland anyway? If I was living in London in the 1970's what would I know or care about Northern Ireland. The IRA were fucking idiots. They garanteed that the British public would support hardline policies against republicanism by killing British civilians. Any chance to advance politically was smothered.
The majority of the people of Northern Ireland are Protestant Unionists who consider themselves British and are UK citizens. Are oyu suggesting that the government of a united 32 country republic rule them by force?
The only republic I want to live in is a republic that is democratic. Not a dictatorship.
so jus say donegal dosent want to be part of doengal but almost half does will you betray the other half jus so you can keep on the good side with the brits? if so u r truly a scumbag
Why do you think ever argument must be solved by shooting and bombing people? I never called you a scumbag so cut out the abuse ok. I'm speaking to you on the level so there is no need to get hot headed.
that answer is exactly what is wrong with the free-state they only see the half that want to leave i made it perfectly clear that there is another half..... i never called you a scumbag either i said if you are willing to betray us in fear of brittish
If the other half do not have a majority they have to accept the majority decision. If Fianna Fail do not get a majority and Fine Gael are in government instead I do not have to right to breakaway and start a war. Do you understand what a democracy is?
do you not understand what democracy is? do not insult my intelligence do you even know of the voting system here? it was tailor made to keep loyalist as majority no maatter what to be fully democratic place like south armaght etc should be part of the republic as they wishto be
Do you really think that only way to solve the problems of the 1960's was to resort armed conflict rather than the politicians sit down and talk. The Long War achieved nothing. It was only when John Hume and Fr Alex Reid persuaded Adams to stop fighting that political progress began. Thousands died for nothing. There could have been piece in 1973 only the IRA and Paisely on the other destroyed the peace.
and i agree with you the war counted for nothing and all these young men died for nothing....if we just stop now so we continue the fight in their name
Nobody wants to fight anymore except a tiny minority. You have no democratic mandate and no support from the wider Nationalist community and no support from the majority of the people of the Irish Republic. What do ye hope to achieve? The Unionists are not going to agree to a United Ireland by force. That is simple reality.
you have no idea what you are talking about i expected that from a free-stater the contonuity ira have had brilliant recruting campaigns recentley obviously it is not a tiny minority and if you have been in belfast or anywhere else you will see the slogans on the walls tell the story of mainstream nationalist opinion to sinn fein "sf/psni"
I am proud to be a citizen of the Republic of Ireland. I am proud to live in a free independent nation. A bunch of thugs and jumped up "revolutionaries" are going to dictate to the people of Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland over our dead bodies!
I am through talking to you. You obviously cannot accept reality. Good day.
I really wish persons knew the meaning of "terrorist". They may wish to check into "freedom fighters". When there is a rebellion against the so-called "rulers", those whom attempt to justify the oppressive brutality of the rulers (to those whom are ignorant to buy the john bullsh*te), call the uprisings against the brutal ones, the work of terrorists. This tricks only the highly ignorant. Also whomever said "the violence is over", is quite mistaken.
Giving out about the Hunger Strikers is really sad. God have pity on your soul. And if he does not, I won't lose any sleep. Your intentions appear to be awful. So pathetic are your remarks there RF86, that I am laughing. I am sure you are not as bad as you appear from that comment. (hopefully)
and i dont mean to get hot-headed this is a delicate topic and you seem to saying that all these young men died for nothing they died for a cause in which they belived in thats the best reason i can fink of. but regretabley there are people who were innocent who died
so what does? greed? power? money? maybe i pharsed my words wrong but they died for freedom that they believed in not racist like the nazi or religious basis like the al-qaeda
The IRA did not fight for freedom. The majority of the people in Northern Ireland voted for the SDLP, the Unionist parties and the Alliance Party. Sinn Fein did not have a single elected MP until the 1980's. They ignored the democratic will of the Irish people North and South and the peace protests. The Northern Bank robbery demonstrates that the IRA were only interested in greed, power and money.
To this comment i must laugh Sein fein have been the leading nationalist party since the 80s 30'000 votes for a ira prisoner and another became a td in your goverment how does this not show that it is the will of the irish people. prove to me that the northeren bank robery was done by the pira? (you use the term ira which are you talking about i prusume you are talking about the provisoonals becuase it is a common mistake from people who know literally nothing of the conflict to mix them up)
I didn't know Willie, I remember Ciaran his cousin my age, who died a few days earlier. I saw him as a teenager. What he did made me begin to think in a deeper way for the first time. Gradually as I learned more about Ireland and elsewhere I came out of an 'Imperial' worldview-powerful ideologies have a strong grip. I've worked for the oppressed around the world ever since. I hate violence but Ciaran's bravery and commitment all his life, first impressed me. 2 & 6 Dec 23 years RIP lads
An United Ireland can only happen when the Unionist Protestant majority in Northern Ireland agree to it. It cannot and will never achieved by bombing and shooting them into sumbission or attacking the security forces who they believe are their protectors.
I'm English,my Wife is Irish..we have 2 children..Amanda,and Colin...They have Irish Blood,and English Hearts...I've seen the Troubles from BOTH SIDES.Theirs too much Blood and Death...Lets Pray for one United Ireland....Peace Out....Jimi...
god bless you lads ,true irish men shot in cold blood.we will not forrget or forgive.tiocfaidh ar la
MrTaximan1234 1 month ago
the sas should only be veiwed through a rifle scope in ireland
ieyedmonster 2 months ago
another step lower for those SAS bastards!
c41um 6 months ago
kellie are you the slapper from rinmore who is living with a old fella its time yous shut the fuck up and move over the rira is still on the ground
antoy0 9 months ago
@antoy0 Well so you are saying that you're from the rira.That just shows us how much respect you have for the fallen volunteers and their families,when you use this video comments section as a forum for hurling obscenities at members of two volunteers families just below a video depicting the funerals of two volunteers.By the way you say youre 40yrs old in your profile information.40s a fair age.you're no spring chicken yourself.....
kelliefish2 9 months ago
datz a good vid der keillie danny wuz my uncle him an willam feliming too good soilders
UP THE RA
doherty860 1 year ago
i love this version can anyone tell me who sings it ?
TheKeelanBoi 1 year ago
@TheKeelanBoi Aye itsPangur Bán from their album ''DHSS'' Cover Ireland.A Derry Band in the 80s.hope that helps you cara.
kelliefish2 1 year ago
@kelliefish2 Thanks , good video btw
T,A,L
TheKeelanBoi 1 year ago
An old Belfast saying...'For those who understand , no explantion is neccassary-for those who don't no explaination is possible., 'god bless Willie and Danny...
frongoch79 2 years ago 8
Without us IRISH YOU'D PROBABLY, being a PROUD scots man, think your ENGLISH...!!!
IRAprovos 2 years ago 3
Great song, and about the fight for freedom
josparkes1 2 years ago 5
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nick41jupp 2 years ago
I'm with Fergiemac - Up the RA!!!!
Thanks for the book my g, I just started reading it.
OneLoveDesign 2 years ago 2
Danny is my 2nd cousin so we all do what we belive in cuz the brits are scum so all i can say is UP THE RA AND THESE MEN WAS FIGHTING FOR OUR COUNTRY AND WHAT KINDA SCUM PUTS 70 BULLET,S IN SOME 1 THE sas ARE YELLOW CUNTS
fergiecmac 2 years ago 17
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nick41jupp 2 years ago
@fergiecmac Oglaigh Na Heireann 2016=32
jclancy1916 7 months ago
You were a witness, or prepared to believe what you are told I spose.
josparkes1 2 years ago
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OneLoveDesign 2 years ago
70 bullets, savagery
josparkes1 2 years ago 4
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nick41jupp 2 years ago
Up The Real IRA!
derrydissident09 2 years ago 2
always rememberd slan anios mo charras
mollysgerry 2 years ago 5
up the continuity IRA, these men were provos
McDaid1916 2 years ago 2
two men who are an insperation.
up the continuity i.r.a
tiochfaidh ar la
MrKiki0808 2 years ago 4
2 true sons of ireland UP THE RA
MrDannybhoy 2 years ago 6
RIP, they lay down their lifes for us and died free men so we could live free men.
Tiocfaidh ar la.
yingyangsang1 2 years ago 2
Last I heard Gilmour wanted to come back to Free Derry and wanted McGuinness to promise him safety. Don't know what has become of him since.
davidsavage1981 2 years ago
The is sung by Pangur Ban, a group from Derry who has since been disbanded due to the lead singer becoming a Jehovah witness
McDaid1916 2 years ago
He became a Jehovah witness?Really?
partisan72 2 years ago
yes really lol...i went to school with his son. It was an integrated school lol
McDaid1916 2 years ago
who singing? great tune
FROGGYDOHERTY 2 years ago
theres been plenty of women and children murdered by the brit army ,ruc and unionist paramilitary groups.
kelliefish2 2 years ago 3
A hell of alot more! All brits in Ireland are tragets.
TAL!
RogueRover 2 years ago 21
your blind bigotry has been noted
fletchbhoy 3 years ago 2
did i just see raymond gilmour in the colour party...
theboyfromhere 3 years ago
Yes he has been on loads of colour parties it was 99% likely that it was him that gave the branch the information that led to his 2 comrades getting ambushed and murdered by the sas.
Then he carries them, fucking scumbag.
artybhoy 2 years ago 2
fuck the uda murederin cunts,,,,RIP WILLIE ND DANNY,TIOCFAIDH AR LA
updera1916 3 years ago 9
Respect the Orange on YOUR own Flag We will NEVER Surrender (Comment pending
1916supermc )
PeaceiHatetheword 3 years ago
R.I.P. ,,,,,FREEDOM FIGHTERS,,,,,
1916supermc 3 years ago 4
I Just want to say that the country which is dominated by unionists is irish soil. They can move back to britain, back to the country their forfathers came from. They do not belong in Ireland if they dont want to be a part of it. Ireland unfree shall never be at peace.
UE63 3 years ago 9
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nick41jupp 2 years ago
layin down their lives for us year after year,god bless willie and danny
bumchiner 3 years ago 5
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nick41jupp 2 years ago
up the ra rip willie and danny
walshyeire1916 3 years ago 7
up the ra lets get our land back.
quinnmagoo 3 years ago 3
i wish they scottish proddy bastards would leave n ireland
fuckthehuns1 3 years ago 3
RIP willy and danny,TIOCFAIDH AR LA
updera1916 3 years ago 2
Whats the name of the song?
Rip the men who have fallen in the struggle
UE63 3 years ago 2
willy and danny/say it is not so
not sure which one is the official title
theovdhurk 3 years ago 2
The song Willie and Danny refers to the killing of Daniel Doherty and William Fleming, in the grounds of the Gransha Hospital in Derry on 6 December 1984
chantdelouve 3 years ago
this song is "Willie And Danny "
Gary Og sing this song
chantdelouve 3 years ago
The song is called 'Willie and Danny' ...original and best version is by Pangur Bann (Irish meaning 'White Tiger') a band from DERRY...written and sung by DOUGIE BRESLIN also from DERRY...hope this helps...Slan.
IRAprovos 3 years ago
tiocfaidh ar la
supermc1916 3 years ago 4
Up the Gorbals!
yeooo
RIP Willie and Danny!
McDaid1916 3 years ago
see you rimski1000 id love too meet you 1 day in the street i wouldnt get bored danching all over your head id take some pleasure in doing 2 ya cockhead...
UPTHEPROVISIONALIRA 3 years ago 5
Every soldier is entitled to a dignified funeral, no matter what he believes in, the dead cant protect themselves, magic vid to brave and gallant men.
PILGARLIC42 3 years ago 5
I wish these orange, crown sucking bastards would learn a little Irish history before posting they're nonscence.
Tiocfaidh ár lá!
R.I.P
Joe40oz 3 years ago 4
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nick41jupp 2 years ago
IRA THE BEST SAS and BRITS scum
Tiocfaidh ar la
nolan999xxx 4 years ago 4
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nick41jupp 2 years ago
who sings this
jimtout 4 years ago
ITS A BAND FROM DERRY PANGUR BAN
bgraybhoy 4 years ago 2
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nick41jupp 2 years ago
FUCK THE BRITS AND THE SAS SCUM!
God bless willie and danny
Tiocfaidh ar la
One day ireland will be free!
celticfc185 4 years ago 3
a lot of great men lost their lives fighting the invaders.god bless them
hassannassaralah 4 years ago 2
whats the song on this video?
murfs2007 4 years ago
willie and danny
caoimhinmac 4 years ago 3
The People can-not be defeated.
poneil69 4 years ago
and so what by your logic the superpowers shouldnt have got involved becuase innocents might die by their hand even if they save more...innocents die in war but its a just cause that makes men fight them
boyle43 4 years ago
and dont dare say both sides you do not know what you are takling about..... the brittish sluaghetred irish rebel brittish sluaghter sme more irish rebel even harder.... this is irish history dont dare try to make these freedom fighters out to be villians
boyle43 4 years ago
They were villains. They murdered innocent people who had nothing to do with the conflict. If they were fighting the Crown they should have fought the British Army and the RUC. Instead they shot and bombed totally defenceless people.
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
defensless people... dont start abpoout defensless people wat about bloddy sunday? wat about the 4.5 million your goverment once first formed masacared they people they starved interned murdered?
boyle43 4 years ago
I'm from the Republic of Ireland. My country did not massacre 4.5 million people.
Tim Parry, aged 13, and Jonathon Ball, aged 3, were killed by an IRA litter bin bomb in Warrington on March 20, 1993. Were they legitimate targets? Does the shooting of 14 protestors in 1972 justify killing innocent defenceless young boys?
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
so ur a free state traitor might have guessed
ur not irish ur puppet british wat happened to youse ones you betrayed your people a couple of miles away
boyle43 4 years ago
You haven't read my posts have you?
Answer this question - do you believe that the votes of the majority of people north and south of this island count for nothing - voters who voted for the 1998 Good Friday Agreement and who are represented at the Dail and Stormont? Are the people of this island supposed to submit to self appointed freedom fighters at the barrel of a gun?
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
You believe that innocent men women and children are legitimate targets or don't you?
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
no i dont thats why we fight the brittish for shooting our innocent brothers sisters fathers cousins daughters and freinds
boyle43 4 years ago
So that gives the IRA the right to shoot dead innocent Northern Irish Protestants and British civilians who are not involved in violence against Catholics? By that sick logic if a KKK member shoots a blackman that gives black vigilantes the right to shoot dead innocent white children?
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
did the pira drag a kid out and kill him? no the uvf did. ne children or innocents diied by accidents and yes it was wrong relli wrong to do so the pira and inla have apologised for any acidental military mistakes. have the brittish goverment done this for what they have done in iraq
boyle43 4 years ago
When loyalist uvf gunmen wanted to kill a Catholic they simply drove to a Catholic estate and killed the first Catholic they got their hands on. Then the IRA would go to a Protestant estate and shoot dead the first Protestant who came along. It didn't matter whether it was a Protestant or Catholic man women or child, young or old. IRA bombing deliberately targetted innocent people. They were no accidents.
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
when have you heard of a pira attack like that please share becuas i cannot recall one.
the uvf/uda shankill butched openly admitted sectarian killers the pira allowed protestants in and i know some protestants how needed protestion fom the pira as the uvf/uda would try to kill them if they wer seen wif a catholic
boyle43 4 years ago
I would suggest you read the book "Lost Lives" by David McKittrick. He has gathered together the stories behind each death in the Troubles. I have read it and had to put it down in tears. Completely innocent men women and children were mown down for 30 years by their self-appointed executioners in the UVF and the IRA. Read Martin Dillon's book about the Butchers and he points out mirror image murders by the IRA.
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
and what was it all for brittish sectarian opression which was der before the troubles and continues after it wont end till the brittish leave us alone ulster has a majority nationlist population . by ur logic no1 should ever rebel are you forgeting how the free state was born by a rebellion in which was ended by treachery and traitors
boyle43 4 years ago
The Irish War of Independence and the Civil War achieved nothing that would have come about by peaceful democratic means anyway. The Free State established in 1922 was Home Rule and is only what the Irish Parliamentary Party wanted anyway before 1916. The majority of the Irish people voted for the Treaty in a referendum. Are you telling me the Irish people are traitors? Are Irish people going to be dictated to by bandits and gunmen?
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
what irish people are you talking about becuase from what i can see the republic of ireland is a puppet goverment of the usa and britian so i cant call your puppet goverment a true irish goverement for irish people. so are you saying the irish people (the vas majority) who supported the pira/inla arent irish?
boyle43 4 years ago
The vast majority of the citizens of the republic of ireland vote for the political parties in the Dail (FF, FG, Labour, Greens, SF, Independents). So you don't recognise the votes of the majority of Irish people??? Do you expect me to take you seriously????
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
take me seriously?? how can i take you seriously when you know nothing (judging by you uneducated comments you have posted) of the conflict. "Sinn Fein is the largest nationalist party but only because the violence has stopped" yet 30'000 votes for bobby sands in the middle of the conflict wise up please
boyle43 4 years ago
A milkman and his son, Eric and Desmond Guiney, died as a result of injuries sustained when their milk float crashed after being stoned by rioters in a predominantly nationalist area of north Belfast. The riot was sparked by the death of Bobby Sands. During the hunger strikes scores of innocents were murdered but of course everyone adored the so-called "martyrs."
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
you really are a scumbag."so called martyrs" ive tried to be decent but the way you have just adressed these young men who have died for ireland..i ask you now should we have just waited for another bloddy sunday? allow the atrocities against humanity to continue in the h-block? if so i know that you will burn in hell
boyle43 4 years ago
The men who died in the hunger strikes were all convicted terrorists. I have no more sympathy for them no more than I have sympathy for suicide bombers. Fuck 'em.
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
terrorists? are they any more of a terrorist than the isrealalites who blow up full apartments with hundreds of innocents to kill the enemy....is this not exactly what the PIRA did or have you been fed too much garbage by the media to realise? as for the americans and brittish remember vietnam how many inncoents have they killed Veitnam? brits bloody sunday? they helped bomb the shit out of iraq? so what it seems to be is the rich and powerful can do what the poor and weak get prosucuted for
boyle43 4 years ago
The Palestinians want to wipe Israel off the map and kill all the Jews.
Communists took over Vietnam after the US Congress cut funds to the Ford Administration and millions of boat people took to the seas while millions more in Vietnam and later in Cambodia were butchered.
Millions of Iraqis have voted for a democratic parliamentary government while Sunni, Shia and Al-Qaeda terrorists have blown up Iraqis as punishment for seeking freedom.
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
and the majority of irish people have voted for unioted ireland the geonicide of 4 million irish catholics did happen the opression and internment of 900 years did happen we have more reason to fight than anyone in the world has
boyle43 4 years ago
There were several massacres by the IRA when they walked into bars asked who were the Prods and who were the Taigs separated both and then shot the Prods. The uvf did the reverse. Sectarian tit for tat. That was what the troubles were about. Ordinary decent people were at the mercy of terrorists.
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
sorry but you seem to be have been brought into the mindframe of a hollywood story writer.
that what you just said was fantasy uvf/uda gunmen bratty and elder spraying bullets into ormue road bookies killing many catholics FACT
soth belfast pira kill both bratty and elder in public and drive away shaking their fists out of the window of the car as the escape into local areas FACT
boyle43 4 years ago
This is not hollywood. This is reality. Read "Lost Lives" by David McKittrick. IRA murder gang slaughtered innocent people in revenge for UVF massacres. It was sectarian bloodletting. You are in complete denial.
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
wen have the pira walked into a bar and separated two sides this is imposible firstly becuase it is separated already so you wouldnt have to separate people in bars the pira or uvf would never be so stupid to go to a mixed bar
boyle43 4 years ago
my names not paddy it is stephen.
and i think if you really want to write in proper english use capitals. im not thick im smarter than you obviously since you are a hun its the rules
boyle43 4 years ago
they wont die before the conto blows urs up
fuckin inbred brit cunt cant call ne1 thick u spastic hlf the world h8 yes remember the manchester bombings lol
boyle43 4 years ago
Do you support planting bombs in British cities and blowing up innocent British people?
If so you can't complain when loyalists murder innocent Catholics can you? The slaughter and murder that both sides committed achieved nothing but continuing the cycle of hatred and misery. A United Ireland can only be achieved by agreement between Republicans and Unionists.
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
no a united ireland will happen within the next 20 years if the peace process is used were nearly majority now.
do you support the killing of children with plastics bullets? the framing of inocent men becuase of their religion in brittish courts?
the brittish are never attacked by terrorist they are retaliated against by men who they have wronged eg us and thoese suicide bombers in iraq
boyle43 4 years ago
Of course I don't.
When British soldiers shot dead civilians or loyalist gangs shot dead innocent Catholics did that give the IRA the excuse to shoot innocent Protestants dead? The IRA were not freedom fighters. They wanted to force the Protestant majority against their will to join a united Ireland. The Loyalists wanted to force the Catholic minority out of the six counties. The whole 30 years was a useless waste.
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
What did ordinary British people have do with Northern Ireland anyway? If I was living in London in the 1970's what would I know or care about Northern Ireland. The IRA were fucking idiots. They garanteed that the British public would support hardline policies against republicanism by killing British civilians. Any chance to advance politically was smothered.
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
we are not nor have we ever been the minority
boyle43 4 years ago
The majority of the people of Northern Ireland are Protestant Unionists who consider themselves British and are UK citizens. Are oyu suggesting that the government of a united 32 country republic rule them by force?
The only republic I want to live in is a republic that is democratic. Not a dictatorship.
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
so jus say donegal dosent want to be part of doengal but almost half does will you betray the other half jus so you can keep on the good side with the brits? if so u r truly a scumbag
boyle43 4 years ago
sorry donegal dosent want do be part of republic of ireland (free state/traitors/brit licks/british in green)
boyle43 4 years ago
If Donegal people wanted to have their own Las Vegas in the hills of Donegal what do I care? Am I going to shoot people dead?
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
Why do you think ever argument must be solved by shooting and bombing people? I never called you a scumbag so cut out the abuse ok. I'm speaking to you on the level so there is no need to get hot headed.
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
that answer is exactly what is wrong with the free-state they only see the half that want to leave i made it perfectly clear that there is another half..... i never called you a scumbag either i said if you are willing to betray us in fear of brittish
you are a scumbag
boyle43 4 years ago
If the other half do not have a majority they have to accept the majority decision. If Fianna Fail do not get a majority and Fine Gael are in government instead I do not have to right to breakaway and start a war. Do you understand what a democracy is?
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
do you not understand what democracy is? do not insult my intelligence do you even know of the voting system here? it was tailor made to keep loyalist as majority no maatter what to be fully democratic place like south armaght etc should be part of the republic as they wishto be
boyle43 4 years ago
Do you really think that only way to solve the problems of the 1960's was to resort armed conflict rather than the politicians sit down and talk. The Long War achieved nothing. It was only when John Hume and Fr Alex Reid persuaded Adams to stop fighting that political progress began. Thousands died for nothing. There could have been piece in 1973 only the IRA and Paisely on the other destroyed the peace.
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
it acheived a equal society almost..
and i agree with you the war counted for nothing and all these young men died for nothing....if we just stop now so we continue the fight in their name
boyle43 4 years ago
Nobody wants to fight anymore except a tiny minority. You have no democratic mandate and no support from the wider Nationalist community and no support from the majority of the people of the Irish Republic. What do ye hope to achieve? The Unionists are not going to agree to a United Ireland by force. That is simple reality.
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
you have no idea what you are talking about i expected that from a free-stater the contonuity ira have had brilliant recruting campaigns recentley obviously it is not a tiny minority and if you have been in belfast or anywhere else you will see the slogans on the walls tell the story of mainstream nationalist opinion to sinn fein "sf/psni"
boyle43 4 years ago
I am proud to be a citizen of the Republic of Ireland. I am proud to live in a free independent nation. A bunch of thugs and jumped up "revolutionaries" are going to dictate to the people of Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland over our dead bodies!
I am through talking to you. You obviously cannot accept reality. Good day.
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
I really wish persons knew the meaning of "terrorist". They may wish to check into "freedom fighters". When there is a rebellion against the so-called "rulers", those whom attempt to justify the oppressive brutality of the rulers (to those whom are ignorant to buy the john bullsh*te), call the uprisings against the brutal ones, the work of terrorists. This tricks only the highly ignorant. Also whomever said "the violence is over", is quite mistaken.
berryjewell 4 years ago
Giving out about the Hunger Strikers is really sad. God have pity on your soul. And if he does not, I won't lose any sleep. Your intentions appear to be awful. So pathetic are your remarks there RF86, that I am laughing. I am sure you are not as bad as you appear from that comment. (hopefully)
berryjewell 4 years ago
and i dont mean to get hot-headed this is a delicate topic and you seem to saying that all these young men died for nothing they died for a cause in which they belived in thats the best reason i can fink of. but regretabley there are people who were innocent who died
boyle43 4 years ago
The soldiers of the Nazi Waffen SS died for what they believed in.
Al-Qaeda terrorists on 9/11 died for what they believed.
IRA terrorists died for what they believed in.
That does not justify the murder and slaughter they committed.
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
so what does? greed? power? money? maybe i pharsed my words wrong but they died for freedom that they believed in not racist like the nazi or religious basis like the al-qaeda
boyle43 4 years ago
The IRA did not fight for freedom. The majority of the people in Northern Ireland voted for the SDLP, the Unionist parties and the Alliance Party. Sinn Fein did not have a single elected MP until the 1980's. They ignored the democratic will of the Irish people North and South and the peace protests. The Northern Bank robbery demonstrates that the IRA were only interested in greed, power and money.
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
To this comment i must laugh Sein fein have been the leading nationalist party since the 80s 30'000 votes for a ira prisoner and another became a td in your goverment how does this not show that it is the will of the irish people. prove to me that the northeren bank robery was done by the pira? (you use the term ira which are you talking about i prusume you are talking about the provisoonals becuase it is a common mistake from people who know literally nothing of the conflict to mix them up)
boyle43 4 years ago
I just said that until the 1980's there was not a single Sinn Fein MP. Can't you read?
Today Sinn Fein is the largest nationalist party but only because the violence has stopped. If the war started again Sinn Fein would lose support.
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
for 2 real child killers to be gone wed hve to go 2 iraq wer them sas bastards r still der..... up the dissidents fuck the peace process
boyle43 4 years ago
god bless oglaigh willie fleming and oglaigh danny doherty. erin go brach
meekys1988 4 years ago
Dude,are you having your Period??
DOWDLE 4 years ago
A really intelligent and educated remark DUDE
TrueBlue1912 4 years ago
As opposed to your comment?
markess1981 4 years ago
I didn't know Willie, I remember Ciaran his cousin my age, who died a few days earlier. I saw him as a teenager. What he did made me begin to think in a deeper way for the first time. Gradually as I learned more about Ireland and elsewhere I came out of an 'Imperial' worldview-powerful ideologies have a strong grip. I've worked for the oppressed around the world ever since. I hate violence but Ciaran's bravery and commitment all his life, first impressed me. 2 & 6 Dec 23 years RIP lads
Marieselvak 4 years ago
great song and video, d bravest of d brave.R.I.P.
coolcork 4 years ago 2
mi daddy knew willey .... brilliant
craicaddict07 4 years ago
R.I.P. all those who 'lay down their lives for us year after year'
Gary Og also does a savage version of this tune, available on utube
michelle1688 4 years ago
Up The Ra...Ireland will be United And Free Again!!!!!
Damos2005 4 years ago
An United Ireland can only happen when the Unionist Protestant majority in Northern Ireland agree to it. It cannot and will never achieved by bombing and shooting them into sumbission or attacking the security forces who they believe are their protectors.
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
I'm English,my Wife is Irish..we have 2 children..Amanda,and Colin...They have Irish Blood,and English Hearts...I've seen the Troubles from BOTH SIDES.Theirs too much Blood and Death...Lets Pray for one United Ireland....Peace Out....Jimi...
DOWDLE 4 years ago 2
Don't fuckin think so ya turncoat bastard
TrueBlue1912 4 years ago
Two brave volunteers of Ireland R.I.P.
Cluzio 4 years ago 3
What an excellent video.
markess1981 4 years ago
Brilliant video and the song by Pangur Ban does them proud.God Bless Willie and Danny,never forgotten.
COCOSHAG 4 years ago
magic
joepne 4 years ago
brilliant! Tiocfaidh ar la!
provo69 4 years ago
A1 video!
truerepublican 4 years ago
first class video and excellent song.
CZECHBHOY 4 years ago