TPMtv: Potomac Post-Game

[houserave]

well because most of us liberals are sick of Hillary and Bill and would like a leader that we can see as truthful and.....alive!

[moejardines]

Those poll leads of 17% in Ohio and 10% in Texas are awful for Hillary. Barack is going to whip some major butter in Wisconsin and have the momentum of a cannonball, erasing the 10% in Texas, and cutting seriously the lead in Ohio. If its simply a wash in TX and OH, Obama wins handily.

So, for VP, I like Richardson, but I'm thinking Obama-Dodd would be a great ticket to countreract McCain's military record. Dodd's a vet, and a mensch.

[JonStewart4President]

There will be pitchforks and mayhem if Hillary's campaign tries to take the nomination if they end up behind in either pledged delegates and/or popular vote. I have enough faith in Hillary that if it comes down to it this scenario, that she won't do this and focus on the good of the Party and the country by helping beat John McCain.

[codediporpal]

No. Hillary will fight tooth and nail and try to take the nomination any way she can. I'd bet money on it. She's already moved to have Michigan delegates seated, even though Obama was not even on the ballot there. (She feels sorry for them that they were 'disenfranchised' - yeah right)

[PreetSG]

What Josh doesn't say is that there is no way Obama is going to beat Hillary with her super-delegate lead. She leads him by 200 delegates in that field. There is just no way Obama is gong to get the 201 delegate lead to beat her... He currently leads her by 119 pledged delegates and this would approximately drop to about 80 after Texas and Ohio... Just not enough for Obama... Sad that he is the people's choice but would not be the party's choice...

[Danielspamjam]

Preet,

What you forget is that superdelegates are not bound by any promises they make previous to the convention. The reason he didn't say it is because it's like arguing that water is as solid as steel. That situation is 100% fluid. Don't forget that the Superdelegates, unlike what you've heard, will usually follow the popular winner nominee like lemmings for the good of the party.

[PreetSG]

Look, I want Obama to win. I would love what you say to be true and but the reality is that Obama is 119 or about 12 million people by popular vote but still lags behind Hillary by 85 Super-delegate votes where his friends were... He heads now to Ohio and Texas where he is going to face the tide... I really hope he can make it though...

[codediporpal]

Actually, as of today it's only a 114 SD lead, and less than half of the unpledged and superdelegates have taken a stand. Many that did for Clinton did so when it looked like her nomination was inevitable and may change their minds, especially if it means ignoring the voices of the voters and supremely pissing them off, which is *exactly* what will happen.

[PreetSG]

No, it is now 77. Clinton has 234 and Obama has 157. I agree with your point but then shouldn't the super-delegates vote after the public has voted? It would look bad for them to be for 1 person but their voters back another.

[Toddo31]

If the Superdelegates overturn the decision of the voters, Obama should run as an independant!!

He would clean up!!!!

[notscooter952]

well wait, why would the superdelegates switch sides to Hillary? If they're free to vote whatever way they want then with all the recent support for Obama, wouldn't the delegates -if they switched their votes- switch to Obama and put Clinton behind even more? that's my thought. Obama's gonna win the nomination... and... probably pick Clinton as his running mate.

[spzoey]

Josh, your hair's as messy as mine today. Haha.

[intarwebzz]

hm, that was sort of a long digression into the msnbc clip. especially since both tpm and msnbc have been accused of having a heavy pro-obama bias.

[notscooter952]

...by you I'm guessing? it's like saying: "Well some people Obama is a liberal.... according to intarwebzz"

[intarwebzz]

i've seen in the veracifier youtube comments other people (aka "some people," "they," "them," etc) criticizing tpm for O-bias. i've seen the same criticism for msnbc in the liberal blogosphere comments sections (dailykos i think). i'm not saying it's the only opinion out there; i'm just saying..

[Liribaenz]

I think the damage would be quite big for the democratic party, if the party's establishment ends up deciding who will be the nominee. They shouldn't risk anything that could lead to the result that McCain becomes the next president. (I can't believe that some of you are willing to vote for a guy who thinks invading iraq was a good idea.)

[DeepSouthDispatch]

I can't believe that some of you are willing to vote for a woman who thinks invading Iraq was a good idea.

[Liribaenz]

You're correct. I'm definitely hoping for Obama. I just think that Clinton wouldn't be as bad as McCain. With McCain you'll probably find yourself in a war with Iran pretty soon after he took office. And he will provoke a new arms race with Russia.

[spzoey]

All speculation. He may just want bases out there just as we've had bases in the Philippines the last 70 years. With satellite technology that's just obsolete thinking imo.

[JonathanSwifty]

Or for a guy, who opposed the war yet funded it, duh.

[DirkVA]

Great summary, Josh.

[iueue]

McCain's firing up America's young people with the idea that the Middle East is the "New Frontier," which is why he wants to station them over there by the hundreds of thousands.

[SubmarinerAndroid]

Say hello to your new President: Barack Obama.

[Telcontar1962]

lol...was that supposed to comfort people?

[badgrammar]

it comforts me.

[Telcontar1962]

Prepare for 4 years of discomfort, disappointment and disillusionment.

[Telcontar1962]

The nominations will be what the parties want not what the voters vote for.

You've had two Presidential elctions falsified. How much more evidence do pople need that their vote means nothing?

[robtran]

I think Hillary will take both Texas and Ohio, but not by margins significant enough to even keep the delegate count close. After that, it's just a matter of time before Obama is declared either the front-runner or the candidate.

[DeepSouthDispatch]

GOBAMA!

[captaincracklins]

Just as with the delegates from Mi and Fla, the rules were set well before the contest, so the superdelegate votes should hold even if it puts one candidate ahead.

[kynandog]

Informative as ever. Consider an electric shaver for around the office.

[CitizenWorm]

Oh come on, does the quality of the content change at all due to the number or length of hairs on his chin? Even just based on aesthetics I think it's definitely not a detriment to have some stubble.

[kynandog]

No, the "quality of the content" doesn't change. All I said was "consider" having a shaver. The shit's going out around the world, daily. The look should equal the quality. I've been doing video for 20 years now. I started out doing TV news, which I hate. This is new media. But unless you Josh are growing a beard, having a shaver handy would take no effort.

And what's with the chromagreen 24/7? You guys never key anything behind you.

[notscooter952]

you're 46ish. what news station have you been working with?

[kynandog]

FM radio in college, engineered at a couple AM stations, KOMU, KDNL, Fox Sports Midwest (cable, obviously), freelance since '96 as Avid/Photoshop/AfterEffects editor in corporate, production houses, & field stuff.

I realize that Josh is writing his own rules, and it's not network TV. I also have seen enough people who're supposedly not judgmental snark the fuck out of TV women the second a hair gets out of place.

Josh, if you're growing a beard, more power to ya, baby. If you're hiring, E me!

[notscooter952]

wow cool. that sounds adventurous.

[WadeBlazingame34]

That beard rules. If I ran the best blog on the internet, I'd have a "screw you 3-piece suit a-holes" beard too. Viva la beard!