Assyrian Levies

[Pooqta]

Kurds are the gypsies of the middle east. same as romani in the europe. qoos arthokhon

[AssyrianQatola]

We should never join the british betrayers.

[Cyxares]

Assyrian+Aramean+Arabs everybody like them, have COMEN from Saudi Arabian DESERTS and have Nonething to do with Forests,mountains and Kurdistan

[gavi781]

Yes FACTS are FACTS and I've asked of this famous list of 'atrocities' Kurds have 'committed' a HUNDERED times but no assyrian has ever managed to pridused one!!! All I have got are 4-5 cases of crime and 2 of them are retaliation by Kurds against assyrians for murder!!! so you have 2-3 cases of crimes in the area Kurds have ruled for 18 years and this is what you call genocide! You have more assyrian-assyrian killing than kurd-assyrian killings! You have more rights under.....

[gavi781]

.Kurdish rule then anywhere else in the world! Tell us were do assyrians have more rights than under Kurdish rule? Why are you not talking about your real ethnic cleansing by the arabs? they have driven you all out, they have beheaded your priests they have kidnapped and killed you, they have burned down you churches but not a word about that! You try to blame Kurds for every crime arabs commit against you! Funny thing is you all flee to Kurdistan!!! Why!?!

[MrSUPERDOLMA]

i wonder why he didnt slap back...could it be because the judges,lawyers and police are kurds and he knows that no matter what even in self defense he'd be the one gettiing FUCKED in the end with the law??? i mean its only been happening in the northern part of iraq for hmmm 30 years!

no1 tries to link us with ancient assyrians we already have been linked for more than 3,000 years now...modern historians all agree so i still dont know where he gets this 150 years ago missionary crap from!

[MrSUPERDOLMA]

i see gavi is still at his little anti -assyrian campaign...anyways we know who we are we know were we come from and we know our history....who cares what kurdaya say about us FACTS ARE FACTS and the facts are we are the original assyrians...babylonians and chaldeans the original indigenous people of iraq...only thing thats changed is who runs where we live at ...THATS IT ......erab ardet kul kurdaya...era gu yimat kul kurdee khaba

[gavi781]

wow little ASS-syrian donkey I'm not trying to write an assay lol. The guy I slapped was older and the same size as me, is that ok with you?

Don't talk about Kurds when no one called ASS-syrian existed 120 years ago! until a british missionary showed up that is lol. Your a gypsy nation that is trying (and failing) to link yourself to an ancient extinct nation that died out 2500 years ago.

It's amazing to hear ASS-syrians talk about fighting lol, you really want to go there ASS-syrian?

[anosh88]

Was the person you slapped a 5 year old? If that is so, maybe it shows your character, or lack thereof. Kurds did not come from the Middle East and the only way they got a state was out of sympathy. Do not make up lies saying Kurds fought as you are not basing that on any historical facts but rather your own selfish gullibility. Anyway, seeing the profuse weak grammatical errors you have shown here, I am sure your comprehension is too low to even engage in a civilized conversation.

[romeoume]

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[PrincessSibylla]

Kurdee I would die if I had to live with a name like that muahahaha!!! Long live Assyria!!! The pride of the Middle East!!!!

[AK519CK]

When my dad was little he got into a fight with 3 kurds because they made fun of him because he was Christian, And he beat the fuck outta all of them hahaahahahahhahaaahhahahhahaha­hahahha

I still laugh at how kurds cant do shit without large numbers or weapons hjaaahaahahahaha

[AK519CK]

Why do Kurds have to comment on everysingle Assyrian video out there..

What are you fucking idiots trying to proove?

That you spend you're whole life on YouTube?

Because is sure seems like it.

Fucking apes.

[anosh88]

A weak person uses false words to conceal their insecurity. If Kurds are confident and do not feel threatened by Assyrians, they would have shown respect and not run to every Assyrian post and make a comment on it. They want attention since we do not give to them, which also angers them because we do not seek it from them either. Look up Assyrians in Armenia and compare them to Kurds: Assyrians are much more likely to be employed and educated than Kurds.

[anosh88]

The Kurdish commentators here must be kids or fat and living in their parents' basement. Try to sympathise with them.

[dhanna09]

To correct an earlier poster...

There are approximately 1.7 million Assyrians in Iraq right now.

Another 1.4 million spread across the world.

And about 3 million that are in denial, and call themselves "Chaldean"

[sargongabara]

Dear Dhanna09:-) Thank you and God bless you.There's one Nation that is ASSYRIA Bet-Nahrain. If some don't like it please ask Your God that he told us that please read from Isaiah 19-23-25. Also Matthew 12-Verse 41. Kaya Atoor Hal Abab. Shlama

[samuel1776]

Yeah really, if you don't believe us, at least believe the words of God. I never saw any versus in the Bible calling the Chaldeans "The rod of God's anger".

[ZurvanOrder]

Well, I see that you're an ignorant, stupid dumbass. When I first read this I thought that it was an american hillbilly who wrote this. Please read more about kurds and afghans (There are several ethnic groups in Afghanistan, you idiot).

[yohanun]

we are max 1.0 million in Iraq today. If we count our whole people we have some 1.5 million in Lebanon...1.7 million in Syria and 1.0 million in Iraq

[soniyeeee]

greeks armenians and russia accept the genocide you made against 2 million turks

and 1 million circassian (made by russia

[yohanun]

They day you accept the genocide you Turks and Kurds made at 1 million Assyrians, 1.5 Million Armenians and 400.000 Greeks

[THEKINGS001]

GO GO ASSYRIA GO!!!

[G33KN3rd]

GIVE THIS GUY A THUMBS UP! Khaya Aṯûr

[ybarkawi]

You kurds keep talking today, but tomorow when the americans leave, then what will you do, arabs from the south, and turkes from the north, shut your mouth and just enjoy your kurdistan for little while, casue it will not remain, once the oil companies make their money their gone,

[FireOfMedia2]

when we read your comments we think that Assyrians have 400 000 soldiers with 4 000 000 Assyrians! hah what are you to say we fuck kurds and take them back to Afghanistan? e have to thank kurds who let you live in their land! Kurds could put an end to all of you and destroy you 8 villages.

[manina06]

Thats great! thanx alot MalkaDanno.

[MATTUKA]

boys fuck kurds stop arguing ur muslim dogs go fcuk ur sister assyraisn listne 2 me dont argue with a kurd they dont shut up do u know how much kurds have been killed by assyrians and iraqis we have fuked there mothers over how much times dont argue wit tehm trust me

[AshurLand]

british are traitors they should be ashamed when they mention assyrian name because they are idiots gays every thing they used assyrians in ww1 for thier interests spit spit tooooooooooooffffff

[MATTUKA]

lol u sound like my dad

[AshurLand]

plz leave Assyria to it's people Assyrians , kurds are afghans plz go to afghanistan we don't want you in Assyria , we can buy you tickets one way to afghanistan bye bye

[AK519CK]

U mean Iraq,

There is no Assyria...

Just sayin' ur makin urself look dumb when you say that.

[Toniito]

Fucking British Snakes and Filthy Dogs. We help them and they backstabb us. So U all know The british are egos trippin motherfuckers. Dont U assyrian ever forget this. How much we helped them and how little they gave us. Actually they didnt give us anything instead the stole from us. U want proof, go to british museum. Fuck England for Life. Omtanaya

[Suryoyo50]

guests

[Suryoyo50]

kurds are living in assyrian land you most remember that you are our gests

[donthakiller]

almost no country in the world are in its historical place now, it was nothing before to invade a country you make it so big deal. When assoris and kurds was in their great times it was sooo easy to concuere land just take a few thousand men with horses and kill everyone you see and voila you own the lands

[Suryoyo50]

qadir you are not medes and it was babylonians who concured nineveh without our brothers the medes would not be able to conqure nineveh and the assyrian soldiers was drunk and the jews in the city was rebelling

kurds was nomadic tribes from afghanistan who comed to mesopotamia 300 AD

[donthakiller]

Ooo come on man, now you just stupid, okey they came rom afganistan then I can just say assoris came from saudi arabia even tho I know its not true...if you can not discuss mature without mixing facts and lies then you should not say anything my assori friend

[samuel1776]

Than you Suryoyo50. No one could conquer the Assyrians but the Assyrians. Kurds are Nomadic tribes that came to Iraq around 300 AD, so don't act like you own the fucking land. No one stays on top forever, your time will come.

[donthakiller]

By the way, Malka and Qadir it seems like you have forgotten the real discussion and a argue between you to has started. Forget the "thing" between you 2 and start to have a grown convorsation again please.

[donthakiller]

Also the KDP is in fact a democratic party, but they have to work to get 100% democratic, because they are new to this.

[donthakiller]

you all have to stop this fucking nonsence, kurds and assyrians got some problems, but it is nothing against the insurgents and Al Q. in Iraq, just a few days ago at least 500 kurdish yezidis got killed in Mosul, is this more important or that kurds and assyrians start fucking on eachothers asses just because saddam is away? Assyrians when bombing of innocent children, kidnapping, drive by`s, executions, hitmurders etc stops in Iraq then you can start complaining on kurds.

[MalkaDanno]

who is jepordizing the areas of the newly "liberated" areas....Kurds havent liberated Nineveh Plains, so i dont get what u mean :S. Who is the people hostile to kurds....and I didnt make it up, if u want research it, shabacks and ezidies have sided with assyrians for leaving Nineveh Plain autonomous for minorities. and for the last time....KDP is suppose to be democratic!! stop making it sound like a dictatorship!!

[Toniito]

I think its time for us to settle down and live as humans. So when u say sometimes u dont trust us assyrians, why is that? Its should be the opposite. U can trust us as long as we can trust u.

[Qadiri1]

because in the middleast we don't trust anybody but ourselves-specialy not those who are for a united Iraq with a strong central government.

[Toniito]

Hey Qadiri it was u kurds who turned ur back on us noth vice versa ok. And ive told u before if u kurds didnt listened to the turks way back we would both have our rights and nothing that happened to our people and ur people would have happened. Yes we are christians and we walk the walk of peace now. I mean threw whole of our history we have been to war.

[Qadiri1]

walk the walk of peace?what else can you do?it's not like you've got any other options!!!what happened in the past is irelevant now..we can't do anything about yesterday but we can do something about tomorrow.

[MalkaDanno]

Qadiri1, do the kurds want Nineveh Plain as well?

[samuel1776]

Dude, I left town for two days and came back and you're still talking. I already told you, good for you, Enjoy everything you have while it last because things will not remain like this for long. And please, stop the messages, you're giving me a fucking headache.

[Qadiri1]

want?Nineveh plains is ours.

[MalkaDanno]

Nineveh Plains yours?? umm no..rite now you only have Dohuk, Irbil, Slemania provinces, umm, and nineveh plain isnt in any of those...

[Qadiri1]

Yes thats right,but soon there will be a referedum-where the people of the other kurdish provinces can vote and join the Southern Kurdistan or remain with Iraq and since we are a majority the outcome is easy to predict !

[MalkaDanno]

kurds majority in Nineveh Plains....umm no they arent, assyrians are majority there man.

[Qadiri1]

How can you be a majority anywhere when your population is less than 200thusand???We are well over 5milion i Southern Kurdistan alone.Nineve plains is loacated in the area near Mosul and we all know that Mosoul has a large kurdish population.

[MalkaDanno]

hah, you have just clearly shown to me that u dont know the geography and demographics of that area. assyrians arent less than 200 000, they are 4x more than that in iraq think 800 000. and Nineveh plain is majority assyrian, another thing that u have no clue about. Finally Kurds do not make a large enough population in Mosul to have any drastic affect.

[Qadiri1]

So you are about one milion then?how come your're not represented accordingly in the iraqi parliament?your population is not that high-we are not a majority in Mosul but when the province borders are redrawn we will have the whole of Southern Kurdistan-I DO KNOW THE DEMOGRAPHICS it is you assyrians who do not accept the reality on the ground.Doesn't matter where it's loacated we will use force if necessary-our Yezidis live there.

[MalkaDanno]

umm yes, I got my source that we are 800000+ from CIA website, can u plz give me a source were u got ur 200000- source from plz so we can see which is more reliable :D.

[Qadiri1]

I Don't care who your source is,that number is incorrect!if it weren't you would have been represented accordingly in the iraqi parliament.We and the arabs are the two main groups in the country.

[MalkaDanno]

well i will take CIA infromation over some guy on youtube anyday. also what tone with KDP, im only saying the truth....the truth hurts eh, and there is ALOT of proof, not b/c you havent heard of it/looked for it, doesnt mean its not there. well so far shabacks and yezidis will support assyrians more (thats what ive heard at least). + "every traitor will be delt with in such a scenario." stop making KDP sound more like saddam's Iraq please.

[Qadiri1]

Sure if it suites your case..!Nothing has been proven nor recognized.We cannot allow certain things..like letting others jeopardize the future of our newly liberated areas.Allowing that to happen would be an insult to our martyrs.The Yezidis are kurds and if they would cooperate with somone considered hostile towards us then they would be considered traitors.And traitors have no place in Kurdistan!

[MalkaDanno]

about the election well thats very easy to explain, first of all not all assyrians vote for Zowaa, there are many assyrian political party which weaken each other. Also Many voted for the KDP. Many in baghdad and basra were forced not to vote or vote for certain political parties. And finaly there is the proof that KDP threw away thousands of ballots of assyrians from Nineveh Plain (Zowaa supporters) so their vioces where never heard.

[Qadiri1]

I don't like your tone about the KDP,they rule within the law.Don't blame us for u not being united.There are no prof of anything !

[MalkaDanno]

woah so kurdistan is going to "force" themselves on unwilling people....but i thought it was going to be a democracy...stop contradicting yourself please. Also what you dont know is that Yezidis and Shabacks in Nineveh Plain are unified with assyrians. Only a couple of months ago i saw on Ishtar (kurdish funded) that yezidis, dhabacks, and assyrian said they were united to make nineveh plain an atonomous region for minorities :D.

[Qadiri1]

Yes there will be democracy within the borders of Southern Kurdistan..no nineveh plain or mumbo jumbo..no dream land..The Yezidis cannot and will not deny their kurdishness-Kurds belong in Kurdistan,every traitor will be delt with in such a scenario.

[MATTUKA]

bro ur fuked theres like 1 .2 million u fuck where u get 800 thousand poeople always get the population of asssyrians in iraq its close to 1.2 million

[ashor4488]

first of all can u plz stop swearing MATTUKA?

and yes the fact is that we only have 800 000 left in Iraq. the 1.2 million you are speaking of was before the war started. Ever since the war about 40% of christians have fled iraq which really brings down the population of Assyrians in iraq. i suggest you research it.

[samuel1776]

Remember, nobody stays on top forever. At once we were the mightiest military power in the world, the most powerful empire ever and today we live under the mercy of the Kurds that's why I tell you things change and no one stays glorious forever.

[Qadiri1]

No you're right,the Median empire was one of greatest in the world and now we are being cornered by mongols and semetic people..unfortunate,..but remember who crushed that empire of yours...however today things are different you are an island in the middle of a sea of extremist-your interests are best served if you are loyal to us.

[samuel1776]

I'm not fucking talking about the Median Empire, I'm talking about the Assyrian Empire, for now you're right this is the situation but loyal to no one but Assyria, we've never bent over for nobody, against all odds we've survived. Not too long ago we had you running in the mountains like mice, don't fucking underestimate people. As I said for now it is what it is.

[Qadiri1]

Mice?Remember these words:Median Empire,Cyaxares 612BC.Nineveh. We don't run,we stand and fight,we fought you and won,we fought saddam and won and we'll defeat the remaining enemies as well..that gives me the right to undererestimate everybody.Conventional,biologi­cal,Chemical weapons..none of that can beat us..it's all proven.

[AK519CK]

Wow u say it like it was just the Median empire that was at war With Assyria, How many other fucking people were there? Medians played a small part in the fall of Assyria,

And who the fuck made up the rumour that kurds were medians anyway? How do u get from "Median" to "Kurd" wtf..?

[AK519CK]

median empire one of the greatest in the world

hahaahahahhahahaha

ahahahahahaahahahahahahahaha

ahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaha­hahahaa

ahahahahaha

OMFG i just spilled my drink everywhere

ahahahaah

[Qadiri1]

No no no we are where we are because of restless and fierce resistance and fighting against the impossible.Sure we got outside help but only when our ''allies''needed to look after their interests.Powers that want us there for now?Kurdistan is ours,from Ilam to Mahabad,Kerkuk,Mosul,Diyarbaki­r,Arbil..all of it..not for now but for ever..!

[MalkaDanno]

wow both of you are saying very idiotic stuff, y dont you talk about how our people can live in peace with each other than prove to each other who is a better fighter.

[Qadiri1]

It's not idiotic,and we kurds don't have to prove anything-history does that very well.

[donthakiller]

we both have people with brains who can figure out better ways then saddam or turks etc our people have good hearts and nice brains therefore I am 100% sure kurdish and assyrian problems will be solved on a peaceful way and everyone will be happy

[MalkaDanno]

You are right, the only way for peace in the north is for assyrians and kurds to stop fighting. But tell me...when have assyrians ever murdered kurds, or have been hostile towards them. the only place where assyrians can express themselves is through politics discussions like this. I dont see this as an argument, but rather 2 different views being discussed :). and hopefully our people do end up living in peace whereever it may be, i think everyone agree that both our people need it desperatly

[Qadiri1]

Yes I agree,you guys are disliked cuz you are christian and we cuz we are kurds,do you really think that the arabs and turks will respect your rights?You have to stop waving the Iraqi flag and realize that you are being used as pawn in a game aimed to occupy Kerkuk and Mosul,we as suspicious as you are,that's why we sometimes don't even trust you assyrians !

[donthakiller]

But one thing I want to make clear, forget this nonsense let us instead talk and explain our problems and solve these true a democratic and human way, not through chaos and war and hating each other I think both kurds and assyrians got brain enough to solve every problem on a good way. Just think kurds and assyrians, we kurds can not just chase assyrians to the sea?? or opposite assyrians can not just chase kurds into the sea??

[donthakiller]

No people have helped jews more then kurds then maybee americans and jews themself. From a long time ago to new ages kurds has always helped kurdish, babylonian and persian jews to escape from these empires so they could live in peace. Also I do not think you are 100% right about KDP that they make the lifes off assyrians who doesnt support them unpleasant, maybee these assyrians support baaths or does something forbidden, but I can not say much about this because I do not know much about it.

[donthakiller]

I know some kurds did this they joined OTHERS and killed not assyrians because they were assyrians, but assyrians because they were christans just like armenians. I can not say I support those people just because they were also kurds but this was a very small number off kurds so please do not say kurds you can say turks with kurds, arabs with kurds or iranians with kurds, but not only kurds because MOST KURDS ANY TIME in the history we have supported all religions and helped them.

[donthakiller]

Enough arguing. I think you both do not realize actually how many of your people has died or you would not argue about something like this. Let Assyrians also have their own region or country or whatever they want, they have lived in bad days like kurds. Malka I just can not agree with you how big you trying to do this kurd massacred assyrians thing.

[camry1971]

Assyrians have been beaten by the MEDIAN(Kurds) / Babylonian allied forces in 612 BC , so that led to the fall of Nenevah in the hand of the Medians(Kurd) and the end of their occupying empire .

[MalkaDanno]

ummm...I dont get what that has to do with nething...

[camry1971]

I dont know what you dont get?, but I truely dont get your point if you have one , what is (nething) ? you need to learn English

buddy ...read fiction books,News paper or watch CNN headline news to learn and improve your english language .

[MalkaDanno]

lol thanx for proving my point which is that u dont have a point lol...b/c all u responded is about sumthing stupid, and didnt asnwer the question itself :D

[camry1971]

Okl w Ishrab..did you get that one ? LOL

[MalkaDanno]

thanx for proving my point again :D which is that u cant handle an educated discussion

[KurdeZazaAlevi]

there is a Kurdistan.we have our own army 250.000 tausend peshmerga forces our own parliament and everything.Kurdistan is the reality.Long Live Kurdistan biji Kurdistan

[DoNotTalk2Me]

If I were you Id go read your own history. You know Kurds have commited more atrocities to Assyrians then Arab Muslims??? Yeah seriously now get a life.

[donthakiller]

yes assyrian dont need any own state in kurdish provinces we love everyone who live among us and if there are any kurds against you I think they should get punished by the police...I dont care even if you want you own country in middle off the kurdish areas we have both been trough horrible things and should be friends and stay together biji kurds and biji assyrians as well

[MalkaDanno]

Beutifully said donthakiller, if only all felt the same way you did, that region would not be in the situation it is now :D

[Qadiri1]

you sound like a jash.....?inviting natinnalists to invade our land coloured in red because of all the martyrs who gave their lives(including many of my relatives)..what the hell did the assyrians do ? they collaborated with Saddam and the turks,no police can punish me, down there my tribe is the fucking police !

[MalkaDanno]

Assyrians are #1 martyrs in the world, no one has suffered more than assyrians due to thier culture/religion. Assyrians collaborate with Saddam??? clearly you are not educated about Anfal campaign, or you just care about kurdish suffering in Anfal Campaign. Assyrians with Turks HHAHA. Funny its the kurds who are the best buddies of turks when they both kill assyrians. in 1840's 1890's and WWI

[Qadiri1]

ooo please we are talking about present time- no one ever heared anything from you back then,the kurdish regional government in southern kurdistan lets you live in peace and you bite the hand that is feeding and side with the arabs and the turks in their claime on kirkuk and mosoul-do so and face the outcome !

[MalkaDanno]

Qadiri1, Kurds are letting us live in peace...you are half rite. Kurds are leting only the assyrians who support the KDP to live in peace, the rest are being treated like shit.

[MalkaDanno]

an example is my uncle, who is for Zowaa, and he graduated from the university and is an electrition, but he cant get a job b/c he doesnt support KDP, yet people much less qualified than him are getting his jobs, b/c they say they support KDP. THAT ISNT DEMOCRACY!

[MalkaDanno]

Another is when an assyrian raised money in USA, and built a small village for assyrians in northern iraq. When KDP heard of this they stopped all water and food supplies for the assyrians in that region. They didnt like it how someone else was building stuff rather than them. If they really wanted to help assyrians, why are they getting mad when someone else helps them.....Its because KDP are power hungry

[Qadiri1]

Where were all of this when Saddam controlled the area?why didn't you say or do anything?why are you so ungrateful?while you people chose the cowrads way we fought the one the largest armies in the world and liberated Kurdistan for all it's people and as soon as you get some freedom thanks to us and our martyrs u accuse us of being undemocratic?THE LAND BELONGS TO THOSE WHO FIGHT AND DIE FOR IT -others should be happy if allowed to even live there !

[MalkaDanno]

Well since the assyrians were massacared since the start of islam, recent massacares in 1840's by kurds, 1890's by kurds, WWI by kurds and turks, and 1933 by iraqis and kurds....the population is very very low.

b/c of those our population is really really low, we had no political, cultural, or military power to fight against saddam. MB if kurds hadnt genocided assyrians so much we would have enough people to fight

[Qadiri1]

there is no prof that we committed geonice against anyone-it is at least not recognized and cannot be proved!let's talk about today and the past 50years,it is in your interest to remain loyal to us because we are the ONLY ones in the middleeast protecting you,you are christian and you are the smallest minority in every aspect.

[MalkaDanno]

there is alot of proof, not b/c you have not heard of it doenst make it fiction. you saying that is as heartbreaking as me saying that the anfal campaign against the kurds is not true and cannot be proved.

if you are really interensted about reading about what kurds have done to assyrian in the past 150 years buy and read the book:

ASSYRIANS: from Bard Khan to Saddam Hussien. it has eye witness primary documents of massacares by germans, british, french, assyrians and many others.

[Qadiri1]

The anfal campaign did take place,has been proven and those who were responsible has been sentencet to death all thanks to our endless struggle and our martys!I'm not denying anything I'm just not interested in what took place centuries ago,your strategi and agenda should be adjusted to the new political order. You cannot compare the kurdish authorities with Saddam Hussein that's nonsense.

[MalkaDanno]

well what happend 150 yrs ago till now is a clear result of Assyrians of today. did u know that if the Assyrian genocide in WWI didnt happen the Assyrian Population would be 30 MILLION! yet today we are 3 millon. things that happen 100 years ago are still affecting assyrians today! yes assyrians are trying to adjust to a new political order. Zowaa is trying, but the KDP is not letting them enter....Democracy? and i never compared the kurds of today to Saddam...

[Qadiri1]

yes what happened then was unfortunate,no one handed us kurds anything on silver plates either,we suffered and still suffer repression and massmurder-that's why we cannot accept anyone lay claim to our lands!!Northern Iraq(southern Kurdistan) belongs to us -nobody has the right to turn back the time 2-3thousand years as some assyrians want to do.Some of you are adjusting but some are nationalist but lack the power to do anything themselves so they go for outside help.

[MalkaDanno]

P.S. the zowaa militia did fight against saddam, even though they had much less population, technology, and military capabilities than the kurds, they still managed to fight with kurds against saddam. And its zowaa party that today the KDP is perecuting against.

[Qadiri1]

you did not make any notable efort,in southern Kurdistan(northern iraq)only,we lost more people than the entire assyrian population in the whole middleeast,we invite you to live in peace on the land that we liberated, the least you can do is to show graditude instead of turning against us,the assyrians should not let themselves be fooled by the west because they are christian -without us the Islamic fundamentalist will finish you off !

[MalkaDanno]

its not that we didnt make a notable effort, its that we couldn't. once again b/c our population is very low, no political or military power (b/c of genocides).and Qadiri1 i know that kurds are the only onse that "help" assyrians in iraq. But as i said they only help those that vote for them.... Also they do not help assyrians b/c they are kind and have a heart, they help assyrians for their own self gain and land grabs.

[Qadiri1]

since you are a minority and kurds are majority and democracy is implemented the kurds always have the upper hand,in the long run it would be for your own good to rely on them,we don't "help"we are in no need of that,we don't need you to take back what's ours from anyone we have our politicians and our armed forces,everything we have has been won threw battles and bloodshed-not with the help of assyrians in any way!

[MalkaDanno]

dude im starting to think that you are not even reading my posts cause you are saying the exact same thing over and over again, and im sick of writing what im replying over and over again.

[Qadiri1]

The nationalist assyrians side with turkomans and arabs in the north to reduce the kurdish infuence as much as possible,this puts Kerkuk and Mosoul in jeopardy and everybody knows Kerkuk is not negotiable,we cannot allow it falling into anyones hands but the right owner!!Even during our great leader general Barzani Kerkuk was the issue that always led to war.

[Qadiri1]

I can not believe how ungrateful you people are,it is unbelievabale,so we are not kind and don't have a heart,that must mean we are cruel or something like that,there is nothing that prevents us from letting fundamentalist to finish what's left of you,but we take the great risk of protecting a christian minority during this dangerus time,we send our young men to enforce law and order-and you are still suspicious-what are you but a burden? I really admired and liked your people once !

[MalkaDanno]

dude who sed we are ungrateful?? hear this from me...Kurds do help assyrian, everyone knows that. But you have to look at who they help. they help only those who vote for KDP, while the others are not given nothing. A village which was pro zowaa had all their crops cut down, and well filled by peshmerge soldiers in order to drive the zowaa supporters out of the small village so that kurds can move in....

please actually read this post and not just skim over.

[Qadiri1]

Yes you are ungrateful,you think that you can get a selfrule in the nineve pleins and sieze the oppertunity to cooperate with arabs and turks that lay claim to kurdish lands,this is seen as betrayal,a dirty trick that has to matched by equal methods,anyone who showes hostility against us will be shown hostility,it is as simple as that!we are not afraid to give you more freedom,we are afraid you might let yourselves be fooled by arabs and turks like we were once !

[MalkaDanno]

Qadiri my friend, I never said we want self rule. All i and all assyrians want is to live in peace and go to church w/out it being bombed, and not being scared of kurdish militias stealing thier houses. All we want is peace, now, whether that is siding with kurds, arabs, turks, hindus whatever assyrians dont care, they only want peace. Rite now the best way to get peace is autonomous state in nineveh plain, so that's y assyrians want that

[Qadiri1]

you are free to go to church,the kurdish authorities are against terror! the kurdish militias are not stealing anything but are taking back what was ours from the arabs and turks.isn't that ironic,that your agenda is similar to that of the turks and arabs in the north?carving away the kurdish land piece by piece,it is everyones right to have some kind of integrity but one cannot claim something they haven't fought and died for.your demands come in a inappropriete time.

[Qadiri1]

your demands come in a inappropriete time,or is it in coordination with the others?the turks that claim kerkuk and arabs who want mosoul?your claims to our lands are not just,we fought for these areas, everybody else ran away,don't bother telling me about your low population and so on,what you should do is to join us and be loyal til we get the whole of the kurdish lands in the north and then you would naturally have your own''space'' !but if your agenda is hostile towards our goals...

[MalkaDanno]

it hurts me how you keep saying that only kurdish blood has been spilt. as i said if you want to read about the extent of assyrian suffering in recent history i gave you title of a book. and assyrians have twice been loyal towards kurds before....the result....massacares! But even now many assyrians are loyal to KDP, but this time they are sleeping with one eye open...i know thats bad...but can u blame them?

[Qadiri1]

yes I know that you haven't had an easy time as well but you have to forget the past and understand where your interests are best served,Our reaction towards hostility is not to blame either,we are in a more difficult seat than you are really,because we are a threat to 3other nations besides what's now Iraq. We must secure our position which is easier said than done.

[Qadiri1]

times have changed now,in the past we were fooled and told that we had to fight in order to secure Islams presence in the area,the younger generation of kurds are not as religius,now it is all politics,and I hope you relize that politics is as dangerus as threatning with arms,you don't have the firepower but you can start a fire by trying to implement agendas that in the long run will have negative effects..hope not though.

[donthakiller]

hey you many of my relatives including 2 of my uncles was sheheeds when they fought for kdp. I got familys who are ministers of ex police, shaheed association in duhok province etc, but I don`t play like I own the city. Even if you do not want assyrian to have their own region then you can talk like a smart man instead of a bitch

[Qadiri1]

You should be proud of your relavites who fought alongside our brave Peshmerga,but the fact is wheter you like it or not you DO NOT and will NOT own anything in OUR Southern Kurdistan,you are allowed to live there because of kurdish goodwill and love for peace.You are wellcome to live in peace-but we are the law-that part of Mesopotamia is a gift to us from Kyaxares and it will ALLWAYS stay that way!

[MalkaDanno]

so now tell me, when Saddam was in power and kurds wanted their own land, didnt he say something along those lines? How different are we that we do not deserve our own land while the kurds do??

[Qadiri1]

I think you are reffering to my reply to ''donthakiller''-yes saddam did say so and he tried everything to wipe us out but we resisted,we fought and died and finally prevailed!!The difference is that saddam denied us kurds everything-we are not doing that to you and still many of you would love to see a turkish inavsion of Southern Kurdisan carried out. What we did in past is history,today we take you under our wings and that is the thanks we get!

[samuel1776]

I admire your resistance and bravery against Saddam but most of the damage you had inflicted was on the iraqi soldiers that were there against their will. You killed innocent iraqi soldiers for what? To revenge against Saddam? We are the indigenous people of Iraq, You're not doing us a favor by letting us live in Northern Iraq, Northern Iraq belongs to us and we're not guests, so don't make it sound like you're doing us a favor by us living there.

[Qadiri1]

are u really that stupid or do you enjoy making an ass out of yourself?we killed innocent soldiers?how is a soldier innocent when he comes to invade a place that belonges to someone else?wars are fought between soldiers,just making sure you follow!the iraqi soldiers followed orders to invade our land and kill us and our peshmerga followed orders to protect and serve Kurdistan-we killed soldiers to protect our land our honor and our great kurdish nation.

[samuel1776]

Did I disrespect you in any way? The Iraqi soldiers were dragged out of their homes and sent to war just so you know, they didn't want to be there as much as you didn't want them. Nobody wants a Turkish invasion, we've had enough invasions. And no I'm not stupid.

[Qadiri1]

Yes,the iraqi soldiers cowardly murdered well over 250.000kurdish civilans in the 80:s alone. Their aime has always been to opress us because we are kurds,a different etnicity and a different race.Suppose that the soldiers were dragged out and started killing people (which they did)don't we have the right to defend ourselves?you portray them as peaceful angels that we brutally murdered,that is an insult to our rightful struggle for peace and freedome.

[samuel1776]

I see your point, you do have the right to defend yourself against any hostile enemy. I just don't like it when the Kurds make it sound like they're doing us a favor by letting us live there. We've been there longer than any other race in that country.

[Qadiri1]

Yes I bett you do.But we are doing you a favor,like it or not,it is simple facts,you are christians and you are a small minority with no political or military power and honestly nobody gives a damn about who has been there the longest.You are soft targets but we are protecting you.

[samuel1776]

I agree, keep in mind you are where you are today because of other powers that want you to be there for now. Things change a lot, Saddam was an American allie but when his time was up, the fucked him, Osama bin Ladin was an allie and he's on the other side now. In my life I have seen a lot of powerful people get knocked off so quickly and I have also seen very weak people emerge and go to the top. I have already told you, I admire what you've accomplished.

[MalkaDanno]

dude...what are u talking about?

[Qadiri1]

We liberated kurdistan no thanks to you,invite you to live in peace,respect your every needs and rights and you still go on and on about genocide this and genocide that and portay us and our politicians and leaders as barbarians-many of you would be happy if Southern Kurdistan fell into turkish hands,well I'd love to disappoint you cuz that is never gonna happen!

[MalkaDanno]

Qardi1 for the 100th time, I know kurds are helping us, they are giving us money to build churches and villages. But if i go live in iraq rite now, and say i am a follower of Zowaa party, i wouldnt get any benifits, no employment. But if i go there and say i support KDP i would be treated very well. That is my only issue rite now

[Qadiri1]

yes I know where you are going with this,the zowaa party is a nationalist party and many of its members prefer a turkish invasíon of Southern Kurdistan so they can support it and establish something of their own.KDP members,supporters and relatives of the peshmerga are entitled to benefits,they are the ones that made todays freedom possible.

[MalkaDanno]

lol Dude no one in Iraq wants turkish invasion....I dont know where u got that propaganda from, but zowaa for sure doesnt want turkish invasion. Do you think assyrians like turks??

[Qadiri1]

yes some do,I am sure that the majority of you would prefer turks over us,at least the supporters of the zowaa,and that is not acceptable,we cannot allow you to complicate the ruturn of Kerkuk into kurdish hands.I don't think you like you like turks but you dislike us more !what would you prefer,a turkish rule in Southern Kurdistan or the current kurdish government!?..honestly..

[tuberebaz]

Kurds and Assyrians are brothers. We will kick out all muslim fanatics from Kurdistan!!!

[lazistan61]

erakeema

kuzze diyate nim kurrre kahpa

[lazistan61]

what a state what did u do for the freedom

the kurds gave hunderts thousand of marthyrs what did u do? nothing....

u can live peacefully in kurdistan but if u try to have your state believe me no one can stop the kurds and the islamic kurds u will lose believe me

KURDISTAN FOREVER

[MalkaDanno]

lazistan61 have you ever wondered why the assyrian population is soo low!?!?! Pope John Paul II called our church the martyr's church b/c we have been the most continuously pericuted church. We lost 2/3 of our population fighting for our freedom in WWI. You cant tell us that we havent died for our freedom, no one has died more for their freedom more than assyrians, know your history and read what kurds have done to assyrians b4 posting nething like that

[MATTUKA]

but bro we have been killed b4 yes but we have killed bak stop sounding like pussies we kill they kill dont just say assyrians have been killed

[MalkaDanno]

tell me once (after we took christianity) when assyrians have massacared kurds for no reason...if its for self defence then there was a reason...ill be waiting...

[MATTUKA]

bro now ur sounding like a pussy dont do dat yea we did defend our selfs true true we never attacked

[DoNotTalk2Me]

You mean Turdistan ha Im american I can guarantee there will never be a Kurdistan.

[sargongabara]

L, Is it standz for looser? You koordee Iraq is not your country so get your facts correct read some history books read the bible..!opps you moslim don't know what that is. go back where you come from you broth filth to our home land ASSYRIA. wake up looser God is watching you you know who God id ha KOORDEE?

Kaya ATOOR:-)

[assyrian87]

This only includes Nestorian Assyrian in the North of Iraq, IMAGINE IF CHALDEAN-ASSYRIANS AND OTHER ASSYRIANS JOINED US AND WE BECAME UNITED. WE MUST UNITE AND THEN BE ABLE TO GET A STATE

[erakeema]

id be the state trooper

[Freedom4Assyria]

No nation has given so much and received so little then the Assyrian nation.