As an exmuslim I cant help laughing at the idioticness of Sami Zaatari. He simply Assumes that Jesus had an islamic 'gospel' message. He simply Assumes that this so-called gospel has somehow left not one single manuscript in the historical record. His assumptions belong to the toilet.
@yastunt that's what i think,also i've thought that it was the very muslims who let the Torah be corrupted because,Muhammad had a truth torah in his hands according to hadiths(he said that was the word of god, so we must suppose that Torah said Ishmael was the one elected for the covenant,the kaba was built for Abraham etc etc).So the muslims did have a real torah on his hands,yet they were so busy taking care of the quran that they totally forgot preserving the very basis of the religion
@yastunt which is the Torah,I mean if they had kept a single manuscript of that Torah,christian and Jews would have a good issue to discuss,but they don't have a single manuscript of that Torah muhammad had.So they failed protecting the Torah from the christians,because christian had the corrupted torah since it started because part of the strogest arguments of christians is the predictions from OT,so christian were the first who corrupted it and the they let us corrupt even the one they had WOW
@HianJ0 There Were jews living in Arabia at the time of Mohammed and they Did have the torah. Mohammed and the first muslims simply Assumed that the torah that the jews had was corrupted. More importantly - the old testament had prophecies that clearly predict the coming of the Messiah and give specific details of His life and death. Mohammed and his followers in their infinite stupidity simply Assumed those prophecies were hoaxes. Islam cannot explain Isaiah 53.
wow ..... i love it when muslim use this idiotic logic of where did Jesus say i am God ..... well can we for a moment just use this logic against them and ask , if you believe he is the messiah ... where did he say i am the messiah ( in the bible ) by this erroneous logic islam is a lie of the devil
yes you can refute him here but not in front of thousand people .. so keep the Christians happy with these kind of tricks. Suites you all..waw James didn't refute him on stage.
yes you can refute him here but not in front of thousand people .. so keep the Christians happy with these kind of tricks. Suites you all..waw James didn't refute him on stage.
@23focus24 Jesus in Islam is not a great prophet, he is a complete failure that couldnt get a single thing done: message lost, Islamic legacy lost, disciples lost. Whatever we know about the islamic Jesus is the few things that are in the Quran about him, which isnt much. His injeel never saw the light of day and it was hopelessly changed. His disciples were a bunch of incompotent fools that couldnt spread his Injeel properly. Thats exactly what Islam teaches. So "great prophet"? I think NOT!
@Nakdimon316 hahaha it is your Jesus in the bible is total failure especialy when you claim he is your God, John 5:30 I can of myself do nothing :) he even couldnt escape Jews so they caught him beat him spit of his face and hanged him on a tree
@23focus24 Obviously you have not watched the videos you comment on, because in this series I debunk your complete misuse of John 5:30. Furthermore, he foretold his death and resurrection and said that if he wanted he could escape his death by the hands of his jewish brothers in Matthew 26. lastly, his death and resurrection were a complete victory, since it brought salvation to the world. What did the Islamic Isa do? I suggest u watch my video on the Islamic Isa. He is pathetic, like Muhammad.
@Nakdimon316 trying to find excuses for the wickness and the death of your God who were on the run all the time is total failure, so this is your way to refute others ? is by insulting ? this shows how low level you are and how Empty you are, I saw your Videos it is total comedy show u r nothing but a loser (Proven)
@23focus24 As I said, the Yeshua conquered death and was completely victorious. But in your religion your Isa is completely worthless. What did he achieve? Seriously, tell us. He came, he was hunted down and vanished when they tried to kill him, his disciples couldnt protect his message from corruption (this isnt the view of the Quran but of later Muslims who found out that the Quran contradicted the Bible) nor spread it and his message was lost. WHAT DID HE ACCOMPLISH?
@Nakdimon316 hahaha u compare between Prophet and your God :) tell me your God message is with Catholics or Protestants or Orthodox !? Due to first Christians Jesus were not killed, he is Prophet, Mary Magdalena were one of Disciples read Gospel of Thomas, Peter, Mary also (Nag Hammadi scriptures) and u will know why they were rejected by pagans
@23focus24 LOL. By appealing to the Nag Hammadi finds, you have just exposed your ignorance of what they contain! The Nag Hammadi fully and utterly support the crucifixion and resurrection and Deity of Yeshua! you are just parrotting what you heard from others without even checking the info for yourself. But more importantly. by appealing to the Nag Hammadi finds, you have conceded that the first Christians believed in the death recurrection and deity of Jesus and THUS the Quran is FALSE!
@23focus24 Not only that, but I encourage you to check the videos on the Nag Hammadi where I school your muslim brother Gomerozdubar who has been lying about the Nag Hammadi and the scholars of the Nag Hammadi, attributing things to them that they have never said or done. All the videos on my channel about the Nag Hammadi have the name of Gomerozdubar in the titles. Go and check, see and weep!
I am sure you Nak are drunk, first try to ascribe any of the Gospels to their supposed writers and by the way there is reward 100 000 USD who will be able to do that, Imagine you will prove your Gospels to have source and take 100000USD go to Muslim Christian Dialogue 2
@23focus24 Yes AUTHENTIC GOSPELS. Even according to the Quran they are authentic. If they arent, then what are Surah 7:157 and 5:46-48 talking about? If we are to judge by the injeel, then which injeel are we to go to, if it were no longer authentic? And if we are to find Muhammad in the Injeel, then which injeel are we to go to we no longer had it in the 7th century? Cuz we know which injeel was there in the 7th century, We have manuscript evidence. SO which injeel is the Quran talking about?
@Nakdimon316 it talks about the real Injil that were send through Jesus may peace be upon him not the one which were corrupted by christians and Jews which Quran also mentions, get it or should I repeat ?
@23focus24 So are you saying that the real injeel was uncorrupted in the 7th century? then when did it supposedly get corrupted? WHEN? Please tell us so we can have a blast with this catch-22 question.
@Nakdimon316 when you find the real Gospel by Jesus then you can tell me when it were corrupted but since you dont know who wrote the four Gospels which you use then dont ask such silly Questions like when it were corrupted :)
@23focus24 In other words you cant answer my question without shooting yourself in the foot and destroying the Quran and the credibility of your prophet and thus your religion. thanks for the admission. I know who wrote the Gospels. Our tradition tells us that it was Matthew who wrote Matthew, John who wrote John and they were disciples of Yeshua. Luke was a foremost companion of the disciples and Mark was a student of Peter. And those documents were the product of the first believers.
@Nakdimon316 hahaha you dont know who wrote the Four Gospels all what u do is assumptions, and the Holy Quran perfectly expose corruption of the bible and corruption in your beleives and all types of Shirk you christians do
@23focus24 Wrong! Where does the "holy" Quran expose corruption of the Bible? Where? There is not ONE verse in the Quran that says that the Bible is corrupted. Go ahead and quote 2:79 so you can get schooled on your own "holy" book.
All 4 gospels are questionable since No Biblical scholar or historian can say of a surity that the names ascribed to them are the actual authors. It is only conjecture to say the gospels were written by Mark, Luke, Matthew and John. I do not know why Christians put their faith in gospels that are unamed and unknown in origin
@doner6 matthew, john are disciples ----- matthew levi ----- book of matthew, john boanerges ------ books credited to john including 1 2 john, and revlations, mark is john mark ---- mark not sure but i have read he is a disciple too
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Nakdimon, I'm certain that I've seen your name in Prince's PalTalk room. Am I correct?
The dangerous game of semantics which Muslims love to play, will be silenced by a Holy God. I understand that the allah that Muhammad created was just "one of the guys", and sin is sunnah in islam, but when God declares His perfect Holiness, He is not playing a word game. Sin is so serious that He gave His only begotten Son, Christ Jesus. Thieves cannot hijack YHWH's Salvation; only fools try. :-(
i was gonna' forward this to you. glad you have this. nakdimon spends some time at answeringmuslims. a couple of the mohammedans over there are saying they won't debate certain people 'cuz they frequent cp's paltalk room. they accuse cp of being vulgar,,, but he's just showing how vulgar their pedophile prophet was
I was surprised that you didn't send this vid to me; you're so good about making sure that I miss nothing. But, it is 3:15 a.m., and I couldn't go to bed until I heard every one of them. LOL - I'm usually in bed by midnight, but Nakdimon knocked a big dent in my schedule.
As an exmuslim I cant help laughing at the idioticness of Sami Zaatari. He simply Assumes that Jesus had an islamic 'gospel' message. He simply Assumes that this so-called gospel has somehow left not one single manuscript in the historical record. His assumptions belong to the toilet.
yastunt 8 months ago
@yastunt that's what i think,also i've thought that it was the very muslims who let the Torah be corrupted because,Muhammad had a truth torah in his hands according to hadiths(he said that was the word of god, so we must suppose that Torah said Ishmael was the one elected for the covenant,the kaba was built for Abraham etc etc).So the muslims did have a real torah on his hands,yet they were so busy taking care of the quran that they totally forgot preserving the very basis of the religion
HianJ0 8 months ago
@yastunt which is the Torah,I mean if they had kept a single manuscript of that Torah,christian and Jews would have a good issue to discuss,but they don't have a single manuscript of that Torah muhammad had.So they failed protecting the Torah from the christians,because christian had the corrupted torah since it started because part of the strogest arguments of christians is the predictions from OT,so christian were the first who corrupted it and the they let us corrupt even the one they had WOW
HianJ0 8 months ago
@HianJ0 There Were jews living in Arabia at the time of Mohammed and they Did have the torah. Mohammed and the first muslims simply Assumed that the torah that the jews had was corrupted. More importantly - the old testament had prophecies that clearly predict the coming of the Messiah and give specific details of His life and death. Mohammed and his followers in their infinite stupidity simply Assumed those prophecies were hoaxes. Islam cannot explain Isaiah 53.
yastunt 8 months ago
wow ..... i love it when muslim use this idiotic logic of where did Jesus say i am God ..... well can we for a moment just use this logic against them and ask , if you believe he is the messiah ... where did he say i am the messiah ( in the bible ) by this erroneous logic islam is a lie of the devil
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
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yes you can refute him here but not in front of thousand people .. so keep the Christians happy with these kind of tricks. Suites you all..waw James didn't refute him on stage.
muhammadnazim121 1 year ago
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yes you can refute him here but not in front of thousand people .. so keep the Christians happy with these kind of tricks. Suites you all..waw James didn't refute him on stage.
muhammadnazim121 1 year ago
Thank you for sharing Nakdimon ! you are absolutely clear and right !
mili7i 1 year ago
hahaha nake this is too much smoke
you think that Son of God means he si God the Son!? lol
Jesus in Islam is great Prophet and in bible it is same
23focus24 1 year ago
@23focus24
REFUTE NAKDIMON OF YOU HAVE GUTS INSTEAD OF DOING BLAH BLAH
jamesannaswamy 1 year ago
@23focus24 Jesus in Islam is not a great prophet, he is a complete failure that couldnt get a single thing done: message lost, Islamic legacy lost, disciples lost. Whatever we know about the islamic Jesus is the few things that are in the Quran about him, which isnt much. His injeel never saw the light of day and it was hopelessly changed. His disciples were a bunch of incompotent fools that couldnt spread his Injeel properly. Thats exactly what Islam teaches. So "great prophet"? I think NOT!
Nakdimon316 1 year ago
@Nakdimon316 hahaha it is your Jesus in the bible is total failure especialy when you claim he is your God, John 5:30 I can of myself do nothing :) he even couldnt escape Jews so they caught him beat him spit of his face and hanged him on a tree
23focus24 1 year ago
@23focus24 Obviously you have not watched the videos you comment on, because in this series I debunk your complete misuse of John 5:30. Furthermore, he foretold his death and resurrection and said that if he wanted he could escape his death by the hands of his jewish brothers in Matthew 26. lastly, his death and resurrection were a complete victory, since it brought salvation to the world. What did the Islamic Isa do? I suggest u watch my video on the Islamic Isa. He is pathetic, like Muhammad.
Nakdimon316 1 year ago
@Nakdimon316 trying to find excuses for the wickness and the death of your God who were on the run all the time is total failure, so this is your way to refute others ? is by insulting ? this shows how low level you are and how Empty you are, I saw your Videos it is total comedy show u r nothing but a loser (Proven)
23focus24 1 year ago
@23focus24 As I said, the Yeshua conquered death and was completely victorious. But in your religion your Isa is completely worthless. What did he achieve? Seriously, tell us. He came, he was hunted down and vanished when they tried to kill him, his disciples couldnt protect his message from corruption (this isnt the view of the Quran but of later Muslims who found out that the Quran contradicted the Bible) nor spread it and his message was lost. WHAT DID HE ACCOMPLISH?
Nakdimon316 1 year ago
@Nakdimon316 hahaha u compare between Prophet and your God :) tell me your God message is with Catholics or Protestants or Orthodox !? Due to first Christians Jesus were not killed, he is Prophet, Mary Magdalena were one of Disciples read Gospel of Thomas, Peter, Mary also (Nag Hammadi scriptures) and u will know why they were rejected by pagans
23focus24 1 year ago
@23focus24 LOL. By appealing to the Nag Hammadi finds, you have just exposed your ignorance of what they contain! The Nag Hammadi fully and utterly support the crucifixion and resurrection and Deity of Yeshua! you are just parrotting what you heard from others without even checking the info for yourself. But more importantly. by appealing to the Nag Hammadi finds, you have conceded that the first Christians believed in the death recurrection and deity of Jesus and THUS the Quran is FALSE!
Nakdimon316 1 year ago
@23focus24 Not only that, but I encourage you to check the videos on the Nag Hammadi where I school your muslim brother Gomerozdubar who has been lying about the Nag Hammadi and the scholars of the Nag Hammadi, attributing things to them that they have never said or done. All the videos on my channel about the Nag Hammadi have the name of Gomerozdubar in the titles. Go and check, see and weep!
Nakdimon316 1 year ago
hahahaha Authentic Gospels !? :)
I am sure you Nak are drunk, first try to ascribe any of the Gospels to their supposed writers and by the way there is reward 100 000 USD who will be able to do that, Imagine you will prove your Gospels to have source and take 100000USD go to Muslim Christian Dialogue 2
23focus24 1 year ago
@23focus24 Yes AUTHENTIC GOSPELS. Even according to the Quran they are authentic. If they arent, then what are Surah 7:157 and 5:46-48 talking about? If we are to judge by the injeel, then which injeel are we to go to, if it were no longer authentic? And if we are to find Muhammad in the Injeel, then which injeel are we to go to we no longer had it in the 7th century? Cuz we know which injeel was there in the 7th century, We have manuscript evidence. SO which injeel is the Quran talking about?
Nakdimon316 1 year ago
@Nakdimon316 it talks about the real Injil that were send through Jesus may peace be upon him not the one which were corrupted by christians and Jews which Quran also mentions, get it or should I repeat ?
23focus24 1 year ago
@23focus24 So are you saying that the real injeel was uncorrupted in the 7th century? then when did it supposedly get corrupted? WHEN? Please tell us so we can have a blast with this catch-22 question.
Nakdimon316 1 year ago
@Nakdimon316 when you find the real Gospel by Jesus then you can tell me when it were corrupted but since you dont know who wrote the four Gospels which you use then dont ask such silly Questions like when it were corrupted :)
23focus24 1 year ago
@23focus24 In other words you cant answer my question without shooting yourself in the foot and destroying the Quran and the credibility of your prophet and thus your religion. thanks for the admission. I know who wrote the Gospels. Our tradition tells us that it was Matthew who wrote Matthew, John who wrote John and they were disciples of Yeshua. Luke was a foremost companion of the disciples and Mark was a student of Peter. And those documents were the product of the first believers.
Nakdimon316 1 year ago
@Nakdimon316 hahaha you dont know who wrote the Four Gospels all what u do is assumptions, and the Holy Quran perfectly expose corruption of the bible and corruption in your beleives and all types of Shirk you christians do
23focus24 1 year ago
@23focus24 Wrong! Where does the "holy" Quran expose corruption of the Bible? Where? There is not ONE verse in the Quran that says that the Bible is corrupted. Go ahead and quote 2:79 so you can get schooled on your own "holy" book.
Nakdimon316 1 year ago
All 4 gospels are questionable since No Biblical scholar or historian can say of a surity that the names ascribed to them are the actual authors. It is only conjecture to say the gospels were written by Mark, Luke, Matthew and John. I do not know why Christians put their faith in gospels that are unamed and unknown in origin
doner6 1 year ago
@doner6 matthew, john are disciples ----- matthew levi ----- book of matthew, john boanerges ------ books credited to john including 1 2 john, and revlations, mark is john mark ---- mark not sure but i have read he is a disciple too
and luke is a follower andan eye witness
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
PS clay birds is an old gnostic heresy maybe gospel of Thomas or Mary , who knows!
yes, you just mentioned the date! Good
meggy8868 2 years ago 3
Nakdimon: Thank You so glad to have found your debates. I always listen and take notes when you are on "Why I am Not a Muslim.'
I appreciate your clarity, scholarship, and respectful treatment of the subject.
meggy8868 2 years ago 3
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cool
Daysiqa 2 years ago
excellent. This is going to be great
KeithTruth 2 years ago
HALLELU-YAH to the LAMB of GOD
hannahr77 2 years ago 2
Nakdimon, I'm certain that I've seen your name in Prince's PalTalk room. Am I correct?
The dangerous game of semantics which Muslims love to play, will be silenced by a Holy God. I understand that the allah that Muhammad created was just "one of the guys", and sin is sunnah in islam, but when God declares His perfect Holiness, He is not playing a word game. Sin is so serious that He gave His only begotten Son, Christ Jesus. Thieves cannot hijack YHWH's Salvation; only fools try. :-(
SGl963 2 years ago
i was gonna' forward this to you. glad you have this. nakdimon spends some time at answeringmuslims. a couple of the mohammedans over there are saying they won't debate certain people 'cuz they frequent cp's paltalk room. they accuse cp of being vulgar,,, but he's just showing how vulgar their pedophile prophet was
G d bless you
opntheirhartzJesus 2 years ago
I was surprised that you didn't send this vid to me; you're so good about making sure that I miss nothing. But, it is 3:15 a.m., and I couldn't go to bed until I heard every one of them. LOL - I'm usually in bed by midnight, but Nakdimon knocked a big dent in my schedule.
SGl963 2 years ago
Good stuff brother!
There is no way Sami's arguments will hold up to this kind of point-by-point post debate analysis.
YHWHisElohim 2 years ago 3