The Tudors Fianle- Henry sees Katherine of Aragon

[SleepWhenIamDead]

....wah, wah, wah....still going on after all these years dead, she has to drone on....doesn't she keep up?...she was 6 Queens ago now....and a really hot one, Queen Kitty, that surely made him forget....and Bloody Mary is no dish of ice cream, she kills more than her father, she even burns pregnant women to death and if they give birth, throw the fetus back in.....

[Pitalla]

What's the name of the song playing?

[godnlenora]

katherine rocks.

[faeryquene]

I sooo wish this was how it actually happened-Henry VIII being told off by each of his wives. I wish Katherine Howard had appeared also.

[naminesoraluv]

when he said "is that why you've come back?" sounds like he's actually hurt that she only came back for Mary and not to see him :O GO KOA you tell him who's boss!! She was always my favourite wife, and to me she suffered the most, not being able to see her daughter for countless years, rejected by her husband the man she loved, struck with an illness until she died. She was right Mary SHOULD have been married by now with her own children, it's all Henry fault how Mary ended up :(((

[IWANTMYROCKBACK]

@naminesoraluv I 2nd that Henry spent so much of his life in search of a women that could give him a son he niglected to see the daughters he had been given! Mary was the way she was because of the foolish ways of her father and as jonathan rhys meyers said "Anna Bolyne gave Henry the greatest son he could have ever asked for the fault was that it came in the form of a daughter"

[BetaArtemis]

@IWANTMYROCKBACK If Henry had been a normal common man without the burdens of being a King and the societal standards of his time and what people expected of him, he would have been a great father to all of his children and been able to love them the way he wanted. But because he was King, because expectations and standards expected a male heir to rule, he was brought down this path of sadness, regret, and tragedy. If Henry had lived in our modern times, this wouldn't have happened.

[mrsotter19]

Katherine always had guts.

[1981Galadriel]

This was awesome!!!! I hope she really is chiding him in the afterlife! And to add to the hilarity, she looks younger than him in this scene!!!!

[KaypeeEmmkay]

on this mary seems so kind but in all the books i read, she was horrible!

[BetaArtemis]

@KaypeeEmmkay Books don't say everything, not every emotion and feeling expressed by a person, books are just words on a page. Books have already been harsh on Mary because of her actions but they don't take into account that a lot of her actions are resulted from the way she was raised and treated. You should not take everything you read as the truth, there are more to the story of Mary and the Tudors that books will never be able to teach us unless we have lived during that time to see it.

[Pitalla]

@KaypeeEmmkay books that where written by protestants at that time.

[1536anne]

does he say go away shade?

[kaybbayyy2362]

@1536anne yea he does Shade was a medival term for ghost

[Thornton88]

Best part of the episode. Katherine was finally able to confront Henry and leave him speechless. MDK does such an excellent job of playing Katherine. It is true that Mary should have been married long before. She could have had a potentially happier life.

P.S. Katherine was born in 1485. Henry was born in 1491.

[mckfrr]

Exactly perhaps even if Mary was able to marry Duke Philipe, Anne of Cleave's nephew, she would be happy, because that's all she wanted was to have a husband and be a mother which she was never able to become, it's so sad.

[HistoryLover1550]

Go KOA! U tell him!

[Strawberrykisses218]

i love how he didnt tell anne boleyn to go away, and she disappeared on her own. Thats like revenge for chopping her head!

[DuttyGyal718]

@Strawberrykisses218 chopping and cheating on her

[RoonJazz]

Would love to see this series continued with the reigns on Edward, Mary and Elizabeth. Excellent stuff. x

[HistoryLover1550]

@RoonJazz That would be cool, maybe Hirst will do a little miniseries about them or a movie, that would be cool.

[TheHistoryfanatic]

What word does he say at 0:55? I can´t understand..

[RoonJazz]

@TheHistoryfanatic He says "Go away - shade." [ meaning ghost], followed by "Go away Catherine."

[mrsotter19]

Since the marriage oath says "'till death do us part" I don't think Katherine of Aragon was his wife anymore and he was free to remarry. It is a shame because KOA ws his first love and he had to fight to marry her. Also they portrayed KOA as being much older than Henry when in reality she was just 4 year his senior.

[musicfan1107]

@mrsotter19 She was actually 7yrs older than him. Still not as old as what she is usually portrayed as tho. lol

[mrsotter19]

@musicfan1107 I must have read the wrong history book then lol. Still she was young when they married but after so much grief from Henry and so many pregnancies and miscarriages I guess he didn't fancy her attractive anymore -which is funny because Henry got fat and had leg ulcers than stank to high Heaven. Oh, well...

[TudorRose85]

@musicfan1107 Katherine was 5 years older than Henry when they Married he was almost 18 and Katharine was 23. Out of all his wifes she was the closest to him in age.

[katsklawz01]

its interesting how catherines scene doesn't hint at the future like Anne and Janes did: elizabeth wore a ruff colar that was fashionable during her reign in annes vision, and jane says edward will die young in hers which he will.

[Snezhinka9]

@katsklawz01 - well, actually it does, though in a very subtle way. She says Mary was 'abandoned by her father', and she talks about it in an ominous way that sort of hints at Mary's bloody reign as queen. After all, if she had been raised in love, she would probably not have become what she became.

[HistoryLover1550]

@katsklawz01 That is interesting, it also would've been cool if Mary said to her father "Sadly, I'll become more of a monster than you and have no children." That would've hinted at her tragic future.

[kaybbayyy2362]

@katsklawz01 yea but she does say Mary should have been married hinting to the problems later on in Mary's rule

[loesje91]

I live in the Netherlands where we've only just had the second season, and I'm glad they finally decided to age Henry in the end. Looking forward to the next two seasons!

[BoleynofAragon21]

weird as much as I love anne boleyn I think he was intimidated by anne, he accepted anne's words to be true and jane's too which I though jane's were more cutting than anne's really, I think he HATED KOA more because she was a more harsher reminder of everything that in his view could have been better but she ruined, that is why he cannot stand koa, and mary well though he shows more favor to mary at times, it is more like destructive favor.

[happybkwrm]

All Mary wanted was a husband and children. Instead she ended up hated and despised.

[BoleynofAragon21]

@happybkwrm well Henry killed her as he killed all his children's goodness, in the end all Mary could see was her father, anne boleyn and all who did her wrong in the protestants she sent to death.

[lostpinguin]

tell um katherine! i'm still your wife. and she's right, mary should have been long ago married, then there probably wouldn't be a bloody mary.

[Snezhinka9]

@lostpinguin - true...Mary did in the end marry Philip of Spain but it was a failed marriage.

[QueenVampireLover]

@lostpinguin no there would still have been bloody mary if he believed in the church of england then mary would have killed him first to ensure her religion reigned supreme.

[Tonganpride1000]

@lostpinguin  Yup.. i totaalyy agree

[Amadrieclya]

OMG :(

[SwoopSui]

Katherine looks exceptionally beautiful!

[aaronomg]

@SwoopSui

shes a bit of a milf to be honest.