Not Milo – RESPONSE TO MOVEON.ORG ‘NOT ALEX’

[shitbags666]

I don't get it ben

[Progo35]

Andrea-no more stupid than the first one

[AndreaHope]

I can't believe the stupidity of this response. What about the lives of children in Iraq. Are they're lives any less important than Alex, Tommy or Milo...Children are the wealth of the future..not fodder for wars supported by politicians for they're self-serving purposes.

[James92802]

Leave 90 billion a year in oil revenue in Sadam's hands and you would have had WWIII.

You think of the 4000 dead solders as victims, I see them as the men/women that stopped WWIII.

Because of those 4000, the kid above will not be drafted into a worldwide conflict against an adversary as strong as the Nazi's.

[songoku350]

Wow this was the most lopsided unfunny attempt at humor ive ever seen. Good job you unibrow retard.

[JezzShan]

no, they weren't really made fun of at all. it was a poor try, mate.

[kungfuwookie]

yeah, its wrong for a mother to care for her son. I guess if you're song wants to shoot heroin thats his decision too huh? who cares, hes an adult right?

[justinbrosam]

how is taking drugs and serving his country at a time of war at all alike? and hes just saying that when milo gets older he can make the dicesion for himself.

[kungfuwookie]

both are potentially fatal and life ruining, i think its a fair comparison.

[lanein6dd]

you used a baby, dumbass.

[ramblingwreck12]

haha funny

[songnight]

Using a baby? What were you thinking?

I believe they were thinking that a mother never stops caring for and trying to protect her child, even when he is old enough to make his own decisions. And also that McCain just might reinstate the draft, thus removing that whole pesky free choice in whether to serve or not thingy.

Hope that helps, RenewableComedy flunkies.

[thatpoliscinerd]

McCain's going to reinstate the draft? That's a new one. Especially since the most recent pro-draft legislation in Congress was sponsored by several DEMOCRATS and only received two supporting votes, both from DEMOCRATS.

Interesting.

[sslipknot3000]

hahah this is hilarious

[Adelphi00]

Using a baby. What were you thinking? Apparently the same as you.

[googledog]

That kid looked traumatized,like he'd been molested or something.Oh,right!his dad is a Rethuglican and as we all know,all Rethuglicans are sexual Deviants who hypocritically hide behind a facade of family values.So yeah,the poor kid probably is getting molested.YOU BASTERD!!!

[snoopdog68]

googledog you are a dumb peice of shit.

[lasminlil]

I don't think he looked molested, & I think that comment's out of line. I'm a liberal who wasn't crazy about this ad, but for different reasons: Mainly it didn't prove anything to anyone who wasn't already in her similar mindset.

[ILUVFUNKEYS345]

John Mccain cannot have my 2 boys.Remember not to be a coward and stand in front of McCain's line to get your leg blown off.Btw when you get back McCain won't even care for you.

[justinbrosam]

yeah because i suppose you will tell your two boys when they are 18 and can make their own dicesions that they cannot WILLINGLY go over to the mideast.

[ILUVFUNKEYS345]

My 2 boys will go to college and run for office like the Bushs,The Clintons,The Obamas,The Romneys.Break the cycle!You get it!

[rakrobn]

Yeah, when my boys turn 18, I'll tell them to enlist for a quagmire of a war.

[andrialoc]

Right on check out the USMC wife and mom at Chandlerswatch619 her response rocks!

[TLCTugger]

Tell a joke. Depressingly lame.

[ngarey]

'WW3 would justify a draft'

-John McCain

[JohnR22926]

So?!!! It's a correct statement. It doesn't imply there's going to be a WW III or that he wants one.

So if Saint Obama becomes Pres you don't think he would reinstate the draft if WW III broke out? Don't be naive.

It's the Dems...and ONLY the Dems...that are proposing reinstating the draft.

[rakrobn]

Back in 2006, with respect to the Iraq War, he said we were on the verge of WW III. Hence if McCain has said WW III would justify a draft what does that tell you?

Of course, none of the Republicans would come up with the draft, they're happy to let OTHER people's children die for this pointless, illegal war for Halliburton, oh I'm sorry "WMDs". As long as it is not their kids that's not their problem. Then when it comes to revamp the GI bill, they don't think it's necessary. Typical neocons.

[JohnR22926]

So we disagree on the McCain draft issue. I say he has repeatedly rejected all calls for a draft, while the Dems (Rangel) actually introduced legislation two yrs ago to reinstate it. How typical! The Dems try to enact a shitty law, and the Reps get the blame.

BTW, I don't see any Dem kids serving over there either (Webb excepted). And the GI Bill? I'm all for it...just tell me how it gets paid for.

Finally, where was your outrage when Clinton sent troops into Bosnia, Somalia, Haiti,etc.?

[rakrobn]

To quote:

During a July 2006 interview on CNN, McCain was asked about the following statement by Newt Gingrich: "We're in the early stages of what I would describes as the Third World War and, frankly, our bureaucracies aren't responding fast enough." Asked whether he agreed, McCain said:

"I do to some extent. I think it's important to recognize that we have terrorist organizations which -- who are dangerous by themselves, are now being supported by radical Islamic governments."

[JohnR22926]

rak: lets straighten out a few of your misconceptions. First, I was opposed to the war prior to its start and voted against Bush in '04 and the Reps in '06 because of it (I was on active duty at the time as well). So, I'm not in favor of the funding the war.

Your point on the Reps not having relatives in the service is fair; but you must admit the Dems are tainted by the same hypocrisy. Don't forget...the Dems voted in lock-step for this war, just like the Reps.

[rakrobn]

Yes, because it is chickenhawk Republican neocons serving in Iraq?? Name me one Republican who has sent his kid to this war. You can't name one besides McCain himself.

The way it WILL get paid for as the rest of the senators and representatives with actual testicles voted with veto-proof margins. it would be paid for by a new 0.5% tax on people earning more than $500,000 or couples earning more than $1 million.

But let me guess you're ok with taxes funding the war, just not the troops. LOL.

[JohnR22926]

rak: I thought I said I was OK with the GI Bill...but am pissed because they have no way to pay for it. I don't buy your explantion, either. This is my 9th Pres election and I've heard this class warfare BS from the Dems before. Obama's promised tax hikes are breathtaking; a bit vague on the spending though, isn't he?

I suspect the GI Bill funding will be taken out the military's procurement accounts...like a lot of other social engineering bullshit that's layered into the DOD budget.

[rakrobn]

"Finally, where was your outrage when Clinton sent troops into Bosnia, S, H,etc.?"

Yeah, are we in a prolonged, continuing illegal war looking for imaginary WMDs in Bosnia, Somalia, or Haiti? No we aren't. But you're ok with us being in Iraq for a 100 years, so we "win" right? But Republicans haven't even defined what that means.

If there is progress, we should stay bc it will crumble & if there is still chaos, we should stay bc we are needed. Funny how neoncons like to have it both ways.

[chuckroydotcom]

I think when, without retort, you get to your 3rd multi-paragraph post that you've shown a tendancy to dominate conversations. As for your slandorous adjectives...you're petty.

[rakrobn]

Yes, actual facts are comprehensive and can require paragraphs. Neoconservative right wing radical fear-mongering and lies only requires a few words, especially when you have Swiftboaters do your dirty work. I agree with you on that point.

[JohnR22926]

rak: I already stated my position on Iraq which is squeaky clean. You still haven't answered my question about Clinton's use of military force in the 90s...which is no more/less "illegal" than what Bush has done.

No, I suspect much of the sanctimonious outrage from the Left over Iraq is tied to one fact; that it's a Rep president in charge. If Obama or another Dem had invaded Iraq, the Left (including you) would be gibbering endlessly about freedom and democracy.

[rakrobn]

Yes, because we have continuing wars in Somalia, Bosnia, etc. right now? No, we are in a prolonged war in Iraq. No I would say, telling the country they had WMDs and then not finding them, saying Saddam was working with Al-Qaeda then 9/11 commission saying that was not true, etc. is why it is "illegal". And we have the nerve to lambast France, for something they already knew. That's what we do , when other countries say things we don't agree with, we just dismiss them.

[rakrobn]

No Democrat would have done what Bush did. The war in Afghanistan was justified and we were able to route Al-Qaida in Tora Bora. However, only Bush turned his sites to Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11 and had no WMDs. If we had a Democrat, we probably would have only been in Afghanistan and made a huge difference in routing the Taliban.

[JohnR22926]

rak: Oh, please! Look at our involvement in wars in the 20th century. Lets see: WW I, WW II, Korea, Vietnam. All started by Dem presidents and waged largly while Dem presidents were in office. The only reason Dem presidents haven't started wars since Vietnam is because there haven't been any Dem presidents since then (except Clinton and I already mentioned Bosnia/Somalia/Haiti).

And, you must remember the Dems in Congress voted overwhelmingly to give Bush the authority to go to invade Iraq.

[rakrobn]

Yes that was the Democrats mistake, believing a Republican president. No one could have thought what Bush's real motive was to attack Iraq, when the Taliban was in Afghanistan. But Bush told Richard Clarke to find out Iraq's involvement in 9/11 and was told there wasn't any, he told him to find anything to implicate Iraq.

[JohnR22926]

rak: Still avoiding my question aren't you? The question was "where was the Dem outrage in the 90s at the time Clinton used military force"? Answer: there was none. The Dems supported it because Clinton was their boy.

Also, the war is "legal" by any attorney's defnition. The Congress voted Bush the authority. Period.

BTW, we still have troops in Bosnia. Not in Somalia though because they got killed and their corpses were dragged through the streets.

[rakrobn]

I answered your question. There is no outrage as there were NO PROLONGED WARS by Clinton. Our involvement was limited and very short, not unlike Bush's "national building" agenda he promised to not do during his first term. Funny how that changed. If that's the case, why has Congress not actually declared war? It's actually only an "Authorization to Use Force", Congress has not declared this to be a war.

[lasminlil]

I'm a liberal & I was extremely outraged over Clintons war! I'm also NOT the only one. Perhaps you didn't hear it because that war didn't linger, or the press didn't cover it. I'm also outraged at the Dems who gave georgie porgie his ok on the war. But Kucinich DIDN'T, plus a FEW others. And, I'm NOT defending them, but these guys were given false info, & ok'd something OTHER than what's going on. Most of the country did (NOT me), & doesn't now.

[JohnR22926]

lasmin: Clinton's wars didn't get much blowback for several reasons:

-Relatively small number of ground troops involved.

-Very low US casualty rates.

-The biggest one in Bosnia was a european led adventure; the US played a supporting role.

-The left leaning press was partial to Clinton/Dems and gave them the benefit of the doubt. Bosnia also fit into the Left's ideology; using force to stop a fascist (ethnic cleansing) regime.

[ESB1138]

Oh that's rich. That's just perfect!

[lg1502]

Great response! Thank you.

[rakrobn]

Don't worry Ben Roy! By the time your kid grows up and is age-eligible he will be drafted just like in Vietnam. Kiss your kid goodbye. We'll send him to any country we don't agree with!!

[wristdeepproductions]

Hahahahahaha. How does your fear pedaling different any differ from the right? I don't fear the draft. I'll love my kid if he chooses to run or to fight.  Either way, it'll be HIS decision. Not me filling his head with my agenda. Smartin up.

Ben Roy

Obama '08

[JohnR22926]

You again! Looks like you're getting pounded on every one of these vids.

I'll say it again: It's the Dems (led by Rangel, Reid and Pelosi) who are talking about bringing back the draft. NONE of the Reps wants it. And McCain doesn't want it either...despite your garbling and misinterpretation of his comments.

[harryofgo]

Great ad, keep up those Constitutional beliefs, cause someone has to.

[pidpit]

Good for you dad and son! Love the response!

Your son is a cutie!

Thx!