BTW people using words like usurper to describe Obama shows you don't understand the meaning. GW was far more an usurper based on the FLA results & scandal during his first run for office.
As to the numerous claims that the long form BC released is a fake give me a break people. Do you really think anyone would be stupid enough to release anything that wasn't legit knowing exactly how many people would be questioning it? Do you really think given the amount of media coverage the entire Birther fiasco has gotten that anyone would really be that dumb? Your lack of simple logic amazes me.
It's nice to see that the Birther ditz Oily Taint is no longer being paid attention to except by the inbred & delusional Birthers. The level of pure stupdity shown by these idiots is mind blowing. The fact they could never provide any actual proof (which wasn't a forgery) to support their idiotic claims says a lot about just how easy it is for some people to buy into baseless lies.
You've gotta hand it to the President's parents: it's not easy knowing forty years in advance that your son will become The Lion King and possess enough foresight to provide that kind of protection for their son. Alas, The Lion King is just a movie, so on this note I congratulate Orly Taitz for a job well done and hope she finds success and happiness in her new career writing science fiction. Or furnishing another useless conspiracy theory on JFK's assassination. More your speed, dingleberry.
@CorrosionX3 You're the one in denial. Do you actually believe an 18-yr-old American woman, who was 7 MONTHS PREGNANT and in a failing marriage, travelled--ALONE--all the way to a 3rd World African country (and in the early 1960's, no less!) to be with her SOON-TO-BE EX-INLAWS (who probably hated her) and give birth there? Use some common sense!
@GeorgiaKev It doesn't matter, his father was never a citizen, which means Obama is not a "natural born citizen" as intended by the "natural born citizen clause"
@CorrosionX3 There is no two-parent requirement to be a natural born citizen. That is fabricated birtherlore. Natural born citizen is not defined in the Constitution, and neither Congress (thru legislation) nor the Supreme Court (thru a ruling) has ever defined it as such.
Now, suppose a American woman gives birth to a child conceived from rape. The rapist is never caught and thus never identified. Decades later, the child runs for president? Does he/she qualify as an NBC?
@GeorgiaKev That's what the tem natural born citizen has always meant before it was an impediment to Obama's legibility. The word "is" is not defined in the Constitution either, you have to look at the working contemporary definition. Look at what John Bingham said about what it means to be "natural born citizen". The whole reason for the n.b.c. clause was that children of a foreigner (like Obama) couldn't become president.
Also his long form birth certificate is an amateurish forgery.
@CorrosionX3 It has never been established that a natural born citizen must have two citizen parents, you are only assuming it. Answer my question about a child conceived from rape whose father's identity, and thus nationality, is unknown. Is this child legally a natural born citizen?
@CorrosionX3 And as far as saying his long form BC is a forgery, that is nothing but an attempt by after-birthers to save face. It is not possible to determine if a document is forged by looking at a soft copy of it on a computer screen. Both Obama's long-form and short-form birth certificates were certified as authentic by the State of Hawaii, making them legal documents which every state is constitutionally required to honor (Article IV, Sec. 1, United States Consitution).
@CorrosionX3 You cannot tell if document has been altered simply by looking at a copy of it on a computer screen. And if the digital copy of the document was different from what was released and certified by the State of Hawaii as authentic, the state's DOH officials would have been screaming at the top of their lungs.
@CorrosionX3 and, If I know your type, you choose to believe anything that goes against majority public opinion, just for the sake of being a contrarian. If presented with any infromation that contradicts your opinion, you will pick it apart to the most mundane detail, unitll you find an obscure reason to debunk it. When told anything that supports your opinion, you accept it without question. Even supposeing it is fake, its a hell of a lot more convincing then the "Kenyan" one.
@CharlotteCastre Not necessarily, but in this case, it's the opinion of experts that the long form birth certificate that was released is a forgery, and being a Photoshop expert myself, I have checked the arguments for the forgery and I have concluded they were right... Obama is not the most secretive president about his past for no reason...
@CorrosionX3 Well, its refreshing to see some hint of a reaonable person in there. I've studied the arguements myself, they held alot more logical weight then Taitz but upon finding other PS experts' agruments AGAINST their case, and a little sleuthing of my own, I came t a much different conclusion. And, personally, I wouldn't call Obama the most secretive, but certainly the most repremended for it. I just dont understand why peple can't put this in the past, and focas on the real issues
@CharlotteCastre Because Obama is an usurper, he's sympathetic to marxists, appointed communists and maoists to his administration and he helped the Muslim Brotherhood like no other president did before.
All that and he's not even eligible to hold office... Pray to God he doesn't get to do it all over again without fear of reelection next time.
@CorrosionX3 ...ANNNND we're back to raveing lunatic, nice work. In my mind, Obama's only crime is not doing ENOUGH and just letting his opponents bully him around like wimp. you make all these grand accusations about his secret agenda,but if hes really that diabolical and manipulative: why hasn't he changed anything? You can sit in your dark corner, convinced that your privy to some great truth, and so much wiser then the sheep-like masses: when in truth,your just as ignorant and blind.
@CharlotteCastre Of course some people will just dismiss anything against their dear leader as "grand accusations" and ignore it.. The fact is that he did appoint communists (Van Jones) and maoists (Anita Dunn), we know that's where his ideology lies. And he did support the Muslim Brotherhood spring in Egypt and didn't support the real democratic uprising in Iran when he had a chance... that doesn't come out of a vaccuum, that comes from his ideology. You may agree with him, a lot don't.
@CorrosionX3 I'm well aware of the facts,but fail to see the scandel. I hate to be the one to tell you this: but this isn't the 1950's, the communist witch hunt is over. Personally, I think that a politically diverse house could have alot of advantages.As for Dunn, the accusations that she is a maoist were based on a statment she made in HIGHSCHOOL, one that was suppose to be ironic, hardly damning evidence. I respect people with different opinions, just not those who refuse to listen to reason.
@CharlotteCastre That's the problem, that you and others don't see the scandal. Chalk a victory to them the communists have succeeded into infiltrating the US government, the culture and education. As for Anita Dunn, nothing of what she said recently makes her look any more sane than she was in high school. I have no problem with different opinions, but sympathizing with communists, maoists and islamists is as bad as sympathizing with nazis. They should be marginalized, not hired by the WH.
@CorrosionX3 Thank you for your insight ,Mr. McCarthy. So, you say you dont have any problem with different opinions and yet immediately follow that with a list of exeptions. I feel like a should go on a flameing liberal rant about how uncalled for the Nazi comparison is, But I wont. This whole exchange is begining to feel like argueing with a yapping chihuahua. However, I will say this:I know your going to walk away convinced your right and never realize how much you dont know about the world
@CharlotteCastre To me there are 2 kinds of people, people who want to be left alone, and those who do not want to leave them alone... I'm in the first category, and communists, socialists, liberals and their ilk are in the 2nd category. If you want your failed economic policies, try them in your own life before imposing them on the rest of us.
@CorrosionX3 I intend to do just that. Although, as far as I can tell, your the one refuseing to leave people alone. No one is forceing you to change your way of life in... where do you live anyway? *checks YT page* ...Canada?! Look, I commend anyone who stays informed on global politics; but why put so much time and energy into hateing the president of a country you dont even live in? espeically when your own country is much more socialist(not a bad thing, in my mind).
@CharlotteCastre I don't hate him, I just think what he's doing is dangerous for all of us living in democratic countries.And as a graphic artist I was curious about the claim his long form birth certificate was forged and I verified it and saw that it was true, there is no way the PDF document we have seen on the WH website was a direct scan of something he took out of the archives. If he didn't want any doubts about it, he should have shown the microfilm to independent reporters instead.
Kerning point vetted ... set that in abeyance (aside), as first and foremost:, AGAIN, the most BLARING laser light focus for the informed and/or discerning is upon the piece-meal add-effect wrought of compiled donor "typography"aka typo-setting aka font selection: NO 1940's, 1950's or early 1960's (or for that matter ANY non-customized typewriter or heat block sets) would avail eg. the name Kapiolani Maternity, with "unique a's" characters formation; first A a non-match to others; get it ?
So you are saying the HI Dept. of health forged a birth certificate? That must be the case since they've verified it came from them. Since they are the agency that actually issues birth certificates that would be like the DMV forging drivers licenses or the US mint forging money--pretty stupid thing to believe.
What about the ridiculous forgery Obama posted? Not one document expert has come forward claiming it's real, many have shown it to be fake. But it does say his father was born in Kenya, Natural born, not quite. Obots are idiots.
I don't need to find a document expert. The State of Hawaii already attested to the authenticity of the document they issued. See also: Article IV Section 1.
A natural born citizen is simply a citizen at birth. If you were born a citizen, you are natural born.
@arrrogantlyignorant Why the hell do you keep referring to art.IV sec. 1 "Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state".
And, a natural born citizen is a citizen born of two citizen parents . "You don't need a document expert", your right.
@arrrogantlyignorant Exactly, you made my point, a PDF isn't a legal document. So what was the point of him posting something that's useless? He still hasn't shown his birth certificate. Nobody's seen the "original" he claims exists. And one person saying they saw it doesn't count.
"So what was the point of him posting something that's useless? "
What was he supposed to do? Lobby Congress for several billion dollars (not counting postage and envelopes) so he could order 300 million+ certified copies and have them mailed to all residents in the US?
No, he did what was feasible and released an image for the general public to look at.
The State of Hawaii has already attested to its authenticity. Article IV Section 1, remember?
The world has now all seen the LONG-FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE OF BARACK OBAMA! And because of it, Trump is now GONE. Along with EVERY BIRTHER's RIDICULOUS AND HUMILIATING LIE about the President. This zombie-Racist-Republican-movement is gone!
THEY'RE DEAD. GONE. And BURIED.
Begone Racists. INVENT ANOTHER LIE... Bah-hahaha. You were SO BURNED on this one, YOUR HUMILIATION WILL LIVE ON YOUTUBE FOREVER. What's a BIRTHER? Easy. BIRTHER = RACIST DOG.
Orly is a raving nutcase with zero credability. Amazes me how many braindead inbred idiots continue to support her. She has yet to provide any proof whatsoevver to back up any of her claims & every case she's had dealing with this issue has been thrown out of court. She's a joke.
Birthers are brain dead inbred kkk members. They should be sent toTaliban held territory in Afghanistan with anti Islamic placards hanged on their necks !
As to being 'in for a battle', every action brought to court on this issue has been laughed out of court because of the ridiculously phony and flimsy . Orly Taitz is clearly a attention seeking nut case, and that is exactly how she was treated in court. Her law suit was laughable, malicious, and frivolous, and she will be severely fined if you continues to persue it.
You can whine & cry & pee your pants all you want, but you haven't got a leg to stand on.
I think you are standing a little too close to the paint fumes.
The Certificate on-line is not a legal original, it is a copy for convenience. Obama has produced better birth records than George Bush, & has proven his citizenship to the gov't satisfaction. So quite whining.
His birth records are on file at the court house in Honolulu, those are the OFFICIAL LEGAL Birth Records that every American provides when they are needed. Those are the exact documents you or G.Bush would provide.
Obama's lunatic fringe "FAKERS" can't make up their minds. First they show us one forgery and swear it's real and original and now they produce another forgery with the same claims. These "FAKERS" sure are a confused lot. I really don't think these "FAKERS" get enough fiber in their diets.
The Official Legal Birth Certificate is on record at the Court House in Honolulu, that Official Legal Birth Record COMES FROM THE HOSPITAL RECORD.
Obama has provided the Official Legal Court House Birth Certificate, and his Official Legal Hospital Birth Certificate, no citizen born on US soil can provide better documentation than that. There are witnesses, the news announcements, people who knew his family, Obama's records far outstrip George Bush's.
@blueboyblue Nope, another forgery, just like the first one you "FAKERS" produced. You "FAKERS" really need to make up your minds and stop letting Obama make fools out of all of you. But, I guess that's why "FAKERS" voted for him in the first place, cuz they certainly didn't know any thing about him except he was only half White. Say, why don't you "FAKERS" finger-paint the next one, since you are already finger-painting in your own shit!!
Are you really that delusional? You can't produce better birth records than Obama has. Even prominent Republicans & Conservatives, have say this is a dead issue.
But the marginal FLAKES simply can't let it go. The fact is, Obama has produced BETTER birth records than George W Bush did.
I say, George Bush was born in Mexico - prove me wrong.
I'm sorry but the more you rant & rave, the more you establish the 'Birthers' as a bunch on nut jobs intent on creating a distraction.
@blueboyblue I am not so "delusional" that I try to get people to believe that 2, totally different birth certificates are originals. DUHH. The issue is far from dead and the latest (Adobe Photoshop) creation is a fake. Looks like FAKERS are in for a battle. Are you a member of the Flat Earth Society, too??
@kamphwagon1 Hey "bud", since I'm not an expert on the Bible, could you please point to its reference to a "flat earth". Seems to me if the Bible promoted the idea of a flat earth, the "FAKERS" would read it daily and there would be no more lying about Obama's birth place, and no more forgeries to try and back up FAKERS lies. Please don't forget to show me the Bible's reference to a flat earth. thanks, bud!
@kenzo5716 LOL haven't you ever hered of the dark ages where any sience was considerd hericey by the church ,yeah that was back in the day when they considerd the earth flat & the sun revolved arround the earth, being branded a heritic could get you a hot date with the iron madien... BTW religon is chock full of fakers as you call them ,it's all based on faith ,when consulting Websters it's akin delusion , look the two up ......
@kamphwagon1 I see, you're talking about the Catholic Church, which is not based on the Bible, but the "Catechism". I thought for sure you said the Bible supported a flat earth. Perhaps you should re-read your original post to me, eh? Please point me to scripture and verse as I stated to you earlier that I am not a Bible expert. Thanks.
@kenzo5716 HA HA you meen to tell everone here you don't know who authored the bible ,the same one that every christian uses ?? I'l give you a clue , what was the first empire to have christianity as their state sponserd religon... Duhh the Romans, hence the Roman Catholic church there the ones who put the bible togeather they call it cannonized ,picking and choseing scripture & verse from ancient scriblings under the supervision of a Roman Empreor whom commissioned it .....
@kamphwagon1 HA HA yourself, ignorant FAKER. Christianity existed long before Constantine (the real first pope) merged paganism with some Christian teachings and called it a religion. The Bible was not put together or written by Catholics. BTW, "canonized" (learn to spell!) is when the "Catholic Church", not the Bible, declares a deceased person a saint. This has NOTHING to do with writing the Bible, you moron. Lets not lose sight of this FORGED birth certificate you FAKERS defend.
@kenzo5716 They also call the writeings canon as well cluster fuck, the first orginized religon was catholic moron ,there was no bible prior to to the Roman Catholics ,christians yes but no bible fucktard...Sounds like you get your biblical info from Oily as well LMFAO...Need I repeat that no credible sorce has proven the copy a forgery'' BIGOT '' just fundie cluster fucks whom ride the Tatiz loseing train.........
@kamphwagon1 oooo.... foul and obscene language. BTW, the Bible was written over a period of 1400 - 1800 years by more than 40 different authors. The first five books of the Old Testament (known as the Pentateuch or Torah) was written by Moses during the forty years that the children of Israel wandered in the wilderness (1450 - 1410 B.C.). King David's son, Solomon is credited with writing Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, and Song of Solomon. Silly Fool ! You wreak of ignorance and stupidity.
@kenzo5716 The tora isn't the old testament, and none of the authors were liveing when the old testament was written by the Romans who got the choice of what was allowed or not allowed in the old testament that christians carry to church every sunday , it's full of nonsense, jiberish, .incest all in the name of a sky daddy, a virtural book of fiction...........
@kamphwagon1 The "Torah" (learn to spell). They are Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. However, Nowhere in the Bible, Old Testament or New Testament were ANY of the authors described as "Catholics" and NOWHERE in the Bible can you show me otherwise. Additionally, Though you have tried desperately to avoid the subject, your original post to me stated "Flat Earth Society " only in the bible bud, only in the bible..........." Show me scripture and verse. u have NOTHING!
@kenzo5716 You are the fucktard whom seems to ignore whom authored the bible just another RW racist ethinic bigot who thinks he can rewrite history with his box of crayons , who has yet to show any credibe proof other than here say, inuindo roumor or the word of delusional woman that the BC is a forgery if your so sure why don't you donate to Oily Tatizs cause and put your money were inept mouth is , I'm sure she needs some cash to pay her frivlous law suit fines LMFAO.......
@kamphwagon1 Here we go with the foul mouth again. You're backed into a corner with absolutely NO PROOF for anything you say, so the only thing you can do is get sewer mouthed.
The racists and bigots are those who voted for Obama because of his skin color, since they sure as heck didn't know anything else about him.
@kenzo5716 Your the moron in the corner along with Oily ,with no credibllity to your ignorant claims your the FAKERS youv'e been calling everyone else . LOL every one knows your a racist & a bigot your the first to bring up skin color and try to play the reverse race card with skin color .... it's been like playing a chess game with a 4 year old and you just shoved a pawn up your own ass...... Just like Taitz and her frivlious suits useing the BC to promote a racist agenda .........
@kamphwagon1 Child, you made statements, which people can read here. When I simply asked you to back them up with credible documentation, you turn to foul and obscene "ghetto language", and attempt to divert away from the subject .. You supported an illegal alien for pres based on your bigoted and racist ideology , defend attempts at forging birth records, because you and the FAKERS are in too deep to back up now. You are all mouth, no substance, and ignorant to boot. You can't even spell!.
@kenzo5716theFAKER Yep just like a chess game to expose the racist troll bigot makeing outlandish claims with no credible proof to back any of it ,see your not the only one that knows how to play the troll game of chess.... And gusse what it all came form your mouth , now go sit in the corner with the rest of the inept bigots ,Iv'e accomplished what I set out to do expose you for the racist bigot you are !.........
@kamphwagon1 You're all mouth, no substance. You are a racist and bigot and chose to support a liar and deceiver. You can't back up what you say and resort to your sewer mouth as a defense. No wonder you voted for an illegal alien and defend 2 fake documents in a feeble attempt to justify the lies. Fakers are all the same.
@kenzo5716 " I see, you're talking about the Catholic Church, which is not based on the Bible,".......who do you think put the bible together? what a stupid fucking christian
@kenzo5716 hey if your so sure that its a fake, take the pdf to the fbi office near you, and have their forensic doc expert look it over. if its shown to be a forgery i will give you 1000 dollars, if its legit you pay me. lets test your convictions
@noliesundead Wow, are you behind the times. This second forgery (remember the first one?) has already been submitted to the FBI and criminal charges have been filed. A judge has also ordered "discovery" in the matter and attorneys , along with forged document experts are working on this now. Gee, no wonder you FAKERS voted for an illegal alien! DUHHHH.....DUHHH!
@kenzo5716 "This second forgery (remember the first one?) has already been submitted to the FBI and criminal charges have been filed"....oh really? care to cite where you got that bit of information? (i know you won't cause your pulling this out your ass, ut hey you may surprise me)
@kamphwagon1 FAKERS have a real problem on their hands. They now have a second forgery to defend, while still trying to get over the first piece of FAKERY.
FAKERS should really try to worry more about things like the Bush/Obama warmongering for Israel and Obama's monumental transfer of America's wealth (TRILLIONS!) to Banking oligarchs and their cronies.
@kamphwagon1 No one is claiming it's the original he he ... Somthing wrong with your rational thought process or are you so lame you can't understand my last post .... Geeze how many times do you fundie morons have to be told the the issueing state retains the ORIGIONAL... Does the word copy someway not fit into your thought process.. Theres yet to be a credible sorce to prove the copy a fake, only a racial ethenic religous bigot would subscribe to the Taitz birther BS !............
@kenzo5716 - "No he has not. He has produced another forgery."
That is something you CAN NOT and WILL NOT prove, but cause it is a crock of Bull Dung.
The records he provided are the same records that every person born on native sold provides. These are the OFFICIAL and LEGAL for all purposes Birth Records. Endless whining, crying, and peeing your pants will not change that.
Randi Rhodes often nails geo-political matters with incisive commentary, and, to say the least, with a particularly appealing charm. WHEN is she going to get around to faithfully servicing TRUTH regarding the foundational BOGUS CLAIMS, based upon BOGUS DOCS of A 'Bomination. Why would I expect such a thing from RANDI(?); because, she has ardently corrected glaring information gaps; she clearly embraces the CONSTITUTION: Randi, kindly PREVAIL: we TRUST you 4thESTATE!
SEE: General P. Malaise, online: One type of deep-level DOC ANALYSIS—SEE: Obama Birth Certificate Scam? 2011-04-27 Obama.mp4—There you will find EXHAUSTIVE WITHIN ONE DISCIPLINE LINKS … comprehensive perusal (means to study carefully), parsing certain of the FED GOV POSTED PDF, A ‘Bomination’s “Certificate”, an electronic file whose attributes render it a BOGUS DOC: “BARRY NEEDS TO VACATE OVAL OFFICE | NO NWO!” SEE: pajamasmedia site’s analytics; SEE: kdenninger ‘TUBEs
OCR posits: FAIL!(A)One PAYOLA used his redacted German Passport—to garner kudos for his "cleverness"; thinking outside-of-the-box: a spent and cliché tactic—sans LOGIC :: Instead, one could merely REPLICATE…FED GOV's very process, as CONTROL;(B)FLATTEN & "SAVE AS", so-called OBAMA FILE…AFRESH; simply reprocess it, using OCR apps array;(C)Should yield a like file/s structure: FAIL;(D)POST '67 SELECTRIC TYPE FACE! SEE: Obama Birth Certificate Scam? 2011-04-27 Obama.mp4 SEE: pajamasmedia
WHITEHOUSE IMPOSTURE BARRY!: is Obama’s actual name: Check w/ BLACK PASTOR, MANNING details lies on 'TUBE—no wiggle room—TRUMP handles a nest of dumb-bell brainwashed ninnies and background's "clapping cows"...“Trump on TV’s The View Obama Birth Certificate”: nails circular "reasoning": SEE: kdenninger ‘TUBEs, DOC ANALYSIS; SEE: ORLY; SEE: Military Man Refuses To Deploy Till Obama Proves He's a Natural-Born Citizen - and Wins! SEE: Lieutenant Colonel Terrence Lakin, too!
Gorgeous, a la Nefertiti, Dr. Orly Taitz; Major Cook ::’Hm .....bests "sweetie-goody-goody-want-to-be-sophist" aka George Noory blithers--COAST-to-COAST FM, towing NWO's scripted "explication" for the towers ... redundant FOX's | NYT's latest CONTENT promulgates FALSITY... despite President George Bush's documented ASSERTION that neither CIA, NSA, FBI nor any other AGENCY linked "boogieman GOLDSTEIN" to "towers attack"….yawn; SEE real news: Atty ORLY TAITZ vs Judge LAND
Orly exudes rare beauty -- that of the ancient 10 Tribes [neither Dan nor David Houses: non-Canaanite lineage]; as if a daughter of Ramses II; Nefertiti: elegant, feline eyes...charming personality--incisive logic--a wonderful Jewess; a wondrous person...knows about OLDEST US of A AGENCY’s Machinations, of the Neo-coned-State Department: its International Institute of Education-IIE: its grooming recalcitrant "talent" world-wide, from junior high-age: get it? Handles the cow
@LogicCheck i dont think you have any idea how insane your posts look to any rational human being. you seriously need the help and guidance of a good Psychotherapist
I'm conservative but I'm not a birther. I believe 100% Obama was born in Hawaii because his mother would want her son to be born in America & take advantage of all of the benefits of being American.
This reporter is obviously worker for the left wing media -- which is MOST of the media. There is so little OBJECTIVE reporting nowadays. These shills say what they are told to say.
@rfwelsh He's a shill because he refuses to buy into Oily's unfounded bs? Oily has yet to provide any proof to back her claims, appears to have no clue how the US legal system works, was caught telling people to lie under oath & is slandering the President. You're a shill if you believe anything this hideous skank says. She's the worst type of scum there is. Someone needs to give her a dirt nap.
Check out what the BLACK PASTOR, MANNING details about "Barry" aka "Obama" here on the TUBE -- no wiggle room there -- TRUMP handles this nest of dumb-bell brainwashed ninnies, and the background's "clapping cows" .... match this brood of loud mouths and their circular "reasoning": BARRY IS IMPOSTURE!
Wow I just went to whitehouse.gov and downloaded the long form birth certificate Obama released 4-27-2011 . It is indeed a digitally compiled and created document. Not a scan of a real piece of paper.... I am calling it a forgery. I know a little about this sort of thing. I loaded it into my computer and saw with my own eyes that the creator of this forgery forgot to flatten the image.
Flatting a document is kind of like taking two super imposed images and making them as one with each other so they can no longer be separated. The program allows me to hide any or all of the 11 layers. each layer has different text on it.
Its was forged because Obama wanted us to obsess over this birther thing to draw attention away from something more important. He did say he had more important things to do in is speech. We must be extra vigilant as to what the powers that be are up to when this forgery gets main stream news. And us truthers must spread the word.
Maybe the creator of this forgery is a true American and did not flatten the document (combine the layers) on purpose in order to expose Obama. I hope he has a safe place to hide!
@noliesundead but in that other video why is she in video confrencing from tel Aviv . i asked the same question their and a guy said yeah to my same question their.
David is so damn gay, the guy is a little fudge packer. Watch his mannerism when he raises the question about the Muslim driver. These MSNBC people are all trash talkers. They are incapable of objective journalism. LOSERS! They left-wing journalist are fighting for their life and will go to any ends to destroy anyone who challenges and exposes them for their corrupt journalism
ok just let me ok just let me ok just let me talk,i want to talk and you wont let me talk ok can i talk oh how much time do i have to talk i wish you would let me let me let me talk ok can i talk i just need to talk do i have any time left to talk ok ok ok ok ok let me talk
Up there with the Climate Change denialists - in the Australian lying Liberal and National Party's league lead by the village idiot himself - Tony Abbott. COMPLETE propaganda nutters.
THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY HARBORS RACISTS... Be aware of that when you vote in 2012 and don't fall for their lying lips that tell people whatever they want to hear in order to get elected... They have a very evil and FAKE agenda...
She just got owned and booted off the show by Lawrence O Donnell. She's an idiot. She's trying to talk but giggling and Lawrence was, 'get her off, you're fired, go play with Donald'. This bitch is a clown. 'OK...huh...OK'. She's debating citizenship, you can't understand this bitch. Deport her back to the Soviet Union or wherever the fuck she came from. OK... OK... you're a joke.
Who here saw the interview on MSNBC just five minutes ago where after she literally had seen the documents firsthand she didn't even address the issue. She got kicked of the show by the pissed off host of The Last Word. I guess once crazy always crazy...
His MOM is a U.S. citizen so It DOES NOT matter if he was born in the U.S. or not. He could've been born on the moon and still be considered a U.S. citizen.
@Royaldragon2174 I do not know if that is true. My Mom is American and my Dad is Canadian. I am a dual Canadian and American citizen and was always told that I could never be president because I was born in Canada. I will have to do some research.
Love how the Birther scum r so stupid they refuse to face reality. Every case dealing with this issue has been thrown out of court. They have no proof to back their claims whatsoever. Obama posted his BC online years ago.
The Appeals Court slapped Taitz with a $20,000 fine for wasting the court's time with stupid law suits against the elected President of the United States. Taitz said that Obama's policies present a "clear and present danger to Israel" and compares his Administration to Nazi's! Her interests lie clearly with Israel and not with America, as she has displayed time and time again. She should go back to Israel if that country matters to her so much, rather than causing turmoil for Americans.
Taitz sounds like a chicken being plucked. She should know something about "fake" - like her unaccredited, on-line "law" degree - not recognized by the American Bar Assoc. All her pro-Israel, anti-Obama comments are evidence that her concerns are more for Israel than US. She is entitled to her (warped) opinion, but she should let Americans concerned about the US address issues, rather than impose her ridiculous birther nonsense on us, as a pretext for Israeli concerns. Taitz is that transparent.
Congressman, Abolitionist, "Architect of the 14th Amendment" John Bingham 37th Congress 2nd Session House of Representatives 1862
Who are natural born citizens?
All persons born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens. Gentlemen can find no exception to this statement touching natural born citizens
Supreme Court Chief Justice Melville Fuller speaks: Considering the circumstances surrounding the framing of the Constitution,-- it is UNREASONABLE TO CONCLUDE that "natural-born citizen" applied to everybody born within the geographical tract known as the United States, irrespective of circumstances,...
.. THE CHILDREN OF FOREIGNERS, happening to be born to them while passing through the country [ARE NOT] ELIGIBLE TO THE PRESIDENCY.
@kiiifute1 THE CHILDREN OF FOREIGNERS, happening to be born to them while passing through the country [ARE NOT] ELIGIBLE TO THE PRESIDENCY.....well the supreme court says otherwise, US v Low Hong. remember it does not matter what 1 justice says, its the collectives opinion that is what is the interpretation. maybe you should take a Criminal Justice class
Oily is the worst type of scum around. She's a dentist with an online law degree. Every case she's had has been thrown out due to her complete lack of evidence. She's unable to back up any of her claims and is constantly wasting txpayers money with her bs. Obama showed his BC before he was elected. Stop drinking the poison Kool Aid Birther sheep.
She is so fuking stupid. Both articles do NOT list people who were just issued Birth Cerficates, it was a listing of BABY'S JUST BORN IN HONOLULU HAWAII. Plus the newspapers did NOT wait around for someone to apply to have his name listed, they get the information from hospitals, clinics, ect. where the birth takes place. This lady is so fucking stupid.
The Birthers are 100% right and are not fringe, because they represent the core of 60% + of Americans who believe that there is a question with Obama's citizenship status and thus his eligibility to serve. Those people who think there is no question are ignorant, or are protecting Obama and are the minority. This is poll-numeric fact.
Click on my name right now, GStarzToday, and go to video 7 to get owned on this issue by the birthers. Learn a thing or two. They're right.
BTW people using words like usurper to describe Obama shows you don't understand the meaning. GW was far more an usurper based on the FLA results & scandal during his first run for office.
psychohorrorfan 2 weeks ago
As to the numerous claims that the long form BC released is a fake give me a break people. Do you really think anyone would be stupid enough to release anything that wasn't legit knowing exactly how many people would be questioning it? Do you really think given the amount of media coverage the entire Birther fiasco has gotten that anyone would really be that dumb? Your lack of simple logic amazes me.
psychohorrorfan 2 weeks ago
It's nice to see that the Birther ditz Oily Taint is no longer being paid attention to except by the inbred & delusional Birthers. The level of pure stupdity shown by these idiots is mind blowing. The fact they could never provide any actual proof (which wasn't a forgery) to support their idiotic claims says a lot about just how easy it is for some people to buy into baseless lies.
psychohorrorfan 2 weeks ago
You've gotta hand it to the President's parents: it's not easy knowing forty years in advance that your son will become The Lion King and possess enough foresight to provide that kind of protection for their son. Alas, The Lion King is just a movie, so on this note I congratulate Orly Taitz for a job well done and hope she finds success and happiness in her new career writing science fiction. Or furnishing another useless conspiracy theory on JFK's assassination. More your speed, dingleberry.
conductorinblack 2 weeks ago
Obama long form birth certificate is a forgery and that is a fact. You people are in denial.
CorrosionX3 5 months ago
@CorrosionX3 ...Is your birth certificate a forgery,
blackfeatherarchery 4 months ago
@blackfeatherarchery No it's not. Obama is though.
CorrosionX3 4 months ago
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@CorrosionX3 ... What make's you think so,
blackfeatherarchery 4 months ago
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@CorrosionX3 Give me evidence.
moorg745 4 months ago
@CorrosionX3 You're the one in denial. Do you actually believe an 18-yr-old American woman, who was 7 MONTHS PREGNANT and in a failing marriage, travelled--ALONE--all the way to a 3rd World African country (and in the early 1960's, no less!) to be with her SOON-TO-BE EX-INLAWS (who probably hated her) and give birth there? Use some common sense!
GeorgiaKev 2 months ago
@GeorgiaKev It doesn't matter, his father was never a citizen, which means Obama is not a "natural born citizen" as intended by the "natural born citizen clause"
CorrosionX3 2 months ago
@CorrosionX3 There is no two-parent requirement to be a natural born citizen. That is fabricated birtherlore. Natural born citizen is not defined in the Constitution, and neither Congress (thru legislation) nor the Supreme Court (thru a ruling) has ever defined it as such.
Now, suppose a American woman gives birth to a child conceived from rape. The rapist is never caught and thus never identified. Decades later, the child runs for president? Does he/she qualify as an NBC?
GeorgiaKev 2 months ago
@GeorgiaKev That's what the tem natural born citizen has always meant before it was an impediment to Obama's legibility. The word "is" is not defined in the Constitution either, you have to look at the working contemporary definition. Look at what John Bingham said about what it means to be "natural born citizen". The whole reason for the n.b.c. clause was that children of a foreigner (like Obama) couldn't become president.
Also his long form birth certificate is an amateurish forgery.
CorrosionX3 2 months ago
@CorrosionX3 It has never been established that a natural born citizen must have two citizen parents, you are only assuming it. Answer my question about a child conceived from rape whose father's identity, and thus nationality, is unknown. Is this child legally a natural born citizen?
GeorgiaKev 2 months ago
@CorrosionX3 And as far as saying his long form BC is a forgery, that is nothing but an attempt by after-birthers to save face. It is not possible to determine if a document is forged by looking at a soft copy of it on a computer screen. Both Obama's long-form and short-form birth certificates were certified as authentic by the State of Hawaii, making them legal documents which every state is constitutionally required to honor (Article IV, Sec. 1, United States Consitution).
GeorgiaKev 2 months ago
@GeorgiaKev It is when the digital copy that was released was obviously tampered with.
CorrosionX3 1 month ago
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@CorrosionX3 You cannot tell if document has been altered simply by looking at a copy of it on a computer screen. And if the digital copy of the document was different from what was released and certified by the State of Hawaii as authentic, the state's DOH officials would have been screaming at the top of their lungs.
GeorgiaKev 1 month ago
@CorrosionX3 your just living in your own little world aren't you?
CharlotteCastre 1 month ago
@CharlotteCastre Yes, most people believe the big lies.
CorrosionX3 1 month ago
@CorrosionX3 and, If I know your type, you choose to believe anything that goes against majority public opinion, just for the sake of being a contrarian. If presented with any infromation that contradicts your opinion, you will pick it apart to the most mundane detail, unitll you find an obscure reason to debunk it. When told anything that supports your opinion, you accept it without question. Even supposeing it is fake, its a hell of a lot more convincing then the "Kenyan" one.
CharlotteCastre 1 month ago
@CharlotteCastre Not necessarily, but in this case, it's the opinion of experts that the long form birth certificate that was released is a forgery, and being a Photoshop expert myself, I have checked the arguments for the forgery and I have concluded they were right... Obama is not the most secretive president about his past for no reason...
CorrosionX3 1 month ago
@CorrosionX3 Well, its refreshing to see some hint of a reaonable person in there. I've studied the arguements myself, they held alot more logical weight then Taitz but upon finding other PS experts' agruments AGAINST their case, and a little sleuthing of my own, I came t a much different conclusion. And, personally, I wouldn't call Obama the most secretive, but certainly the most repremended for it. I just dont understand why peple can't put this in the past, and focas on the real issues
CharlotteCastre 1 month ago
@CharlotteCastre Because Obama is an usurper, he's sympathetic to marxists, appointed communists and maoists to his administration and he helped the Muslim Brotherhood like no other president did before.
All that and he's not even eligible to hold office... Pray to God he doesn't get to do it all over again without fear of reelection next time.
CorrosionX3 1 month ago
@CorrosionX3 ...ANNNND we're back to raveing lunatic, nice work. In my mind, Obama's only crime is not doing ENOUGH and just letting his opponents bully him around like wimp. you make all these grand accusations about his secret agenda,but if hes really that diabolical and manipulative: why hasn't he changed anything? You can sit in your dark corner, convinced that your privy to some great truth, and so much wiser then the sheep-like masses: when in truth,your just as ignorant and blind.
CharlotteCastre 1 month ago
@CharlotteCastre Of course some people will just dismiss anything against their dear leader as "grand accusations" and ignore it.. The fact is that he did appoint communists (Van Jones) and maoists (Anita Dunn), we know that's where his ideology lies. And he did support the Muslim Brotherhood spring in Egypt and didn't support the real democratic uprising in Iran when he had a chance... that doesn't come out of a vaccuum, that comes from his ideology. You may agree with him, a lot don't.
CorrosionX3 1 month ago
@CorrosionX3 I'm well aware of the facts,but fail to see the scandel. I hate to be the one to tell you this: but this isn't the 1950's, the communist witch hunt is over. Personally, I think that a politically diverse house could have alot of advantages.As for Dunn, the accusations that she is a maoist were based on a statment she made in HIGHSCHOOL, one that was suppose to be ironic, hardly damning evidence. I respect people with different opinions, just not those who refuse to listen to reason.
CharlotteCastre 1 month ago
@CharlotteCastre That's the problem, that you and others don't see the scandal. Chalk a victory to them the communists have succeeded into infiltrating the US government, the culture and education. As for Anita Dunn, nothing of what she said recently makes her look any more sane than she was in high school. I have no problem with different opinions, but sympathizing with communists, maoists and islamists is as bad as sympathizing with nazis. They should be marginalized, not hired by the WH.
CorrosionX3 1 month ago
@CorrosionX3 Thank you for your insight ,Mr. McCarthy. So, you say you dont have any problem with different opinions and yet immediately follow that with a list of exeptions. I feel like a should go on a flameing liberal rant about how uncalled for the Nazi comparison is, But I wont. This whole exchange is begining to feel like argueing with a yapping chihuahua. However, I will say this:I know your going to walk away convinced your right and never realize how much you dont know about the world
CharlotteCastre 1 month ago
@CharlotteCastre To me there are 2 kinds of people, people who want to be left alone, and those who do not want to leave them alone... I'm in the first category, and communists, socialists, liberals and their ilk are in the 2nd category. If you want your failed economic policies, try them in your own life before imposing them on the rest of us.
CorrosionX3 1 month ago
@CorrosionX3 I intend to do just that. Although, as far as I can tell, your the one refuseing to leave people alone. No one is forceing you to change your way of life in... where do you live anyway? *checks YT page* ...Canada?! Look, I commend anyone who stays informed on global politics; but why put so much time and energy into hateing the president of a country you dont even live in? espeically when your own country is much more socialist(not a bad thing, in my mind).
CharlotteCastre 1 month ago
@CharlotteCastre I don't hate him, I just think what he's doing is dangerous for all of us living in democratic countries.And as a graphic artist I was curious about the claim his long form birth certificate was forged and I verified it and saw that it was true, there is no way the PDF document we have seen on the WH website was a direct scan of something he took out of the archives. If he didn't want any doubts about it, he should have shown the microfilm to independent reporters instead.
CorrosionX3 1 month ago
i believe that since mom was an american citizen, barack would have been automatically a usa citizen
the whole birther group is racism in another form.
gggreggg 5 months ago
@gggreggg...As long as one or both of the parent's are a u.s. citizen he is automatically a u.s. citizen,
blackfeatherarchery 4 months ago
msnbc said you are Crazy , thats why your not on there Mr. TYT.
dewerbylhserf 5 months ago
Kerning point vetted ... set that in abeyance (aside), as first and foremost:, AGAIN, the most BLARING laser light focus for the informed and/or discerning is upon the piece-meal add-effect wrought of compiled donor "typography"aka typo-setting aka font selection: NO 1940's, 1950's or early 1960's (or for that matter ANY non-customized typewriter or heat block sets) would avail eg. the name Kapiolani Maternity, with "unique a's" characters formation; first A a non-match to others; get it ?
LogicCheck 7 months ago
@LogicCheck
So you are saying the HI Dept. of health forged a birth certificate? That must be the case since they've verified it came from them. Since they are the agency that actually issues birth certificates that would be like the DMV forging drivers licenses or the US mint forging money--pretty stupid thing to believe.
Mystylplx 5 months ago
@LogicCheck
Not to mention that all the "a"s in "Kapiolani Maternity" are identical. Use your real eyes instead of your imaginary eyes.
Mystylplx 5 months ago
What about the ridiculous forgery Obama posted? Not one document expert has come forward claiming it's real, many have shown it to be fake. But it does say his father was born in Kenya, Natural born, not quite. Obots are idiots.
joebananatube 7 months ago
@joebananatube
How exactly do YOU know its a forgery?
A real expert would say in no uncertain terms that you cannot determine the document is a forgery by looking at a digital image of it.
Obama's father has nothing to do with the fact that Obama Jr is a natural born American.
arrrogantlyignorant 7 months ago
@arrrogantlyignorant Find one document expert that say's it's real. Look up natural born.
joebananatube 7 months ago
@joebananatube
I don't need to find a document expert. The State of Hawaii already attested to the authenticity of the document they issued. See also: Article IV Section 1.
A natural born citizen is simply a citizen at birth. If you were born a citizen, you are natural born.
arrrogantlyignorant 7 months ago
@arrrogantlyignorant Why the hell do you keep referring to art.IV sec. 1 "Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state".
And, a natural born citizen is a citizen born of two citizen parents . "You don't need a document expert", your right.
joebananatube 7 months ago
@joebananatube
"Why the hell do you keep referring to art.IV sec. 1"
Because the State of Hawaii has already attested to the authenticity of the birth certificate.
Thats all that matters.
There are only two types of citizenship in the US.
1. Natural Born.
2. Naturalized.
There is no third type of "super citizen". That is pure birther myth.
arrrogantlyignorant 7 months ago
@arrrogantlyignorant A PDF you can.
joebananatube 7 months ago
@joebananatube
No you can't. You cannot determine that the birth certificate is a forgery by looking at a digital image.
What you and ever other birther out there does not comprehend is that the pdf is not a legal document.
The actual paper document IS. Hawaii already attested to its authenticity.
All these morons talking about layers and pixels and other meaningless artifacts are idiots.
arrrogantlyignorant 7 months ago
@arrrogantlyignorant Exactly, you made my point, a PDF isn't a legal document. So what was the point of him posting something that's useless? He still hasn't shown his birth certificate. Nobody's seen the "original" he claims exists. And one person saying they saw it doesn't count.
joebananatube 7 months ago
@joebananatube
"So what was the point of him posting something that's useless? "
What was he supposed to do? Lobby Congress for several billion dollars (not counting postage and envelopes) so he could order 300 million+ certified copies and have them mailed to all residents in the US?
No, he did what was feasible and released an image for the general public to look at.
The State of Hawaii has already attested to its authenticity. Article IV Section 1, remember?
arrrogantlyignorant 7 months ago
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BIRTHERS?
BIRTHERS?
BIRTHERS?
BIRTHERS?
The world has now all seen the LONG-FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE OF BARACK OBAMA! And because of it, Trump is now GONE. Along with EVERY BIRTHER's RIDICULOUS AND HUMILIATING LIE about the President. This zombie-Racist-Republican-movement is gone!
THEY'RE DEAD. GONE. And BURIED.
Begone Racists. INVENT ANOTHER LIE... Bah-hahaha. You were SO BURNED on this one, YOUR HUMILIATION WILL LIVE ON YOUTUBE FOREVER. What's a BIRTHER? Easy. BIRTHER = RACIST DOG.
medartist01 8 months ago
Orly is a raving nutcase with zero credability. Amazes me how many braindead inbred idiots continue to support her. She has yet to provide any proof whatsoevver to back up any of her claims & every case she's had dealing with this issue has been thrown out of court. She's a joke.
lovecraftis 8 months ago
okay,okay,okaykkk.this bitch is not a us citizen.
miguel20511 8 months ago
@miguel20511 Did you call Obama (or what ever his real name is), a "bitch"???
kenzo5716 8 months ago
okay,okay,okaykkk
miguel20511 8 months ago
jew...............
dangflo 8 months ago
Birthers are brain dead inbred kkk members. They should be sent toTaliban held territory in Afghanistan with anti Islamic placards hanged on their necks !
tanzanos 8 months ago
As to being 'in for a battle', every action brought to court on this issue has been laughed out of court because of the ridiculously phony and flimsy . Orly Taitz is clearly a attention seeking nut case, and that is exactly how she was treated in court. Her law suit was laughable, malicious, and frivolous, and she will be severely fined if you continues to persue it.
You can whine & cry & pee your pants all you want, but you haven't got a leg to stand on.
blueboyblue 8 months ago
I think you are standing a little too close to the paint fumes.
The Certificate on-line is not a legal original, it is a copy for convenience. Obama has produced better birth records than George Bush, & has proven his citizenship to the gov't satisfaction. So quite whining.
His birth records are on file at the court house in Honolulu, those are the OFFICIAL LEGAL Birth Records that every American provides when they are needed. Those are the exact documents you or G.Bush would provide.
blueboyblue 8 months ago
Obama's lunatic fringe "FAKERS" can't make up their minds. First they show us one forgery and swear it's real and original and now they produce another forgery with the same claims. These "FAKERS" sure are a confused lot. I really don't think these "FAKERS" get enough fiber in their diets.
kenzo5716 8 months ago
Orly Titz needs a Major Brain Transplant
HowardSternn 9 months ago
Oiley Titz!
MrGoTWO2 9 months ago
orly TAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITZ !
LOL
Ctasker5 9 months ago
The Official Legal Birth Certificate is on record at the Court House in Honolulu, that Official Legal Birth Record COMES FROM THE HOSPITAL RECORD.
Obama has provided the Official Legal Court House Birth Certificate, and his Official Legal Hospital Birth Certificate, no citizen born on US soil can provide better documentation than that. There are witnesses, the news announcements, people who knew his family, Obama's records far outstrip George Bush's.
blueboyblue 9 months ago
@blueboyblue Nope, another forgery, just like the first one you "FAKERS" produced. You "FAKERS" really need to make up your minds and stop letting Obama make fools out of all of you. But, I guess that's why "FAKERS" voted for him in the first place, cuz they certainly didn't know any thing about him except he was only half White. Say, why don't you "FAKERS" finger-paint the next one, since you are already finger-painting in your own shit!!
kenzo5716 8 months ago
@kenzo5716
Are you really that delusional? You can't produce better birth records than Obama has. Even prominent Republicans & Conservatives, have say this is a dead issue.
But the marginal FLAKES simply can't let it go. The fact is, Obama has produced BETTER birth records than George W Bush did.
I say, George Bush was born in Mexico - prove me wrong.
I'm sorry but the more you rant & rave, the more you establish the 'Birthers' as a bunch on nut jobs intent on creating a distraction.
blueboyblue 8 months ago
@blueboyblue I am not so "delusional" that I try to get people to believe that 2, totally different birth certificates are originals. DUHH. The issue is far from dead and the latest (Adobe Photoshop) creation is a fake. Looks like FAKERS are in for a battle. Are you a member of the Flat Earth Society, too??
kenzo5716 8 months ago
@kenzo5716 "Flat Earth Society " only in the bible bud, only in the bible...........
kamphwagon1 8 months ago
@kamphwagon1 Hey "bud", since I'm not an expert on the Bible, could you please point to its reference to a "flat earth". Seems to me if the Bible promoted the idea of a flat earth, the "FAKERS" would read it daily and there would be no more lying about Obama's birth place, and no more forgeries to try and back up FAKERS lies. Please don't forget to show me the Bible's reference to a flat earth. thanks, bud!
kenzo5716 8 months ago
@kenzo5716 LOL haven't you ever hered of the dark ages where any sience was considerd hericey by the church ,yeah that was back in the day when they considerd the earth flat & the sun revolved arround the earth, being branded a heritic could get you a hot date with the iron madien... BTW religon is chock full of fakers as you call them ,it's all based on faith ,when consulting Websters it's akin delusion , look the two up ......
kamphwagon1 8 months ago
@kamphwagon1 I see, you're talking about the Catholic Church, which is not based on the Bible, but the "Catechism". I thought for sure you said the Bible supported a flat earth. Perhaps you should re-read your original post to me, eh? Please point me to scripture and verse as I stated to you earlier that I am not a Bible expert. Thanks.
kenzo5716 8 months ago
@kenzo5716 HA HA you meen to tell everone here you don't know who authored the bible ,the same one that every christian uses ?? I'l give you a clue , what was the first empire to have christianity as their state sponserd religon... Duhh the Romans, hence the Roman Catholic church there the ones who put the bible togeather they call it cannonized ,picking and choseing scripture & verse from ancient scriblings under the supervision of a Roman Empreor whom commissioned it .....
kamphwagon1 8 months ago
@kamphwagon1 HA HA yourself, ignorant FAKER. Christianity existed long before Constantine (the real first pope) merged paganism with some Christian teachings and called it a religion. The Bible was not put together or written by Catholics. BTW, "canonized" (learn to spell!) is when the "Catholic Church", not the Bible, declares a deceased person a saint. This has NOTHING to do with writing the Bible, you moron. Lets not lose sight of this FORGED birth certificate you FAKERS defend.
kenzo5716 8 months ago
@kenzo5716 They also call the writeings canon as well cluster fuck, the first orginized religon was catholic moron ,there was no bible prior to to the Roman Catholics ,christians yes but no bible fucktard...Sounds like you get your biblical info from Oily as well LMFAO...Need I repeat that no credible sorce has proven the copy a forgery'' BIGOT '' just fundie cluster fucks whom ride the Tatiz loseing train.........
kamphwagon1 8 months ago
@kamphwagon1 oooo.... foul and obscene language. BTW, the Bible was written over a period of 1400 - 1800 years by more than 40 different authors. The first five books of the Old Testament (known as the Pentateuch or Torah) was written by Moses during the forty years that the children of Israel wandered in the wilderness (1450 - 1410 B.C.). King David's son, Solomon is credited with writing Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, and Song of Solomon. Silly Fool ! You wreak of ignorance and stupidity.
kenzo5716 8 months ago
@kenzo5716 The tora isn't the old testament, and none of the authors were liveing when the old testament was written by the Romans who got the choice of what was allowed or not allowed in the old testament that christians carry to church every sunday , it's full of nonsense, jiberish, .incest all in the name of a sky daddy, a virtural book of fiction...........
kamphwagon1 8 months ago
@kamphwagon1 The "Torah" (learn to spell). They are Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. However, Nowhere in the Bible, Old Testament or New Testament were ANY of the authors described as "Catholics" and NOWHERE in the Bible can you show me otherwise. Additionally, Though you have tried desperately to avoid the subject, your original post to me stated "Flat Earth Society " only in the bible bud, only in the bible..........." Show me scripture and verse. u have NOTHING!
kenzo5716 8 months ago
@kenzo5716 You are the fucktard whom seems to ignore whom authored the bible just another RW racist ethinic bigot who thinks he can rewrite history with his box of crayons , who has yet to show any credibe proof other than here say, inuindo roumor or the word of delusional woman that the BC is a forgery if your so sure why don't you donate to Oily Tatizs cause and put your money were inept mouth is , I'm sure she needs some cash to pay her frivlous law suit fines LMFAO.......
kamphwagon1 8 months ago
@kamphwagon1 Here we go with the foul mouth again. You're backed into a corner with absolutely NO PROOF for anything you say, so the only thing you can do is get sewer mouthed.
The racists and bigots are those who voted for Obama because of his skin color, since they sure as heck didn't know anything else about him.
kenzo5716 8 months ago
@kenzo5716 Your the moron in the corner along with Oily ,with no credibllity to your ignorant claims your the FAKERS youv'e been calling everyone else . LOL every one knows your a racist & a bigot your the first to bring up skin color and try to play the reverse race card with skin color .... it's been like playing a chess game with a 4 year old and you just shoved a pawn up your own ass...... Just like Taitz and her frivlious suits useing the BC to promote a racist agenda .........
kamphwagon1 8 months ago
@kamphwagon1 Child, you made statements, which people can read here. When I simply asked you to back them up with credible documentation, you turn to foul and obscene "ghetto language", and attempt to divert away from the subject .. You supported an illegal alien for pres based on your bigoted and racist ideology , defend attempts at forging birth records, because you and the FAKERS are in too deep to back up now. You are all mouth, no substance, and ignorant to boot. You can't even spell!.
kenzo5716 8 months ago
@kenzo5716theFAKER Yep just like a chess game to expose the racist troll bigot makeing outlandish claims with no credible proof to back any of it ,see your not the only one that knows how to play the troll game of chess.... And gusse what it all came form your mouth , now go sit in the corner with the rest of the inept bigots ,Iv'e accomplished what I set out to do expose you for the racist bigot you are !.........
kamphwagon1 8 months ago
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@kamphwagon1 You're all mouth, no substance. You are a racist and bigot and chose to support a liar and deceiver. You can't back up what you say and resort to your sewer mouth as a defense. No wonder you voted for an illegal alien and defend 2 fake documents in a feeble attempt to justify the lies. Fakers are all the same.
kenzo5716 8 months ago
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@kenzo5716 " I see, you're talking about the Catholic Church, which is not based on the Bible,".......who do you think put the bible together? what a stupid fucking christian
noliesundead 8 months ago
@kenzo5716 hey if your so sure that its a fake, take the pdf to the fbi office near you, and have their forensic doc expert look it over. if its shown to be a forgery i will give you 1000 dollars, if its legit you pay me. lets test your convictions
noliesundead 8 months ago
@noliesundead Wow, are you behind the times. This second forgery (remember the first one?) has already been submitted to the FBI and criminal charges have been filed. A judge has also ordered "discovery" in the matter and attorneys , along with forged document experts are working on this now. Gee, no wonder you FAKERS voted for an illegal alien! DUHHHH.....DUHHH!
kenzo5716 8 months ago
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@kenzo5716 "This second forgery (remember the first one?) has already been submitted to the FBI and criminal charges have been filed"....oh really? care to cite where you got that bit of information? (i know you won't cause your pulling this out your ass, ut hey you may surprise me)
noliesundead 8 months ago
@kenzo5716 Realy ,and any moron knows that the state keeps the origional ,you only get a copy , talk about flat earthers LMFAO.............
kamphwagon1 8 months ago
@kamphwagon1 FAKERS have a real problem on their hands. They now have a second forgery to defend, while still trying to get over the first piece of FAKERY.
FAKERS should really try to worry more about things like the Bush/Obama warmongering for Israel and Obama's monumental transfer of America's wealth (TRILLIONS!) to Banking oligarchs and their cronies.
kenzo5716 8 months ago
@kamphwagon1 No one is claiming it's the original he he ... Somthing wrong with your rational thought process or are you so lame you can't understand my last post .... Geeze how many times do you fundie morons have to be told the the issueing state retains the ORIGIONAL... Does the word copy someway not fit into your thought process.. Theres yet to be a credible sorce to prove the copy a fake, only a racial ethenic religous bigot would subscribe to the Taitz birther BS !............
kamphwagon1 8 months ago
@blueboyblue No he has not. He has produced another forgery.
kenzo5716 8 months ago
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@kenzo5716 - "No he has not. He has produced another forgery."
That is something you CAN NOT and WILL NOT prove, but cause it is a crock of Bull Dung.
The records he provided are the same records that every person born on native sold provides. These are the OFFICIAL and LEGAL for all purposes Birth Records. Endless whining, crying, and peeing your pants will not change that.
Step back from the paint fumes.
blueboyblue 8 months ago
how the hell did this woman break out of the cukoo nest?
BeingNobody1956 9 months ago
Randi Rhodes often nails geo-political matters with incisive commentary, and, to say the least, with a particularly appealing charm. WHEN is she going to get around to faithfully servicing TRUTH regarding the foundational BOGUS CLAIMS, based upon BOGUS DOCS of A 'Bomination. Why would I expect such a thing from RANDI(?); because, she has ardently corrected glaring information gaps; she clearly embraces the CONSTITUTION: Randi, kindly PREVAIL: we TRUST you 4thESTATE!
LogicCheck 9 months ago
NETWORK & ONLINE pundits play scripted hackneye QUIZ LIST; “indictment” of TRUMP’s CONSTITUTIONAL queries—PAYOLA PREVAILS; couched interrogation, intent on would-be intimidation | OFICIOUS dismissiveness whimpers—Trump nails it! SEE ‘TUBE’s: kdenninger FORENSICS : :“Certificate of Birth” blunders: color-aberrations | artifacts | glyphs riddled Bogus Doc—scrutinized by Adobe Suite expert-level-users, Doc Specialists, POST ’67 SELECTRIC type-face analysts: Dumpy: PACK A ‘Bamination!
LogicCheck 9 months ago
SEE: General P. Malaise, online: One type of deep-level DOC ANALYSIS—SEE: Obama Birth Certificate Scam? 2011-04-27 Obama.mp4—There you will find EXHAUSTIVE WITHIN ONE DISCIPLINE LINKS … comprehensive perusal (means to study carefully), parsing certain of the FED GOV POSTED PDF, A ‘Bomination’s “Certificate”, an electronic file whose attributes render it a BOGUS DOC: “BARRY NEEDS TO VACATE OVAL OFFICE | NO NWO!” SEE: pajamasmedia site’s analytics; SEE: kdenninger ‘TUBEs
LogicCheck 9 months ago
OCR posits: FAIL!(A)One PAYOLA used his redacted German Passport—to garner kudos for his "cleverness"; thinking outside-of-the-box: a spent and cliché tactic—sans LOGIC :: Instead, one could merely REPLICATE…FED GOV's very process, as CONTROL;(B)FLATTEN & "SAVE AS", so-called OBAMA FILE…AFRESH; simply reprocess it, using OCR apps array;(C)Should yield a like file/s structure: FAIL;(D)POST '67 SELECTRIC TYPE FACE! SEE: Obama Birth Certificate Scam? 2011-04-27 Obama.mp4 SEE: pajamasmedia
LogicCheck 9 months ago
“FONT FACE, POST ’67 SELECTRIC | NWO WHITEHOUSE DECEPTION!”
SEE: Obama Birth Certificate Scam? 2011-04-27 Obama.mp4
Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin | TRUMP, on ‘TUBE!
American Thinker's site details monkey business:
A ‘Bomination. "Joe Farmer" rips "the dude’s crews’" lies.
LEARN: about flabby lips; all aspects-Hawaii's: HRS 338-5;
HRS 338-17.8; HRS 338-14.3; jailbait-Dr. Fukino; res judicata;
His Excellency Peter Ogego, Kenyan Ambassador to
US-CONFIRMED–born, Kenya; pajamasmedia site
LogicCheck 9 months ago
WHITEHOUSE IMPOSTURE BARRY!: is Obama’s actual name: Check w/ BLACK PASTOR, MANNING details lies on 'TUBE—no wiggle room—TRUMP handles a nest of dumb-bell brainwashed ninnies and background's "clapping cows"...“Trump on TV’s The View Obama Birth Certificate”: nails circular "reasoning": SEE: kdenninger ‘TUBEs, DOC ANALYSIS; SEE: ORLY; SEE: Military Man Refuses To Deploy Till Obama Proves He's a Natural-Born Citizen - and Wins! SEE: Lieutenant Colonel Terrence Lakin, too!
LogicCheck 9 months ago
Gorgeous, a la Nefertiti, Dr. Orly Taitz; Major Cook ::’Hm .....bests "sweetie-goody-goody-want-to-be-sophist" aka George Noory blithers--COAST-to-COAST FM, towing NWO's scripted "explication" for the towers ... redundant FOX's | NYT's latest CONTENT promulgates FALSITY... despite President George Bush's documented ASSERTION that neither CIA, NSA, FBI nor any other AGENCY linked "boogieman GOLDSTEIN" to "towers attack"….yawn; SEE real news: Atty ORLY TAITZ vs Judge LAND
LogicCheck 9 months ago
Orly exudes rare beauty -- that of the ancient 10 Tribes [neither Dan nor David Houses: non-Canaanite lineage]; as if a daughter of Ramses II; Nefertiti: elegant, feline eyes...charming personality--incisive logic--a wonderful Jewess; a wondrous person...knows about OLDEST US of A AGENCY’s Machinations, of the Neo-coned-State Department: its International Institute of Education-IIE: its grooming recalcitrant "talent" world-wide, from junior high-age: get it? Handles the cow
LogicCheck 9 months ago
@LogicCheck i dont think you have any idea how insane your posts look to any rational human being. you seriously need the help and guidance of a good Psychotherapist
BeingNobody1956 9 months ago
We're sick of Orly's lies and constant bs. She's a scumbag who's slandering the President. Deport this bitch.
lovecraftis 9 months ago
I'm conservative but I'm not a birther. I believe 100% Obama was born in Hawaii because his mother would want her son to be born in America & take advantage of all of the benefits of being American.
SGTLima66 9 months ago
This reporter is obviously worker for the left wing media -- which is MOST of the media. There is so little OBJECTIVE reporting nowadays. These shills say what they are told to say.
Just who is this Barry Seotoro?
rfwelsh 9 months ago
@rfwelsh He's a shill because he refuses to buy into Oily's unfounded bs? Oily has yet to provide any proof to back her claims, appears to have no clue how the US legal system works, was caught telling people to lie under oath & is slandering the President. You're a shill if you believe anything this hideous skank says. She's the worst type of scum there is. Someone needs to give her a dirt nap.
lovecraftis 9 months ago
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“FONT FACE, POST ’67 SELECTRIC | NWO WHITEHOUSE DECEPTION!”
Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin | TRUMP, online!
Online, American Thinker's site details monkey business:
Obama-abomination. "Joe Farmer" rips "the dude’s" lies.
LEARN: about flabby lips; all aspects-Hawaii's: HRS 338-5;
HRS 338-17.8; HRS 338-14.3; jailbait-Dr. Fukino; res judicata;
His Excellency Peter Ogego, Kenyan Ambassador to
US-CONFIRMED–born, Kenya; WRIF FM Detroit; ‘Ouch
US-SEE: PROOF!!! Obama Birth Certificate Fraud
LogicCheck 9 months ago
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Check out what the BLACK PASTOR, MANNING details about "Barry" aka "Obama" here on the TUBE -- no wiggle room there -- TRUMP handles this nest of dumb-bell brainwashed ninnies, and the background's "clapping cows" .... match this brood of loud mouths and their circular "reasoning": BARRY IS IMPOSTURE!
LogicCheck 9 months ago
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Wow I just went to whitehouse.gov and downloaded the long form birth certificate Obama released 4-27-2011 . It is indeed a digitally compiled and created document. Not a scan of a real piece of paper.... I am calling it a forgery. I know a little about this sort of thing. I loaded it into my computer and saw with my own eyes that the creator of this forgery forgot to flatten the image.
travissand 9 months ago
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Flatting a document is kind of like taking two super imposed images and making them as one with each other so they can no longer be separated. The program allows me to hide any or all of the 11 layers. each layer has different text on it.
travissand 9 months ago
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Its was forged because Obama wanted us to obsess over this birther thing to draw attention away from something more important. He did say he had more important things to do in is speech. We must be extra vigilant as to what the powers that be are up to when this forgery gets main stream news. And us truthers must spread the word.
travissand 9 months ago
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Maybe the creator of this forgery is a true American and did not flatten the document (combine the layers) on purpose in order to expose Obama. I hope he has a safe place to hide!
travissand 9 months ago
Lawrence O'Donnell carved her a new one!
Lalo3001 9 months ago 5
Stupid racist fucktards. African-Americans are Americans. I guess they missed that point or just don't care.
HimmiJoe 9 months ago
She looks like Big Bird from the Muppet Show.
Silberdachs 9 months ago
Can she produce any genuine fragments of the shell she hatched out of?
Silberdachs 9 months ago
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she looks like a hooker.
HRRyan2 9 months ago
Err is she Israeli?
fahadN72 9 months ago
@fahadN72 nope :)
noliesundead 9 months ago
@noliesundead but in that other video why is she in video confrencing from tel Aviv . i asked the same question their and a guy said yeah to my same question their.
fahadN72 9 months ago
Stop looking at my taitz! Focus on my words.
jjlinert 10 months ago
Orly Taitz cut off his penis and turned into the talking thing you see in this video with a funny blond wig.
Not meant to be factual.
jjlinert 10 months ago
Is the Taitz a transexual or a man in drag?
jjlinert 10 months ago
David is so damn gay, the guy is a little fudge packer. Watch his mannerism when he raises the question about the Muslim driver. These MSNBC people are all trash talkers. They are incapable of objective journalism. LOSERS! They left-wing journalist are fighting for their life and will go to any ends to destroy anyone who challenges and exposes them for their corrupt journalism
whatdoyouknowkid 10 months ago
She can't even speak english!
HAHAHA This is really the joke of the century.
TOTCD 10 months ago
ok just let me ok just let me ok just let me talk,i want to talk and you wont let me talk ok can i talk oh how much time do i have to talk i wish you would let me let me let me talk ok can i talk i just need to talk do i have any time left to talk ok ok ok ok ok let me talk
mondecello 10 months ago
@mondecello HAhahaah you got her there
TOTCD 10 months ago
is she an american? or foreign american"
gule41018 10 months ago
As a Jew and a mild republican I would like to speak on the behalf of all Jews....
WE ARE NOT AFFILIATED WITH THIS CRAZY BITCH KNOWN AS ORLY TAITZ.
thephuny1 10 months ago 28
@thephuny1 what about pam geller and debbie schlussel. You seem to have disproportionate number of nuts in your midst.
BabaZonge 9 months ago
@thephuny1 her birth name is Oral tu Taints.
solomanspaming 9 months ago
@thephuny1 TAITZ FOR PRESIDENT!!! At least she probably has a REAL birth certificate.
kenzo5716 8 months ago
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Up there with the Climate Change denialists - in the Australian lying Liberal and National Party's league lead by the village idiot himself - Tony Abbott. COMPLETE propaganda nutters.
haylele 10 months ago
Is she wearing a "Pink Lady" costume from Grease or something??
sunsetswitheli 10 months ago
THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY HARBORS RACISTS... Be aware of that when you vote in 2012 and don't fall for their lying lips that tell people whatever they want to hear in order to get elected... They have a very evil and FAKE agenda...
getaneducationfools 10 months ago
She just got owned and booted off the show by Lawrence O Donnell. She's an idiot. She's trying to talk but giggling and Lawrence was, 'get her off, you're fired, go play with Donald'. This bitch is a clown. 'OK...huh...OK'. She's debating citizenship, you can't understand this bitch. Deport her back to the Soviet Union or wherever the fuck she came from. OK... OK... you're a joke.
mrselfdestruct23 10 months ago
@mrselfdestruct23 omg that shit was soo funny! shes insane! he got pissed!
LeftLaneClosedVideos 10 months ago
Who here saw the interview on MSNBC just five minutes ago where after she literally had seen the documents firsthand she didn't even address the issue. She got kicked of the show by the pissed off host of The Last Word. I guess once crazy always crazy...
nanaforiod 10 months ago
Barack obamas mother was american thus he is a american
OliieTheEpic 10 months ago
omg she has a PHD?
PHD IN stupidity
BigTrollShaman 10 months ago
His MOM is a U.S. citizen so It DOES NOT matter if he was born in the U.S. or not. He could've been born on the moon and still be considered a U.S. citizen.
Royaldragon2174 10 months ago
@Royaldragon2174 I do not know if that is true. My Mom is American and my Dad is Canadian. I am a dual Canadian and American citizen and was always told that I could never be president because I was born in Canada. I will have to do some research.
Chaoitcme 10 months ago
Love how the Birther scum r so stupid they refuse to face reality. Every case dealing with this issue has been thrown out of court. They have no proof to back their claims whatsoever. Obama posted his BC online years ago.
lovecraftis 10 months ago
Oily is a joke with zero credability whatsoever. Of course people interrupt her. She goes off on insane rants that make no sense whatsoever.
lovecraftis 10 months ago
The Appeals Court slapped Taitz with a $20,000 fine for wasting the court's time with stupid law suits against the elected President of the United States. Taitz said that Obama's policies present a "clear and present danger to Israel" and compares his Administration to Nazi's! Her interests lie clearly with Israel and not with America, as she has displayed time and time again. She should go back to Israel if that country matters to her so much, rather than causing turmoil for Americans.
Rose999123 10 months ago
Taitz sounds like a chicken being plucked. She should know something about "fake" - like her unaccredited, on-line "law" degree - not recognized by the American Bar Assoc. All her pro-Israel, anti-Obama comments are evidence that her concerns are more for Israel than US. She is entitled to her (warped) opinion, but she should let Americans concerned about the US address issues, rather than impose her ridiculous birther nonsense on us, as a pretext for Israeli concerns. Taitz is that transparent.
Rose999123 10 months ago
That guy conitnued to interrupt her and not let her answer the questions that he asked...
nameunknown7 10 months ago
@AllGoodInThePNW
Congressman, Abolitionist, "Architect of the 14th Amendment" John Bingham 37th Congress 2nd Session House of Representatives 1862
Who are natural born citizens?
All persons born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens. Gentlemen can find no exception to this statement touching natural born citizens
kiiifute1 10 months ago
Supreme Court Chief Justice Melville Fuller speaks: Considering the circumstances surrounding the framing of the Constitution,-- it is UNREASONABLE TO CONCLUDE that "natural-born citizen" applied to everybody born within the geographical tract known as the United States, irrespective of circumstances,...
.. THE CHILDREN OF FOREIGNERS, happening to be born to them while passing through the country [ARE NOT] ELIGIBLE TO THE PRESIDENCY.
kiiifute1 10 months ago
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@kiiifute1 THE CHILDREN OF FOREIGNERS, happening to be born to them while passing through the country [ARE NOT] ELIGIBLE TO THE PRESIDENCY.....well the supreme court says otherwise, US v Low Hong. remember it does not matter what 1 justice says, its the collectives opinion that is what is the interpretation. maybe you should take a Criminal Justice class
noliesundead 10 months ago
She reminds me of "Big Bird" from the sesame street everytime.
PfhUkJiu101 10 months ago
nobody saw his birthcertificate this turkish guy is a fuck
euge447 10 months ago
Oily is the worst type of scum around. She's a dentist with an online law degree. Every case she's had has been thrown out due to her complete lack of evidence. She's unable to back up any of her claims and is constantly wasting txpayers money with her bs. Obama showed his BC before he was elected. Stop drinking the poison Kool Aid Birther sheep.
lovecraftis 10 months ago
I wonder what would happen if someone had a birth at home. They can't have a birth certificate or birth announcement?
owchywawa 10 months ago
I only have one nerve, and this bitch had to find it.
gotch09 10 months ago
O RLY?? Ya rly..
migbee 10 months ago
I've watched this video many times... I can't resist it's title, which btw couldn't be more accurate! :P
rosemaju 11 months ago
Birth and death announcements come from all over the world in any newspaper.
UNTC321 11 months ago
ban comercials
archie977 11 months ago
great defence
Thechaoticspartan 11 months ago
Taitz voice makes me want to tear out her vocal chords.
I'd say it'd make me want to stab my eardrums, but her voice isn't MY fault. So I'd rather tear out her vocal chords instead.
Shavarnarak 11 months ago
She is so fuking stupid. Both articles do NOT list people who were just issued Birth Cerficates, it was a listing of BABY'S JUST BORN IN HONOLULU HAWAII. Plus the newspapers did NOT wait around for someone to apply to have his name listed, they get the information from hospitals, clinics, ect. where the birth takes place. This lady is so fucking stupid.
xinecallaw 1 year ago
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The Birthers are 100% right and are not fringe, because they represent the core of 60% + of Americans who believe that there is a question with Obama's citizenship status and thus his eligibility to serve. Those people who think there is no question are ignorant, or are protecting Obama and are the minority. This is poll-numeric fact.
Click on my name right now, GStarzToday, and go to video 7 to get owned on this issue by the birthers. Learn a thing or two. They're right.
GStarzToday 1 year ago
Why would the parents need to lie if the mother was an American?
buhe1 1 year ago
Obviously, this woman thinks black is unamerican.
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