SLC punk is a complete capitalist make of modern day PR!!! It's created to sway rockers to forget about their way of life!!! Hence in the end it's clearly try to exploit that anarchy and PUNK isn't the way!!! If your a rocker and like watching pr movies with high dollar celebraties portraying the punk rock life, wrong!!! Now, Have a good day!!! Sorry i hate that movie!!!!!!
@PrLove1988 I would have to disagree. If you watch the ending, he makes a statement like " The ironic thing is that you can do more damage within the system"...so the idea of tearing things down and changing things is not lost...that is, if you are interested in doing so. Your opinion stikes me as somewhat narrow minded. Dressing well and getting an education has no connection to your lifes philosophy...unless your only able to see things for what they are on the surface...and that is too bad
@PrLove1988 you are a fucking joke. The movie isn't trying to exploit shit. You are a pee brained twat that probably goes around screaming about anarchy, which is fucking stupid. Anarchy is stupid, and I can call myself a punk. Punk rock is not about anarchy and destruction, it is about unity and love. It is supposed to be a safe haven for anyone that wants it because it does not judge. Your opinion is invalid, and you and all your hardcore PUNX friends can go choke on Joe Strummer's cock.
@jhavins12 Oh cool you can make a gaybashesque comment. Good job dipshit, and it's not a rant it's calling the other dipshit above you stupid. Btdubs where'd you get Berkley from? Not at all in my retort. Bravo bro. Keep up your nonsensical cooler than you mentality. It will totes get you far in the punx community.
@toddtrimms i havent watched it in a while but if my memories correct its gangsters by the specials. i know that songs in the flick, but not entirely sure if thats the right scene.
who's a homophobo, im just sayn putting labels on things is gay. so go fuck urself... n ppl who jump to fuckn conclusions, are usually the ones wit the problem. sux to be u
you know the real punk thing to do would be to say fuck this video and you guys im goin to get drunk and break something, fuck you! OI!!! wheres my valuum????
Amazing, epic, lovely, wonderful movie!! My FAVORITE! I saw it about two months ago, and I've seen it about...12 times this week? XD I heard this song in the background, looked it up, and it's now one of my favorite songs as of 20 minutes (of listening to it) ago!
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FUCK U POSERS! Slc punk, what? are u kidding me? it's a comedy about two boys who were called salt lake city punks. Like I don't even know where it is, but it's a village,so what am I tryin' to tell u guys. Even that dude with blue hair said it in the end. I don't give a fuck srsl people. this movie is bullshit, yeah it's funny, BUT IT'S NOT TRUE PUNKSTERS BLET.
@rublispunk Watch the movie and actually pay attention, youd see that the movie was made for the understanding that there is no such thing as punk. And there isnt. This fact can be aplied to every label ever in exsistence. There is rebelion. And rebelion is not punk. Rebelion is a state of mind; a lifestyle. Punk is just another form of fuel.
Rebelion does not conform. Labels are a style of conformity. Punk is a label. Therefore, if you want true rebelion the answer is simple. Fuck. Shit. Up.
@xxxwhateverrr okay, let's read that shit again which i wrote. than read yours. isnt thats the same? what am i tryin to tell u that don't give a shit for that movie. ;] cheers
this band rocks, but to kill a classic like this..... come on guys. do a remake of the garbage metallica produced since the black album. they could stand a makeover back to their roots.
ode to my lost teenage years...cum home, leave school early (like at 3rd period :)
come home, turn on alternative radio station(S), get out the duster (people 24 and up remember what i'm talking about) get out the vodka and weed and chill
Hur? " Her" I assume you implied? Name calling, telling people to jump off buildings, shows your imaturity They copied lyrics and melody. Whether someone was being subjective or not. Wait till you're older and have your favorite songs duplicated and sit their and think..What are they doing to that song? "How dare you insinuate that I should tolerate such diabolical insult, you insignificant piece of psycological inginuity? Now go look for your dictionary I have a PHD.
P.p.s Now that I think about it how is your alleged PHD relevant does it make you feel big to hold it over people that you spent 5 years of your life studying something? I hope this has massaged your fragile little ego.
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Wow amazing how a new artist can destroy a classic...How sick!!!! They didn't even do it well. Anyone can have noise behind them and scream the words to a song..NO TALENT!
Well dear there would be no song for them to sing if it wasn't for the original artist. Anyone can take music and make a total mess of the background music and use someone's lyrics and try to sound like they are making it an original. erm...nope not original. get over it and barf. LOL
Actually. I am older and hear many songs remade, or covered. In fact that is a very old tradition. When the Modern Jazz quartet (a early 60's Jazz combo, 'remade' Bach's Air on G string... They elderly called it "evil, and in poor taste and just noise." Now it's classic. There exists NO recording of Beethoven playing 'Moonlight Sonata' But it exists on record. Played by who? Others. many with PHD's in music.
That is a step in a long , long way.I dont know if the anarchy is going to be posibily some day, maybe yes, maybe not, thanks to the capitalism, the society is every day most sadic. But i prefeer to walk the road.
communism and socialism hope that people will do the right thing for the right things' sake and that never pans out. it's not because theyre too materialistic, it's because theyre human! anarchy on the other hand is just rejection of authority because you want to do what you want to do. it is very immature and devoid of wisdom. and thats exactly what punk was about. but sooner or later everyone grows up and realizes they were an idiot in their youth. that's what this movie shows. accurately.
so how much should an industry centralize? or, how big should these firms be? well, the ones that get it right survive and the ones that dont sink. that is capitalism. that way, not only does an industry produce at a sustainable rate via competition, but also, everyone is kept in check by their own incentives to keep the business afloat for their own sakes and make as much money as possible. capitalism takes the reality of the market and the unfortunate truths of human nature and makes them work
the other half is, much to the workers chagrin, it takes a firm to produce. a firm is BOTH the workers and the management/owners. the boss shields the worker from market fluctuations, risk and loss. no worker losses money when the business goes under. but the owner stands to lose millions. in short due to the cost of figuring out market information, some centralization is necessary. but not so much that people lose incentive. which happens the more centralized an industry is.
the best government is one that functions optimally given the ingredients involved. and by ingredients i mean people. when people are involved there will always be a degree of corruption. there will always be self-interest, shirking, and leeching where ever the incentive outweighs the severity and probability of negative consequences. the fact that this is an unavoidable by product of human activity is half of why communism, anarchism and so some degree, socialism will always fail.
i guess what im saying is, no amount of education could prevent a people from being corrupt. people are corrupt by nature. they will cut corners, they will cheat when possible, they will take care of themselves first and if there's any left over, others, but they will always want more. more because of greed and more to be better than their neighbors. i think the anarchy you're describing is actually more like confederacy or something. (the current state of international relations for example).
There are some of truth in what you say, but the corruption responds to a crisis of values of which almost always responsible governments; they shape the system
If a system is corrupt, people are going to be corrupt forever. Even the left.
but I believe that your opinión is massive, i know a lot of honest people.
The road to the anarchy is a long way, very long, is a construction very slow. But in this way can be achieved many interesting things. Here, after a económical crisis of the 2001 (remenber? Five presidents in one month) A bunch of factories went bankrupt, AND their workers took to the factories
And no, their workers are not punks , they never read a book of Chomsky in his life . We are workers and we lived misery here. AND by the times lived, we need not to be scholars to know that the power destreoy all and the capitalism leave us in a second place
why did you delete my comment. im a polly sci major about to graduate i know what im talking about. if i dont then i just wasted 4 years of my life... SOB i couldve played nintendo
do you know what anarchy means?? "a state of society without government or law." socialism is a type of government....... anarchy is the absense of government... and they don't speak negatively about it, they really make the point of "things are f*cked up no matter what's going on...."
and uh anarchy is a state of society where there are no rules. socialism is a form of govt that requires people to work together in a community. anarchy does not equal socialism. a working anarchy may have characteristics of socialism but its not socialism. in socialism i wouldnt steal. in a state of anarchy i could steal.
socialismo estatal o autoritario ( llamado por los anarquistas) que es el ejemplo de Cuba, URSS, etc
Socialismo libertario: que es el que se opone a la existncia de un estado, ahi entra el anarquismo. Ejemplos? España en el 36, Ucrania en 1917, Quizas en parte Chiapas en mexico
y luego tenes a la socialdemocracia, el socialismo "reformista"....
existe un anarquismo que es parte del socialismo como un anarquismo que no lo es parte, qeu es el anarquismo "individualista". Es la oposicion al "comunismo" libertario. el anarquismo es realmente un sinonimo del socialismo. El anarquista es primeramente un socialista cuyo fin es la abolicion de la explotacion del hombre por el hombre
is difficult for me to explain beacuse my english is basic. But in the anarchy the comunitty of equals put the rules.
no rules= chaos, obviusly. Where agree with that. But that is not the anarchism.
That is the "idea" of the punk rock ( most of the bands give an incorrect concept of the anarchy) and the people that doesnt now nothing about the history of the fight of the workers.
In ucraine in 1917, 4.000.000 persons livin under the anarchy.
Again, in Spain in catalonia in the 36', millions of persons livin in lands colectivized, without bosses, without churchs, wichout presidents, without landowner . only the comunity put the rules. Means of production are of the workers ( the real producers).
the anarchy si difficult, is complicated...but no imposible, its depends of the mentality of the society, some societys are very superficials and materialists.
youve gotten your terms mixed up. anarchy is not socialism, nor communism. and a self-governing community is not anarchy, it's a democracy by definition.
anarchy is the absence of an over-arching government imposing laws/rules. it says "do what thou wilt should be the whole of the law." the problem is human nature is intrinsically selfish (with some exceptions) and a hobbesian "leviathan" state would ensue if everyone was left to do whatever they wanted.
there is life out of your country...and out of EEUU the anarchy was posible in many times. The perfection is imposible( nothing is perfect), but the almost perfection not. bakunin, kropotkin, proudhon, chomsky, malatesta, emma goldman.
Please,read something if them if oyu want to know about the ideology, yes?
Anyway, if you dont believe in the anarchy, its ok... but dont give a incorrect information. For that we have the CNN.
And i dont speak only form the books and information, i speak from my experience in a workers life. Here, much of us we never finish the elementary school, we live the real life, and we dont live the "fantasy" life of a student....
in Anarchism/socialism you need to eliminate alot of human qualities such as greed and corruption. if someone has a bunch of guns then bam authoritarian dictatorship-which is sometimes okay- but point being bam no more anarchy/socialism.
in case your wondering if i lived in an ararchy state or socialistic society and i had the oppurtunity to take control i would. so now you cant say people wouldnt do that
i dont think theyre human qualities, they are modifications of human tendencies. and everyone's living in their own little anarchist state. it doesnt need to be extreme, but you recognise it when you do and that is when you attack.
but in many ways i agree with the movie. it's too much of a responsibilty for an individual, or even a little more than a lot of individuals, to achieve succesffuly, without damage to your own personality.
There are a bunch of examples in the history of self, of peoples, communities, including factories that worked so horizaontal, and many of them or knew about the "anarchism." You have to revise the history and for me, the film is the "ixfla" view from the point of view of a child burgues grew up in a bourgeois society. And i speak from the practice and experience, not only from the theory
If you in your country does not happen, does not mean that in other places cannot happen
You douchebags. You don't know what punk is. Punk isn't some thing you walk into fucking Hot Topic and look at in the shelves. Punk is a way of life. It's doing things to the way YOU want to, with heart. MORE HEART. I don't care if the song sounds like shit or it's better than Mozart. They are doing this song because they are doing it with MORE HEART. Enough said, wait til one day when you do something you believe in and just dream of doing, then have them talk shit about it. Again, idiots.
@kchrchk Um. Not really. It's first and foremost a music genre, you know, a title you give a specific style of music. Like the music you see on the shelves when you go into Hot Topic. Anything can be a way of life, but that doesn't make it any more than what it is... More heart? What do you even mean by that ? Just to use an example that you brought up- Mozart worked on his music from early childhood and then on until he died. He died penniless and in debt, but loved his career. That's heart.
It was right after Bob got out of the hospital, and they went home to party. Steve-o as always introducing people... Someone's playing with the stereo and Bob shouts at them to stop touching the effin' stereo. They turned on this song.
SCL Punk, fuck yea and fuck authority!
Joshman13Z 1 month ago
posers!
1507gata 2 months ago
i wish i went crazy on acid ='(
picklezenator 3 months ago
remember seeing this song at st andrews in detroit. great guys great music
jbachmor 5 months ago
I bet Lynn Anderson would like what they did with her song. I especially like the cool intro on this version.
JJayFin 5 months ago
SLC punk is a complete capitalist make of modern day PR!!! It's created to sway rockers to forget about their way of life!!! Hence in the end it's clearly try to exploit that anarchy and PUNK isn't the way!!! If your a rocker and like watching pr movies with high dollar celebraties portraying the punk rock life, wrong!!! Now, Have a good day!!! Sorry i hate that movie!!!!!!
PrLove1988 7 months ago
@PrLove1988 I would have to disagree. If you watch the ending, he makes a statement like " The ironic thing is that you can do more damage within the system"...so the idea of tearing things down and changing things is not lost...that is, if you are interested in doing so. Your opinion stikes me as somewhat narrow minded. Dressing well and getting an education has no connection to your lifes philosophy...unless your only able to see things for what they are on the surface...and that is too bad
damulfo 7 months ago 2
@PrLove1988 you are a fucking joke. The movie isn't trying to exploit shit. You are a pee brained twat that probably goes around screaming about anarchy, which is fucking stupid. Anarchy is stupid, and I can call myself a punk. Punk rock is not about anarchy and destruction, it is about unity and love. It is supposed to be a safe haven for anyone that wants it because it does not judge. Your opinion is invalid, and you and all your hardcore PUNX friends can go choke on Joe Strummer's cock.
m0rtivorsmash 6 months ago
@m0rtivorsmash uhhh, really? Berkley is fucking gay and so are you. Come up with a rant you haven't read before, fruity-pie.
jhavins12 5 months ago in playlist SLC punk soundtrack
@jhavins12 Oh cool you can make a gaybashesque comment. Good job dipshit, and it's not a rant it's calling the other dipshit above you stupid. Btdubs where'd you get Berkley from? Not at all in my retort. Bravo bro. Keep up your nonsensical cooler than you mentality. It will totes get you far in the punx community.
m0rtivorsmash 5 months ago
I don't remember what part of the movie this is in.,
RolyatNoslrac 7 months ago in playlist SLC punk soundtrack
@RolyatNoslrac it when steve-o is introducing everyone in the party :D
iamghostize 6 months ago
best fucking movie ever
BadAssThumbT0ad 7 months ago
Best Dolly Parton Cover Of Life
2Girls1Katie 9 months ago
@2Girls1Katie thats not a dolly parton cover, its a lynn anderson cover
treefitty19 9 months ago
K, in the movie SLC punk there is a scene where there are cops kicking the shit outta bob and stevo what is the song playing??? anyone if so thanks!
toddtrimms 11 months ago
@toddtrimms i havent watched it in a while but if my memories correct its gangsters by the specials. i know that songs in the flick, but not entirely sure if thats the right scene.
deadkennedy3 10 months ago
Fuck yes.
squal3469 1 year ago
who's a homophobo, im just sayn putting labels on things is gay. so go fuck urself... n ppl who jump to fuckn conclusions, are usually the ones wit the problem. sux to be u
odee182 1 year ago
@odee182 stop typing like a 13 year old girl
53Awesome 7 months ago 2
amazing version :D love it along with original lynn anderson!!!
DrunkenPiano 1 year ago
if u where punx u would know that assholes n aint punk cuz labels on things is gay
odee182 1 year ago
@odee182 homophobia aint punk either m8
squidvicious27 1 year ago 5
during steve-o and bobs house party while steve-o is introducing ppl
krtjstr13 1 year ago 3
when does this appear?
JulianGD2009 1 year ago 2
this was in slc punk ?????
when ??
BarrioPunkRock 1 year ago
@BarrioPunkRock
i didn't remember it also xD. but it doesn't matter it's awesome
fussbodenmissgeburt 1 year ago
you know the real punk thing to do would be to say fuck this video and you guys im goin to get drunk and break something, fuck you! OI!!! wheres my valuum????
leftoverpunxxxx 1 year ago
The older you get the better this version gets.......and I am VERY old.
With apologies to Philip Larkin - This Be The Version!
hotblackdes 1 year ago
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rublispunk 1 year ago
Amazing, epic, lovely, wonderful movie!! My FAVORITE! I saw it about two months ago, and I've seen it about...12 times this week? XD I heard this song in the background, looked it up, and it's now one of my favorite songs as of 20 minutes (of listening to it) ago!
homestarrun 1 year ago
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FUCK U POSERS! Slc punk, what? are u kidding me? it's a comedy about two boys who were called salt lake city punks. Like I don't even know where it is, but it's a village,so what am I tryin' to tell u guys. Even that dude with blue hair said it in the end. I don't give a fuck srsl people. this movie is bullshit, yeah it's funny, BUT IT'S NOT TRUE PUNKSTERS BLET.
rublispunk 1 year ago
@rublispunk yeah but its easy to relate to when you grow up some where like that nut it's just a movie but a good one
DrinkDrankPunk72 1 year ago
@DrinkDrankPunk72 yeah, I like it xD
rublispunk 1 year ago
@rublispunk Watch the movie and actually pay attention, youd see that the movie was made for the understanding that there is no such thing as punk. And there isnt. This fact can be aplied to every label ever in exsistence. There is rebelion. And rebelion is not punk. Rebelion is a state of mind; a lifestyle. Punk is just another form of fuel.
Rebelion does not conform. Labels are a style of conformity. Punk is a label. Therefore, if you want true rebelion the answer is simple. Fuck. Shit. Up.
xxxwhateverrr 1 year ago 20
@xxxwhateverrr
I think the main point was more that anarchy is bullshit
bruisedego1 1 year ago
@xxxwhateverrr okay, let's read that shit again which i wrote. than read yours. isnt thats the same? what am i tryin to tell u that don't give a shit for that movie. ;] cheers
rublispunk 1 year ago
@xxxwhateverrr I like your comment :) plain and simple.
RoniePryor 2 months ago in playlist Liked
@rublispunk shut the fuck up Mr. Hardcore lol
illusivetranny 1 year ago
@illusivetranny don't tell me what to do miss Shitcore ;***
rublispunk 1 year ago
@rublispunk Who fucking died and made you the god damned punk elitist? Fuck off coz you're the REAL poser.
screamforska 1 year ago
@screamforska please, don't cry ;((((
rublispunk 1 year ago
@rublispunk Oh piss off. You can go give yourself a shotgun mouthwash since the world is better off.
screamforska 1 year ago
lets go fuck up some skin heads with a baseball bat.
righteousmotherfuck 1 year ago
@righteousmotherfuck LOL .
TaylorLightBright 1 year ago
@MrSneakyd You're a poser if you call yourself a "punk". True punks call themselves "posers"...
xanryoka 1 year ago
@xanryoka the fuck? you're a retard
getstrung 1 year ago
This track plays at the party when Mike bashes a kids face into a wall.
A2Z83 1 year ago
@A2Z83 fucking good bit
MrWillwalker 1 year ago
eh this cover rocks.
A2Z83 1 year ago
this band rocks, but to kill a classic like this..... come on guys. do a remake of the garbage metallica produced since the black album. they could stand a makeover back to their roots.
martialartist34 1 year ago
this song is rad (:
aliceinchains2001 1 year ago
SALT LAKE CITY PUNK
MrLordpain 1 year ago 2
im 22 and i remember dust off and all this shit too. sure takes me back to 2000.
PINKINDIAN151 1 year ago
This version suck ass.
rybkas 1 year ago
best movie in the world!^^
TheBlack313 2 years ago
sean <3 <3 <3 XDD
natali981 2 years ago
mikel,mikel,mikel¡¡¡¡¡
Eliudhu07 2 years ago
SLC punk is THe BEST MOVIE EVER!!!!!!
PirateDiva7143 2 years ago 124
@PirateDiva7143 ya it is
trock365doozie 1 year ago
@PirateDiva7143 dude no joke i watched that movie 13 time in 3 days
NativeViking99 5 months ago 2
@NativeViking99 hahaha because it's that AMAZING
PirateDiva7143 5 months ago
@PirateDiva7143 I LOVE YOU.
MusicIsMyStrength 5 months ago
@MusicIsMyStrength LOVE U2 haha
PirateDiva7143 5 months ago
@PirateDiva7143
I realize you made this comment 2 years ago. But anyone who liked SLC Punk, should definitely check out Trainspotting.
Caturdayz 1 month ago
@Caturdayz It looks great. I shall watch it! (:
PirateDiva7143 1 month ago
fuckin love it. great version i like the original but this is much more me. its FAB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. LOL
faye272008 2 years ago
ode to my lost teenage years...cum home, leave school early (like at 3rd period :)
come home, turn on alternative radio station(S), get out the duster (people 24 and up remember what i'm talking about) get out the vodka and weed and chill
jonsmom1 2 years ago
'people 24 and up remember what i'm talking about'
Or do they?
itsMissMassMurderess 2 years ago
MACHINESSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
000HorizoN000 2 years ago
Wonderfully subversive version - perhaps nearer the truth than Rose Anderson?
hotblackdes 2 years ago 2
heycan someone tell me the name of the song when the movie is starting
daftpunk7775 2 years ago
Sex and Violence by The Exploited
OhShitHitIt 2 years ago 25
@OhShitHitIt I hate that your comment about a different song by a different band is a top comment because its in the same fuckin movie. Poseur.
nixaten 10 months ago
you guy awesome!!!!
waiyewpunx 2 years ago
AMAZING SONG!=)
deadsexy10 2 years ago
Ivzm:
Hur? " Her" I assume you implied? Name calling, telling people to jump off buildings, shows your imaturity They copied lyrics and melody. Whether someone was being subjective or not. Wait till you're older and have your favorite songs duplicated and sit their and think..What are they doing to that song? "How dare you insinuate that I should tolerate such diabolical insult, you insignificant piece of psycological inginuity? Now go look for your dictionary I have a PHD.
shaybeck2218 2 years ago
Cover =/= copying someone else and passing it off as your own.
Hur is an internet colloquialism inferring stupidity.
You may have a PHD but your still an idiot.
ivzm 2 years ago
P.p.s Now that I think about it how is your alleged PHD relevant does it make you feel big to hold it over people that you spent 5 years of your life studying something? I hope this has massaged your fragile little ego.
ivzm 2 years ago 2
Yeah, telling someone to go "barf LOL" is WAY more mature than telling someone to go jump off a building.
Also: LOL I HAS A PHD U GAIZ THAT MEANS IM SMARTER THAN YOUS LISTEN TO ME!
Hikaru766 2 years ago 2
Si tacuisses, philosophus manisses.
If you have a PHD and you don't notice a good song when you hear it, you're more stupid than your fucking nickname
nowisenice 2 years ago 3
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fuckin great song
madguitarist93 2 years ago 4
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Wow amazing how a new artist can destroy a classic...How sick!!!! They didn't even do it well. Anyone can have noise behind them and scream the words to a song..NO TALENT!
shaybeck2218 2 years ago
the suicide machine sang this song better that the classic the classic one makes me barf
carolinemays00 2 years ago
Well dear there would be no song for them to sing if it wasn't for the original artist. Anyone can take music and make a total mess of the background music and use someone's lyrics and try to sound like they are making it an original. erm...nope not original. get over it and barf. LOL
shaybeck2218 2 years ago
Hur music is subjective you fool, way to be an idiot and not realize other have differing opinions.
p.s Suicide Machines never tried to play it off as an original, please jump off the nearest tall building for trying to infer that.
ivzm 2 years ago
Actually. I am older and hear many songs remade, or covered. In fact that is a very old tradition. When the Modern Jazz quartet (a early 60's Jazz combo, 'remade' Bach's Air on G string... They elderly called it "evil, and in poor taste and just noise." Now it's classic. There exists NO recording of Beethoven playing 'Moonlight Sonata' But it exists on record. Played by who? Others. many with PHD's in music.
ja190034 1 year ago
haha see also meg and me running through the real rose garden in ft myers ;) it was creepy
YouXKneekXIT 2 years ago
this is wierd because these guys didnt come out till 91 and the movie is based in 85.
jessiemorrison 2 years ago
i don't hear it on slc punk..
when stevo is intoducing the other guys at the party there's another song,,y??
righeee 2 years ago
I haven't seen the film yet but this song is on the trailer.
PostZapruder 2 years ago
yeah i know,but in the Italian version there's not this song..so i watched it in the US version ahha
righeee 2 years ago
@righeee A bit of a late response, but I think it's when he's finished introducing everyone, and just moshing around :D
homestarrun 1 year ago
That is a step in a long , long way.I dont know if the anarchy is going to be posibily some day, maybe yes, maybe not, thanks to the capitalism, the society is every day most sadic. But i prefeer to walk the road.
Saludos
Reyludd 2 years ago
communism and socialism hope that people will do the right thing for the right things' sake and that never pans out. it's not because theyre too materialistic, it's because theyre human! anarchy on the other hand is just rejection of authority because you want to do what you want to do. it is very immature and devoid of wisdom. and thats exactly what punk was about. but sooner or later everyone grows up and realizes they were an idiot in their youth. that's what this movie shows. accurately.
lhs04 2 years ago
so how much should an industry centralize? or, how big should these firms be? well, the ones that get it right survive and the ones that dont sink. that is capitalism. that way, not only does an industry produce at a sustainable rate via competition, but also, everyone is kept in check by their own incentives to keep the business afloat for their own sakes and make as much money as possible. capitalism takes the reality of the market and the unfortunate truths of human nature and makes them work
lhs04 2 years ago
the other half is, much to the workers chagrin, it takes a firm to produce. a firm is BOTH the workers and the management/owners. the boss shields the worker from market fluctuations, risk and loss. no worker losses money when the business goes under. but the owner stands to lose millions. in short due to the cost of figuring out market information, some centralization is necessary. but not so much that people lose incentive. which happens the more centralized an industry is.
lhs04 2 years ago
the best government is one that functions optimally given the ingredients involved. and by ingredients i mean people. when people are involved there will always be a degree of corruption. there will always be self-interest, shirking, and leeching where ever the incentive outweighs the severity and probability of negative consequences. the fact that this is an unavoidable by product of human activity is half of why communism, anarchism and so some degree, socialism will always fail.
lhs04 2 years ago
There is an anarchism socialis and there is an anarchism not socialist.
With a correct educacion( sounds idiotly, i now, buis not) the people the people is not corrupted, again, there a lot of examples...an
you are talking fform a economical point of view i think..
i dont agree, anyway ,waht is the solution for you? ....
Reyludd 2 years ago
i guess what im saying is, no amount of education could prevent a people from being corrupt. people are corrupt by nature. they will cut corners, they will cheat when possible, they will take care of themselves first and if there's any left over, others, but they will always want more. more because of greed and more to be better than their neighbors. i think the anarchy you're describing is actually more like confederacy or something. (the current state of international relations for example).
lhs04 2 years ago
There are some of truth in what you say, but the corruption responds to a crisis of values of which almost always responsible governments; they shape the system
If a system is corrupt, people are going to be corrupt forever. Even the left.
but I believe that your opinión is massive, i know a lot of honest people.
Reyludd 2 years ago
The road to the anarchy is a long way, very long, is a construction very slow. But in this way can be achieved many interesting things. Here, after a económical crisis of the 2001 (remenber? Five presidents in one month) A bunch of factories went bankrupt, AND their workers took to the factories
Reyludd 2 years ago
. And the launched themselves, without the need of bosses (With decisions taken by all workers in assemblies
and with good results in the production). That is autonomy. You can find the principles of the anarchism in that place
Reyludd 2 years ago
And no, their workers are not punks , they never read a book of Chomsky in his life . We are workers and we lived misery here. AND by the times lived, we need not to be scholars to know that the power destreoy all and the capitalism leave us in a second place
Reyludd 2 years ago
why did you delete my comment. im a polly sci major about to graduate i know what im talking about. if i dont then i just wasted 4 years of my life... SOB i couldve played nintendo
outlawjcaboose 2 years ago
"Anarchism is the sistem of socialism without government ..." ( piotr kropotkin*)
* one of the principals of the ideology anarchist
Reyludd 2 years ago
i didnt like this movie because spoke un a negative way about the anarchy. The anarchy is order, is peace, is socialism.
but the soundtrak was ok
Reyludd 2 years ago
yea uh huh sure.
Catnip17 2 years ago
what can you say?
Reyludd 2 years ago
do you know what anarchy means?? "a state of society without government or law." socialism is a type of government....... anarchy is the absense of government... and they don't speak negatively about it, they really make the point of "things are f*cked up no matter what's going on...."
cherryblossom39 2 years ago
Actually, Anarchy is a form of government
keepyournoseclean 2 years ago
you are wrong
the anarchism is as form of socialism. the universe of socialism is very extense.
the anarchy is socialism without state, is libertarian socialism, if you dont believe me, search in the wikipedia , for example.
and i cannot explain more because my english is too basic.
Greetings.
Reyludd 2 years ago
um whats wrong wih capitalism...
and uh anarchy is a state of society where there are no rules. socialism is a form of govt that requires people to work together in a community. anarchy does not equal socialism. a working anarchy may have characteristics of socialism but its not socialism. in socialism i wouldnt steal. in a state of anarchy i could steal.
so yea booyah
outlawjcaboose 2 years ago
el socialismo se divide en tres clases:
socialismo estatal o autoritario ( llamado por los anarquistas) que es el ejemplo de Cuba, URSS, etc
Socialismo libertario: que es el que se opone a la existncia de un estado, ahi entra el anarquismo. Ejemplos? España en el 36, Ucrania en 1917, Quizas en parte Chiapas en mexico
y luego tenes a la socialdemocracia, el socialismo "reformista"....
Reyludd 2 years ago
existe un anarquismo que es parte del socialismo como un anarquismo que no lo es parte, qeu es el anarquismo "individualista". Es la oposicion al "comunismo" libertario. el anarquismo es realmente un sinonimo del socialismo. El anarquista es primeramente un socialista cuyo fin es la abolicion de la explotacion del hombre por el hombre
Reyludd 2 years ago
anarchy will never work.
looksoprettyburning 2 years ago
you dont know the history....
if you read, maybe you can talk....
Reyludd 2 years ago
you assume too much. .
just because I say "Anarchy will never work" doesn't mean I don't know the history
I know my history and therefore I know it will not work.
No rules = Chaos. No matter how you put it. Some people need rules to follow. Order is the key.
No form of government is perfect.
Anarchy is far from it.
looksoprettyburning 2 years ago
is difficult for me to explain beacuse my english is basic. But in the anarchy the comunitty of equals put the rules.
no rules= chaos, obviusly. Where agree with that. But that is not the anarchism.
That is the "idea" of the punk rock ( most of the bands give an incorrect concept of the anarchy) and the people that doesnt now nothing about the history of the fight of the workers.
Reyludd 2 years ago
In ucraine in 1917, 4.000.000 persons livin under the anarchy.
Again, in Spain in catalonia in the 36', millions of persons livin in lands colectivized, without bosses, without churchs, wichout presidents, without landowner . only the comunity put the rules. Means of production are of the workers ( the real producers).
the anarchy si difficult, is complicated...but no imposible, its depends of the mentality of the society, some societys are very superficials and materialists.
Reyludd 2 years ago
youve gotten your terms mixed up. anarchy is not socialism, nor communism. and a self-governing community is not anarchy, it's a democracy by definition.
anarchy is the absence of an over-arching government imposing laws/rules. it says "do what thou wilt should be the whole of the law." the problem is human nature is intrinsically selfish (with some exceptions) and a hobbesian "leviathan" state would ensue if everyone was left to do whatever they wanted.
lhs04 2 years ago
you say "my history"? no entiendo..
there is life out of your country...and out of EEUU the anarchy was posible in many times. The perfection is imposible( nothing is perfect), but the almost perfection not. bakunin, kropotkin, proudhon, chomsky, malatesta, emma goldman.
Please,read something if them if oyu want to know about the ideology, yes?
Anyway, if you dont believe in the anarchy, its ok... but dont give a incorrect information. For that we have the CNN.
Saludos desde argentina!!
(A)
Reyludd 2 years ago
None of the information I'm typing is incorrect.
BUT...much of the information you are typing is very incorrect.
You also assume way to much.
People like you are the reason Anarchy will never work.
Be real, seriously.
looksoprettyburning 2 years ago
In that part is wrong?You have read something that told you? obviusly no, like all "student", They believe they know everything.
obviusly, you dont like the anarchism, neither socialism, neiter comunis, or any politic of left.
Reyludd 2 years ago
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Reyludd 2 years ago
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And i dont speak only form the books and information, i speak from my experience in a workers life. Here, much of us we never finish the elementary school, we live the real life, and we dont live the "fantasy" life of a student....
Reyludd 2 years ago
You do not understand the dynamics of life!!
Go to the college girl, in the future "Silly workers" like me and a lot more here we are going to kiss your foot,
the future tipical (north)american bourgeois gir l!!!!
no se peude hablar con algunos estadounidenses , lo sabia...
Reyludd 2 years ago
dude double negative
not cool
Be real, seriously.
but i agree with you
in Anarchism/socialism you need to eliminate alot of human qualities such as greed and corruption. if someone has a bunch of guns then bam authoritarian dictatorship-which is sometimes okay- but point being bam no more anarchy/socialism.
in case your wondering if i lived in an ararchy state or socialistic society and i had the oppurtunity to take control i would. so now you cant say people wouldnt do that
outlawjcaboose 2 years ago 2
oh yea booyah
outlawjcaboose 2 years ago
i dont think theyre human qualities, they are modifications of human tendencies. and everyone's living in their own little anarchist state. it doesnt need to be extreme, but you recognise it when you do and that is when you attack.
but in many ways i agree with the movie. it's too much of a responsibilty for an individual, or even a little more than a lot of individuals, to achieve succesffuly, without damage to your own personality.
fromaworldcorrupted 2 years ago
There are a bunch of examples in the history of self, of peoples, communities, including factories that worked so horizaontal, and many of them or knew about the "anarchism." You have to revise the history and for me, the film is the "ixfla" view from the point of view of a child burgues grew up in a bourgeois society. And i speak from the practice and experience, not only from the theory
If you in your country does not happen, does not mean that in other places cannot happen
Reyludd 2 years ago
Matthew Lillard is fucking awesome.
d00dItBeKYLE 2 years ago 3
Every song sounds better with a punk edge. It's just more fun.
MolkoxLewd 2 years ago 13
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THIS IS FUCKIN' GAY.
NOT PUNK.
Psychovision777 3 years ago
You douchebags. You don't know what punk is. Punk isn't some thing you walk into fucking Hot Topic and look at in the shelves. Punk is a way of life. It's doing things to the way YOU want to, with heart. MORE HEART. I don't care if the song sounds like shit or it's better than Mozart. They are doing this song because they are doing it with MORE HEART. Enough said, wait til one day when you do something you believe in and just dream of doing, then have them talk shit about it. Again, idiots.
kchrchk 3 years ago 73
now u my frnd are a real punk rocker
descendents4life 3 years ago
well said
kman3636 3 years ago 2
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Right on man i hate those poser fucks
spcbrumley09 1 year ago
@kchrchk well said man, punk rocker does what he feels like and he does it with the attitude that makes him a punk giving it all or nothing
PunkWolf1984 1 year ago
@kchrchk i love this song it adds the violin so well and the beat is awesome, so agreed
tailssonic123 1 year ago
@kchrchk Um. Not really. It's first and foremost a music genre, you know, a title you give a specific style of music. Like the music you see on the shelves when you go into Hot Topic. Anything can be a way of life, but that doesn't make it any more than what it is... More heart? What do you even mean by that ? Just to use an example that you brought up- Mozart worked on his music from early childhood and then on until he died. He died penniless and in debt, but loved his career. That's heart.
hinatahi 1 year ago 3
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this freaken sucks it totally rapes lynne anderson and martina mcbrides version. freaken retards are artiscally autistic
mofoca22 3 years ago
Then why does it sound better than their versions?
skizevil 3 years ago
the actor that played Jon the Mod in SLC Punk is the same actor that played frank the rabbit in Donnie Darko
EvilResidence117 3 years ago
Way better than the original and any other country artist's cover.
deathxcircle 3 years ago 2
Only if you love punk rock. I don't care for that genre and therefore don't care for this version.
hakerns 3 years ago
slc punk is the best movie and this song rocks
theboysofwinter30 3 years ago 3
I totally agree, though I can't remember in which scene of SLC Punk this song was used, can you tell me?
Einkaufstuete 3 years ago
i could be wrong cause its been forever since i seen that movie, but i think its during that first party when steveo is introducing everybody.
SmokingFlip 3 years ago
I don't think it's played until the last scene/credits...
bgamtrak 3 years ago
It was right after Bob got out of the hospital, and they went home to party. Steve-o as always introducing people... Someone's playing with the stereo and Bob shouts at them to stop touching the effin' stereo. They turned on this song.
LokiCDK 3 years ago
awesome.....skank on
RegalTipDrummer 3 years ago 2
i wana have sex with this song
xxx283000 3 years ago 25
you want to have sex with a song? sick bastard!
thevandals18 3 years ago
Now thats the shit. I love ska/punk so much more than straight punk
UnitedSovietParty 3 years ago 6
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straight punk is gay
VinuesaPD 3 years ago
PUNK ROCK! ha, love mikes scene at the party
gabestinks 3 years ago 4
awesome song :)
puzon133 3 years ago 3
my parents loved this song nice to hear a good version!
mikeehan 3 years ago 4