Grow up people! It's not about russians or americans, it's the government. Do you think John the plumber who works in New-York hates russians or Ivan who works as a taxi-driver in St. Petersburgh hates americans? THERE IS NO DEMOCRACY!!! THERE NEVER WAS AND NEVER WILL BE!!!
What a joke. Try to turn on some Russian TV channels, I believe you will see circus coming to your town. There will be shown Mr Putin and his achievements. Yeah, some killed journalist, some Chechnya destroyed, but no, you will not see these things all Russian mass media, they will show you how Tsar Mr Putin is great in his country. When you compare little shit whit big shit, I can tell you that the really big shit is shown on government controlled Russian mass media TV channels
2 putan bitchies :) mu aha hahahaa .. skazkiiiiiii ,.. baiu baiu idi naxui russiaaaa :) it will be serves him right that america canada and europ deport all russian from theyer country,however russians dont like this country becose they recognize georgians sovereign :) ... MUTHERFUCKING PUTIN DEPORT GEORGIANS FROM MOSCOW 1 YEARS AGO...
I was in Helsinki and the embarrasingly pro-georgian CNN coverage was disgusting. Everyone thought Russia invaded Georgia!
Good thing I know the MSM is full of shit. This is nothing more than two mafias fighting over interests in a territory and innocents getting caught in the mix, like always. All political classes are worthless leeches, when are people going to realize this obvious fact.
Maximka is like a horse thats dying of thrist and you lead him to water, but you can't make him drink.Only instead of water it knowledge.Why did that man Sanikove who fled Tskhinvali to Russia with his dog praised Georgians saying: "good people, hard working much more hardworking than us" And many Ossetians say Georgian Soldiers told us we won't shoot if you do not attack". I am impressed of humane nature of Georgian Army where moral is so high.
i used to think that american media are neutral further more i loved america as afree good country but not any more i watching directed media falsifying the truth
No one was evacuated before the Georgian assault. This information is just another fake, produced by American government. There is a lot of evidence, confirming that Georgian army intended to eliminate Tskhinvali and its population. Representatives of OSCE, who visited South Ossetia, confirmed heavy losses among civillians. And first refugees arrived to Russia on 8 August, which is also confirmed by international organizations. Despite American attempts, the truth can't be concealed forever.
Russia evacuated Tskinvali population 5 days prior to the outbreak of conflict! This is fact also covered by Russian TV Channels. Obisouly, Russia was planning to start this war and made all preparations in advance, Russian organization of Human Right Watch reported on the evidence of Osetian refugees in Russia that 17000 Osetians were evacuatred from Tskhinvali to NOrth Ossetia on 2 August, a week prior to the outbreak of the war.. So, who wanted this war? Who was preparing for this war?
Do you think Russian spy network doesn't do dhey job??? It was clear as day and night that Georgians preparations to ivade in to S.Osetia. And Russia report about it to NATO and UN, is any one respond??? No... Russia try to stop this bloodflow but West and USA want to Georgia to go ahead. Do you really think they care about Georgia??? No.. They only care about themselfs. And very soon Mr.Saakashvilli will be illiminated by them and they blame Russia in it. They all bustards.
Fact 3: Russia constantly report to EU and NATO that Gorgians make a moovement of massive amount of troops, armoured vehickles, tanks and other military forces to the S.O. borders. Hawe you adecuately respond??? You didn't!!! So Russia respond to protect his citizens.
Fact 4: USA offer a $45 000 000 for Goergian military mashine.
Fact 5: Refugee run away from Georgians towards Russia who you try to blame now.
And your media does not say anything how Ossetian abuse ethnic Georgians and killed six police officers before the war broke out, and Russian "peacekeepers" standing and watching the drama. I don't think any civilized country would do something like this. This is still Eastern cultured Russia:-)
Fact 1: US make Georgians army most powerfull in the region in few years time.
Fact 2: 22 "Grad" units were bombing Tchinwalli for a 6 hours killing every one in this town kids, elderys, woomans (inc. pregnant) and then they turn on the peace makers.
I hope that this video will help many americans understand what has happened. The georgian army used bombers, multiple rocket launchers and heavy artillery to turn a whole city into burning ruins, killing 1500 innocent civillians, and if Russia didn't come to help, they would have killed even more. It was Russia who protected human rights and democracy there. And american government protects a mass murderer, who must face the international court for his atrocities. Don't let then fool you!
ok... if S.Osetians killied 6 policemans as you said this is some kind of "Ok" to kill thousands of woomans, kids and eldery people??? And... it's really funny... Can you immagine "Very small South Osetia abuse the great Georgia (country with greatest army in the region) and supported by another great nation USA to let them destroy they nation" Isn't looks stupid??? It looks like 5 years old kid wants to fight with Mr.Tyson. You and me, we know who to blame...
I've been everywhere. Nobody wants to shoot civilains, but it has been 18 years since Ossetians abusing local Georgians. South Ossetia is part of Georgia and the country has the right to fight against separatists. Just think, would your country's government would let separatists do whatever they like to do? I don't think so.
Then why is the NATO always threatening Serbia as soon as they say anything against Kosovo? When Russia supports separatists its called aggression, but when USA supports separatists its called fighting for human rights!
Very good question! The reason the US justified Kosovo's independence is that the United Nations charged Serbs for genoside(civilian mass graves, etc.) of ethnic Albanians. ... Some people think that Georgia supports Kosovo independence, which is wrong.
The truth is that both Georgia and Serbia became victims of superpower countries. This is nothing else than arrogance and selfishness in geo-politics.
I think the US justified Kosovo's independence because they hope for another allie they can build theyr bases on in fact they already have bases in Kosovo. The point here is thet Georgia (even though Russia warned them) attacked South Ossetia and killed over 1500 South Ossetian civilians then when Russia counter attacked the whole world accused them of aggression, genocide, terrorism and god knows what else. Continued below.
Now imagine if Serbia attacked Kosovo like this, aggressive as the US are i think they whould attack Serbia without question but then the world whould cheer to them and say how the US are defending peace and fighting for human rights. So in other words no matter what Russia does its bad and no matted what the US does its good.
There is no 1500 SO casualties. According to the latest news by Human Rights people, causualty number is no more than 150. Georgia attacked rebels who have been shelling ethnic Georgians for years and years., not civilians. Russia wants to justify its games. Even rebels deporting ethnic Georgians. If the things goes like that, Russia is not going to win anything.
We both know thet Georgias attack was never about South Ossetia or any rebels. The only real perpose was to provoke an armed response from Russia, it was a indirect aggression by the pentagon and the pro US Georgian government on Russia. Just think about it, Georgia was warned countless times thet South Ossetia is under Russias protection so why whould a tiny country like Georgia attack a superpower, whould you start a war that you know you can not win?
you must be discoraged for the things that probebly you are lost and confused. I even can tell, your nick is Communist. They were Communists who created autonomius republics like Kosovo, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, North Ossetia, etc., that brought so many problems everywhere. It was Communist mentality who controlls media. The western media is free from government and they do their best. This people up their do not say, how thier terrorist people bomb and shooting Georgians.
It was the US and the NATO who accepted Kosovos independence not Communists, The US claimed that Kosovo has the right to become an independent state so how come South Ossetia doesnt, but Kosovo is pro US and South Ossetia is pro Russian thats why Kosovos independece was accepted right away and South Ossetias wasent.
But they committed genoside now, Georgian attacks were clearly aimed at civilians, and still the NATO is defending them and tryind to justify theyr actions. Saddam killed 150 people and they executed him for it, Saakashvili killed over 1500 people but they are defending him, what kind of logic is that?
So the conclusion is the same: no matter what the US does its good and no matter what Russia does tis bad, when the US removes a war criminal its good but when Russia tryes to remove a far greater war criminal its bad.
Yes Human Rights representatives from USA and western Europe. I just cant see a reason why whould the Russians lie about this or why whould Russia attack Georgia without any logical reason, what whould the Russians have from a war with Georgia aside from a waste of resources and millitary potential?
"the country has the right to fight against separatists" who has the rights to kill civilians??? Show me that rights i'll use it too... The thinks you say is a buul shit mate!!! No one have the rights to kill... The Mr.Saakashvilli didn't start this war, it has been started by Mr.Bush, Georgian president is just a stupid toy in the yanke's arms. Every body in europe understand that.
P.S. Is about a 100 years since Georgians abuse Osetians. Please read the history.
Nobody wants to kill civilians. South Ossetian separatists have been abusing Georgians. 6 ethnic Georgian policmen have been killed a mounth ago. Georgia is always ready to peacefully do the things with separatists. Read History? you never been in Georgia. Even my Ossetian friends are emberassed of separatists actions. Many ossetains live everywhere in Georgia, and they are fine. Nobody complains except separatists Kokoiti and his band. And if Russians are peacekeepers wouldnot let them shoot us
My god, we must be insane as a country to continue supporting the Neocon think tank which has resulted in all these wars! They are NOT imaginary, these people are real and they have a gigantic government building in WASHINGTON, DC!! The founder is a son of a Neo-Marxist, Neo-Trotskyist Irving Kristol, just look it up on wiki or do a google search! So william kristol or bill was his son and the MAIN pro-war hawk in the govt until he said too much about the real goals of neocons which is ETERNAWAR
you want to see soviet censorship on youtube ? Just go to dmitry1989davydov youtube videos and say pro american posts and you will see them all dissapear quick and you will be banned from posting their. believe me i know im banned. they dont want their people the have freedom of hearing both sides. sorry soviets will soon be back in the dark ages.
Fact 6: Georgian officials state that no civilians were killed by Russians.
Fact 7: US mass media still act like in "Cold War" time, the same tactics and strategy
Fact 8: Western and US mass media keep "silent" on the 8th Aug. when Georgia bombed Tchinvalli and try to kill any one in the town, and start "media attack" when Russia respond and defend their citizens and peace makers. It seems that they were ready for it. Who's own them??? How they can lie and call themselfs "a messegers of true"?
Fact 1:Russia for ten years has been providing weapons and money to the terrorist in S.O and Ak.
Fact 2: only about 50 Georgian solders went into S.O in pursuit of terrorist's who attacked near Gorti.(30 casualties max including 8 Russian peacekeepers protecting the terrorist's.
Fact 3: Russian (Soviet) army moved 4 motor rifle divisions and 2 tank divisions to positions within 20 klicks of the Georgian border over 3 weeks ago.
Fact1: US provided weapons to Georgia in few years time make a Georgian army most powerfull in this region. The Georgians haven't enough troops to handle all the weapon they recieve.
Fact 2: 22 "Grad" units were bombing Tchinvalli for 6 hours raising this town to the ground, killing kids, eldery people, woomans (inc. pregnant ones), over 1600 civilians die in the first day of this military agression called "Clear Field"
Look Max im not saying your a lier, but please just understand its hard to believe things like 1600 civilians killed when russia wont let and news take pictures of thems bodys except 3 or 4 different ones. and since russia lied about leaving by monday it makes anything russia under supission of more lie's. fact is america would rather be friends with russia and fight the new mafia Al kadia, why does think it should be the bullie of europe, what does it have to gain ?russia should have stopp S.O.
You seems to be not stupid guy. Just think about this: What NATO reaction would be if Russia attack Georgians first, if NATO call Russia "agressor" after defendig Russian citizens and Peace Makers? This is well known fact that Saakashvilli is one of the project of "US democracy". And this is not just an war, this is a INFORMATIONAL WAR. I based in UK and I confirm that mass media keep silent on 8th Aug. when Tchinvalli were destroyed and had "media attack" at 9th Aug. when Russian respond. Why?
It seems to me that Kremlin is looking for a pretext to assault Tbilisi, just before the promised pullout from Georgian territory. Promised, schromised... They were doing similar stunts back in 1968 in Czechoslovakia to justify their invasion and consequent occupation. They have no intention to pull out. It took Czechoslovakia 18 years to get rid of occupiers. It may be not as long in this case, but it will be a long haul if the rest of the world let them get away with it.
Comon!!! Would you compare now USSR and Russia??? If you do then USA is nothing compare to... they still the same USA... They still have "cold war" mentality. And I know why: The internal quality of russians were allways much better than americans. It's a fact! The Russia have a great history and roots, americans didn't. And even Chekch president that this could not to be compare due to difference situation. Don't be a stupid, take few books and read yourself. You'll see the difference.
I don't see no diffrence what is going on today. What peacekeeping force Russians are playing? To let someone shoot others? First of all, what History has anything has to do with current events. Secondly, I hate to insult the nation, but if you compare Russian history to Georgian is much diffrence. When Georgians had religion and literature, Russians were climing the trees. I am not going sit and teach todlers like you the world history.
Who is this fuck face of a news anchor???!!! "That's certainly what the Russians want" Really? and you dickhead want WAR???
So sick of the anti Russian propaganda on TV, and Condoleeza Rice is a product of cold war as well. Saakashvilli is a hypocritical bloodthirsty corrupt American lawyer of a Georgian president?!!! Haha... and they show Georgian people supporting him? YEAH RIGHT!!!
Sweet! This girl was unexpectedly true for Fox News (Corrupted governmental fuckers). And after all that someone wanna say something about the freedom of word in American mass media(progovernmental bitches. This cunt was trying to shut them up by all means.
SO PEOPLE DON'T BE FULLED AROUND EUROPIAN AND RUSSIAN Mass Media show the facts not US Governmental FOX NEWS BBC e.t.c
hahaha kgb news service only let the ussr people hear their censored news. ussr dont want its people to hear both sides it would mean they would start using their brain and they wouldnt want that.
FSB (that's one of the intellegence services appeard when KGB was dismissed in 1992) since 1999. yea they changed their name ,sorry i havent cared to keep up with russian spy network name.
Ok. If you blame KGB this is only means that your mentality still "cold war". Russia is different country from USSR now. If you don't know what you talkin about go to South Osetia and have a look yourself, and ask people there what thej think about all this situation. I'm based in UK and watching the news both sides and I'm swear that western and US media was 1 day behind Russian new. And western media take the picture of Tchinvalli from Russian news and says that is Gori. They lie from begining
Not much diffrence. Only foreign cars running the Moscow streets and the West helped you for market economy. I don't see anything the has been improved in terms of disantralization of government, at least 30 journalist have been killed per year, from door man to university professor to suprime court is corroputed, bunch of skinheards, NAZIs, many children are born by alcoholic parents and are living in foster homes, many disabled children. That's Rissia!
I'm from russia and i can watch both russian and american television!!! Can you?
And your chanels are more like old soviet union propaganda! you are realy blind nation and i don't blame you for that! all the impires became a history..... you will be next.
kiryam ,do you even understand english, i think not. this is a USA TV Station showing the other side. USA TV needs comercials to pay for itself. The 12 year old girl told her side of the story the old lady got mad because they had to go to comercial and forgot what she wanted to say when they came back.ROFL
Well certainly you could not say anything else. But you're really stupid if you believe in your own words. That woman said " I know you don't want to hear this..." - and that was about America, and about people like you. You don't want to hear the truth, "sweet" lie is much better, isn't it?
Are you death and dumb dashatina ? yess I heard her say (i know you dont want to hear this0 as he was trying to say he had to go to comerical. We here in the USA have to have comericals to pay for the show. . Unlike in other countrys where the government pay all the news services and you have only side of any story. Just try to think before you post. weve heard both sides can you say that about that about the country your trying to protect?
I know about commercial. But it's not about that. And you know that. Just don't want to hear the truth. And what you are saying now is a real shit. You know that better than me, or you are as stupid as your president and Saakashvili)))
wtf are you a low life warmonger ? everyone heard here say what happened in her mind,yet you go on and on about how their is n freedom here ,how stupid can you get ?
you will never understand because all your TV stations get payed by your government and can't show both sides ever. But I see now why they dont want you to know the truth , your not smart enough to understand even if they painted you a picture.
most people of today look for news on the internet and they know both sides story. also, at least there you know it is owned by government, and you expect pro government side most of the time, but in the us know one know who, what, where, or when. so ...
Россия — священная наша держава, Россия — любимая наша страна. Могучая воля, великая слава — Твое достоянье на все времена! Славься, Отечество наше свободное, Братских народов союз вековой, Предками данная мудрость народная! Славься, страна! Мы гордимся тобой! ... Нам силу дает наша верность Отчизне. Так было, так есть и так будет всегда!
Russia - our sacred Power, Russia - our beloved country. Mighty will, the great glory -- Your heritage for all time! Glory, our free Fatherland, The brotherly people of the century-old Union, Predko this folk wisdom! Slava, the country! We are proud of you! ... We gave our loyalty because Otchizne. So it was, so there will always be so! this just strikes me funny that you use such to prove how bias you really are.
hahaha more blame pushing. sorry dude USA wasnt even close to being their. but i understand when your wrong or guilty of something it common to point your finger at someone else.
your brain dead do you even understand english, i think not. this is a USA TV Station showing the other side. USA TV needs comercials to pay for itself. The 12 year old girl told her side of the story the old lady got mad because they had to go to comercial and forgot what she wanted to say when they came back.ROFL
That woman is telling the real truth, but STUPID people still believe in another version. Because they are shit!!! They are living just for them selfs, like Saakashvili and ueBUSH and Mandaliza. To them money is the only important thing in the world/ They are afraid about them selfs, but they don't care about the other people lives. And I don't want to say "people" when I'm talking about Candaliza, Bush and Saakashvili because they are nothing more than shit!
I wonder do you live in one of the citys that was attacked ? I bet not and all you know is what you want to believe. Do you ever think their might be a different side ? You know 2 sides to ever coin .I believed her story but listening to MORONs like you make me wonder now.
Grow up people! It's not about russians or americans, it's the government. Do you think John the plumber who works in New-York hates russians or Ivan who works as a taxi-driver in St. Petersburgh hates americans? THERE IS NO DEMOCRACY!!! THERE NEVER WAS AND NEVER WILL BE!!!
romeo10alpha 2 years ago
Actually I know plenty Ivans who hate Americans and plenty of Johns who hate Russians. Decades of brainwashing are hard to undo.
Pseudologic 1 year ago
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What a joke. Try to turn on some Russian TV channels, I believe you will see circus coming to your town. There will be shown Mr Putin and his achievements. Yeah, some killed journalist, some Chechnya destroyed, but no, you will not see these things all Russian mass media, they will show you how Tsar Mr Putin is great in his country. When you compare little shit whit big shit, I can tell you that the really big shit is shown on government controlled Russian mass media TV channels
Simaz12345 3 years ago
Georgia (a miserable country)-you lost forever!
DocJosefMengele 3 years ago 2
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2 putan bitchies :) mu aha hahahaa .. skazkiiiiiii ,.. baiu baiu idi naxui russiaaaa :) it will be serves him right that america canada and europ deport all russian from theyer country,however russians dont like this country becose they recognize georgians sovereign :) ... MUTHERFUCKING PUTIN DEPORT GEORGIANS FROM MOSCOW 1 YEARS AGO...
augamitrakasaqme 3 years ago
I was in Helsinki and the embarrasingly pro-georgian CNN coverage was disgusting. Everyone thought Russia invaded Georgia!
Good thing I know the MSM is full of shit. This is nothing more than two mafias fighting over interests in a territory and innocents getting caught in the mix, like always. All political classes are worthless leeches, when are people going to realize this obvious fact.
junior00bacon00chee 3 years ago
Absolutely agree with you. Still when I realize that people can't see such a simple fact I feel myself defeated.
romeo10alpha 2 years ago
Maximka is like a horse thats dying of thrist and you lead him to water, but you can't make him drink.Only instead of water it knowledge.Why did that man Sanikove who fled Tskhinvali to Russia with his dog praised Georgians saying: "good people, hard working much more hardworking than us" And many Ossetians say Georgian Soldiers told us we won't shoot if you do not attack". I am impressed of humane nature of Georgian Army where moral is so high.
wtfcares001 3 years ago
i used to think that american media are neutral further more i loved america as afree good country but not any more i watching directed media falsifying the truth
maha11000 3 years ago
Too many replics of the same video: let's use only this one: watch?v=H8XI2Chc6uQ
And make increase the counter (if youtube allows...).
sergiomazzanti 3 years ago
See the propaganda.... Media makes Black white and white black. He didnt let this child to say the truth. CNN etc..... Bush maggots
pavlov2012 3 years ago
No one was evacuated before the Georgian assault. This information is just another fake, produced by American government. There is a lot of evidence, confirming that Georgian army intended to eliminate Tskhinvali and its population. Representatives of OSCE, who visited South Ossetia, confirmed heavy losses among civillians. And first refugees arrived to Russia on 8 August, which is also confirmed by international organizations. Despite American attempts, the truth can't be concealed forever.
Asdfg2806 3 years ago
Russia evacuated Tskinvali population 5 days prior to the outbreak of conflict! This is fact also covered by Russian TV Channels. Obisouly, Russia was planning to start this war and made all preparations in advance, Russian organization of Human Right Watch reported on the evidence of Osetian refugees in Russia that 17000 Osetians were evacuatred from Tskhinvali to NOrth Ossetia on 2 August, a week prior to the outbreak of the war.. So, who wanted this war? Who was preparing for this war?
wtfcares001 3 years ago
Do you think Russian spy network doesn't do dhey job??? It was clear as day and night that Georgians preparations to ivade in to S.Osetia. And Russia report about it to NATO and UN, is any one respond??? No... Russia try to stop this bloodflow but West and USA want to Georgia to go ahead. Do you really think they care about Georgia??? No.. They only care about themselfs. And very soon Mr.Saakashvilli will be illiminated by them and they blame Russia in it. They all bustards.
Maximka1974 3 years ago
Fact 3: Russia constantly report to EU and NATO that Gorgians make a moovement of massive amount of troops, armoured vehickles, tanks and other military forces to the S.O. borders. Hawe you adecuately respond??? You didn't!!! So Russia respond to protect his citizens.
Fact 4: USA offer a $45 000 000 for Goergian military mashine.
Fact 5: Refugee run away from Georgians towards Russia who you try to blame now.
Maximka1974 3 years ago
And your media does not say anything how Ossetian abuse ethnic Georgians and killed six police officers before the war broke out, and Russian "peacekeepers" standing and watching the drama. I don't think any civilized country would do something like this. This is still Eastern cultured Russia:-)
TuscanianLover 3 years ago
Fact 1: US make Georgians army most powerfull in the region in few years time.
Fact 2: 22 "Grad" units were bombing Tchinwalli for a 6 hours killing every one in this town kids, elderys, woomans (inc. pregnant) and then they turn on the peace makers.
Maximka1974 3 years ago
this girl is a lier.
twentyjan 3 years ago
I hope that this video will help many americans understand what has happened. The georgian army used bombers, multiple rocket launchers and heavy artillery to turn a whole city into burning ruins, killing 1500 innocent civillians, and if Russia didn't come to help, they would have killed even more. It was Russia who protected human rights and democracy there. And american government protects a mass murderer, who must face the international court for his atrocities. Don't let then fool you!
Asdfg2806 3 years ago 4
All we understand is that your government supports terrorists:-)
TuscanianLover 3 years ago
Hawe you ever been to Russia???
ok... if S.Osetians killied 6 policemans as you said this is some kind of "Ok" to kill thousands of woomans, kids and eldery people??? And... it's really funny... Can you immagine "Very small South Osetia abuse the great Georgia (country with greatest army in the region) and supported by another great nation USA to let them destroy they nation" Isn't looks stupid??? It looks like 5 years old kid wants to fight with Mr.Tyson. You and me, we know who to blame...
Maximka1974 3 years ago
I've been everywhere. Nobody wants to shoot civilains, but it has been 18 years since Ossetians abusing local Georgians. South Ossetia is part of Georgia and the country has the right to fight against separatists. Just think, would your country's government would let separatists do whatever they like to do? I don't think so.
TuscanianLover 3 years ago
So Georgia has the right to fight South Ossetia, but Serbia doesnt have the right to fight Kosovo?
CroatianCommunist 3 years ago
My pleasure, Serbia has its rights to fight for Kosovo.
TuscanianLover 3 years ago 4
Then why is the NATO always threatening Serbia as soon as they say anything against Kosovo? When Russia supports separatists its called aggression, but when USA supports separatists its called fighting for human rights!
CroatianCommunist 3 years ago
Very good question! The reason the US justified Kosovo's independence is that the United Nations charged Serbs for genoside(civilian mass graves, etc.) of ethnic Albanians. ... Some people think that Georgia supports Kosovo independence, which is wrong.
The truth is that both Georgia and Serbia became victims of superpower countries. This is nothing else than arrogance and selfishness in geo-politics.
TuscanianLover 3 years ago
I think the US justified Kosovo's independence because they hope for another allie they can build theyr bases on in fact they already have bases in Kosovo. The point here is thet Georgia (even though Russia warned them) attacked South Ossetia and killed over 1500 South Ossetian civilians then when Russia counter attacked the whole world accused them of aggression, genocide, terrorism and god knows what else. Continued below.
CroatianCommunist 3 years ago
Now imagine if Serbia attacked Kosovo like this, aggressive as the US are i think they whould attack Serbia without question but then the world whould cheer to them and say how the US are defending peace and fighting for human rights. So in other words no matter what Russia does its bad and no matted what the US does its good.
CroatianCommunist 3 years ago
There is no 1500 SO casualties. According to the latest news by Human Rights people, causualty number is no more than 150. Georgia attacked rebels who have been shelling ethnic Georgians for years and years., not civilians. Russia wants to justify its games. Even rebels deporting ethnic Georgians. If the things goes like that, Russia is not going to win anything.
TuscanianLover 3 years ago
Thats what reporters like the one above tell you.
CroatianCommunist 3 years ago
We both know thet Georgias attack was never about South Ossetia or any rebels. The only real perpose was to provoke an armed response from Russia, it was a indirect aggression by the pentagon and the pro US Georgian government on Russia. Just think about it, Georgia was warned countless times thet South Ossetia is under Russias protection so why whould a tiny country like Georgia attack a superpower, whould you start a war that you know you can not win?
CroatianCommunist 3 years ago
CroationCommunist,
you must be discoraged for the things that probebly you are lost and confused. I even can tell, your nick is Communist. They were Communists who created autonomius republics like Kosovo, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, North Ossetia, etc., that brought so many problems everywhere. It was Communist mentality who controlls media. The western media is free from government and they do their best. This people up their do not say, how thier terrorist people bomb and shooting Georgians.
TuscanianLover 3 years ago
It was the US and the NATO who accepted Kosovos independence not Communists, The US claimed that Kosovo has the right to become an independent state so how come South Ossetia doesnt, but Kosovo is pro US and South Ossetia is pro Russian thats why Kosovos independece was accepted right away and South Ossetias wasent.
CroatianCommunist 3 years ago
Yes i can see this free western media above. Do you have any reliable source showing South Ossetians shooting and bombing Georgians?
CroatianCommunist 3 years ago
Probebly because the UN did not charge Georgians for genoside. There were ethnic cleansing of Georgians in Abkhazia 1990s war, and SO.
TuscanianLover 3 years ago
But they committed genoside now, Georgian attacks were clearly aimed at civilians, and still the NATO is defending them and tryind to justify theyr actions. Saddam killed 150 people and they executed him for it, Saakashvili killed over 1500 people but they are defending him, what kind of logic is that?
CroatianCommunist 3 years ago
So the conclusion is the same: no matter what the US does its good and no matter what Russia does tis bad, when the US removes a war criminal its good but when Russia tryes to remove a far greater war criminal its bad.
CroatianCommunist 3 years ago
If you want to believe what Russian madia says, I have no reason to argue with you. You ask the Human Rights representatives and tell you everthing.
TuscanianLover 3 years ago
Yes Human Rights representatives from USA and western Europe. I just cant see a reason why whould the Russians lie about this or why whould Russia attack Georgia without any logical reason, what whould the Russians have from a war with Georgia aside from a waste of resources and millitary potential?
CroatianCommunist 3 years ago
"the country has the right to fight against separatists" who has the rights to kill civilians??? Show me that rights i'll use it too... The thinks you say is a buul shit mate!!! No one have the rights to kill... The Mr.Saakashvilli didn't start this war, it has been started by Mr.Bush, Georgian president is just a stupid toy in the yanke's arms. Every body in europe understand that.
P.S. Is about a 100 years since Georgians abuse Osetians. Please read the history.
Maximka1974 3 years ago
Nobody wants to kill civilians. South Ossetian separatists have been abusing Georgians. 6 ethnic Georgian policmen have been killed a mounth ago. Georgia is always ready to peacefully do the things with separatists. Read History? you never been in Georgia. Even my Ossetian friends are emberassed of separatists actions. Many ossetains live everywhere in Georgia, and they are fine. Nobody complains except separatists Kokoiti and his band. And if Russians are peacekeepers wouldnot let them shoot us
TuscanianLover 3 years ago
watch?v=LFCigAmQcwo
HerrMoppel 3 years ago
we all see how hard it is for an american reporter.
LU0RU1 3 years ago
My god, we must be insane as a country to continue supporting the Neocon think tank which has resulted in all these wars! They are NOT imaginary, these people are real and they have a gigantic government building in WASHINGTON, DC!! The founder is a son of a Neo-Marxist, Neo-Trotskyist Irving Kristol, just look it up on wiki or do a google search! So william kristol or bill was his son and the MAIN pro-war hawk in the govt until he said too much about the real goals of neocons which is ETERNAWAR
linnx88 3 years ago
you want to see soviet censorship on youtube ? Just go to dmitry1989davydov youtube videos and say pro american posts and you will see them all dissapear quick and you will be banned from posting their. believe me i know im banned. they dont want their people the have freedom of hearing both sides. sorry soviets will soon be back in the dark ages.
wtfcares001 3 years ago
Fact 6: Georgian officials state that no civilians were killed by Russians.
Fact 7: US mass media still act like in "Cold War" time, the same tactics and strategy
Fact 8: Western and US mass media keep "silent" on the 8th Aug. when Georgia bombed Tchinvalli and try to kill any one in the town, and start "media attack" when Russia respond and defend their citizens and peace makers. It seems that they were ready for it. Who's own them??? How they can lie and call themselfs "a messegers of true"?
Maximka1974 3 years ago
Fact 1:Russia for ten years has been providing weapons and money to the terrorist in S.O and Ak.
Fact 2: only about 50 Georgian solders went into S.O in pursuit of terrorist's who attacked near Gorti.(30 casualties max including 8 Russian peacekeepers protecting the terrorist's.
Fact 3: Russian (Soviet) army moved 4 motor rifle divisions and 2 tank divisions to positions within 20 klicks of the Georgian border over 3 weeks ago.
They planned the whole thing and set up Georgia.
Don't B.S us.
wtfcares001 3 years ago
Fact1: US provided weapons to Georgia in few years time make a Georgian army most powerfull in this region. The Georgians haven't enough troops to handle all the weapon they recieve.
Fact 2: 22 "Grad" units were bombing Tchinvalli for 6 hours raising this town to the ground, killing kids, eldery people, woomans (inc. pregnant ones), over 1600 civilians die in the first day of this military agression called "Clear Field"
Maximka1974 3 years ago
Look Max im not saying your a lier, but please just understand its hard to believe things like 1600 civilians killed when russia wont let and news take pictures of thems bodys except 3 or 4 different ones. and since russia lied about leaving by monday it makes anything russia under supission of more lie's. fact is america would rather be friends with russia and fight the new mafia Al kadia, why does think it should be the bullie of europe, what does it have to gain ?russia should have stopp S.O.
wtfcares001 3 years ago
You seems to be not stupid guy. Just think about this: What NATO reaction would be if Russia attack Georgians first, if NATO call Russia "agressor" after defendig Russian citizens and Peace Makers? This is well known fact that Saakashvilli is one of the project of "US democracy". And this is not just an war, this is a INFORMATIONAL WAR. I based in UK and I confirm that mass media keep silent on 8th Aug. when Tchinvalli were destroyed and had "media attack" at 9th Aug. when Russian respond. Why?
Maximka1974 3 years ago
It seems to me that Kremlin is looking for a pretext to assault Tbilisi, just before the promised pullout from Georgian territory. Promised, schromised... They were doing similar stunts back in 1968 in Czechoslovakia to justify their invasion and consequent occupation. They have no intention to pull out. It took Czechoslovakia 18 years to get rid of occupiers. It may be not as long in this case, but it will be a long haul if the rest of the world let them get away with it.
wtfcares001 3 years ago
Comon!!! Would you compare now USSR and Russia??? If you do then USA is nothing compare to... they still the same USA... They still have "cold war" mentality. And I know why: The internal quality of russians were allways much better than americans. It's a fact! The Russia have a great history and roots, americans didn't. And even Chekch president that this could not to be compare due to difference situation. Don't be a stupid, take few books and read yourself. You'll see the difference.
Maximka1974 3 years ago
I don't see no diffrence what is going on today. What peacekeeping force Russians are playing? To let someone shoot others? First of all, what History has anything has to do with current events. Secondly, I hate to insult the nation, but if you compare Russian history to Georgian is much diffrence. When Georgians had religion and literature, Russians were climing the trees. I am not going sit and teach todlers like you the world history.
TuscanianLover 3 years ago
No more need to talk to you ,your same as that horse.
wtfcares001 3 years ago
*talking*
dashatina 3 years ago
Who is this fuck face of a news anchor???!!! "That's certainly what the Russians want" Really? and you dickhead want WAR???
So sick of the anti Russian propaganda on TV, and Condoleeza Rice is a product of cold war as well. Saakashvilli is a hypocritical bloodthirsty corrupt American lawyer of a Georgian president?!!! Haha... and they show Georgian people supporting him? YEAH RIGHT!!!
caxalinka 3 years ago
Sweet! This girl was unexpectedly true for Fox News (Corrupted governmental fuckers). And after all that someone wanna say something about the freedom of word in American mass media(progovernmental bitches. This cunt was trying to shut them up by all means.
SO PEOPLE DON'T BE FULLED AROUND EUROPIAN AND RUSSIAN Mass Media show the facts not US Governmental FOX NEWS BBC e.t.c
DuffyD1982 3 years ago
watch?v=GqSIXIwGLhI
SEREGA784 3 years ago
Would it be a commercial if she was a Georgian girl?
lipanhi 3 years ago
yes
wtfcares001 3 years ago
Wow... that's fucking RUDE. I guess Americans can't handle the truth. They eat whatever the media feeds them, even if it's a lie.
bathellfire 3 years ago
hahaha kgb news service only let the ussr people hear their censored news. ussr dont want its people to hear both sides it would mean they would start using their brain and they wouldnt want that.
wtfcares001 3 years ago
What you talking about, wtfcares001? What kgb? What ussr? Do you remember, it`s 2008 now. You look fun with your words, man.
osetian555 3 years ago 3
FSB (that's one of the intellegence services appeard when KGB was dismissed in 1992) since 1999. yea they changed their name ,sorry i havent cared to keep up with russian spy network name.
wtfcares001 3 years ago
Ok. If you blame KGB this is only means that your mentality still "cold war". Russia is different country from USSR now. If you don't know what you talkin about go to South Osetia and have a look yourself, and ask people there what thej think about all this situation. I'm based in UK and watching the news both sides and I'm swear that western and US media was 1 day behind Russian new. And western media take the picture of Tchinvalli from Russian news and says that is Gori. They lie from begining
Maximka1974 3 years ago
Not much diffrence. Only foreign cars running the Moscow streets and the West helped you for market economy. I don't see anything the has been improved in terms of disantralization of government, at least 30 journalist have been killed per year, from door man to university professor to suprime court is corroputed, bunch of skinheards, NAZIs, many children are born by alcoholic parents and are living in foster homes, many disabled children. That's Rissia!
TuscanianLover 3 years ago
I'm from russia and i can watch both russian and american television!!! Can you?
And your chanels are more like old soviet union propaganda! you are realy blind nation and i don't blame you for that! all the impires became a history..... you will be next.
SpecOperWar 3 years ago 3
WHY all the comments an views are decrising here??? YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS VIDEO ON THE TOP, yeah??
Oh yeah, i forgot, this is DEMOCRACY... yeaa yea.a..
PrinceKorvin 3 years ago 2
kiryam ,do you even understand english, i think not. this is a USA TV Station showing the other side. USA TV needs comercials to pay for itself. The 12 year old girl told her side of the story the old lady got mad because they had to go to comercial and forgot what she wanted to say when they came back.ROFL
wtfcares001 3 years ago
Well certainly you could not say anything else. But you're really stupid if you believe in your own words. That woman said " I know you don't want to hear this..." - and that was about America, and about people like you. You don't want to hear the truth, "sweet" lie is much better, isn't it?
dashatina 3 years ago
Are you death and dumb dashatina ? yess I heard her say (i know you dont want to hear this0 as he was trying to say he had to go to comerical. We here in the USA have to have comericals to pay for the show. . Unlike in other countrys where the government pay all the news services and you have only side of any story. Just try to think before you post. weve heard both sides can you say that about that about the country your trying to protect?
wtfcares001 3 years ago
I know about commercial. But it's not about that. And you know that. Just don't want to hear the truth. And what you are saying now is a real shit. You know that better than me, or you are as stupid as your president and Saakashvili)))
dashatina 3 years ago
wtf are you a low life warmonger ? everyone heard here say what happened in her mind,yet you go on and on about how their is n freedom here ,how stupid can you get ?
wtfcares001 3 years ago
USA Democracy? WHERE?
kiryam 3 years ago 3
you will never understand because all your TV stations get payed by your government and can't show both sides ever. But I see now why they dont want you to know the truth , your not smart enough to understand even if they painted you a picture.
wtfcares001 3 years ago
most people of today look for news on the internet and they know both sides story. also, at least there you know it is owned by government, and you expect pro government side most of the time, but in the us know one know who, what, where, or when. so ...
SEREGA784 3 years ago
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wtfcares001 3 years ago
Mr. Bush is a lying cant!!! He starts this war and blood of South Osetian people on his nands!!! Saakashvilli just anothet toy in his bloody hands!!!
Maximka1974 3 years ago 2
hahaha more blame pushing. sorry dude USA wasnt even close to being their. but i understand when your wrong or guilty of something it common to point your finger at someone else.
wtfcares001 3 years ago
That is american dimocracy?That is american truth? That is freeedom of speach? Fuck off you country!
Dlinnii21 3 years ago 3
your brain dead do you even understand english, i think not. this is a USA TV Station showing the other side. USA TV needs comercials to pay for itself. The 12 year old girl told her side of the story the old lady got mad because they had to go to comercial and forgot what she wanted to say when they came back.ROFL
wtfcares001 3 years ago
you are just bunch of cowards who affraid of TRUTH,
Zzz120581 3 years ago
you wouldnt know the TRUTH if it hit you in the face
wtfcares001 3 years ago
Did you understood what you said? What's the point of this words? You really don't know what I'm taking about?)))))
dashatina 3 years ago
Ok. Yeah. I thing it is funny. That man and US television can't understand, why people say thnks to Russia. Strange, don't you think so?
Hope you understand me.
:)
MadSquirrelJane 3 years ago
That woman is telling the real truth, but STUPID people still believe in another version. Because they are shit!!! They are living just for them selfs, like Saakashvili and ueBUSH and Mandaliza. To them money is the only important thing in the world/ They are afraid about them selfs, but they don't care about the other people lives. And I don't want to say "people" when I'm talking about Candaliza, Bush and Saakashvili because they are nothing more than shit!
dashatina 3 years ago 6
I wonder do you live in one of the citys that was attacked ? I bet not and all you know is what you want to believe. Do you ever think their might be a different side ? You know 2 sides to ever coin .I believed her story but listening to MORONs like you make me wonder now.
wtfcares001 3 years ago
He do not want to hear, that's true.
Bush said his TV Shash! Democracy... Freedom of speach... Ha-ha-ha!
z09zaa 3 years ago 4