Iran's growing influence in Syria - Nov 15 2007

[kylieminoguerocks]

its not the international community its the americanational community

[ToeInspector]

mmmm zima

[Mahmood42978]

it's ok when you pay jizya, you'll be changing your tune :D

[arabu2005]

fuck you , and your nation ...

[sheshe670]

long live peace in syria iran lebanon and all of the countries around the world

[toofanii]

Syrians are closer to Iranians than gulf arabs. And the reporter makes a wrong statement. Sham is based on the Iranian khodro car. Syrians will produce good cars.

And on paper as that british bitch says it, we are the same people, the british have tried to divide us by carving up the region with their filthy hands..

[SAMAND88]

it's an iranian car u dimbass

[mingalabaa]

Yeah Shia and Sunnis' living side by side UNDER SUNNI's rule. Admit it.

[arabu2005]

date in mortii mati de muist..ce dreq te bagi in seama?

[Truegeeza]

Its only the US that likes distinguishing between Sunni and Shias, For years Shias and Sunnis were living side by side without any problems until you have this so called war on terrorism to seperate different faiths even more. The Sunnis and Shias should work together and help improve their economy.

[red44ever]

Bunch of uneducated bastards the lot of ya!!! the only argument you lot seem to have is ohh their shia were sunni... and who ever suggested iran is using syria for money (okay lets be realistics if everything its da other way round) and two y cant to islamic states (forget the shi and sunni thing) be close allies... y is it always questiones huh

[TalibansRus]

THESE PILGRIMS HAVE BEEN COMING 2 SYRIA FOR 1400 YEARS

U STUPID QATAR MONARCH AND JEWISH ISRAELI SHARE HOLD NEW NETWORK

SYEDA ZAINAB IS A SHRINE FOR BOTH COUNTRIES

AND QATAR HAS AN ISRAELI EMBASSY FOR OVER 12 YEARS AND ALJAZEERA RECOGNISES ISRAEL

ALL THE ARABS AND FREEMASON MONARCHS ABANDONED SYRIA AND MUSLIMS AND EMBRACED THEIR Protectors

white Israel

[TalibansRus]

WE HAVE DONE THE CALCULATIONS AND WE ARE THE PEOPLE OF JESUS - THE COURAGEOUS LIONS OF ISLAM

WE HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSIONS WITH CONcRETE PROOF

THAT WE WILL RESIST

RESISTANCE TILL VICTORY

THERE IS NO OTHER WAY

OUR RACE AND SURVIVAL DEPENDS ON IT.

OUR ENEMY IS WEAK

NOT EVEN THEIR NUKES SCARE US, BUT OURS SCARE THEM

LONG LIVE HAMAAS, HEZBALAAH, SADRIYA, IRAN REV GUARDS AND AQ

whites out of PAlestine/Afghanistan

[gabiotta]

Such a shame to hear such angry, pained rhetoric from aother human being. All of the beliefs that fire this muslim/chritian conflict that is ruining our fragile little planet are based on dark ages mythology that really shouldn't have a place in the modern world. It makes me so so unhappy. I wish you happiness brother, i wish you peace and i hope that you can put this foolishness behind you.

[parsizaban]

great report!

[okasha88]

fuck syrians are sunni not shia.

we can never have a 100% relationship with iranis because of this

[sxcsoori]

if onli iran was a sunni countri.. relations would have been must better syrian pride

[Pokhton]

salam from afghanistan to our muslims brothers in syria forget iran

[TalibansRus]

u are my slave

Iran will soon Insallah Flatten you Fuken Slaves of America if you dare launch an Attack on IRan

and the same goes for Iraq or any Arab country that dares to be a slave for America and Israel

We will jus nuke you , kill your white masters

and take your land

so shut up and clean up the black american slaves toilet

[Pokhton]

your khomanei was a pedophil fuck your bloody sadomaso ashura fuck your shia fuck all kafir shia,ask your khomanei for a sex change ugly transexuel bastards

[69nopitty]

Good on you IRAN GOD bless you and SYRIA. FUCK all DEVIL jews and AL Jazeera net. IRAN and SYRIA are the real MUSLIMS. not like Dubia, Kuwait, Iraq, Sudia Arabie are fuckin money hungry people, America ownes it all, but america wants to take over IRAN & SYRIA, it cant do anything about it. GOD BLESS IRAN and SYRIA.

[Boojaffar]

Ay Wallah

[GR430]

you are stupid, you really think iran and Syria are friends ?? hahahAHAHAHAHahahaha good one looool, we are only using eachother khayo!!

[priam1985]

But because Muslims try to salvage a shred of dignity after two centuries of rape, theft and occupation by Europeans, they have become 'fascists'? When the Germans asked for the Jews of North Africa to be handed over, the Bey of Tunis said any Muslim who betrayed his Jewish brothers would be executed. Vichy France and Italy willingly collaborated in the Fascist Holocaust. But don't let history get in the way of some Holywood-style Muslim defamation.

[priam1985]

My own race, the Anglo-Saxon English, stole one quarter of the globe's land mass from it's native inhabitants under the guise of preaching the gospel, and raped the stolen lands for hundreds of years, looking on with callous indifference as countless millions starved to death, notably in Ireland and Bengal. The Americans killed over 4m Vietnamese in the 1970s because they had a different ideology - Communism.

[priam1985]

Using a papal mandate the Spanish subjugated, enslaved and murdered millions of native Americans to propagate Christianity. The Americans used biological weapons to destroy the 'pagan savages' of North America, and enslaved over 4million Africans using the Aristotelian justification that they didn't have a soul and were not Christian.

[ozahid]

Since when does nationalism and Islam mix, ass?

[sirwallaby]

screw shia and screw iran,i pray to god everyday that america attacks iran and sends em to da stone age.

[farazilu1]

what an ignorance by a Al-Jazeera, Syeda Zanab is equally important in all sects of Muslims, other don't travel there because they prefer going MaKKah and Madeena because that carry more deed.

[brick4sale]

Listen to you, stop watching all those martyr videos.

[AbuTourab]

ISLAMIC UNITY !!!

[MustafaPresents]

The existence of these shrines throughout the Muslim world, where they call upon the dead, are an embarrassment.

[jaunkarachi]

And your existence is an embarrasment to Islam.

[MustafaPresents]

If by "Islam" you mean your Hindu-influenced deviant "cultural religion," then I agree with your statement.

[jaunkarachi]

Shrine is a Hindu Influence?. If your so quick to label it as "Hindu influence" then you shouldnt be ignorant about the fact that Hindus cremate their dead ones. Therfore, they can NEVEREVER have Shrines. Visting shrine is as Islamic as it can get And by "Islam" I mean the one which is pure of "fitna creators" like you.

[MustafaPresents]

The word "shrine" connotes more that places where the dead are buried. Certainly Hindus have shrines.

And in this case I'll wear your accusation of "fitnah" as a badge of honor.

[schwingrocker]

This kind of commitment and hard work in an arab (the street trader) is typical; where else can you find a mere street trader learning another language to sell more of his products?

[bilehas]

Well may beloved people, am so happy we are all excited and committed to this topic.

We need to know what history teach us. The faith of Israel is doomed, whether you like it or not. Why? Peace or war. Do or die. If peace come and that little peace shit land is given to the yahud (let say we do). We will go to Israel by tourist visa, by student visa and work visa and  the shit out their women wish mean more Arab babe in Israel

[konagnu]

Aloha Ali,

I see from your note to me that Mohammad truly was a messenger of peace, love and forgiveness.

I will pray for you and hope that hate will leave your heart and you and your fellow Muslims can learn to live with your neighbors in harmony.

Bless you,

[dohship]

Well Said Mr. Abdullah Dardari Deputy minister of Economic Affairs.

Serias neighbors? who Iraq? or Perhaps Lebron? Maybe Jordan? hmmm in Reality these Countries have a Historic ties which no political Giant can diminish way before America was thought of.

[konagnu]

Your understanding of the history and outside influences is limited. The British and French carved out the arbirtary borders of Syria, Lebanon Egypt et al after the defeat of the Ottoman Empire after WWI. Political giants can and have have influenced (including diminishment and enhancement) "historical" ties in the region. Try World War IV by Norman Podhoretz.

[wb678]

America is FASCIST!

[konagnu]

Clearly, you have no idea what "fascist" means.

Take the time to educate yourself on both sides of these issues, then you can base your views on an educated basis rather than knee-jerk comments that illustrate how ignorant you are.

[jklasdfjdfksl]

biggest characteristic of a fascist state is a state that is run by elite buisness for buisness interests; this certainly applies to the current US. along with expansive war meant to drive up profits, scapegoating of ethnic groups as enemies.

[comodocomodos]

As an American, I hope Iran gets nuclear weapons and the sooner the better. It will prevent another stupid senseless war (like the one in Iraq). Nukes is the reason we never fought and will never fight the Russians. I'd rather the Israelis and Hizbollah fight by proxy. Better them than us.

[vistavision2]

comodo, the problem is that the USA has become Israel's proxie of which the Iraq war (Lebanon likud model) is and the present USA position vs Iran are are both being applied for Israel interests.

The core problem is that Israel likud does NOT graps that Israel interests are to envelope itself with immediate neighbors at peace: To comply with UNSC 242 and secure Israel-Palestine, and Israel-Syria Peace Agreements accordingly is the vehicle to so.

[vistavision2]

It is politically valid of Egypt, Jordan, to be followed by Palestine then Syria as it is militarily valid to extend that Peace frontier of borders.

First, Isreal must accept that the reality that it shall NOT be permitted to acquire terrritory of UNGA 181 State of Palestine east of the greenline through Crimes Against Humanity and contravention to UNSC 242.

[konagnu]

The problem with your analysis is that #1 Hezbollah is an Iranian financed terrorist enterprise. Iran could (and likely would) give a nuclear weapon to Hezbollah. Then the war could come to the US.

[jklasdfjdfksl]

the biggest problem with the "strategic" analysis that it would be disasterous for iran to have a nuclear weapon is based on the idea that iran would attack someone with a nuclear weapon. this makes absolutely no sense, it would be suicide for iran to launch a nuke at israel, or anywhere else. an imagined iranian nuclear weapon could only be good as a deterrent; but of course there is absolutely no proof that iran is even trying to get a weapon.

[crazycatfguy]

You can't quote Podhoretz and expect to be taken seriously. A founder of the Neocon Straussian myth makers. Podhoretz thinks people are stupid and need to be controlled with the kind of stories you tell children about good and evil. The strict Shia sect that run Iran believe possessing a nuclear weapon would send them all straight to hell. They refused to use chemical and biological weapons against Iraq even when Iraq was using them against Iran.

[konagnu]

Obviously you have not read Leo Strauss, also, trying to link Podhoretz to "Neocon-Straussian" myth makers (whatever you may think that is) may sound good to the non informed, however Leo Strauss and Podhoretz are not contemporaries, so some sort of "Neocon" myth making conspiracy would be unlikely if not impossible. Don't like Podhoretz? Try Walid Shoebat, Robert Spencer, Esposito, Gregorian, Manji, Kopping, Lewis.

[crazycatfguy]

Strauss never wrote anything what have you read? Podhoretz and the Kristols believe the rise in crime and out of wedlock births after the Democrat's reforms proved people were too stupid to handle freedom. They were joined by some republicans formerly know as the crazies who believed Strauss had the answer to the problem of how to take freedom away. Replace it with myths about destiny and good and evil.

[konagnu]

You must be referring to Leo Straus if you use the term Straussian and that applies specifically to his philosophy.

Never wrote anything, what planet are you from?

try "Natural Right and History", "Persecution and the Art of Writing", "Thoughts on Machiavelli","History of Political Philosophy". Need more?

[crazycatfguy]

So you now know he believed in perpetual war and using unifying myths to control the masses. Why would you believe any Neocon's excuse for war? Did you learn nothing from Team B and it's newest incarnation the Office of Special Plans? Rumsfeld Wolfawitz had Reagan believing the Soviets had super secret undetectable high tech weapons at a time when they were bankrupt and could not maintain their conventional weapons. Were you surprised there were no WMD's in Iraq?

[konagnu]

Who are you talking about with respect to believing in perpetual wars? You are confused, misinformed. Do you get your information from Michael Moore? surly not form any credible source. Do you also believe the Gov't blew up the WTC?

WMDs in Iraq? Everyone in Congress believed it. France, Germany, Russia, Iranians who were gassed, as well as the Kurds who were gassed believed it. No I was not surprised, Saddam had weeks to move them.

[crazycatfguy]

Don't put words in my mouth. You initially presented yourself well but your lack of any real history has put a crimp in that. Get off your ass and find out what the office of special plans was for. Saddams chemical and biological weapons had a shelf life of 6 months to a year and everyone knew they were useless by the time we invaded. Scott Ritter can explain the whole thing to you if you google him.

[konagnu]

You are still off the point, you started talking about "Neocon Straussian myth makers", then saying Leo Strauss never wrote anything, then when I presented a list of Leo Strauss's writings, You make the statement "So you now know he believed in perpetual war and using unifying myths to control the masses." My response was Who are you talking about? Surly not Leo Strauss? Where do you connect him to OSP (which operated for less than two years beginning in 2002, 30 years after Strauss' death.

[crazycatfguy]

Bottom line. I think you are a troll. Were you as well read as you try to pretend to be my questions would have made sense enough for you to have an answer for them. Yet you don't.

[konagnu]

A troll? This began with your attack on Podhoretz.

You haven't a clue what terms like "Neocon Straussian myth makers" may mean or convey. You still cannot connect the dots between Podhoretz and Strauss (they don't exist other than the possibility that NP read Strauss). Then you ignore other wonderful authors who could never be accused of being "Neocons" who share many of the same conclusions as Podhoretz with respect to Islamofascism.

[crazycatfguy]

The tie that binds all of the original signatories to the Project For a New American Century is Strauss. I know exactly what Strauss taught and see the Neocons following him to the letter.

[konagnu]

PFNAC is nothing more than a think tank, much like the the Cato Institute (libertarian), Heritage Foundation(Conservative) or the Brookings Institution (Liberal). They have no power other than to promote their ideas through persuasion of policy makers. Strauss could not have been a signatory to PFNAC as he was dead decades before it's founding. He at most may have had some influence in the philosophy of some of the contributors to PFNAC.

[konagnu]

Ritter in 1998 he is sure Saddam has WMDs.

In 2000 he received $400,000 from Iraqi American businessman Shaker Al-Khafaji for the financing of his 2000 documentary In Shifting Sands: The Truth About UNSCOM and the Disarming of Iraq. The money came from the U.N. Oil-for-Food program for goods imported into the country in violation of U.N sanctions.

Ritter then claims no WDMs, intelligence agencies from a number of countries disagreed.

We'll never know for sure, one cannot prove a negative.

[crazycatfguy]

Search google video for The Whole Truth About Iraq and see what people in the office of special plans, the pentagon, and the Cia were saying about the weapons while Rumsfeld and Cheney were creating lies.

[konagnu]

I have not seen that video, but I will, I am always open to seeing both sides of an argument. Are you open minded enough to read Podhoretz? Even if you dislike him or his views, remember "know your enemy".

You are clearly intelligent and passionate in your views. Sometimes when one critically examines the other side one's own perspective is validated or strengthened, other times it demonstrates the other side may have a point as well. Sometimes we reach the middle road.

Best wishes.

[jaunkarachi]

Yes, I agree that Hezbollah is Irani financed. But I dont understand that what is the fuss about it?. Isn't IDF American financed?. To us Israel is the biggest danger ti ME.

[konagnu]

If you believe Israel is a danger to you, then I assume you are Palestinian. I think all credible evidence points to the fact that Israel would prefer to live in peace as your neighbor. If you interpret Israel's self defense from annihilation as being a danger to you, then agree to peace. I haven't seen the IDF ever attack with the intent of killing non-combatants (although it happens). where-in the targets of the terrorists are usually civilians. Israel's enemies want them all dead.

[jaunkarachi]

Assumption is the basis on which you are writing crap here. I am NOT Palestenian I am just a sympathizer of their cause.

The evidence that Israel is danger to ME is its expansion into westbank by builting new settlements. Israel is created on a land which Palestenians call their home.They are colonists!

[konagnu]

Sorry my assumption was wrong, it was not made with ill intent. I respect all sides, I just believe debate and questioning all sides is healthy. This site seems to be dominated by one view point, I seek balance.

The Israelis also call that land home and have a 3000+ year history to back their claim. How old is the Palestinian claim? How old is the Palestinian culture? Therein lies the rub, whose claim is more valid? I don't assume to know. But the argument is valid.

[konagnu]

If you will take the time to educate yourself regarding the the danger to the world of IslamoFascism, rather than buy into their propaganda machine, you may recognize the real danger that a nuclear armed Iran would be. Try "The Truth about Mohammad" by Robert Spencer or "Because They Hate" by Brigitte Gabriel.

[comodocomodos]

What's islamofascism? Nobody has ever been able to define that for me. That might be a failure on my part but it seems like the old and transparent trick of calling people you don't like "Hitler."

[konagnu]

Comodo, I don't use "Hitler" in my comments.

I gave you two sources where you can go to get a definition. Read them. The definition is very clear. (or for a quickie definition, simply type Islamofascism into Google) I have spent a lot of my free time over the last three years trying to understand Islam. If you will read most anything about Islam, the goals of "Pure" Islam are clearly stated (including in in the Qur'an and the Hadith) with no ambiguity what so ever.

[comodocomodos]

The term "islamofascist" is a loaded term that reveals the bias of those who use it. Fascism WAS a political movement that is now extinct since no country in the world is currently fascist. When it DID exist, it received enthusiastic support from the Catholic Church. There WERE many Muslims who supported the NAZIs to curb the Zionists. But since there are no more Nazis in power, that alliance is also DEAD.

[konagnu]

Comodo, I see you still have not taken the time to learn why the term "Islamofascist" is in use. It no less descriptive of those who practice it than the term Nazi was to describe it's adherents. Do you believe the term "Nazi", also being loaded term makes it's users biased? Or the term less valid? I would submit that North Korea is a Facist state as is Iran. Please, read, research, then resume your argument from an informed position.

[Descendone]

the term islamofacism is a lazy misnomer promoted entirely by islamophobes such as the contemptuos racists david horowitz, anne coulter,etc. and those of the islamophobic industrial complex such as walid shoebat, ibn warraq,spencer etc. The term doesnt even define the real terrorists properly such as al'qaeda.

[konagnu]

It is always much easier to label brand those with opposing views as racist, in fact the most intellectually lazy way to argue. Political Correctness is a disease that is infecting our culture suppressing debate. Don't hide behind it's skirts. It takes more time and effort to actually read and try to understand how terms such as Islamofacism came into political language today.

[konagnu]

It is uncomfortable for Muslims to recognize that many who share their faith use the Qur'an and Hadith to justify their reigning of terror on their neighbors, to kill and intimidate anyone who "offends" Islam or the Profit (Cartoons, VanGough's murder) and to subjugate women (honor killings, etc.) The term Islamofascism applies to those Muslims. It is clear from the Qur'an and Hadith that the Arabian Peninsula was "converted" to Islam at the point of a sward.

[Descendone]

what should be 'uncomfortable' is the alliance that individuals such as yourself have made with those who wish to see Islam and Muslims vanquished from the earth. These terms have come into language not from any erudite scholars, or politicians but evangelical zionist nuts and right wing islamophobes.

[Descendone]

Anne Coulter a true fascist and one of the most vociferous proponents of the misnomer islamofacism said, "we should invade their countries, kill their leaders and covert them to christianity" whats lazy and politically correct about calling her out as a racists and islamophobe? unless, as is more likely you share her views.

[konagnu]

Where, from my comments could you possibly come to the conclusion that I would want Islam or Muslims vanquished from the earth.

Speaking for myself, nothing could be further from the truth. My wish is that Radical Muslims would respect other religions and treat women with equal rights. When I use the term Islamofacist, I am referring to a specific subset of Muslims who do not conduct them selves in a civilized manner.

[konagnu]

Specifically those Muslims who subjugate, kill or force conversions of people of other religions. The Arabian Peninsula, prior to Mohammad's Message had people of many religions.(Including Jews & Christians) Muslims killed or exiled all of them. Some modern adherents of Islam wish to do the same in all the Middle East and in fact throughout the world. Using force and intimidation is justified in their view of Islam. Those Muslims ARE Islamofascist. That is the definition.

[konagnu]

I notice you avoid addressing the issues of womens rights under Islam, the issue of subjugation of people of other faiths, the justification of killing the Infidel simply for refusing to subjugate or convert to Islam. These subjects are never addressed by defenders of those practices. The technique is to resort to attacking those who question rater than debate the issues.

[konagnu]

Answer these questions if you dare.

Do some Muslims advocate "Honor killings"

Why does a women's testimony as a witness only count 50% of a mans.

Why is it okay to lie to an Infidel?

Why is it okay to take property from an Infidel?

Why is it okay to kill someone for "offending"

Islam (cartoons anyone?)

Why is it okay to kill and Infidel for refusing to convert to Islam or subject them selves to Shaira law?

If you deny this, you are lying and I will give you the references in the Qur'an

[DivineLove247]

America NEVER had a problem with doing Business with Shia Muslim Iran under Shah,So much so that America even offered Iran NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY!

so I cant see why Muslim countries should not do business with fellow Muslim.

[ringersdadingers]

I completely agree. I think that the current situation between America and Iran is making them paranoid about them trading and working with other countries.

[konagnu]

Under the Shah, Iran was a secular state. The rights of minority religions were tolerated by the regime(although political dissent was oppressed). Women had rights, participate in elections,and move about freely without an escort. Further, Iran had no designs to spread Sharia law throughout the world.

Much of the trade between Iran and Syria is in terrorist training. Hezbollah is financed by Iran and trained in Syria.

Ask the Christian Lebonise how they liked doing business with Syria.

[ass711]

well there is no contrast in women's life in iran - they can still vote, still participate in elections (in fact become parliament members - something not possible under the shah), and move freely without escort, the last part about women you mentioned (going without escort) i believe you got confused with saudi arabia, which also doesn't let women drive