there is no proof that anything exists.. we don't know if anything is truth, what is reality? life could be a dream. if you don't beleive that god exists because you can't see him.. then prove that wind exists.. show it to me.
@TheDarrenQ Hey you know what that's fine with me. I would suggest researching on the issues of Christianity, Atheistism, and all that. I will say however that the Bible has changed my life, but think it through take a leap of faith, and research on these issues.
@stoffy15 I like religious people like you. You're encouraging someone to investigate for themselves instead of making threats of eternal damnation. If all religious people were like you, I'd have no problem with it.
@JamesHLanier Yeah I know, I don't like it when people try to force down there religion (including Christians) on peoples throats. I'm only here to be a light, an encourager, and to show people what Jesus did. I'm not the person that converts people to Christianity that's God's job, but I can at least tell them about the Bible. The other way around I don't like what Richard Dawkins has done, he's polluted the truth of Christianity, and trying to force his cause down to the people.
@JamesHLanier You've got a point there, but that's what I'm seeing. Yes I know of the Crusades, and I believe what those "Christians" did was wrong. I can brutally be honest to say the exact same thing about secularism, for example the Nazi's, and the Soviet Union (otherwise Communism). I can go further back even, but that would take too long. So I agree that Christians have a black mark in there history, but secularism does as well. That only means that we're not perfect.
@stoffy15 It was the communism that drove Stalin, not secularism. Also, Hitler used Christianity as a recruitment tool. Secularism has no black marks on history because the terrible things Stalin and the other communists and fascists did weren't done because of secularism. It was because of a lack of morals, not a lack of religion. Hitler was vegetarian, but you certainly don't see vegetarians as evil. They're two things independent of one another. You're right though, we're not perfect.
@JamesHLanier I will agree/but disagree on this issue, but for right now I'm going to research on this further if I'm right or not. Either way, thanks for not being a jerk like the others on here.
@JamesHLanier However the only thing I can say is Hitler did use "Christianity" as his recruitment tool, but that's not the true Christianity that I believe in. Both ways Stalin and Hitler were both evil, so lets settle with that.
Religion is the one thing that people cling to, despite the lack of evidence. It's the only thing in the world where you can use the argument "well you can't prove that it's not real"... NO SHIT we can't prove it's not real because god is invisible and "exists" in a world that defies space and time. Completely defies all logic, yet so many religious nutjobs will dedicate their lives to it.
@sam15mohsen- thanks for the advice. It has in a way resolved itself, by that I mean my parents don't except what I've told them and still believe I'm a Christian. I love them to death but it's frustrating knowing that my thoughts and types of questioning have been and are still being limited by what I was born into. I can't ask a legitimate question without being scolded. I'm just soo... Frustrated.
@Massy012 My first impression of you was "typical christian getting angry because someone was not believing in what you do, just like the dark age"... I'm not here to try and convince there is no god, because there is no point in trying, I'm just curious to why your angry at him, if you don't want to be angry don't watch Richard Dawkins talk about "The truth"...
@LaserLips2 Nah, maybe I stated my thought's wrong. I'm not really angry he doesn't believe in God because then frankly I'd be angry at everyone and obviously that wouldn't be good. However I just found this annoying when he said evolution is the truth. I'm not seeking an argument here, just venting my thoughts.
Richard Dawkins is just 1 of 7 Billion, he is entitled to his opinion, as is every other person on the planet. His opinion is no more valuable than any other persons opinion. He has no more evidence for his theory than does a Chrsitain about God. Its all about faith & belief. If he believes in Darwinian theory of evolution, then its His choice.
The big difference is that Christians have a purpose to life before and after death, but an Evolutionists life is utterly pointless even before death:)
2) No, not everyones beliefs are equal. A doctor does not have equal standing to a non-doctor on matters of medicine. Someone who studies biology does not have equal standing as a non-biologist on matters of biology.
3) He has much more evidence for his theory than the religious do for their faith. There is no way to show the existance of any gods or more importantly that gods opinion on morality.
@SeanACampbell Yes oncology is a wonderful example of fine medical practise. Despite the system of Surgery, Radiation, and Chemotherapy, the cure rate for advanced cancers has barely changed over the last 50 years. So you can give an oncologists opinion more weight if you want, but it doesnt mean that he is entitled to more weight for his opinion. There is no evidence for Evolution, there is only a theoretical application of the evidence to suit his opinion.
Except of course for observed adaptation and speciation, as well as the nested hierarchies of biology, and the matching diverging progressions of traits in palaeontology, the numerous morphological intermediates in the fossil record, numerous atavisms, ERV distribution patterns, human chromosome #2, and so on.
@delawarecop "Yes oncology is a wonderful example of fine medical practise. Despite the system of Surgery, Radiation, and Chemotherapy, the cure rate for advanced cancers has barely changed over the last 50 years" That has no relevance to whether a doctor better understands medicine than a non-doctor. And please cite your source on cancer cure rate.
"There is no evidence for Evolution, there is only a theoretical application of the evidence to suit his opinion." You are factually in error.
Who preach that profilactics are evil, that condoms increase the chance of getting aids, and who proscribe abstinence knowing that people *will* have sex, and that because of their preaching, these people will have *unsafe* sex. You were saying?
@delawarecop Peoples opinions are irrelevant unless they are based on evidence. There is plenty of evidence for evolution, there is no evidence one way or the other for the existence or non existence of a god or gods so it is necessary to suspend judgement until it is possible to test gods existence or non existence.
@delawarecop With regards to matters of purpose. Fundamentally and most importantly, there is no reason to assume that the universe owes your life any purpose at all. Nevertheless, I think he considers his purpose in life to learn about the world and educate others.
Christians no doubt subscribe to the idea that their purpose is to advise others what they happen to believe about the universe. That's fine, but it is wrong to say that no one can have a purpose in their life without religion.
@SeanACampbell I can say for certain that a life without God is completely futile - particularly for people like Dawkins. He will die and become maggot fodder and all his words and efforts have been for nothing. His accumulation of knowledge has no purpose, no fullfillment, no reason to exist to begin with - unless he intends to Evolve back into an ape and go join his ancestoral relatives whilst he is still alive. Perhaps he will do well to teach them the theory of Evolution:)
@delawarecop "a life without God is completely futile" that is your opinion and is frankly irrelevant.
"He will die and become maggot fodder and all his words and efforts have been for nothing " Cite your source.
"His accumulation of knowledge has no purpose, no fullfillment, no reason to exist to begin with" Again, the universe does not owe you a purpose. You can make a purpose for yourself.
"unless he intends to Evolve back into an ape" Humans are apes under the current definition.
Man stood upright, he looked around him...looking up, down, looking into the distant horizon & wondering. Wonderment. Imagination. Gods were born in the imagination of man...and so stories evolved, from these stories evolved myths, from these myths evolved religion.
@weefeatures - Not a handshake burn. If you notice, Richard Dawkins was not facing the interviewer when he initially stuck out his hand and was not aware that a hand shake was offered.
I told my devoted Christian parents that I was an Agnostic a few days ago. They yelled at me and accused me of being a devil worshipper. Needless to say, I was shocked by this completely ridiculous accusation. I am still standing for what I believe in though.
@pinktallgirl94 I think I have to apologize to you. Most true Bible believing Christians don't act like this, believe me when I say this. Jesus Christ told us to love sinner, which includes Christians and non-Christians. I'm not here to convert you to Christianity, but to show you God's love like what Jesus showed me in his Word.
@stoffy15 jesus was a great man like buddha to deny it wud b dumb but the god as in the old testament god can go fuck himself hes the resone people hate christians an rightly so if thay follow that homophobic racist sexist thank jesus hes not real
@kingpharaohtsar I only got one question... have your read the old testament? Because that's not the God I know. Yes I know that God can be harsh, but that's out of his justice. And I'm not sorry for his justice, He knows what he's doing. Also if Jesus was such a good man then why did the Pharisees hate him? Why did the crowds love for one moment and wanted killed later on? I know why because he was the Son of God. You cannot just say he was just a good man, he's more then that.
@kingpharaohtsar First of all, I don't even understand what your saying.. Are you saying that Jesus isn't real at all? lol wow where has this world heading toward. If your saying that Jesus isn't real then that's full of arrogance, there are plenty of evidence for Jesus. First of course the Bible (which isn't fiction look it up), and look at the history books for him. And second of all Job praised God at the end of his trial. Read Job the Devil and God are not one person.
@stoffy15 iv read the bible i was rised celtic christian its 1 of the oldist christianitys on earth its never changed so iv read jobe killing sum1s family isnt love that god is a dick jesus however is a grand fella fall of love an none of the hate of the first asshole [god] is the resone people hate christians
@kingpharaohtsar I would suggest reading it over again because that's not what it's about. Job isn't about God punishing Job, but testing him. God is free in ordering and utilizing his creation, the proper relationship between God and man is base solely on God's sovereign grace and man's response of faith and submissive trust. God didn't punish Job because of his faith, but only tested him. This is what happens in the real Christian life, God tests us and helps us learn.
@kingpharaohtsar Oh and by the way, I'm not saying you should come to be a Christian... I'm the not the person that's going to "convert" you to Christianity. I'm only discussing, giving you the facts, and showing you what I've learned. I'm only doing what Jesus would do, and to be honest I do agree that many non-Christians hate us because of the Crusades. That's not true Christianity at all. I haven't heard of Celtic Christians before learn something new everyday :)
@stoffy15 the celtic christians have been opressed for 1800yrs manly by the english but u cant kill the truth to me modren christians try to make the back story to jesus the 1st testament fit in with the 2nd testament but thay dont fit thay mixing fact with storys historicly jesus probily existed were as the 1st testament is baseless an thats dangerus to the truth
@kingpharaohtsar Well, yet again my friend, the coming Messiah and his prophesy of his coming is in the Old Testament and it matches up with the New Testament. For example Isaiah 7:14 "Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." This is Jesus, if you look into the New Testament, you'll see this passage. The Old and New Testaments fits, and the God of the Old and New Testament are the same.
@kingpharaohtsar Actually they do Jesus himself said he won't destory the Law. Jesus himself said "Do not think that i have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." The Law is from the old testament of Deut., and Exodus. As well in the Psalms it says "the LORD is merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in love. He will not always chide, nor will he keep his anger forever." Self explanatory God is full of Love, but he's a Just God.
@stoffy15 a just god well u dont see jesus going round saying kill people witch god dos all thru the 1st testament hows that love why coz he stops now an then from abuseing hes kids
@kingpharaohtsar Let me give you an example, I'm guessing you have a father. You did something wrong like you said no to a chore or something. Your Father would punish you right? Hopefully yes. Same with the Bible, God disciplines his children, and when that happens we fear his wrath, however his wrath took a long to time to form. Like it took over 100 years until God send the flood in Genesis. Also read Deuteronomy 28 it explains why this is so for the nation of Israel. :)
@stoffy15 in that case if u have kids love them like jesus wud coz if u love them like god wud ud kill them if ur child wants to b lazy dont punish it let it find its own way an dont do thing for it that will so it that being lazy gets u no wear life teachs ur kids not parants an why sud god judge anything judge not lest ye b judged urself that aloan makes yhwy powerless
@kingpharaohtsar And since you still don't understand what I'm saying I think it's best we stop with this conversation. Please look into this, if not it's been nice having this Theological conversation. May God Bless you.
@stoffy15 i undertsand what ur say its a well understood way to viwe the bible but from a moral point of viwe gods an ass hole unlike jesus that guy as amazing. may jesus bless you
@kingpharaohtsar Okay first of all dont even understand what your saying. Can you please re-explain what you just said. And I'll love kids when I do get them. What do you mean by lazy? If your saying that I will have my kids do whatever they want then I won't do that, I want to teach them and be respectful Men and Women. Of course if they do go on the deep end, I won't do what Pinktallgirl94 parents did, I'll still love them but I'll still do what I'm doing now being respectful
@stoffy15 you are the ignorant person, first of all The bible isnt fact. i could write a book and say something is true, but that dosent make it true? second there isnt any real evidence for jesus dont you think its wierd that jesus have not writing a single page in the bible?
@Ickxz calling me ignorant? well first of all the Bible has been proven fact, and Jesus Christ has walked on this earth. I know that Jesus didn't write any of the Gospels, but his Disciples did. Which would mean that they knew he existed. Third of all his Disciple wouldn't of died for him if they knew he didn't exist. Don't buy into this bias stuff, research it yourself, and read up on your history before you make a statement like that.
@stoffy15 no the bible hasn't been proven fact, show me any website that says that? and btw cause the bible says the bible is true, dosent make the bible true.
i can write about my imaginary friend "Greg" who does amazing things. i can truly believe that Greg is real, but that dosent make him real does it?
plz give evidence next message and not just state that its true
@Ickxz Hey, how about reading a book. Websites are by the far the worst way to show any evidence. And to explain your point, if anybody can just write the bible then they did a lousy job. When Jesus rose from the Dead, Mary was the first one to see him. If you look back during that time, women were considered inferior. If I were to write something believable, I wouldn't say Mary was the first to see Jesus after his resurrection. How about you doing your research before making remarks.
@Ickxz Second of all, look into your history books, Israel, Persia, Roman Empire, Babylon, Herod the Great, Philip (Herods son), All of Herod's sons, Augustus, Cyrus of Persia, Nebuchadnezzar, Paul of Tarsus, all of these characters are in the Bible. Are you denying these as well? Your assumptions on the Bible being a false document of fiction and fairy is quite amusing. Even Historians (even non-Christians) have the time to study the Bible (Dead Sea Scrolls, and many other documents).
@Ickxz Third of all you don't want to go any further then you are right now, because I can give you a history lesson on the Bible, and how it has been written over 1400 years, and is the one of the oldest documents ever, and with you complaining the about Bible shows me the power that it has. Therefore just stop right here before you get yourself into trouble. Thank you and good bye :)
@Ickxz Oh yeah to add one more to the mix, when I meant over 1400 years. I mean really over like 1400 B.C. yeah, sorry to ruin your bubble there, but has been around for quite a while now. And is a part of our history, and has been a part of our history, and is a historic book full of true living characters. The Bible is not imaginary, and it has been used as a guide into history. Can say anymore? is that suffice? Oh wait one more Dead Sea Scrolls, Paul's Letters, (seen these for myself).
@stoffy15 you still haven't given any evidence what so ever. if you don't like websites, then give me an example of one books that says the bible is true and not the bible it self. so what if the bible mention people that was alive at that time? dosent make it true what so ever. The is no evidence in the "Mary" part, actually as you pointed out, it makes it more unlikely since she women didn't mean much. I am not afraid of you and your hostility proves you're uncertainty.
@Ickxz I'm not afraid of you either my friend. And these books are proves I've just pointed out. Books "Encountering the Old Testament" By: Bill T. Arnold and Bryan E. Beyer; "Encountering the New Testament" by: Walter A. Elwell and Robert W. Yarbrough. These books explain the archeological and historical facts of the Old Testament and New Testaments of the Bible. Second of all the Dead Sea Scrolls, perfect evidence for the Bibles creditability.
@Ickxz Dude did you read those books exactly all the way through? In the introduction of the "Encountering the Old Testament" it says about the plenary verbal inspiration which means "the Holy Spirit interacted with human writers to produce the Bible." Plenary means full or complete. Plenary inspiration tells us that "God's inspiration extends to all Scripture, from Genesis to Revelation." Verbal means "word of Scripture" which means "God's inspiration extends to the very words...
@Ickxz the writers chose." Hmm.. seems to me that this theory tells us on the Bible is indeed trustworthy, which would mean it can be trusted. Just because you read a summery it doesn't mean it will give a the whole picture. Read this "textbook" fully through in order to under it's full concept. these quotes are in this book from pages 25-26 in the 1st edition of the "Encountering the Old Testament."
@stoffy15 ohhh christians saying the bible is true wow wouldnt have thought that, just becuase it says that a spirit talked to them isnt proof, you keep saying this and this guy says its true, give E-V-I-D-E-N-C-E
@Ickxz Dude, your not even listening to my evidence that I've been telling. It has been written over time with more then 40 authors.... okay never mind your not even going to listen. But let me just say this, now it relies on faith. Not just blind faith, but faith that has is true, and has been proven over and over again. Read the Bible for once my friend and you'll see many lessons in there that will change your life, and I mean it too.
@Ickxz Right now I can't give you the answer that you need, but research yourself and you'll probably find some Theologian, Apologist, or Scholar that knows the Bible more then myself. I'm only a student in college, and don't know everything. The past post are from what I've learned to be true, and I know for a fact that it has been proven true, but I can't say how or when. That's God to decide that part, not me. After all I'm only finite, God on the other hand is infinite + all knowing.
@stoffy15 Its simple the most people on this planet are blinded with ignorance they fail to see the true meaning of the bible and what Jesus did for our sins. You be gentle as a lamb and let them be as stubburn as a goat.
@kassop Amen, your right my brother or sister in Christ. As it says in the Bible, "it's by faith and not by sight." Thanks for your encouragement, and your gentleness. I know the Truth, but some will reject the truth. Just be a light to them, and be that encourager as well.
@pinktallgirl94 ask them if thay think jesus wud b so silly as to yell at there child for not thinking the same way after all jesus dont think the way his elders did
@pinktallgirl94 im sure if you just talk to them and tell them why you feel that way, and what led up to make you believe that way in a calm and collected way, they have to either respect your believes or gtfo :) i know you posted this two weeks ago so i hope it has resolved its self by now.
WATCH .youtube.com/watch?v=LRCvIbMKQec . With all the advances in quantum physics and string theory, it's hard to believe that so many people still doubt the existence in God. But it's even harder to believe that people are so ignorant that they come up with such ideas as Chaos theory. It's truly sad to see how ignorant and pompous humankind has become. Then again, it's almost always been this way. God help us all.
JESUS CHRIST, HIS CATHOLIC-UNIVERSAL-APOSTOLIC CHURCH, SACRAMENTS, THE BIBLE, MIRACLES, HEALINGS, ST. MARY APPARITIONS, MESSAGES FROM HEAVEN, SIGNS IN 2011 ARE NOT A MYTHOLOGY BUT THE REALITY !!!
God and Religion are two different subjects -- this clip is about the latter. Religion is man's attempt at mainstreaming faith; it is man's creation. Since the scope of science is limited to the material world, man cannot query "God" using the method of science.
@Tienwek Never say never. A genuine scientist have no irrational bias against things not yet found or understood. We can say with some certainty that the gods of various religion still in existence today are made up, faux, mumbojumbo. But all we have done so far is to disprove organized religion as a fact based truth. Like James Randi said in a lecture. Take 100 deer and throw them off the top of a building. How many of them flew? What you have proven is that those 100 did not fly!
@manonapedistal : (1) It is not irrational to say that one of the limitations of scope for all science is the material world even psychiatry requires a physical manifestation of the mind before scientific questions and conclusions can be drawn. (2) "x does not exist" is not a well-posed scientific hypothesis as in "the mind-body disjunction does not exist." It is not well-posed because absence cannot be tested/evinced even with profuse qualifications such as probabilities.
@Tienwek I think something got lost in translation. You said; "Since the scope of science is limited to the material world, man cannot query "God" using the method of science"
You don't know that, but I too don't see much reason to assume otherwise myself.
@manonapedistal My view is that Dawkins et al are passing on a philosophy at the edge of proto-scientific thought and not science itself. A philosophy, I might add, that is flawed in that questions that "matter not" to the scientist, are reframed as somewhat necessary and useful to science. They are not; one can probe the cause of the big bang without asking whether or not God exists. All he is doing is courting controversy and riding the gravy train to ignominy.
@Tienwek For years scientists have been practically silent on god. They only started their attack because of people like creationists who are trying to bring religion "into" science. They don't appreciate people who push ridiculous superstitious and often disprove ideas as science into schools.
They are simply defending by showing all the holes in ideas of people who push these ideas.
@SeanACampbell It is worth considering that Science and Religion for all the fuss about them are mainstream cultural artifacts which in Marx's words are "subject to ideological pressures." The #scopes trial# is a case in point whereby key actors were the ruling elite (lawyers, media and politicians) & (not surprisingly) the defendant was a recently-minted law school grad & substitute teacher who did little more than teach a state-approved text on biology.
@Tienwek I just looked at your earlier comments. I agree, science can't query the existence of "god" in general. What it can do is test whether the things people believe their god did is true.
Ultimately, I think Richard Dawkins doesn't care so much about the existence of gods at all - but rather the teachings of religions. He makes a point that religions are often wrong, and that god can neither be proven nor disproven so there is no reason to believe in it.
@Tienwek The god of the gaps really doesn't have much to say about morality since in all likelihood based on what we know the only place "god" could really fit in is at the big bang.
That means essentially a god started the big bang and waited for about 14 billion years for humans to come around. If that is god, then I don't really think there is much reason to believe that god cares who you are, what you do, or whether you happen to believe god exists.
I think you may be thinking about "religious truth" which is essentially weasel words for its opposite. Nothing of what it teaches conform to fact or actuality.
2:23 - 'belief without evidence', evidence does not prove anything. Empiricism can say on the basis of evidence how probable something is. Dawkins has failed to recognise that its logically impossible for God to be a substance.
@MrCobra811 the devil lives in the muscle tissue that pumpes oxygen,blood cells, and iron to various parts of the body? What an odd place for him to live.
He says that moderne science has all answers (!) Really?! Well, science is developing faster and faster and may come up with something really new (for him!) but, will he accept it?! He already said he won't accept God :(( He exalts himself against God! Sorry to say but, some are using religion to do the same kind of thing this man (who is against religion) is doing in the name of science, namely deceiving. I admire science and good scientists, but I hate deceivers. I love God!
This is a man exalting himself against the knowledge of God. Is he only after fame and money or what? Where are the good scientists? Why should anyone follow what Dawkins thinks is “far more uplifting than relating to God”? Perhaps he wants to be followed as “god”. Does he find it difficult to share place with God in the world? He comes up with what others already came up with long before him… and call this “modern science”. He says that modern science has the answers (!)
If there is a God, could he not just move the scientific mark? I mean nothing faster than the speed of light, but now we are finding this may not be fact. Funny, particles we can't even see are disrupting this age old belief. Maybe, there is more than meets the eye, and maybe we're not as intelligent as we would like to believe.
@bodybuildinguide Dawkins was a professor at Oxford, he is anything but an idiot. Even if you do believe in God, you MUST understand how someone could hold an atheistic position rationally.
@Mandragara Being a professor at Oxford holds no merit when defending his idiocy. I know I'm putting it pretty bluntly but he seems totally unaware.
There are subtler forces of life that can't be proven by modern science, but they can be felt. Like the saying "seeing is believing" so is feeling. And unless you are in-tune/aware of those subtler forces you are blinded to their insight.
But once you become aware, it's very hard to be an atheist.
@bodybuildinguide I think I could have worded my original comment better, someone who was a professor at Oxford is not unintelligent but of course he is not infallible. I don't agree with your premise of subtle forces but i'll grant it for discussions sake. You must understand that for someone who has not felt\does not believe in magic subtle forces, atheism is a rational position for them to hold. I do agree that all Abrahamic religions are catalysts for people becoming Atheists.
@Mandragara A while ago I read a passage in a hindu book explaining spiritual fitness. In it they answered the question "What would be different between someone spiritually fit and someone who is not?" As physical fitness is observable my muscles etc... They said it would be an increase in nerve cells and nerve cells help with perception.
You don't have to accept the "subtler forces" idea, but I would encourage you to stay open minded. I only accept it because of my own experiences.
@bodybuildinguide I'm unsure what you mean by the term "Spiritually fit" and how that relates to the brain. Does it refer to someone who reviews their ideas again and again? What does that have to do with the size of the brain? I like to think of myself as being an open minded individual, keeping in mind that I can still reject concepts I deem illogical.
I have written you two long responses that would have hopefully cleared things up a little bit, but my browser changed and they got deleted. My computer is having problems sorry.
My main message was when dealing with these subjects it's important to always stay open minded and constantly challenge your beliefs.
Will respond properly to you later, once my computer's settled down a bit. :)
@bodybuildinguide I would warn you against putting a lot of faith in your own experiences, a short walk through a mental asylum or a hard night at the pub easily demonstrates that ones own experiences are not the ideal source of primary information on how things are. Personally I think that models with predictive capability are the only ones of use. I would be interested on your thoughts on the matter, perhaps you could also explain what you mean by "subtle forces" with some examples?
@Mandragara Also it should be said that I think Christianity has prematurely pushed people towards Atheism and has clouded a lot of peoples judgement/understanding when it comes to concepts such as "God".
But at the end of the day people are free to believe what they want and people should be respectful of that. :)
@bodybuildinguide I would also warn you on believing things such as "seeing is believing", our senses are very misleading and I for one do not really trust my eyes to provide me with truth. I read a good book on this topic, "How We Know What Isn't So" by Thomas Gilovich. It's a very good book and well worth a read :)
How can we compare the Creator of the universe to a fairy . Look at the heavens and the earth . the moon and the greatness of the sun . could you look Upon God with Just your human eyes ? You say there is no evidence that God exist . But you wake up in the morning seeing the rise of the sun . And millions and millions of evidence that he exist . The bible says in the last days the earth will be scorching hot . And now we have Global warming . How could this fairy book be right ?
Handle with care! sHitler used and misused faith and belief to cause the most horrific atrocities ever committed by human beings in history. Cursing God because of the actions of vindictive bloodthirsty ethnic cleansing , misogynistic, homophobic racist, an infanticidal, genocidal, phillicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bullying” EVIL HUMAN BEINGS, does not prove or disprove God.
@EGMAG I agree. Dragons MAY exist, fairies MAY exist, gods MAY exist but as a thinking person I don't believe they do. I will change my mind when shown evidence (a book with talking snakes and unicorns in it doesn't count).
Dragons were dinosaurs, fairies were considered the odd folks of medival communities; so they existed. Of course all societies scriptures are not 100% accurate. Theologies as well as policing laws were intended to keep peace and harmony among violent savage based people; although religion and human law backfires to. The intent to spread love and peace is nothing new. Proof of God would spoil belief and faith would become knowing.
@alienlifeform11 So thats how you feel . But the heavens and the earth is no fairy tell ! Look in the sky and tell me what do you see . Is it real ? Have you ever seen Hitler is the flesh . Face to Face . If not how could you say that Hitler is real if you have not seen him . For all you no . Hitler could also be some made up story . With a actor in the videos . With a short little black mustache ?
I do not know if there is a God. I accept the unknown, but I do not cover it with non sense that distorts reality. If there is a God, his characteristics will not be similar to what the Christians say. God may be real, and if he is, as Dawkins said, he is a
"a vindictive bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser , a misogynistic, homophobic racist, an infanticidal, genocidal, phillicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
Thanks to the speed of the internet to and the search for the truth that you cannot pull the wool on any bodies head in this day and age, every thing is open for a debate people question their doctor their politician etc so why do we have to believe Dawkins ward as the absolute truth , check these links then question your self what you believe youtube.com/watch?v=HlCp-OH72B4&feature=related .youtube.com/watch?v=cCTuiugo7mU
Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given 2 the profane masses is another useful idiot 4 Jesuit machinations
Jesuitical; pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system 2 suit their Evo-Hoax Agenda to discredit the Bible
Papal Rome cant have their Counter Reformation 2nd Dark Age DESPOTISM until Bible is destroyed
atheist's are like this...i had a great day at school. No no no show me your proof that you had a great day.RICHARD DAWKINS message to you.....KISS MY COUNTRY ASS,COME DOWN HERE TO THE SOUTH WE CAN HIT YOU WITH BIBLES AND WATCH YOU BITCH LIKE THE OLD SHIT YOU ARE.LMAO.
there is no proof that anything exists.. we don't know if anything is truth, what is reality? life could be a dream. if you don't beleive that god exists because you can't see him.. then prove that wind exists.. show it to me.
jupianoplayer 1 day ago
I don't know what to believe.
TheDarrenQ 3 days ago
@TheDarrenQ Hey you know what that's fine with me. I would suggest researching on the issues of Christianity, Atheistism, and all that. I will say however that the Bible has changed my life, but think it through take a leap of faith, and research on these issues.
stoffy15 3 days ago
@stoffy15 I like religious people like you. You're encouraging someone to investigate for themselves instead of making threats of eternal damnation. If all religious people were like you, I'd have no problem with it.
JamesHLanier 1 day ago
@JamesHLanier Yeah I know, I don't like it when people try to force down there religion (including Christians) on peoples throats. I'm only here to be a light, an encourager, and to show people what Jesus did. I'm not the person that converts people to Christianity that's God's job, but I can at least tell them about the Bible. The other way around I don't like what Richard Dawkins has done, he's polluted the truth of Christianity, and trying to force his cause down to the people.
stoffy15 1 day ago
@stoffy15 I wouldn't say that Dawkins is trying to force his cause. He's just brutally honest about the negative aspects of religion.
JamesHLanier 1 day ago
@JamesHLanier You've got a point there, but that's what I'm seeing. Yes I know of the Crusades, and I believe what those "Christians" did was wrong. I can brutally be honest to say the exact same thing about secularism, for example the Nazi's, and the Soviet Union (otherwise Communism). I can go further back even, but that would take too long. So I agree that Christians have a black mark in there history, but secularism does as well. That only means that we're not perfect.
stoffy15 1 day ago
@stoffy15 It was the communism that drove Stalin, not secularism. Also, Hitler used Christianity as a recruitment tool. Secularism has no black marks on history because the terrible things Stalin and the other communists and fascists did weren't done because of secularism. It was because of a lack of morals, not a lack of religion. Hitler was vegetarian, but you certainly don't see vegetarians as evil. They're two things independent of one another. You're right though, we're not perfect.
JamesHLanier 1 day ago
@JamesHLanier I will agree/but disagree on this issue, but for right now I'm going to research on this further if I'm right or not. Either way, thanks for not being a jerk like the others on here.
stoffy15 23 hours ago
@JamesHLanier However the only thing I can say is Hitler did use "Christianity" as his recruitment tool, but that's not the true Christianity that I believe in. Both ways Stalin and Hitler were both evil, so lets settle with that.
stoffy15 23 hours ago
@stoffy15 Well yes, I agree completely with all of that.
JamesHLanier 23 hours ago
Has any one read a map up side down?
kassop 3 days ago
Religion is the one thing that people cling to, despite the lack of evidence. It's the only thing in the world where you can use the argument "well you can't prove that it's not real"... NO SHIT we can't prove it's not real because god is invisible and "exists" in a world that defies space and time. Completely defies all logic, yet so many religious nutjobs will dedicate their lives to it.
Jwest720 3 days ago
Handshake fail at 1:43
danfirth1994 4 days ago 2
Stupid ass christians will never learn....
charlie10433 4 days ago
Dick Dawkins is a total richard
RYAANISEPIC 1 week ago
@sam15mohsen- thanks for the advice. It has in a way resolved itself, by that I mean my parents don't except what I've told them and still believe I'm a Christian. I love them to death but it's frustrating knowing that my thoughts and types of questioning have been and are still being limited by what I was born into. I can't ask a legitimate question without being scolded. I'm just soo... Frustrated.
pinktallgirl94 1 week ago
i like this guy
in my opinion the gods and Jezus were Extraterrestrials
oooAndyooo 2 weeks ago
Man, this guy makes me so angry
Massy012 2 weeks ago
@Massy012 Who? Richard Dawkins?
LaserLips2 1 week ago
@LaserLips2 Yeah
Massy012 1 week ago
@Massy012 Do you believe in god?
LaserLips2 1 week ago
@LaserLips2 Yeah, and I guess your first impression is that I'm being biased. I just don't like his concept of 'the truth'.
Massy012 1 week ago
@Massy012 My first impression of you was "typical christian getting angry because someone was not believing in what you do, just like the dark age"... I'm not here to try and convince there is no god, because there is no point in trying, I'm just curious to why your angry at him, if you don't want to be angry don't watch Richard Dawkins talk about "The truth"...
LaserLips2 1 week ago
@LaserLips2 Nah, maybe I stated my thought's wrong. I'm not really angry he doesn't believe in God because then frankly I'd be angry at everyone and obviously that wouldn't be good. However I just found this annoying when he said evolution is the truth. I'm not seeking an argument here, just venting my thoughts.
Massy012 1 week ago
@Massy012 Why?
SRVMETAL 1 week ago
Richard Dawkins is just 1 of 7 Billion, he is entitled to his opinion, as is every other person on the planet. His opinion is no more valuable than any other persons opinion. He has no more evidence for his theory than does a Chrsitain about God. Its all about faith & belief. If he believes in Darwinian theory of evolution, then its His choice.
The big difference is that Christians have a purpose to life before and after death, but an Evolutionists life is utterly pointless even before death:)
delawarecop 2 weeks ago
@delawarecop Yes, your purpose is to die.
benjaminisaacallen 2 weeks ago
@delawarecop That isn't true at all.
1) Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
2) No, not everyones beliefs are equal. A doctor does not have equal standing to a non-doctor on matters of medicine. Someone who studies biology does not have equal standing as a non-biologist on matters of biology.
3) He has much more evidence for his theory than the religious do for their faith. There is no way to show the existance of any gods or more importantly that gods opinion on morality.
SeanACampbell 2 weeks ago
@SeanACampbell Yes oncology is a wonderful example of fine medical practise. Despite the system of Surgery, Radiation, and Chemotherapy, the cure rate for advanced cancers has barely changed over the last 50 years. So you can give an oncologists opinion more weight if you want, but it doesnt mean that he is entitled to more weight for his opinion. There is no evidence for Evolution, there is only a theoretical application of the evidence to suit his opinion.
delawarecop 2 weeks ago
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« There is no evidence for Evolution »
Except of course for observed adaptation and speciation, as well as the nested hierarchies of biology, and the matching diverging progressions of traits in palaeontology, the numerous morphological intermediates in the fossil record, numerous atavisms, ERV distribution patterns, human chromosome #2, and so on.
XGralgrathor 2 weeks ago
@delawarecop "Yes oncology is a wonderful example of fine medical practise. Despite the system of Surgery, Radiation, and Chemotherapy, the cure rate for advanced cancers has barely changed over the last 50 years" That has no relevance to whether a doctor better understands medicine than a non-doctor. And please cite your source on cancer cure rate.
"There is no evidence for Evolution, there is only a theoretical application of the evidence to suit his opinion." You are factually in error.
SeanACampbell 2 weeks ago
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« like the countless priests and nuns who »
Who preach that profilactics are evil, that condoms increase the chance of getting aids, and who proscribe abstinence knowing that people *will* have sex, and that because of their preaching, these people will have *unsafe* sex. You were saying?
MrGralgrathor 2 weeks ago
@delawarecop Peoples opinions are irrelevant unless they are based on evidence. There is plenty of evidence for evolution, there is no evidence one way or the other for the existence or non existence of a god or gods so it is necessary to suspend judgement until it is possible to test gods existence or non existence.
SeanACampbell 2 weeks ago
@delawarecop With regards to matters of purpose. Fundamentally and most importantly, there is no reason to assume that the universe owes your life any purpose at all. Nevertheless, I think he considers his purpose in life to learn about the world and educate others.
Christians no doubt subscribe to the idea that their purpose is to advise others what they happen to believe about the universe. That's fine, but it is wrong to say that no one can have a purpose in their life without religion.
SeanACampbell 2 weeks ago
@SeanACampbell I can say for certain that a life without God is completely futile - particularly for people like Dawkins. He will die and become maggot fodder and all his words and efforts have been for nothing. His accumulation of knowledge has no purpose, no fullfillment, no reason to exist to begin with - unless he intends to Evolve back into an ape and go join his ancestoral relatives whilst he is still alive. Perhaps he will do well to teach them the theory of Evolution:)
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« I can say for certain that a life without God is completely futile »
What about a life with a god? What is it that makes that any more meaningful?
XGralgrathor 2 weeks ago
@delawarecop "a life without God is completely futile" that is your opinion and is frankly irrelevant.
"He will die and become maggot fodder and all his words and efforts have been for nothing " Cite your source.
"His accumulation of knowledge has no purpose, no fullfillment, no reason to exist to begin with" Again, the universe does not owe you a purpose. You can make a purpose for yourself.
"unless he intends to Evolve back into an ape" Humans are apes under the current definition.
SeanACampbell 2 weeks ago
His definition of judao-christian god blew me away :D Its so true ! :D
Petrhrabal 2 weeks ago 9
Man stood upright, he looked around him...looking up, down, looking into the distant horizon & wondering. Wonderment. Imagination. Gods were born in the imagination of man...and so stories evolved, from these stories evolved myths, from these myths evolved religion.
satanidomini 2 weeks ago
god is !
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Why I believe in God
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ThePero20111 3 weeks ago
Evidence of the existence of true God
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ThePero20111 3 weeks ago
@weefeatures - Not a handshake burn. If you notice, Richard Dawkins was not facing the interviewer when he initially stuck out his hand and was not aware that a hand shake was offered.
dulceypeligroso 3 weeks ago
I told my devoted Christian parents that I was an Agnostic a few days ago. They yelled at me and accused me of being a devil worshipper. Needless to say, I was shocked by this completely ridiculous accusation. I am still standing for what I believe in though.
pinktallgirl94 3 weeks ago 39
@pinktallgirl94 Yes !!! Fantastic. May the power of Shazam continue to flow through you !!
MrBeautifulba1 2 weeks ago
@pinktallgirl94
Readers should try to think about how many Christian parents kick out atheist kids compared to atheist parents kicking out Christian kids.
DudeSpectre 2 weeks ago
@pinktallgirl94 I think I have to apologize to you. Most true Bible believing Christians don't act like this, believe me when I say this. Jesus Christ told us to love sinner, which includes Christians and non-Christians. I'm not here to convert you to Christianity, but to show you God's love like what Jesus showed me in his Word.
stoffy15 2 weeks ago
@stoffy15 jesus was a great man like buddha to deny it wud b dumb but the god as in the old testament god can go fuck himself hes the resone people hate christians an rightly so if thay follow that homophobic racist sexist thank jesus hes not real
kingpharaohtsar 2 weeks ago
@kingpharaohtsar I only got one question... have your read the old testament? Because that's not the God I know. Yes I know that God can be harsh, but that's out of his justice. And I'm not sorry for his justice, He knows what he's doing. Also if Jesus was such a good man then why did the Pharisees hate him? Why did the crowds love for one moment and wanted killed later on? I know why because he was the Son of God. You cannot just say he was just a good man, he's more then that.
stoffy15 1 week ago
@stoffy15 ur god an ur devil are 1 thing like say what god did to jobe why dont u try an explane that thank jesus its all made up
kingpharaohtsar 1 week ago
@kingpharaohtsar First of all, I don't even understand what your saying.. Are you saying that Jesus isn't real at all? lol wow where has this world heading toward. If your saying that Jesus isn't real then that's full of arrogance, there are plenty of evidence for Jesus. First of course the Bible (which isn't fiction look it up), and look at the history books for him. And second of all Job praised God at the end of his trial. Read Job the Devil and God are not one person.
stoffy15 1 week ago
@stoffy15 iv read the bible i was rised celtic christian its 1 of the oldist christianitys on earth its never changed so iv read jobe killing sum1s family isnt love that god is a dick jesus however is a grand fella fall of love an none of the hate of the first asshole [god] is the resone people hate christians
kingpharaohtsar 1 week ago
@kingpharaohtsar I would suggest reading it over again because that's not what it's about. Job isn't about God punishing Job, but testing him. God is free in ordering and utilizing his creation, the proper relationship between God and man is base solely on God's sovereign grace and man's response of faith and submissive trust. God didn't punish Job because of his faith, but only tested him. This is what happens in the real Christian life, God tests us and helps us learn.
stoffy15 1 week ago
@kingpharaohtsar Oh and by the way, I'm not saying you should come to be a Christian... I'm the not the person that's going to "convert" you to Christianity. I'm only discussing, giving you the facts, and showing you what I've learned. I'm only doing what Jesus would do, and to be honest I do agree that many non-Christians hate us because of the Crusades. That's not true Christianity at all. I haven't heard of Celtic Christians before learn something new everyday :)
stoffy15 1 week ago
@stoffy15 the celtic christians have been opressed for 1800yrs manly by the english but u cant kill the truth to me modren christians try to make the back story to jesus the 1st testament fit in with the 2nd testament but thay dont fit thay mixing fact with storys historicly jesus probily existed were as the 1st testament is baseless an thats dangerus to the truth
kingpharaohtsar 1 week ago
@kingpharaohtsar Well, yet again my friend, the coming Messiah and his prophesy of his coming is in the Old Testament and it matches up with the New Testament. For example Isaiah 7:14 "Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." This is Jesus, if you look into the New Testament, you'll see this passage. The Old and New Testaments fits, and the God of the Old and New Testament are the same.
stoffy15 1 week ago
@stoffy15 how do thay fit jesus spoke of love wear as god just want people to suffer the message isnt the same
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stoffy15 1 week ago
@kingpharaohtsar Actually they do Jesus himself said he won't destory the Law. Jesus himself said "Do not think that i have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." The Law is from the old testament of Deut., and Exodus. As well in the Psalms it says "the LORD is merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in love. He will not always chide, nor will he keep his anger forever." Self explanatory God is full of Love, but he's a Just God.
stoffy15 1 week ago
@stoffy15 a just god well u dont see jesus going round saying kill people witch god dos all thru the 1st testament hows that love why coz he stops now an then from abuseing hes kids
kingpharaohtsar 1 week ago
@kingpharaohtsar Let me give you an example, I'm guessing you have a father. You did something wrong like you said no to a chore or something. Your Father would punish you right? Hopefully yes. Same with the Bible, God disciplines his children, and when that happens we fear his wrath, however his wrath took a long to time to form. Like it took over 100 years until God send the flood in Genesis. Also read Deuteronomy 28 it explains why this is so for the nation of Israel. :)
stoffy15 1 week ago
@stoffy15 in that case if u have kids love them like jesus wud coz if u love them like god wud ud kill them if ur child wants to b lazy dont punish it let it find its own way an dont do thing for it that will so it that being lazy gets u no wear life teachs ur kids not parants an why sud god judge anything judge not lest ye b judged urself that aloan makes yhwy powerless
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stoffy15 1 week ago
@kingpharaohtsar And since you still don't understand what I'm saying I think it's best we stop with this conversation. Please look into this, if not it's been nice having this Theological conversation. May God Bless you.
stoffy15 1 week ago
@stoffy15 i undertsand what ur say its a well understood way to viwe the bible but from a moral point of viwe gods an ass hole unlike jesus that guy as amazing. may jesus bless you
kingpharaohtsar 1 week ago
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@kingpharaohtsar Okay first of all dont even understand what your saying. Can you please re-explain what you just said. And I'll love kids when I do get them. What do you mean by lazy? If your saying that I will have my kids do whatever they want then I won't do that, I want to teach them and be respectful Men and Women. Of course if they do go on the deep end, I won't do what Pinktallgirl94 parents did, I'll still love them but I'll still do what I'm doing now being respectful
stoffy15 1 week ago
@stoffy15 you are the ignorant person, first of all The bible isnt fact. i could write a book and say something is true, but that dosent make it true? second there isnt any real evidence for jesus dont you think its wierd that jesus have not writing a single page in the bible?
Ickxz 6 days ago
@Ickxz calling me ignorant? well first of all the Bible has been proven fact, and Jesus Christ has walked on this earth. I know that Jesus didn't write any of the Gospels, but his Disciples did. Which would mean that they knew he existed. Third of all his Disciple wouldn't of died for him if they knew he didn't exist. Don't buy into this bias stuff, research it yourself, and read up on your history before you make a statement like that.
stoffy15 6 days ago
@stoffy15 no the bible hasn't been proven fact, show me any website that says that? and btw cause the bible says the bible is true, dosent make the bible true.
i can write about my imaginary friend "Greg" who does amazing things. i can truly believe that Greg is real, but that dosent make him real does it?
plz give evidence next message and not just state that its true
Ickxz 6 days ago
@Ickxz Hey, how about reading a book. Websites are by the far the worst way to show any evidence. And to explain your point, if anybody can just write the bible then they did a lousy job. When Jesus rose from the Dead, Mary was the first one to see him. If you look back during that time, women were considered inferior. If I were to write something believable, I wouldn't say Mary was the first to see Jesus after his resurrection. How about you doing your research before making remarks.
stoffy15 6 days ago
@Ickxz Second of all, look into your history books, Israel, Persia, Roman Empire, Babylon, Herod the Great, Philip (Herods son), All of Herod's sons, Augustus, Cyrus of Persia, Nebuchadnezzar, Paul of Tarsus, all of these characters are in the Bible. Are you denying these as well? Your assumptions on the Bible being a false document of fiction and fairy is quite amusing. Even Historians (even non-Christians) have the time to study the Bible (Dead Sea Scrolls, and many other documents).
stoffy15 5 days ago
@Ickxz Third of all you don't want to go any further then you are right now, because I can give you a history lesson on the Bible, and how it has been written over 1400 years, and is the one of the oldest documents ever, and with you complaining the about Bible shows me the power that it has. Therefore just stop right here before you get yourself into trouble. Thank you and good bye :)
stoffy15 5 days ago
@Ickxz Oh yeah to add one more to the mix, when I meant over 1400 years. I mean really over like 1400 B.C. yeah, sorry to ruin your bubble there, but has been around for quite a while now. And is a part of our history, and has been a part of our history, and is a historic book full of true living characters. The Bible is not imaginary, and it has been used as a guide into history. Can say anymore? is that suffice? Oh wait one more Dead Sea Scrolls, Paul's Letters, (seen these for myself).
stoffy15 5 days ago
@stoffy15 you still haven't given any evidence what so ever. if you don't like websites, then give me an example of one books that says the bible is true and not the bible it self. so what if the bible mention people that was alive at that time? dosent make it true what so ever. The is no evidence in the "Mary" part, actually as you pointed out, it makes it more unlikely since she women didn't mean much. I am not afraid of you and your hostility proves you're uncertainty.
Ickxz 5 days ago
@Ickxz I'm not afraid of you either my friend. And these books are proves I've just pointed out. Books "Encountering the Old Testament" By: Bill T. Arnold and Bryan E. Beyer; "Encountering the New Testament" by: Walter A. Elwell and Robert W. Yarbrough. These books explain the archeological and historical facts of the Old Testament and New Testaments of the Bible. Second of all the Dead Sea Scrolls, perfect evidence for the Bibles creditability.
stoffy15 5 days ago
@stoffy15 i have now read about these books, none of them is about proving the bible true, but is an introduction to the books.
The dead sea scrolls dont prove anything other than the bible havent been changed.
Ickxz 5 days ago
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stoffy15 5 days ago
@Ickxz Dude did you read those books exactly all the way through? In the introduction of the "Encountering the Old Testament" it says about the plenary verbal inspiration which means "the Holy Spirit interacted with human writers to produce the Bible." Plenary means full or complete. Plenary inspiration tells us that "God's inspiration extends to all Scripture, from Genesis to Revelation." Verbal means "word of Scripture" which means "God's inspiration extends to the very words...
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stoffy15 5 days ago
@Ickxz the writers chose." Hmm.. seems to me that this theory tells us on the Bible is indeed trustworthy, which would mean it can be trusted. Just because you read a summery it doesn't mean it will give a the whole picture. Read this "textbook" fully through in order to under it's full concept. these quotes are in this book from pages 25-26 in the 1st edition of the "Encountering the Old Testament."
stoffy15 5 days ago
@stoffy15 ohhh christians saying the bible is true wow wouldnt have thought that, just becuase it says that a spirit talked to them isnt proof, you keep saying this and this guy says its true, give E-V-I-D-E-N-C-E
Ickxz 5 days ago
@Ickxz Dude, your not even listening to my evidence that I've been telling. It has been written over time with more then 40 authors.... okay never mind your not even going to listen. But let me just say this, now it relies on faith. Not just blind faith, but faith that has is true, and has been proven over and over again. Read the Bible for once my friend and you'll see many lessons in there that will change your life, and I mean it too.
stoffy15 5 days ago
@Ickxz Right now I can't give you the answer that you need, but research yourself and you'll probably find some Theologian, Apologist, or Scholar that knows the Bible more then myself. I'm only a student in college, and don't know everything. The past post are from what I've learned to be true, and I know for a fact that it has been proven true, but I can't say how or when. That's God to decide that part, not me. After all I'm only finite, God on the other hand is infinite + all knowing.
stoffy15 5 days ago
@stoffy15 Ever heard of people reading the map the wrong way? just answer me and i might suprise you with my answer.
kassop 3 days ago
@kassop And what's your answer?
stoffy15 3 days ago
@stoffy15 Its simple the most people on this planet are blinded with ignorance they fail to see the true meaning of the bible and what Jesus did for our sins. You be gentle as a lamb and let them be as stubburn as a goat.
kassop 3 days ago
@kassop Amen, your right my brother or sister in Christ. As it says in the Bible, "it's by faith and not by sight." Thanks for your encouragement, and your gentleness. I know the Truth, but some will reject the truth. Just be a light to them, and be that encourager as well.
stoffy15 3 days ago
@stoffy15 Amen to that, God bless you.
kassop 2 days ago
@pinktallgirl94 ask them if thay think jesus wud b so silly as to yell at there child for not thinking the same way after all jesus dont think the way his elders did
kingpharaohtsar 2 weeks ago
@pinktallgirl94 im sure if you just talk to them and tell them why you feel that way, and what led up to make you believe that way in a calm and collected way, they have to either respect your believes or gtfo :) i know you posted this two weeks ago so i hope it has resolved its self by now.
sam15mohsen 1 week ago
@pinktallgirl94 Good for you! :) My turn next
rickysims212 1 week ago
@pinktallgirl94 In what country do you live? This seems absurd to my ears.
macgeek104 1 week ago
@pinktallgirl94 Good for you... :-)
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JezusSlave 4 weeks ago
If there's no evidence that God exists - how can there be evidence that he doesn't?
Joac0018 4 weeks ago
@Joac0018 If there's no evidence that unicorns exist, how can there be evidence that they don't?
bornathlete1 4 weeks ago
@Joac0018 That which is assumed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
WestTheNinja 3 weeks ago
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Joac0018 3 weeks ago
@WestTheNinja Then I guess we're both wrong.
Joac0018 3 weeks ago
@Joac0018 what was I assuming without evidence.
WestTheNinja 3 weeks ago
not RD was talking about the old testament god in the intro just so you know
ShooterCinema 4 weeks ago
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Emlis16 1 month ago
God and Religion are two different subjects -- this clip is about the latter. Religion is man's attempt at mainstreaming faith; it is man's creation. Since the scope of science is limited to the material world, man cannot query "God" using the method of science.
Tienwek 1 month ago
@Tienwek Never say never. A genuine scientist have no irrational bias against things not yet found or understood. We can say with some certainty that the gods of various religion still in existence today are made up, faux, mumbojumbo. But all we have done so far is to disprove organized religion as a fact based truth. Like James Randi said in a lecture. Take 100 deer and throw them off the top of a building. How many of them flew? What you have proven is that those 100 did not fly!
manonapedistal 1 month ago
@manonapedistal : (1) It is not irrational to say that one of the limitations of scope for all science is the material world even psychiatry requires a physical manifestation of the mind before scientific questions and conclusions can be drawn. (2) "x does not exist" is not a well-posed scientific hypothesis as in "the mind-body disjunction does not exist." It is not well-posed because absence cannot be tested/evinced even with profuse qualifications such as probabilities.
Tienwek 1 month ago
@Tienwek I think something got lost in translation. You said; "Since the scope of science is limited to the material world, man cannot query "God" using the method of science"
You don't know that, but I too don't see much reason to assume otherwise myself.
manonapedistal 1 month ago
@manonapedistal My view is that Dawkins et al are passing on a philosophy at the edge of proto-scientific thought and not science itself. A philosophy, I might add, that is flawed in that questions that "matter not" to the scientist, are reframed as somewhat necessary and useful to science. They are not; one can probe the cause of the big bang without asking whether or not God exists. All he is doing is courting controversy and riding the gravy train to ignominy.
Tienwek 1 month ago
@Tienwek Fair point.
manonapedistal 1 month ago
@Tienwek For years scientists have been practically silent on god. They only started their attack because of people like creationists who are trying to bring religion "into" science. They don't appreciate people who push ridiculous superstitious and often disprove ideas as science into schools.
They are simply defending by showing all the holes in ideas of people who push these ideas.
SeanACampbell 4 weeks ago
@SeanACampbell It is worth considering that Science and Religion for all the fuss about them are mainstream cultural artifacts which in Marx's words are "subject to ideological pressures." The #scopes trial# is a case in point whereby key actors were the ruling elite (lawyers, media and politicians) & (not surprisingly) the defendant was a recently-minted law school grad & substitute teacher who did little more than teach a state-approved text on biology.
Tienwek 2 weeks ago
@Tienwek I just looked at your earlier comments. I agree, science can't query the existence of "god" in general. What it can do is test whether the things people believe their god did is true.
Ultimately, I think Richard Dawkins doesn't care so much about the existence of gods at all - but rather the teachings of religions. He makes a point that religions are often wrong, and that god can neither be proven nor disproven so there is no reason to believe in it.
SeanACampbell 2 weeks ago
@Tienwek The god of the gaps really doesn't have much to say about morality since in all likelihood based on what we know the only place "god" could really fit in is at the big bang.
That means essentially a god started the big bang and waited for about 14 billion years for humans to come around. If that is god, then I don't really think there is much reason to believe that god cares who you are, what you do, or whether you happen to believe god exists.
SeanACampbell 2 weeks ago
3:07 - 08: 'concerned with scientific truth'. Science produces 'facts'. Facts are not the same as truths.
sukka113 1 month ago
@sukka113 Can you define both for me?
chr0n0naut 1 month ago
@sukka113 And religion is truth? how can truth have no evidence?
wowzabowza123 1 month ago
@sukka113 truth (trth)
n. pl. truths (trz, trths)
1. Conformity to fact or actuality....
I think you may be thinking about "religious truth" which is essentially weasel words for its opposite. Nothing of what it teaches conform to fact or actuality.
manonapedistal 1 month ago
2:23 - 'belief without evidence', evidence does not prove anything. Empiricism can say on the basis of evidence how probable something is. Dawkins has failed to recognise that its logically impossible for God to be a substance.
sukka113 1 month ago
@sukka113 Even if science has the problem of induction, it must still be favoured over something that has no evident whatsoever.
chr0n0naut 1 month ago
who else would love see dawkins debate against the pope?
antonvandeloo 1 month ago 2
he is talking about understanding
bartekSecondLife 1 month ago
TY SER
bartekSecondLife 1 month ago
cringe when he tried to shake his hand
jaffarm 1 month ago
Do you people know where the devil lives ? In Richard Dawkins heart , Devolution
MrCobra811 1 month ago
@MrCobra811 the devil lives in the muscle tissue that pumpes oxygen,blood cells, and iron to various parts of the body? What an odd place for him to live.
coopmuch56 1 month ago
He says that moderne science has all answers (!) Really?! Well, science is developing faster and faster and may come up with something really new (for him!) but, will he accept it?! He already said he won't accept God :(( He exalts himself against God! Sorry to say but, some are using religion to do the same kind of thing this man (who is against religion) is doing in the name of science, namely deceiving. I admire science and good scientists, but I hate deceivers. I love God!
elbrasse 1 month ago
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elbrasse 1 month ago
This is a man exalting himself against the knowledge of God. Is he only after fame and money or what? Where are the good scientists? Why should anyone follow what Dawkins thinks is “far more uplifting than relating to God”? Perhaps he wants to be followed as “god”. Does he find it difficult to share place with God in the world? He comes up with what others already came up with long before him… and call this “modern science”. He says that modern science has the answers (!)
elbrasse 1 month ago
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elbrasse 1 month ago
that awkward moment when you go to shake dawkins hand and he turns his head... LOL
eatingtacos000 1 month ago 18
DAWKİNS is a DECCAL...
HE MUST BE KİLLED...
SUSSTURUCU 1 month ago
to the people in 4001
the Lord of the rings is a MOVIE we used to watch in 2001 so don't believe as a "religion"
Mosin541 2 months ago
If there is a God, could he not just move the scientific mark? I mean nothing faster than the speed of light, but now we are finding this may not be fact. Funny, particles we can't even see are disrupting this age old belief. Maybe, there is more than meets the eye, and maybe we're not as intelligent as we would like to believe.
1527hns 2 months ago
The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands.
Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they reveal knowledge.
CTS2433 2 months ago
@CTS2433 Sky is pretty empty bro
Mandragara 2 months ago
Lol Richard Dawkins is an idiot, to be that old and still so unaware is a real shame.
bodybuildinguide 2 months ago
@bodybuildinguide Dawkins was a professor at Oxford, he is anything but an idiot. Even if you do believe in God, you MUST understand how someone could hold an atheistic position rationally.
Mandragara 2 months ago
@Mandragara Being a professor at Oxford holds no merit when defending his idiocy. I know I'm putting it pretty bluntly but he seems totally unaware.
There are subtler forces of life that can't be proven by modern science, but they can be felt. Like the saying "seeing is believing" so is feeling. And unless you are in-tune/aware of those subtler forces you are blinded to their insight.
But once you become aware, it's very hard to be an atheist.
bodybuildinguide 2 months ago
@bodybuildinguide I think I could have worded my original comment better, someone who was a professor at Oxford is not unintelligent but of course he is not infallible. I don't agree with your premise of subtle forces but i'll grant it for discussions sake. You must understand that for someone who has not felt\does not believe in magic subtle forces, atheism is a rational position for them to hold. I do agree that all Abrahamic religions are catalysts for people becoming Atheists.
Mandragara 2 months ago
@Mandragara A while ago I read a passage in a hindu book explaining spiritual fitness. In it they answered the question "What would be different between someone spiritually fit and someone who is not?" As physical fitness is observable my muscles etc... They said it would be an increase in nerve cells and nerve cells help with perception.
You don't have to accept the "subtler forces" idea, but I would encourage you to stay open minded. I only accept it because of my own experiences.
bodybuildinguide 2 months ago
@bodybuildinguide I'm unsure what you mean by the term "Spiritually fit" and how that relates to the brain. Does it refer to someone who reviews their ideas again and again? What does that have to do with the size of the brain? I like to think of myself as being an open minded individual, keeping in mind that I can still reject concepts I deem illogical.
Mandragara 2 months ago
@Mandragara Ugh sorry.
I have written you two long responses that would have hopefully cleared things up a little bit, but my browser changed and they got deleted. My computer is having problems sorry.
My main message was when dealing with these subjects it's important to always stay open minded and constantly challenge your beliefs.
Will respond properly to you later, once my computer's settled down a bit. :)
bodybuildinguide 2 months ago
@bodybuildinguide Urgh, what a pain. If you like we can switch to PM's to remove this word cap
Mandragara 2 months ago
@Mandragara yeah go for it
bodybuildinguide 2 months ago
@bodybuildinguide I would warn you against putting a lot of faith in your own experiences, a short walk through a mental asylum or a hard night at the pub easily demonstrates that ones own experiences are not the ideal source of primary information on how things are. Personally I think that models with predictive capability are the only ones of use. I would be interested on your thoughts on the matter, perhaps you could also explain what you mean by "subtle forces" with some examples?
Mandragara 2 months ago
@Mandragara Also it should be said that I think Christianity has prematurely pushed people towards Atheism and has clouded a lot of peoples judgement/understanding when it comes to concepts such as "God".
But at the end of the day people are free to believe what they want and people should be respectful of that. :)
bodybuildinguide 2 months ago
@bodybuildinguide I would also warn you on believing things such as "seeing is believing", our senses are very misleading and I for one do not really trust my eyes to provide me with truth. I read a good book on this topic, "How We Know What Isn't So" by Thomas Gilovich. It's a very good book and well worth a read :)
Mandragara 2 months ago
How can we compare the Creator of the universe to a fairy . Look at the heavens and the earth . the moon and the greatness of the sun . could you look Upon God with Just your human eyes ? You say there is no evidence that God exist . But you wake up in the morning seeing the rise of the sun . And millions and millions of evidence that he exist . The bible says in the last days the earth will be scorching hot . And now we have Global warming . How could this fairy book be right ?
thinkalott33 2 months ago
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Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
AtheismGate 2 months ago
1:41 handshake burn
weefeatures 2 months ago 26
handshake fail in the beginning? lol
gul091 2 months ago 3
Richard Dawkins has a wicked tie, seriously, just look at that thing, I want one.
MegaYoshitsune 2 months ago 2
Handle with care! sHitler used and misused faith and belief to cause the most horrific atrocities ever committed by human beings in history. Cursing God because of the actions of vindictive bloodthirsty ethnic cleansing , misogynistic, homophobic racist, an infanticidal, genocidal, phillicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bullying” EVIL HUMAN BEINGS, does not prove or disprove God.
EGMAG 2 months ago
@EGMAG You cannot prove the non-existence of the non-existent.
alienlifeform11 2 months ago
@alienlifeform11 non-existence of the non-existent. <<
I know all that bullshit. You must take into account that just what you think does not exist may exist regardless of what you think!
EGMAG 2 months ago
@EGMAG I agree. Dragons MAY exist, fairies MAY exist, gods MAY exist but as a thinking person I don't believe they do. I will change my mind when shown evidence (a book with talking snakes and unicorns in it doesn't count).
alienlifeform11 2 months ago
@alienlifeform11 Dragonsfairies <<
Dragons were dinosaurs, fairies were considered the odd folks of medival communities; so they existed. Of course all societies scriptures are not 100% accurate. Theologies as well as policing laws were intended to keep peace and harmony among violent savage based people; although religion and human law backfires to. The intent to spread love and peace is nothing new. Proof of God would spoil belief and faith would become knowing.
EGMAG 2 months ago
@alienlifeform11 So thats how you feel . But the heavens and the earth is no fairy tell ! Look in the sky and tell me what do you see . Is it real ? Have you ever seen Hitler is the flesh . Face to Face . If not how could you say that Hitler is real if you have not seen him . For all you no . Hitler could also be some made up story . With a actor in the videos . With a short little black mustache ?
thinkalott33 2 months ago
@thinkalott33 Are you suggesting we believe in EVERYTHING regardless of evidence?
alienlifeform11 2 months ago
@thinkalott33 There is more evidence of Hitler having existed than any god. That's a brilliant argument, thanks :P
JtotheKify 2 months ago
I do not know if there is a God. I accept the unknown, but I do not cover it with non sense that distorts reality. If there is a God, his characteristics will not be similar to what the Christians say. God may be real, and if he is, as Dawkins said, he is a
"a vindictive bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser , a misogynistic, homophobic racist, an infanticidal, genocidal, phillicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
Have fun praising a complete maniac.
Rind0Man 2 months ago 3
Thanks to the speed of the internet to and the search for the truth that you cannot pull the wool on any bodies head in this day and age, every thing is open for a debate people question their doctor their politician etc so why do we have to believe Dawkins ward as the absolute truth , check these links then question your self what you believe youtube.com/watch?v=HlCp-OH72B4&feature=related .youtube.com/watch?v=cCTuiugo7mU
youtube.com/watch?v=HlCp-OH72B4&feature=related
simonmathew615 2 months ago
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@simonmathew615 "so why do we have to believe Dawkins ward as the absolute truth"
Who does? In fact, who CLAIMS he does?
seansalvador1 2 months ago
The guy who interviews him is pretty good. i mean he makes points and clarifications that are spot on about what dawkins says.
Nice to hear this type of interviews once in a while :D
Mtaalas 3 months ago
@seansalvador1 he think's he soo smart.richard dawkins that is annoying.
PS.....don't comment back.i don't want my inbox saying someone commented back.
Erstaunliche8Jungen 3 months ago
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Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given 2 the profane masses is another useful idiot 4 Jesuit machinations
Jesuitical; pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system 2 suit their Evo-Hoax Agenda to discredit the Bible
Papal Rome cant have their Counter Reformation 2nd Dark Age DESPOTISM until Bible is destroyed
SpencerBenedict2nd 3 months ago
atheist's are like this...i had a great day at school. No no no show me your proof that you had a great day.RICHARD DAWKINS message to you.....KISS MY COUNTRY ASS,COME DOWN HERE TO THE SOUTH WE CAN HIT YOU WITH BIBLES AND WATCH YOU BITCH LIKE THE OLD SHIT YOU ARE.LMAO.
Erstaunliche8Jungen 3 months ago
@Erstaunliche8Jungen
Very Christian of you, what WOULD Jesus say?
seansalvador1 3 months ago
Isn't it ironic that in the age of information people are so fucking stupid?
I got one word of advice for you pseudo-intellectuals: don't be mislead by the knowledge.
ugoodHomeBoy 3 months ago
@ugoodHomeBoy Well said
Bladesmith79 3 months ago
@ugoodHomeBoy wow man..you actually saying that "knowledge" CAN be misleading.. congratulations.. u just proved evolution wrong.. the evidence? YOU
theWACKIIRAQI 3 months ago