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  • it's okay to have an idea, but you can't change the bible. write your own bible.

  • Woe unto these despicable dogs, they whose walk is one of a seared conscience, fools prone to the enticements and bewitchments of the senses, the scriptures speak to you who know nothing of the things of God, you who have instead chosen to seek after the fleshy wisdom of fools. “The dogs have a mighty appetite; they never have enough. But they are shepherds who have no understanding, they have all turned to their own way, each to his own gain, one and all.” Isaiah 56:11

  • Woe unto these hateful, spiteful, vengeful, detestable dogs, they whose walk is one of a seared conscience, fools prone to the enticements and bewitchments of the senses, the scriptures speak to you who wear no robe of humility but one of pride and arrogance. “These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit. “Jude 1:19” For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Romans 8:6

  • Woe unto these vile dogs, they whose walk is one of a seared conscience, fools prone to the enticements and bewitchments of the senses, the scriptures speak to you who do not walk in righteousness, but in contempt and disobedience, you whose desire is to be submissive to these false teachers and prophets because of your foolishness and pride that has no place for grace because grace is given only to the humble and pure of heart.

  • Woe unto these contemptible dogs, they whose walk is one of a seared conscience, fools prone to the enticements and bewitchments of the senses, they who have fallen before the altar of competing authorities spoken by wicked men and by devils, “This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. James 3:15

  • Woe unto these abominable dogs, they whose walk is one of a seared conscience, fools prone to the enticements and bewitchments of the senses, the scriptures speak of you who have chosen to fall before your gods of carnality and idolatry, you who stand before your altar of deceit, you who pay homage to these fools who teach these doctrines of devils,” Pride goes before destruction, And a haughty spirit before stumbling. “Proverbs 16:18

  • Woe unto these repugnant dogs, they whose walk is one of a seared conscience, fools prone to the enticements of the senses, the scriptures speak of you who pay homage to these fools, you who have chosen to venerate them for they have become your idols, you who submit and adore them for they walk among the dead, you who are proud, haughty and vengeful. “The fear of the LORD is to hate evil, pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.” Proverbs 8:13

  • Woe unto these wicked dogs, they whose walk is one of a seared conscience, fools prone to the enticements and bewitchments of the senses, “For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up, and he shall be brought low.” Isaiah 2:12“For the sin of their mouth and the words of their lips let them even be taken in their pride: and for cursing and lying which they speak.” Psalm 59:12

  • Woe unto these malevolent dogs, they whose walk is one of a seared conscience, fools prone to the enticements and bewitchments of the senses, the scriptures speak to you who are proud and yet fools, “Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.” Revelation 22:15. “Like a dog that returns to his vomit is a fool who repeats his folly. “Proverbs 26:11

  • Woe unto these evil dogs, they whose walk is one of a seared conscience, fools prone to the bewitchments of the senses, you who stand before your altar of apostasy, you who are not submissive, nor meek, nor humble, nor patient, nor full of love, nor willing to submit to the father but only to the lusts of the flesh and the wisdom of men, for this is the lot of the natural man who is an enemy of God who seek fleshy wisdom, who are carnal, rebellious, disobedient and haughty.

  • Woe unto these malicious dogs, they whose walk is one of a seared conscience, fools prone to the enticements and bewitchments of the senses, the scriptures speak to you who are proud and yet fools, “Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked. “Revelation 3:17 When pride cometh, then cometh shame: but with the lowly is wisdom “ Proverbs 11:2

  • @thedarkLordLucifer Did poor little lucifer boy get any reaction? All those big mean scawy words, so frightening, yet deep and poignant, words of wisdom drawn from a deep dark tormented soul, yet strangely alluring sexy, mysterious mind. What's a matter didn't get any attention from mummy when you was a wittle boy? :( ooohhhh. Get left playing wif your dark vader doll all alone again? Dont worry Darling. I'm listening to you. I find you interesting.

  • wordly people who are mnanipulated by satan to start DOUBT in GOD HOLY WORD satan way to bring corruption and to destroy human soul  this is age of apostasy WHERE HOLY SPIRIT GOD FATHER LORD JESUS CHRIST removing all corrupt branches from BODY OF JESUS CHRIST people are tested in many ways and ONLY PEOPLE WHO ENDURE TO THE END WILL BE SAVED

  • The meaning of the cross and resurrection is not only that God loves, but also that He has the power and the will to overcome evil, not just personally as Jesus did, but to do so universally or cosmically, and bring victory out of what could only be described as eternal defeat. To believe that such a God could or would permit a single soul He created, to be destroyed, or even eternally separated from Him is a contradiction in terms. It would also be an inadmissible defeat for God.

  • while I would agree with you that your argument is an emotionally compelling one, it just does not align with what we absolutely know for sure about the both the nature of God and man. We know from the Bible that our Creator is perfect justice & truth- HOLY, HOLY, HOLY..We know that we are imbued with agency and subject to consequences in our choices and actions. The lie of Satan to Eve is that you will not die is you disobey God & eat the forbidden fruit. In fact, sin produced death & hell

  • Lord Help Carlton Pearson and others who walk in deception, in Jesus Name amen

  • Woe unto you spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who are proud of heart and haughty, “To fear the LORD is to hate evil, I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech Proverbs 8:13, Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished.” Proverbs 16:5 ,” Pride goes before destruction, And a haughty spirit before stumbling. “Proverbs 16:18

  • Woe unto you spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who stand before your altar of apostasy, to you who is not submissive, nor meek, nor humble, nor patient, nor full of love, nor willing to submit to the father but only to the lusts of the flesh and the wisdom of men, for this is the lot of the natural man who is an enemy of God, you who seek fleshy wisdom, you who are carnal, rebellious, disobedient and haughty

  • Woe unto you spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who are proud and yet fools, “Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked. “Revelation 3:17 “For the sin of their mouth and the words of their lips let them even be taken in their pride: and for cursing and lying which they speak.” Psalm 59:12

  • Woe unto you spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak of you who have chosen to fall before your gods of carnality and idolatry, to you who stand before your altar of deceit, to you who pay homage to these fools who teach these doctrines of devils, ,” Pride goes before destruction, And a haughty spirit before stumbling. “Proverbs 16:18 ” For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Romans 8:6

  • Woe unto you O spiritually dead ones , the scriptures speak to you whose walk is disorderly and who exhibit despicable attributes regarding the brethren, For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies. 2 Thessalonians 3:11. “Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.” 2 Thessalonians 3:6

  • Woe unto you O spiritually dead one, scripture speaks to you who sit before your altar of a perversity, for it is the lot of those who are perishing and who have chosen not to abide in Him. We who are called will not be dissuaded by the feeble minded, for we are the children of God. “If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. John 15:6

  • Woe unto you O spiritually dead ones, you who do not abide in His word but in folly, for the word speaks to your foolishness, cry out to your god of carnality, lay low below your altar of deceit for you are but a fool, prone to falsehood. The scripture speaks to your waywardness, Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you John 15:2-3

  • Woe unto you O spiritually dead ones, you who fall quickly before the altar of deceit and wretchedness, you who sit with much anticipation awaiting your riches, for the foolish man seeks after temporal things for he has no heart for God because he is spiritually dead. Quickly, defend these fools for you have no desire for godly wisdom nor to glorify Him, for you have only contempt for spiritual knowledge and wisdom.

  • Woe unto you who pay homage to these fools whom scripture speaks of, who teach despicable doctrines to those who have chosen to venerate them for they have become their idols, to those who submit and adore them for they walk among the dead, to those who are proud, haughty and vengeful, O spiritually dead ones, the word speaks to you, “For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up, and he shall be brought low.” Isaiah 2:12

  • Woe unto you O spiritually dead ones, you who do not walk in righteousness, but in contempt and disobedience. You who wear no robe of humility but one of pride and arrogance. You whose desire is to be submissive to these false teachers and prophets because of your foolishness and pride that has no place for grace because grace is given only to the humble and pure of heart. Fall before the alter of prosperity and materialism, for that is your true desire and reward.

  • Woe unto you O spiritually dead ones, you who know nothing of the things of God, for the natural man is opposed to those things which are spiritual and so then is unable to discern sacred truths that are given by God to His children because they instead have chosen to seek after the fleshy wisdom of fools, “This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. James 3:15, These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit. “Jude 19

  • jesus preached more on hell then anything else. Jesus made a way out. What if the bible is right about hell. How would you feel after telling so many there was no hell and turns out you were wrong and the bible was right. We should believe the whole bible. Not just the parts we choose to believe.

  • You guys are quite rude and self-righteous. There is a hades but not a pagan hell. Jesus died for everyone and so they will be saved,obviously. Carlton is abit wacky on other points,though.

  • John 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: SIN NO MORE, LEST A WORSE THING COME UNTO THEE.

    Fornication, adultery, gay sex, should be taken seriously avoid it by every cost the devil is destroying many lives through sexual sin. The above scripture is saying if one continues to sin you can bet that something worse will happen to you.

  • two central points of confusion about basic Christians doctrine become clear in listening to Mr. Pearson's commentary. 1) He does not appear to grasp /acknowledge the devastating and unrelenting reality and consequences of evil in this life. If some evil person were to commit some manner of unspeakable acts against a person's love ones (which happens regularly) would he still insist there is no divine, eternal judgment ? 2) He fails to understand the eternal security of the believer in Christ

  • Carlton you are a retard with false teachings against God's true word

  • God is not a Christian:

    Salvation came before Christianity:

    Jesus is the only way to God only because he "is" God:

    You were saved before you were even born:

    Hell does not exist:

    Get biblical facts in the new book titled: "You Couldn't Be Lost, Even If You Wanted To," The True Plan of Salvation. By: Author Linda J Stokes

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  • God Bless you Carlton! God opened your eyes just as he did mine. Hallelujah to the true VICTORIOUS GOSPEL that ALL men will be saved by the Finished Work of Christ. Christ took away the SINS of the world!. Hell is a pagan man-made myth,no wonder Christians can't truly LOVE, they are so filled of judgment and sending everybody to hell except themselves. The false God they think they are serving is NOT GOD, but an 'idea' of god..The TRUE GOD LOVES ALL...Glory to his name. It is FINISHED!!!

  • Carlton repent why are you in these pictures with known illuminati like Bush and Clinton.

  • Good for him. He finally found some wisdom. It's crazy to think so many people believe all that bullshit in the first place!!!

  • The BIBLE does not change simply because it is a HISTORY BOOK, and God does not change because he has been perfect all along. But what did change was the penalties to laws, and these changes were noted in the same bible, when it shares with us the Grace that came about when Jesus gave his life. But, we refuse to acknowledge this change, and keep expecting words to change that were written before Jesus died. They won't change because grace saved us, not words in the bible!

  • I will like to say that Carlton Pearson is WRONG about hell. Because hell is real as the cloud is blue. I will like say. that, God doesn't  want nobody goes to hell but there will some people will goes there. Because We as people has disobeyed God and his word. In the Book of Revelations 21:8(ESV) But as for the cowardly, the Faiththless, THe Detestables, as for the murders, the sexaually immoral, sorcerers, Idolaters, and all lairs will be have there in the lake of fire with sulfer.

  • His teaching is off the chain. If you take out Hell you don't have the Gospel of Jesus Christ anymore. It makes no sense that Im gonna be kickin it in heaven with people like Hitler .There would be no justice and accountability. Nuf said

  • @cc02cute The Bible does not Change for anyone. Even for Carlton Pearson. Hebrews 13:8. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever. So the bible does not change.

  • Hell is real and heaven is real, but the lake of fire is where satan and the fallen angels are doomed to be punished for eternity, and all those who CHOOSE to follow him. in revelation, 20:14-15 says "and death and hell were cast into the lake of fire, this is the second death, and whosoever was not in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." God gives us a choice u can choose life n blessings, or death n curses. choose Christ while you still can. Time is running out. Be blessed.

  • what he is saying is Christ died in vain for our sins

  • @shirov1234 exactly right thats what hes saying in essence.

  • mr pearson, just because u were told that a loved one of yours went to hell, Doesnt mean that the "hell passages" are Figurative; the Son of God, Jesus Christ NEVER said that hell isnt Literal SO why should we assume its figurative.

    thats like saying that Jesus isnt literally the saviour or Gods Son but its a figure of speech! U see how ABSURD we/it becomes when we Dont take the Word AS IT IS! Hell was prepared for satan & his angels, the Bible declares.

  • Nowhere in the bible does it describe hell or heaven or salvation like he is describing it. As for the discussion about people being evil. I think you are looking at it wrong. Being evil isn't sin. Sin is sin. We are all sinners, not evil doers. The only person to walk this earth and not sin is Jesus Christ. You don't have to wrong someone or kill or cheat to sin. To fall into temptation, to think impure thoughts is a sin. Therefore everyone needs salvation, forgiveness and love.

  • NO BUDDY YOUR NOT PENTECOST!!!

  • Ironic that the ONE thing that sets off a Legion of christians against their fellow man is the message of universal love.... actually, not so much ironic as par for course.

  • @354rinarina I Timothy 3: 16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. I Corinthians 2:7 "But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:" Romans 8:6; Revelation 1:18; 3:12

  • He did not have the true faith. Every Catholic knows nobody is innocent. People are evil not God.And who goes to Hell? We will never know, Its between them and God. Like Mans law, we have the potential Punishment outlined by the LAW and then the sentance pronounced by a Judge, when are they ever the same? God is not dissimilar in this manner.Yes people are dying all over the world from starvation...yet we have continents in the world suffering from Obesity, i guess God is responsible for that..

  • @dagga101 But if God made everyone 'down to every hair', and everyone was made in His image, that means that either God has evil, or God personally puts Origional Sin on every human (which means God has and does evil).

  • @Xunkun i disagree, he made everyone with a CAPACITY for evil, not necessarily evil infused. And indeed God himself can choose to be evil if was so inclined.

  • @dagga101 By that, Origional Sin is false, as nobody is inherenty evil/sinful, so then people in general don't need salvation, only those who actually do evil. In which case, religion has no point existing for the masses.

    Plus:

    1) Isn't He NOT supposed to?

    2) Who can truly claim to know God's will and plan... and say He hasn't/doesn't? (Except, well, Isaiah 45:7, God Himself says: "I ... create evil.")

  • @Xunkun Of course he creates/Permits evil...or rather its the result of his creation i dont deny this, and yes we are born in original sin, i beleive this as well...but who says we cant repent for original sin? and its much harder without religion.Evil exists that we may be the better for it< how does a muscle get strong? u put resistance against it same thing with the soul and resisting personal evil. How do we know God's will? simple. every Sin makes u feel like Cr4p..he doesnt want us to sin.

  • Actually, muscles get stronger by vigorous repeated exercise; the workout actually damages the muscle tissue, which kicks in the healing process; in anticipation of preventing injury, the body rebuilds the muscle a little bit stronger.

    Also; if origional sin is true, then how is it "Just" that all humanity forever be subject to "guilt by default" for the crime of being human, just because HE made Adam and Eve without knowledge of what "death" or "evil" is?

    In which case, it's His fault.

  • Oh I forgot let me post because it seems you did not understand Gal 1:2 example which I used to show how Greek is highly inflected and changes form and def based on function and context. Hold on..... This also applies to Ep 2:7 you brought up which.

  • @LogosTheos No, I understood your example. What I was saying is that it's misplaced. Oh, and you didn't answer my question, how can you have multiple "eternities?" You can have multiple ages, but not eternities. Logs, again, it's been fun debating you, my black, blonde-haired Japanese brother. But you are not ready to receive the truth of all mankind being saved. Give it some time. It'll happen

  • @RUABerean, I'm serious I am half black, white japaneses.

  • The word in the greek manuscripts read the accusative singular αιώνιον.

  • Also what do you think about the Greek Scholars who translated let's say the NIV, RSV, ESV, NKJV, etc. They put eternal in the translations, I want your opinion as the why? So I can know more of your position before I begin my refutations

  • @LogosTheos There are more accurate bible translations that correctly translate the greek words aion and aionios to its proper translation eon & eons, or age & ages. Unfortunately, the above translations that you mentioned do not translate the word properly. Now, before I get too old...bring on your refutations. I can guarantee you I've heard them before. It's like listening to a record that skips, and you hell-mongers embrace them with an ungodly passion, and they're all easily refuted

  • @RUABerean, You still believe there is no eternal in the NT right?

  • @RUABerean, 1 John 1:2(ESV), the life was made manifest, and we have seen it, and testify to it and proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and was made manifest to us. Is John talking about life that ends or life that is age-during ( age never ceases to exist)? Please don't run and don't change subjects

  • @LogosTheos How did I know you were going to present this? Because like I said, you are all predictable, and collectively embrace the same scriptures(Improperly interpreted of course) to support your beliefs. Yes, the Greek word errantly translated "eternal" is aionion, which is accurately translated "eonian" in the Concordant Literal Version, and "age-abiding" in the Rotherham's Emphasized bible. cont...

  • @RUABerean, So you agree that αιώνιον is eternal or age-during?

    And please I agree with greek scholarship not minorites. Also you contradicted yourself because you said the OT and NT have no concept of eternal. And I suggest you look at the codex sinaiticus with Greek scholary translation.

  • @LogosTheos You seem to delight yourself in pointing out my apparent contradictions, where there are none, but I don't fault you. It's tough to take when your theology is being challenged. But I will say it again, the hebrew and greek have no concept of "eternal." No contradiction, and I'm not stuttering. I'll say it in caps for you, THE HEBREW AND GREEK LANGUAGE OF THE SCRIPTURES HAVE NO CONCEPT OF THE WORD ETERNAL. Yes, it's true

  • @LogosTheos But they do have a concept of immortality, which is only applied to God and His Son at this time. Soon, we ALL will put on immortality(1 Cor 15:53). So immortality has nothing to do with the ages, or the eons, or even the erroneous concept of "eternity." THE HEBREW & GREEK SCRIPTURES KNOW OF NO WORD. God lives beyond each age, as does Christ.

  • @RUABerean, Age-enduring is an age that constantly remains, this is Greek thought for eternal, so the translation is perfect as most Greek Scholars would agree with me as it is evident in scholarship. The verse I quoted is about eternal life being with the Father and now manifested to us. It means "it" can move between the Father and man and therfore a product and definition of it's self meaning and dependent on context for definition and not reliable on the chracteristics of God.

  • @LogosTheos The ages are not eternal. The scriptures speak of this present evil age(Gal 1:4, which is errantly translated "world," but it's the same greek word "aion.") Why did your beloved greek scholars translate aion in this case "world?" The greek word for world is Kosmos. Well, your Greek scholars would look stupid if they translated this, "present evil eternity" would they? I sense bias here! ;)

  • @RUABerean, Koine Greek is a highly inflected language, This is about αιώνιον, not αιoν which can have 5 meanings depending on context. Like I said it depends on context as with αιώνος the masculine nominative singular form in Gal 1:4. For example in Gal 1:2. The word used for brethen/siblings/familiy is αδελφοί the masculine nominative plural which can mean depending on it's context men or both men and women who are brothers and sisters. So it comes down to context.

  • @LogosTheos Ok, let's try to stay on the subject at hand. Gal 1:2 has nothing to do with "eternal", so try to keep on focus. The greek word aion used in Gal 1:4 is indeed singular, because it's talking about one age...the PRESENT age. Again, your revered greek scholars would have made themselves look stupid by translating this word "eternity", so they translated it "world", which is another error because the greek word for world is kosmos.

  • @LogosTheos People like you love to use the word "context" when it comes to defending your false doctrines. It helps you put blinders on your eyes and keeps you from seeing what's really said. Now, let's hear your critique on why the word aion is plural in Eph 2:7. Is that ALSO a "masculine nominative singular word also? No, it's plural. Can this word be translated "eternities"? No, it wouldn't make sense. So, your exalted greek scholars had to translate the word "age" correctly here

  • @LogosTheos The scriptures also speak of AGES TO COME(Eph 2:7). Hmm...your beloved greek scholars accurately translated this as "ages"(Same greek word, aion). Why didn't they translate it "eternity" like they did in other cases? Again, because of their bias, and it would have once again made them look stupid to translate it "eternities to come," right? I'll repeat THE ORIGINAL GREE AND HEBREW LANGUAGE OF THE SCRIPTURES KNOW OF NO WORD "ETERNAL"

  • @RUABerean, And when it comes to context and grammer Matthew 25:46 is your dilemma because αιώνιον is used twice so if one of the words mean one thing then the other has to mean it as well since they are being contrasted with life and punishment. And I know you never admitted John 1:2 is temopary life, I said you are forced to based on rational logic to admit it to be consistent with you theology. It is also irrelavant for you to determine a non-ambiguous text based on theology.

  • @LogosTheos You sound like a cornered rat, and are trying to grasp at straws to defend your weak case. Here's what Mat 25:46 says in the accurately-translated Rotherham's Emphasized bible, "And these shall go away into age-abiding correction, but the righteous into age-abiding life. The greek word aionion here doesn't mean eternal, for it's not even concerned with "time" in this verse. It refers to the QUALITY of life in both cases. Oh the wonders of the true gospel of Jesus Christ! ;)

  • @RUABerean, The carnal mind is coming out of you please put away and stop calling me "rat" or and ad hominems. Your completely confused about "age-abiding", it's the Greek way of expressing eternity. Your making up denfinitions not supported by scholarship and forcing meanings of the Greek based upon what you see in English. I'm looking up scholary commentaries and the definitions are competely contray to yours. "Quality" of life? I don't mean to be disrespecfuly but is that a joke?

  • @LogosTheos I didn't call you a "rat", I said that you are behaving like a cornered rat. Come on, don't start getting all defensive on me now! ;)

  • @LogosTheos No, the greek word aion is not a Greek way of expressing eternity. You can try as hard as you like to make it so, but it will never be, no matter how you slice it. The "scholarly commentaries" that you're basing your theology on is where you are getting your false belief system from. Remember, God doesn't reveal His truths to the wise and prudent(Luke 10:21;1 Cor 1:19), so most of those scholars are totally devoid of the truth. Sorry to break that to ya Logs

  • @LogosTheos Age-abiding life is what's granted to God's chosen elect, who will reign with Christ during His millennial reign on earth(Rev 20:6). It is these select few who will experience age-abiding life, whereas the many called will experience age-abiding correction, not "eternal punishment in hell." Once the millennial age ends, the REIGN of Christ will end(1 Cor 15:27,28), along with those who reigned WITH Christ, but they will live on because they are IMMORTAL(1 Cor 15:53)

  • @RUABerean, You are the first person I ever heard say that "aionion" means quality of life, this is competely bogus and you must be getting it off some site that is trying to make up any denfinition to save their behinds from being refuted. This is not found in any lexicon or any Greek grammer text book. Based on this I think I can rest my case :)

  • @LogosTheos Again, you misrepresent what I say. I never said that aionion means quality of life. I'm beginning to wonder if you are able to read at all. But what I'm pretty sure your problem is is that your blindness totally makes you misconstrue my words. AIONIAN MEANS AGE. In Mat 25:26, Jesus is referring to the aionion life of the elect, and the aionion chastening of the non elect. Stay focused logs...stay focused

  • @RUABerean, YOU SAID PREVIOUSLY QUOTE: "The greek word aionion here doesn't mean eternal, for it's not even concerned with "time" in this verse. It refers to the QUALITY of life in both cases".

    OOHHHH! Ok so now it's concerned with time, so I guess you are consistent and agree( not me) that αιώνιον is a limited span of time which means Jesus doesn't give eternal life which means in Universalsim Jesus is a liar. I am sastified :)

  • @RUABerean interesting in mathew 25 why where they sent to hell? More importantly why where those not sent to hell?

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  • @TheOkstate2012 I'm assuming that you're referring to the parable of the judgment of the sheep and goats in Matt 25:31-46. First of all, you begin your question with a totally false premise. The goats were not "sent to hell," as you claim, and as most unlearned Christians interpret this. In the original greek, the goats were said to be sent to "kolasin aionion," which literally is translated, "age-abiding correction." Translating the greek word "aionion" into "everlasting" was a grave error

  • @RUABerean DUDE, we are on the same team! I thought you were saying that the goats went into a literal hell. I know that the parable is meaning works, since they went to this "fire" not because of unbelief. And all of the other parables either before it or after it all talk about works.

    I've gotten Matt 25:31-46 from other people too.

  • @TheOkstate2012 An aion is a period of time with a beginning and an end. So, the punishment of the goats will not last "for eternity," but for a "age." But opponents of this fact will always decry, "well then that means that the life of the righteous will also have a beginning and an end." Not so. The life of the righteous sheep will not end because they are "in eternity," their lives won't end because they are IMMORTAL, which obviously means THEY ARE UNABLE TO DIE(1 Cor 15:53)

  • @TheOkstate2012 But what WILL end-in regards to the eonion life(Mat 25:46) of the chosen(the sheep)-is the millennial reign that they will participate in with Christ(Rev 3:21;17:14). The chosen elect will only reign with Christ UNTIL ALL ENEMIES ARE PUT UNDER CHRIST'S FEET(1 Cor 15:25). WhenThe Father puts all Christ's enemies under His feet(The last enemy being DEATH)then Christ will no longer reign, BUT WILL THEN MAKE HIMSELF SUBJECT TO THE FATHER(1 Cor 15:28), and GOD will then be all in all

  • @RUABerean 1 Corinthians 1:20

    And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him I say whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

    Greek meanings

    PEACE: eijrhnopoievw, which means to make peace, to establish harmony.

    RECONCILE: Apokatallasso, which means to bring back a former state of harmony

    HARMONY is: harmonía, meaning "joint, agreement, concord" from the verb HARMOZO which means to "TO FIT TOGETHER, TO JOIN

  • @TheOkstate2012 Well amen OKstate...how awesome it is to encounter someone here on Youtube that has a grasp on the truth!

  • @RUABerean Same to you, I was surprised when you were talking about it. I have only been figuring this thing out for a couple weeks, before then I was confused and lost because "calvanism" and "Arminianism" are both really flawed.

  • @TheOkstate2012 Do you think that the doctrine of the trinity is true? I'm jw, cuz I've always had a lot of questions about it. Like how Jesus could literally be dead for 3 days and still somehow be alive in heaven or how Jesus said said only The Father knows when the the Son wil return. Or how the father cam down and told the 3 and Jesus that this is my beloved son whom I love. If Jesus is just the manifistation of God, how can God raise himself from the dead lol?

  • @TheOkstate2012 The doctrine of the trinity is one of the many "idol of the heart" doctrines of the Christian church, and is 100% false. In 1 Cor 8:6,Paul said, "But to us, (there is but) ONE God-THE FATHER, of whom are all things, and we in Him, AND ONE LORD JESUS CHRIST, by whom (are)all things, and we by Him." In verse 7 he goes on to say, "Howbeit (there is)not in every man that knowledge." Churchianity professes 3 Gods, yet they use sleight of hand to make people believe that 3 =1

  • @RUABerean Yeah, I agree pretty much. Also what's up with the Holy Spirit, why do many equate it with God the father. Also, it never says God the son, or God the holy spirit. If it did then I could believe it. And the word God uses "begotten" to describe is his used to illustrate his relation to the son, basically means two different "beings". Which is what God calls is sac to Noah. I really dislike the church, everything is so distorted. But history ever changes, does it?

  • @TheOkstate2012 The main passage of scripture that churchians use that's construed by them to mean "God the Holy Spirit" is Acts 5:1-4. They think that by Peter saying, "why have you lied to the Holy Ghost...you haven't lied to men, you've lied to God," then that means that the holy spirit is God. They don't see that the holy spirit is God's spirit. It's not an entity unto itself. Matt 1:20 declares Jesus was born of the Holy Ghost, yet not once is He ever called the Son of the Holy Ghost.

  • @TheOkstate2012 He is the Son of God. God's spirit is not God, and it's not any part of a pagan "trinity." Btw, I'm not a "JW," nor do I adhere to JW doctrine. They do have some things right that churchianity doesn't and that is that God id not a trinity, and that we are not admonished to acknowledge or esteem one day above another(Romans 14:5 Gal 4:8-10).

  • @TheOkstate2012 But they ignore what Paul wrote that the one God is the Father, and the one LORD is Jesus Christ. Plain and simple words, yet because Churchians are so blind, they cannot see this. But it's mainly their reliance on spurious scriptures that they use to bolster their trinity beliefs, e.g., 1 John 5:7, a verse which virtually every bible scholar attests was nowhere found in the original greek manuscripts.

  • @TheOkstate2012 It is not for us to understand but to simple believe the word of God and by faith receive the true revelation of who he is. Because our brain will never be able to truly comprehend who God is or what he does unless we have a close relationship with him, for that is the only way u truly know a person right. U have to spend time with them, talk to them, become intament. And this is not just say so this is by expeirance. I use to have my doubts .

  • @TheOkstate2012 I use to have my doubts like how am i sure im serving the right God, but one day he just had me surrender my all and i went to a church were a mighty woman of God was ministering and she said that Jesus said he was deilvering me from the oppressor and every since then i start running hard for him and i know him now like i never had before. I talk to him and he talks to me some times through dreams, sometimes i hear him, sometimes in my heart, sometimes in the bible its amazing!

  • @TheOkstate2012 So, the wonderful plan of God is much much more than what's been declared by the blinded preachers of churchianity, where there it's only "get saved or you go to 'hell.'" The plan of God will reconcile ALL mankind unto Himself, and God will be all in ALL...not just all in SOME. That's a much better and more competent plan, which God has devised even before the creation of the world. He is 100% sovereign, 100% omnipotent, and will certainly be 100% successful in saving all mankind

  • @LogosTheos Back to 1 Cor 15:27,28. All Christ's enemies are put under His feet, the LAST enemy being death. By this time, all have come to know Christ, all mankind has bowed their knees and confessed with their mouths(Phil 2:10,11), and God is ALL IN ALL. The redemptive work of God through His Son will be 100% successful, not 10, not 20, not 30, not 40, not 50, not 60, not 70, not 80, not 90, and not even 99% successful, but 100% successful, for God will be ALL IN ALL.

  • @LogosTheos Can you see this? No, of course not. You, and all Christians like you, read scripture through the eyeglasses of "eternal torment." It's what you were taught, therefore it's what you believe. You cannot see God as successfully saving all mankind, nor do you WANT to see it. But it's not your fault, and I fully understand it. It's not your time to see the truth, and that's not why I'm debating with you. But many people read these posts, and it's THEY who need and want to hear the truth

  • @LogosTheos Sometimes I get bored debating people like you, because like I said earlier, you're all like broken records. You read your websites that promote eternal torment, and that's where you get your ammunition. But it's old, and it's tired. It's all the same. "Context, context, context." But this was fun, because you used those big 5 dollar words like "masculine nominative singular" and all that, to make yourself sound like you know what you're talking about! ;) Goodnight, Logs.

  • @RUABerean, Koine Greek is a highly inflected language, This is about αιώνιον, not αιoν which can have 5 meanings depending on context. Like I said it depends on context as with αιώνος the masculine nominative singular form in Gal 1:4. For example in Gal 1:2. The word used for brethen/siblings/familiy is αδελφοί the masculine nominative plural which can mean depending on it's context men or both men and women who are brothers and sisters. So it comes down to context.

    rest my case :)

  • @LogosTheos And when you say, "I agree with greek scholarship not minorities," I'm assuming you don't mean minorities as in black people, or any other race that constitutes someone other than white? ;)

  • @RUABerean, I'm a dark-skinned blonde black man from Japan so majority doesn't matter to me

  • @LogosTheos This indeed is talking about age-abiding life, no question about it. Does it mean that Jesus' life will end? Not at all. Why? Because Jesus, as well as the Father, are IMMORTAL(1 Tim 6:16). That means, in case you forgot, they cannot die. You need to do some research on what age-abiding life really is, and what it means in the context of the whole greek scriptures, not just one or a few verses.

  • @RUABerean, So I can conclude that when Jesus refers to life eternal he uses the accusative singular of αιώνιον according you right?

  • @LogosTheos Jesus never referred to "life eternal." He referred to "age-abiding life." Or Life of the ages. We can go back and forth on this all night, but you'll never get it

  • @RUABerean, So this buries your entire argument. And αιώνιον is not dependent upon overall theology or beliefs this is not how Greek grammer works, it's dependent on it's context to determine the meaning, so your point about Jesus being immortal has nothing to do with αιώνιον. So the only thing your forced to say without appealing to theology is that John 1:2 is talking about temporary life which contradicts Universalism and shows inconsistent theological beliefs. I rest my case!

  • @LogosTheos Can you pluralize the word "eternal? No. Can you pluralize the word "age?" Yes. Do you speak Japanese? Do they have a plural word for "eternity?" There can be multiple ages, but there's no such thing as forevers, or eternals, is there? But hey, you go ahead and side with your majority greek scholars. One thing is certain, God never works with the majority, at least not in this age. I rest MY case! ;)

  • @LogosTheos Oops. I need to reopen my case because I wanted to address something else you said. I never said that 1 John 1:2 refers to temporary life. You unfortunately have a knack for seeing things in my comments that aren't there, and I know why. Your theology is being squeezed, and you need to falsely attribute words that I'm not saying(Just like the Pharisees who bore false witness of Christ).

  • @LogosTheos Here's what I said, Jesus life never ends because He is IMMORTAL. It has nothing to do with "eternity." Immortality, like you said earlier, will be given(you used the word "manifested")to us, but it will be given to ALL of us. Paul said in 1 Cor 15:22, "as in Adam ALL die(Everybody died under Adam, right?)EVEN SO IN CHRIST ALL(This is the SAME "all" who die in Adam!)WILL BE MADE ALIVE." So, Universalism is definitely scriptural(1 Tim 2:3,4). NOW, I rest my case. Thanks for the debate

  • This man should just gie up chirsitianity all together.

  • The fact that God will save all mankind doesn't sit well with most Christians. The doctrine of "hell" was designed to strike fear in people, and to make you subservient to your pastors and your church organizations. Thank God that His Son Jesus will not fail in His mission to save the world. He will search for all His lost sheep, and He won't rest until He finds them ALL.(Luke 15:1-7). Not one will be lost. All will come to know Christ(John 12:32;Phillipians 2:10,11), and be saved.

  • For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ, all shall be made alive. 1 Cor 15:22. This is the TRUE gospel, which means "GOOD NEWS," that God was in Christ, reconciling THE WORLD unto Himself, NOT imputing their trespasses against them. 2 Corinth 5:19. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who will have ALL men to be saved, and come to the knowledge of the truth. 1 Timothy 2:3,4. All men indeed will be saved. God will lose NO one. THAT'S the gospel

  • Christ spoke more of Hell than he did Heaven and he referred to it more than anyone else in the Gospels, approximately 70 times in all. This is an indication of the sincerity he placed regarding Hell and its consequences. God certainly does not want anyone of his creation to be lost because of their sins. God wishes all to come to repentance, blessed with eternal life, not an eternity in Hell. If Christ considered it worthy of his attention, then this heretic should as well through repentance.

  • The quotable false Prophet Carlton Pearson states, “The death of Christ made it possible for God to accept sinful man, and that he has, in fact, done so. Consequently, whatever separation there is between man and the benefits of God's grace is subjective in nature and exists only in man's mind and unregenerate spirit.” The Scriptures however command us to believe and exercise faith in Christ only for our salvation. Whosoever abideth not in the doctrine of Christ hath not God” 2 John 1:9

  • @Rylucero Thank God that any faith and belief that we must have in Christ, comes from God and not from ourselves. "By grace are you saved through faith, and that (faith)not of yourselves, it's a gift of God." eph 2:8. God gives to every man a measure of faith. rom 12:3. "The life I now live in the flesh, I live by the faith OF the Son of God. Gal 2:20. We are made righteous by the faith OF Christ-philipians 3:9-not by faith that we ourselves must generate. One day all will have that faith

  • The quotable false prophet Carlton Pearson states, “A careful study of early church history will show that the doctrine of universal restoration was the prevailing doctrine of the Primitive Christian Church.” This is not the case as history shows that the doctrine of universalism was never held as an Orthodox Church view. It is contrary to scripture to teach that all will be saved regardless of their acceptance of Christ by faith, and that all of humanity is destined for heaven.

  • The quotable false Prophet Carlton Pearson states, “The message man needs to hear then, is not that he simply has a suggested opportunity for salvation, but that through Christ he has, in fact, already been redeemed to God and that he may enjoy the blessing that are already his through Christ” The bible states however that “except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God” John 3:3. “He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.” I John. 5:12

  • God is eternal, and is not restricted by time like we are as time conscious beings on the earth; my point is the punishment of a man can only be momentary on earth for example a convicted felon serving a life sentence for rape&murder will serve a lifetime punishment for his wrong, if we punish people for a lifetime God punishes people for an eternity because He is an eternal God time only means something to us while on earth after we die time means nothing.

  • @familyman2486 what you're saying makes no sense whatsoever. you're the typical religious person making excuses for God. God created hell, God created people, God created the rules by which people go to hell. God is not bound by laws, he sets the laws. Eternal punishment for finite crimes is not fair, it is not love. Putting someone in hell and torturing them forever with no rehabilitation, no chance at redemption is just plain sick, perverted and twisted. It's a bribe, love me or else

  • God has a lot of attributes not just love, but He is also RIGHTEOUS and HOLY and if you agree with this false teacher/prophet you are saying that He will accept the sins of the unrighteous and lower His standard in order to please "MAN" this is an absolute lie. People that have the hardest time coping with HELL are sinners that want to live in sin, and have no intentions on living right Hell is in conflict with your lifestyle my friend which is why you choose not to believe it.

  • dis guys a fag

  • 'we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe." 1 timothy 4:10

  • Most arguments I read seem to be emotional reactions to an extreme, "turn or burn" evangelism, which is prevalent in the Baptist South. Jesus didn't preach in this style, if you care to read Him. Hell is simply the immeasurable loneliness of knowing God yet not being near Him. I've felt the pain of that separation in my lifetime, and it DOES burn. To say there's no Hell is to say we cannot choose to be apart from Him, which is to say that God's pursuing LOVE serves no purpose. I rebuke this lie.

  • Poor Carlton; maybe he might get his senses back, repent and get back on track. This is so sad, how could he have allowed himself to be so deceived? In the 90's, I was and annual attendee to the AZUSA conferences, remember when he got married and celebrated with them every year. There is a Heaven there is a Hell. You decide where you are going to go while here on earth. Set the record straight, you go to hell for rejecting JESUS as Savior and LORD.

  • @MavisDixon Poor MavisDixon; maybe she might one day see what a sadistic doctrine she believes. This is so sad, to be so indoctrinated that she can't see how ridiculous the doctrine of eternal torment is, and how she blasphemes the character of God by telling others that he willingly created a torture chamber where people who "reject JESUS", including people who never even heard of him, will go and be burned alive forever. What a sadistic mindset Christians have

  • @MavisDixon You don't recognize spiritual growth when you see it. Carlton was given a revelation and he had the courage to follow thru. God works in mysterious ways. The old thinking was for the old days. God wants us to grow in ways that are new to us.

  • I tend to agree with this guy. The whole concept of hell makes no sense to me at all. Why would god send his children to hell and torture them for eternity for sins on this earth maybe 100 years? What parent would you know would create a torture chamber for their kids and torture them forever and ever? Would someone call that loving? Of course not, we would call that parent sick

  • @fasteddie847 Good assessment, my friend. Paul talks of this always. :-) 1 Tim 4:9-11 This is a TRUSTWORTHY saying that deserves FULL ACCEPTANCE (and for this we labor and strive), that we have put our HOPE in the living God, who is the Savior OF ALL MEN, and ESPECIALLY of those who believe.COMMAND and TEACH THESE THINGS. 1 Tim 2:3-6 Hebrews 10:10-14 Hebrews 9:26b-28 Romans 5:18-20 John 3:16-17 Romans 3:23-24 1 John 2: 1-2 God IS good!!!
  • @fasteddie847 Don't follow the hype this man is on a mission from Satan, and my question to you is do you believe in the bible???? if so how can you disregard what it says in reference to hell if you discredit some of the bible you discredit the entire bible. We are not all God's children, Roman8:15 You haven't received the spirit of slaves that leads you into fear again. Instead, you have received the spirit of God's adopted children by which we call out, "Abba! Father!" or maybe..........

  • @familyman2486 I don't really believe the Bible. I think the bible was written by ruthless primitive men and the idea of hell I think was made up by these primitive men in order to scare and control people, to keep them in line. The idea of a eternal hell by a loving god who made us is repulsive to me. That's like me putting a gun to your head and telling you to obey me or else, then when you don't obey me, I pull the trigger but then I say that I didn't kill you that you killed yourself

  • @fasteddie847 what about Roman 8:14 "For all who are led by the Spirit of God are children of God." God is the creator of all existence, but man has the right to dis-fellowship himself from God through sin we can denounce God as are Father, so whether you believe it or not those that God sends to hell are not his children. God separates Himself from sin he will not allow any sin to enter heaven if you think so think again. May God open your mind and reveal His Truth in you not Carlton Pearce.

  • @familyman2486 God created everything so he created sin also. He created hell and he could abolish it. Eternity in hell being tormented day and night with no rest forever from a loving God? If there was any parent out there who would torture their child for no other reason that the child didn't obey that parent would we call that parent loving?? No we would call that parent sick, perverted and twisted. But that's what you religious folks say about God

  • @fasteddie847 Well you are entitled to your own personal beliefs, and by the way I'm not religious I'm not with the Christian agenda I'm with the "Most High's agenda". I understand why a person would not agree with hell it's a hard truth to swallow, but it's the truth none the less. If it's OK to say that heaven is all inclusive then it's safe to say hell is all inclusive as well to all who choose to be included. God has a lot of attributes not just LOVE.

  • @familyman2486 I'm just curious, would you ever build a torture chamber in your basement and torture your children for anything they ever did. Could there ever be anything they could do where you could torture them?

  • @familyman2486 Do you know how God will separate himself from sin? Through Jesus Christ, He will TAKE AWAY the sin of the world(John 1:29). Do you believe John 1:29? Do you believe that Jesus will take away the sin of the world, or is that OUR job? Are you big enough to do that? Have you completely stopped sinning, even though you believe in hell? What "Truth" do you want revealed to fasteddie...that the "god" you worship is a torturer of souls that aren't his? What a sick "gospel" you follow

  • @familyman2486 You worship the same "god" as King Nebuchadnezzar worships. Read Daniel chapter 3 and study the similarities. Your "god" is a failure, and only people with sick minds like yours worship him. But here's the good news, the God of the holy scriptures will save all mankind. He will not fail to save the whole world that he sent his son to save. So, you stick to your failure of a god. I'll follow the victorious God who will have ALL men saved(1 Tim 2:4).

  • @Fleshissin (sarcasm) It finally dawned on me that God allowed His Son to die for our sins, so that we could have the right to sin as much as we want, and still be accepted by God thanks Fleshissin and Fasteddie for such a powerful revelation you guys are great. By the way if this poison you spread is the "good news" there is no need for you to witness to anyone it's not like you are trying to prevent them from going to hell because everyone is going to heaven according to you right?why witness?

  • @familyman2486 Well, here's what the scriptures say, fams...Turn over in your bible(I LOVE it when preachers say that to their congregations...it's a HOOT!!)to 1 Peter 3:15. "But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear." See that? THAT is "witnessing.' Give an answer TO THOSE WHO ASK. When someone asks me, I answer them. I don't go out and threaten people with "hell"

  • @familyman2486 Question, if you finally came to the realization that there's no hell, would you "sin as much as you want?" See, with this statement, you reveal what's truly in your heart. You only serve your "god" because you're afraid that he'll toss you in "hell" if you don't, which is a "love" based solely on fear and trepidation, and isn't sincere at all. Your "god" thrives off of your fear. You admit that if your "god" didn't have a "hell" to toss you in, you'd sin freely and gratefully.