this is interesting to see how people react to this technique. this is nothing to do with the racing techniques and very different from those, but still really logical. it seems like people are saying "this mogul technique is really shitty in terms of slalom."
though this is already old-fashioned these days; he is only moving his skis side-to-side. also pure carving isn't so neccessary for middle speed on the softer snow. but the way he uses his inside leg gives more stability of the turns.
@andymeadows9 nope, i believe that that honour goes to the us... just look it up, japan isnt even physically big enough to have that many ski resorts... so.....yeah...
3/4 of the land is occupied by mountains. more or less similar situation as in New Zealand. (it doesnt snow much in the south though.) but skiing itself isnt so popular as it was a few decades ago.
he cant get a grip on the snow his skis are skidding so much :L and his arms are everywhere... not that i can really talk seen as though this is a habit that i have had in the past but i would hardly call it perfect carving....
@shadley35 okay first of all you are wrong and that is gross. he steps not rolls between the turns also. should i go on? learn how to ski. i know what i am talking about
mammamia, è inguardabile sarà perfetta ma è una sciata brutta, poi non mi sembra molto sicuro e stabile, scia con una fatica immensa, è tutto troppo forzato
PLEASE, If any of you guys think that you can angle your skis as much as this guy does at 0:28 (and 1:02 in slow motion) and carve with less skidding than him, please post a video so we learn something and try doing it ourselves. And before gurus of carving start saying that he shouldn't angle that much, please try carving with more than 80km/ph (as he does) and post a video too :)
A+ I looked for faults and could not see any. I personally have to put most weight on the downhill ski but he seems to use both equally. Thats strength. For you beginner carvers agressively drive the down hill ski edge with your shin, weight centered between that shin and your hips. This worked for me anyway.
this is not even close to perfect- look at his chest- he isn't facing down hill- he follows his turns-( im a PSIA ski instructor). which throws him off balance and slows him down. there appears to be too much pressure placced on his inside ski as well. in addition has anyone looked at his placement over his skis? he gets slammed into the "back seat " several times. that is poor skiing and yes i can do better
@themythic5th what level psia instructor....? being slammed into the back seat is not indicative of poor skiing technique, it depends on the context and the nature of the skier. Also his chest does not follow his skis, there is separation there
@led0zeppelin1977 there is a pole touch, you don't need a 'plant', the edges are not unnecessary, his edge angle is appropriate for the conditions, he isn't falling over from too much edge is he? this isn't a slalom turn, complete separation is not necessary
@mica410 plants are more important than you think they help accelerate you through a turn, steep edges will cause wet snow like that to crumble underneath your edge in a real race, and his shoulders are dipping but the latter is stylistic. the angles like that will catch up with you in a real race. sorry, i dont really know what these guys are doing. ive seen a couple videos like this and im intrigued, but all im saying in an actual FIS race, slalom or gs, this style would not help you at all
@led0zeppelin1977 i think you are over rating the pole plant. yes it is very important, but for this style of skiing a simple pole touch will suffice, yes step edges like that may cause the snow to slide out, but everyday gives different conditions, and in these conditions it is fine, so not bad technique
@mica410 ...the edges ARE necessary!!! Complete separation IS necessary!!! The ground where he's skiing is so soft...so his trunk mustn't be so PRESSED!!
His technique is perfect for the soft snow he is skiing. He has great ankle flexion, a long outside and short inside leg for high edge angles, and is well stacked and aligned. His problem is moving laterally before getting established on the new ski (see :50). He would adjust by transferring weight to the uphill ski before crossing his CG over: Transfer weight, move forward, change edges with abduction of the inside knee, then move inside so he has a ski on which to balance and extend the leg.
I don't know his language. If this was him, he was a good at skiing. There were and are so many people wishing they were able to do shit half as good as this. Not me, of course. 'Cause I am a Rock Star and I love it too!~
this is definitely not perfect carving. far from it. This guy has all his weight on his inside ski as you can see from his outer ski wobbling like jello. he has terrible form. the only good thing about his turns is the angulation he gets on these turns, but i can guarantee if he were to do this in anything other than perfectly groomed snow, say for example ice, he would be skidding all over the place. This type of form gives no stablity whatsoever
yeah , i cant quite do that, but i know that its not perfect. he's not even using his outer leg much on the turn, he's relying on his inner one about 90%.... =S btr out their...
Absolutely no one here has grounds to criticize this level of skiing from an annonymous standpoint. I would bet the bank that those who have couldn't ski any where near as well. It certainly wouldn't be a sporting bet that they are jealous immature.
@richardbent1 So you think we shouldn't be able to criticize anyone who is better than ourselves. Have you never criticized a politician, dentist, business men, any other sports professionals......? u probably have, despite them being better than you in their discipline! It is their job so we should be able to critisize them. I bet you are another stupid american! Next time think things through before you say them.
@richardbent1 yeah ok most don't but you can see that he initiates his truns on his inside ski. and if it was truly perfect recreational carving he would not be so far back between the turns. i am a 40 point gs skier and i can spot all of poor points in his skiing. to be where i am in skiing i can fully guarantee you that my technique is as good as it gets. far better then this guy.
Man there are some uneducated comments here. There is no "lifting" or "jumping out of the turn" required here; the pressure created on the ski aids the initiation/progression into the next turn. Learn to carve properly and you may understand.
You all forgot one major element : the speed he is going at. At this speed, whether you are freeskiing or on a course, you must litterally jump out of your turn to catch the next one. Easier said than done. To my opinion, and I do race, i'd say his technique is pretty close to being flawless. Strenght, pressure, stance, direction, weight transfer and most remarkable, look (in slomo) at the way he drives his skis over bumpy surfaces, perfectly driven and relax at the same time. Hats off!
haha what the f... are you people saying here I can't believe it... this how you ride skiis today its a simple technique... dont compare this to a special slalom or downhill cause thats other things
@pistolet87 erm - ok but who the fuck are you ,you little dweeb virgin punk fucking gay faggot fucking arsshole????? are you suggesting you can ski even half as good as this jap guy? if so i suggest you shut the fuck up and continue fucking your mom up the ass. silly fucking bastard. this guy is a fucking good skier - your mom is a fucking good whore - now fuck off
maybe you are riding someones dick idiot cause i did not say that he's doing something wrong, in fact i was telling someone that was saying that this is wrong you stupid peace of shit man how i would fuck you up for this if I could haha and by the way I live next to a big skiing place and ride even better than this guy you cocksucking bitch
@shadley35 shut the fuck up you demeaning asswipe cunt. its one thing to talk the talk, but can you walk the walk. you are probably some punter cunt who cant make it down a green run and skis on shitty 8 year old ex rental rossignols
Guy's going about mach 8. Massive crossunder due to the arc of his turns combined with the speed relative to the radius. Yet, the mass is directed where he wants to go, and maintains good contact with the outside ski throughout. Meanwhile, the inside ski bends and arcs.
Nothing wrong with his hands. Look again at the skis arcing. He's going exactly where he wants to go. He's not trying to control speed here but maintain it.
Not easy to do. If you can, please post. Else, watch,learn.
why do people seem to get carving and race turns mixed up :s ? is it taugh differently in the states than to where ive been? (France , Itialy and Austria mostly)
what an absolute bunch of geeks you all are,do any of you compete,if you are thee beni raich then nice one by the way, big respect to you.these dudes are seeking,max angles,max speed,max turn shape,max balance, they are trying to MAX IT!!!DO YOU HONESTLY THINK IT IS POSSIBLE TO BE ALL OF THIS in a competition,the world cup dudes are always in and out of balance,turn shapes not finnished etc,lok at the bigger picture - damn
All you guys keep arguing about his skiing as if it was still 1980 something. Go read some ski technique. PSIA - Pro Ski Instructors of America. Good source of info if you wanna know what you are talking about.
the lines your skis leave on the slope should be s's. After every turn your skis should stand horizontal, otherwise it's just impossible to perfectly control your speed.
I also agree with bernioo7. This guy has good strong technique and stance and just needs to clean it up by knocking off the slight torsional rotation in phase 3 and 4 (end) of the turn. He ends up hanging on to the edge too long and instead of the ski carving up to the basic athletic stance & then rolling into the new turn, he's having to unweight too much to initiate the new turn. The only rotation should be shoulders squarely rounding the gates as the course goes in and out of fall line.
Basically, because he has that small torsional rotation at that point in the turn and he's not keeping his body fully square to the ski in the "skeletally stacked position" (with just that slight counter that keeps the ski carving in the end of the turn so that it carves itself up to skiers athletic stance; ready to roll into the new turn) he's not completing the turn fully before he starts the new one. Wise Man once said to me, "COMPLETE THE TURN!"
I looked at it again. He's rotating at least a full 20 degrees in either direction with each turn instead of keeping with the fall line. He's riding his skis through the ends of the turn cause he drops his hand "right at the gate" so to speak.
I have looked at it again and I'm OK with the rotation of the shoulders following the the line in and out of the fall line but he has slight torsional rotation at the end of the turn and isn't getting the tail of the ski to complete the turn and carve back into the basic athletic stance because he isn't maintaining a skeletally aligned position and slightly countered (at least it feels countered but technically isn't) at that small portion in the turn.
He's not completing the turn before setting the new turn and has to use the energy from his last turn to un-weight (by then re-emphasizing the counter) and set the new turn; basically goes from edge to edge with minimal roll over into the new edge from the athletic stance on each new turn. His ski weighting actually looks good; it should be 70% outside 30% inside and his overall stance and technique is good. Just one basic: COMPLETE THE TURN before starting the new one.
He drops his inside hand. Needs to keep it up and not leave his hands so wide. Practicing over counter-rotation is the key in the beginning because as long as you think you're not over-rotating; you are. He's rotating through the turn a bit (probably due to the aforementioned hand)which is keeping him from getting the turn to have energy and let the ski do what it should; basically, he's hanging on to the turn since he's rotating into it through phase three and four of the turn.
About the dropping hand I've expressed myself below already. He's not rotating at all... He keeps his shoulders and hips square to the skis at almost all the times except for teh end of the turn where he adds a bit of "active anticipation" with his upper body and shoulders - He does not actively rotate in any way. He only follows the skis and before the end of the turn he's slightly anticipating the next one with what you confuse with the "rotation"...
I disagree. I have seen many racers that drop their hand a little just at the gate (end of phase 2) and this causes problems with finishing the turn correctly. He's not majorly over-rotating and it's subtle unless you are watching how he finishes the turn but he is slightly over rotating so that he is riding the ski at the end of the turn. (cont.)
You are correct that this is appearing as "active anticipation" but one should not have to engage in "active anticipation" if one is squared up correctly in phase 4, phase 1 of the next turn should not require any "active anticipation." He's basically compensating at the beginning of the turn for his poor ending due to that slight hand drop. This is something that I worked on for a long time and studied for a long time.
Had this been a beginner, then I'd agree, however this is a very experienced skier obviously on or beyond the level of creative application, so I dare to partially disagree with you - He knows how to do the stuff, knows the rules and thus can afford to break them... Also the low dropped hand doesn't seem to affect his performance from the knees below and that is what matters the most.
I speak Japanese and am a skier. This video is from the national level competition 2006, so 6th place is actually quite good. The guy says that it is the trend of this year to put stand on both skis, so pushing weight on the top of the inside ski is actually intentional.
I will point out that the video seems to say he got sixth place, so probably not perfect. But I do agree that a lot of the people here talking shit are doing so straight out of their asses.
Yeah not so much perfect. But you gotta give that guy some props for cranking those skis over that far. You all post a video of you doing THAT... well... that will be the day.
Would you be please so kind and describe exactly what is YOUR issue with the brilliant technique displayed in this video, please ? Thank you in advance:)
Have you actually read the description ? Please do next time before you call someone "lame", will ya ? Maybe you won't be so much off topic:) Thanks:)
Great stuff he's doing. I agree that he's using the outside ski, maybe in a small moment of a turn the use of inside ski is needed for small corrections (which is normal), that's all.
Those aren't 21m radious skis (and wc material) - that is why the outside is shaking, but still is balanced very good.
Dejc123, did you ever ski on a real racing ski yourself ? Making a quick curve is ofcourse possible, making a small radius turn is not. Bending a racing ski can only be done by (extreme ) bodyweight or a high g-force that comes with an extremely high speed. But as i experienced myself. A high speed (high g-force) is not something a normal persons legs can carry. My legs did not anyway. Kept going straight on , instead of turning.
The guy is mostly using the outside ski, with some well balanced pressure on the inside ski. His hip bend leads the power to the outside leg. Beautiful powerful carving.
Skiing with most weight on the inside ski doesn´t allow you to stretch the outside leg propperly. This leads to turns where both legs are bended almost equal.
In this video the outside leg is streteched well most of the time, while the inside leg is bended much more, a indicator that more pressure is on the outside leg.
folks u seem never to really carve, never to bodycarve and never to ski one (inward) ski. Absolutely stupid things you promote here, right according to old good ski school. Observe and analyze which ski is going firm, tight, stabil line and which is constantly shakeing and waveing which is the best proof of apparent ski-snow contact. Then go on the slope and become firm in cutting Royal bends and become fluent in bodycarving then you will be wiser than present now:) sorry
Watch my bodycarving video before stating above, first of all.
Second, the guy above is not performing bodycarving, but base/race carving.
Third of all - the fact that the outside ski is not firmly carving on the snow doesn't yet mean that the guy on the video is momentarily on the inside ski INTENTIONALLY. :)
all who got doubts _ observe carefully how unstabill and waveing is outward ski while cutting firm line is inward. This is practically impossible to put all the weight and power thru ski which is constantly unstabil. All who say contary thesis probably never been on slope or bever rode "royals" on one (inward) ski
iward ski - no doubt in modern techique - see slowed 43-44 sec. of movie. then both ski, final cut/jump starting from outward ski transition to another bend, then shortly outward ski first then strong emphasis and tightening the bend ONLY THRU INWARD
good example. modern techique uses mainly inward ski while enetring the bend (see 43-44 sec. slowed) afterwards wshortly transition thru oth and the final cut/jump and transition to another bend is being made out of outward ski
With all do respect to Benni Raich, that guy perfectly uses both skis and there is more than high probability that he has the majority of his weight on the outside ski although it might not seem like it at all the times...
dude wtf??u think tht because he is carving very much but he is compensing the weight with the hip....look at his body, its completly without move...and if he would be skiing on the inside with such a powerfull carving he would fall...
I again dare to disagree, quite the contrary... He definitely uses both skis at least equeally - and as I stated above - I think he uses the outside ski more... If he uses inside ski - it is unintentional and only result of the soft spring snow...
well,first of all i replyied my comment to benniraichand... i was trying to mean tht with the weight compensation tht he does with the hip + the leg charge in the outside ski= no inside skiing.U understood bad my comment..it was for you...it was for benniraich who said he is skiing on the inside leg...and btw..u cannot use both ski's with the same weight charge...if not you cannot do a perfect carving...u must have all the charge as possible in the outside ski...if not you may fall....
dude thats what its all about - force spread equally on both skis slightly more obviously on the outer and the outer force during the turn wont let him fall down into the turn
this is interesting to see how people react to this technique. this is nothing to do with the racing techniques and very different from those, but still really logical. it seems like people are saying "this mogul technique is really shitty in terms of slalom."
though this is already old-fashioned these days; he is only moving his skis side-to-side. also pure carving isn't so neccessary for middle speed on the softer snow. but the way he uses his inside leg gives more stability of the turns.
saodaketakeya 2 months ago
OMG asians can ski?!?!?!
theoriginalnoob1 4 months ago
@theoriginalnoob1 Did you know Japan has the largest amount of ski resorts of any country in the world?
andymeadows9 2 months ago in playlist ski
@andymeadows9 nope, i believe that that honour goes to the us... just look it up, japan isnt even physically big enough to have that many ski resorts... so.....yeah...
theoriginalnoob1 1 month ago
@theoriginalnoob1
3/4 of the land is occupied by mountains. more or less similar situation as in New Zealand. (it doesnt snow much in the south though.) but skiing itself isnt so popular as it was a few decades ago.
saodaketakeya 1 month ago
Vorrei veder sciare quelli che criticano! questo sa sciare ed anche bene, provate voi con questa visibilità a far meglio?
frapepito2 6 months ago 2
45 people think "perfect doesn't exist!"
fattanek 7 months ago
Way too back seat, not bringing hips forward in transition, dropping inside hand...
OMG1234557 7 months ago
yay this has nothing to do with the real sports) however - it deserves to be there as well, not all of the skis lovers can race or slalom for real))
feddyvideo 8 months ago
his to much inside, inside ski, hips a little bit inside and no movement to the front, i can do better!
123456789dri 9 months ago
he cant get a grip on the snow his skis are skidding so much :L and his arms are everywhere... not that i can really talk seen as though this is a habit that i have had in the past but i would hardly call it perfect carving....
hugocampkini 9 months ago
CHOWAA CHONNGG!!!!
22KatKit 10 months ago
This is a great skier. Look at the speed at which hes moving and amount of pressure building up. He does brilliantly to hold on.
"Shoulders not level" - They are, he has great balance. Perhaps you are fooled by the camera angle.
"He would his hip on hard snow" - not sure what this means. He has great technique and will only hit his hip if he falls over...
"A little too wide" - Do you mean his stance? at that speed, where else do you put your inside ski???
jimhat21 11 months ago 2
Its amazing he doesn't boot out at 1:02 1:03 1:04 1:05. not bad turns at all.
hazlitt1 1 year ago
a little to wide
MuNURDcr7 1 year ago
his weight is to far bak
ILivForFun 1 year ago
his shoulders aren't even level. on hard snow he would hit his hip for sure!!!
jeffsoundfreak 1 year ago
@jeffsoundfreak you are a fucking moron and your mom sucks big fucking elephant cock - shut the fuck up till you kno wwhat youre talking about
shadley35 1 year ago
@shadley35 okay first of all you are wrong and that is gross. he steps not rolls between the turns also. should i go on? learn how to ski. i know what i am talking about
jeffsoundfreak 1 year ago
@shadley35 not cool. And no my mom does not. I know exactly what i am talking about.
jeffsoundfreak 10 months ago
good turns, he starts the turn a little late but otherwise good turns!
valvepep 1 year ago
mammamia, è inguardabile sarà perfetta ma è una sciata brutta, poi non mi sembra molto sicuro e stabile, scia con una fatica immensa, è tutto troppo forzato
GrandeRudy 1 year ago
he didn't do a backflip...
LulJam 1 year ago
he barley pole planted haha
jjswimmer2014 1 year ago
That is not perfect carving, i'am carving much better.
He turns with his upperbody inside and has no movement forward!!
123456789dri 1 year ago
PLEASE, If any of you guys think that you can angle your skis as much as this guy does at 0:28 (and 1:02 in slow motion) and carve with less skidding than him, please post a video so we learn something and try doing it ourselves. And before gurus of carving start saying that he shouldn't angle that much, please try carving with more than 80km/ph (as he does) and post a video too :)
k0kkinos 1 year ago
Those carves look great.
Blakera4848 1 year ago
A+ I looked for faults and could not see any. I personally have to put most weight on the downhill ski but he seems to use both equally. Thats strength. For you beginner carvers agressively drive the down hill ski edge with your shin, weight centered between that shin and your hips. This worked for me anyway.
solarenergysouth 1 year ago
I, being a junior racer, with like 70 fis points (17 yrs old) i could go there and have a better technique...
killerkourkour 1 year ago
@killerkourkour ...INFATTI, LO SO CHE HAI RAGIONE...In english: I know you're right about your technique...
Ale7674 1 year ago
this is not even close to perfect- look at his chest- he isn't facing down hill- he follows his turns-( im a PSIA ski instructor). which throws him off balance and slows him down. there appears to be too much pressure placced on his inside ski as well. in addition has anyone looked at his placement over his skis? he gets slammed into the "back seat " several times. that is poor skiing and yes i can do better
themythic5th 1 year ago
@themythic5th what level psia instructor....? being slammed into the back seat is not indicative of poor skiing technique, it depends on the context and the nature of the skier. Also his chest does not follow his skis, there is separation there
mica410 1 year ago
i love how everyone hates....and how does squatting show low leg strength? it would be higher...if his legs were weak hed have to stand up
tbonestillz 1 year ago
it isn't perfect!
irgendjemand8762 1 year ago 2
it's not "racing" ;)
it's rather a demo skiing - in other words, performance.
but many people don't understand what he is doing. :(
saodaketakeya 1 year ago
This is terrific carving!
RegalBane 1 year ago
At that speed you don't need to literally pole plant. He is single pole planting to initiate the turns most of the time.
Lehmann108 1 year ago
1 - no poleplants. this could be a style choice, but it would probably hurt him in a real race
2 - the edge angles are unnecessary. it looks like hes on soft snow
3 - not keeping his shoulders square down the hill, and he dips his inside shoulder. that'll catch up with you quick, especially in a real race
cool video, stylistically, he looks like a beast skiier, but for the best style AND execution of ridiculous edge angles, watch some ted ligety videos
led0zeppelin1977 1 year ago
@led0zeppelin1977 thank you for actually knowing something-props.
themythic5th 1 year ago
@led0zeppelin1977 there is a pole touch, you don't need a 'plant', the edges are not unnecessary, his edge angle is appropriate for the conditions, he isn't falling over from too much edge is he? this isn't a slalom turn, complete separation is not necessary
mica410 1 year ago
@mica410 plants are more important than you think they help accelerate you through a turn, steep edges will cause wet snow like that to crumble underneath your edge in a real race, and his shoulders are dipping but the latter is stylistic. the angles like that will catch up with you in a real race. sorry, i dont really know what these guys are doing. ive seen a couple videos like this and im intrigued, but all im saying in an actual FIS race, slalom or gs, this style would not help you at all
led0zeppelin1977 1 year ago
@led0zeppelin1977 i think you are over rating the pole plant. yes it is very important, but for this style of skiing a simple pole touch will suffice, yes step edges like that may cause the snow to slide out, but everyday gives different conditions, and in these conditions it is fine, so not bad technique
mica410 1 year ago
@mica410 ...the edges ARE necessary!!! Complete separation IS necessary!!! The ground where he's skiing is so soft...so his trunk mustn't be so PRESSED!!
Ale7674 1 year ago
This is a national level competition, and he is a one of the best. He also skis in
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drkuroneko 2 years ago
His technique is perfect for the soft snow he is skiing. He has great ankle flexion, a long outside and short inside leg for high edge angles, and is well stacked and aligned. His problem is moving laterally before getting established on the new ski (see :50). He would adjust by transferring weight to the uphill ski before crossing his CG over: Transfer weight, move forward, change edges with abduction of the inside knee, then move inside so he has a ski on which to balance and extend the leg.
georgert 2 years ago
check out the new road ripper street skis. great carving practice for any level of skier
RoadRipper247365 2 years ago
This is excellent skiing in anyones language. Basically what you'd expect to see in any world cup GS race, technically speaking. Very inspiring!!
bravoepic 2 years ago
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DreamsofMajesty 2 years ago
This is good carving by any standard. Many junior racers are not half as good
Gregcoach 2 years ago
Lo he visto mejor.
Yo lo hago mejor.
vannelite 2 years ago
I don't know his language. If this was him, he was a good at skiing. There were and are so many people wishing they were able to do shit half as good as this. Not me, of course. 'Cause I am a Rock Star and I love it too!~
fidely 2 years ago
Lol... People can't just face the fact that he's asian. Jealous?
JimmyChiffels 2 years ago
no, he genuinely just isn't great, i know a lot of really great asian skiers
hooraynesss 2 years ago
trot on you fool, this is hideous
tomryderhaworth 2 years ago
Stance is a bit wide, appart from that it's good, "wobbling like jello" jog on , it's bumpy
europeansnowsport 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
ive seen alot of people ski in alot wider stance than that... its becoming pretty popular... i still like keepin my boots together... looks cleaner
snowyphil65 2 years ago
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432534324643256 2 years ago
Have you actually read the description ?
c4rv3r 2 years ago 9
ah, no i didn't. makes sense now. For recreational skiing it is pretty good carving.
432534324643256 2 years ago
@432534324643256 how much do you know about skiing lol? his technique is prety good
mica410 1 year ago
@mica410 his technique isnt great
themythic5th 1 year ago
this is definitely not perfect carving. far from it. This guy has all his weight on his inside ski as you can see from his outer ski wobbling like jello. he has terrible form. the only good thing about his turns is the angulation he gets on these turns, but i can guarantee if he were to do this in anything other than perfectly groomed snow, say for example ice, he would be skidding all over the place. This type of form gives no stablity whatsoever
blakfire1337 2 years ago 2
yeah , i cant quite do that, but i know that its not perfect. he's not even using his outer leg much on the turn, he's relying on his inner one about 90%.... =S btr out their...
DATBOYS4M 2 years ago
hes carving good. but its not as good as i thought when i read the title.
and i can carve better.
iPutOnForMaESC 2 years ago
I agree with the commentator !
roriescott 2 years ago
slik! 5/5
demelzo 2 years ago
It's very arrogant to say that this is perfect.
huhhman 2 years ago 2
It's not him in the video, ..... so in what way is it arrogant? Deluded, perhaps.
number1drummerman 2 years ago 8
Not perfect but still very nice.
coc041vi 2 years ago
Absolutely no one here has grounds to criticize this level of skiing from an annonymous standpoint. I would bet the bank that those who have couldn't ski any where near as well. It certainly wouldn't be a sporting bet that they are jealous immature.
richardbent1 2 years ago 4
@richardbent1 So you think we shouldn't be able to criticize anyone who is better than ourselves. Have you never criticized a politician, dentist, business men, any other sports professionals......? u probably have, despite them being better than you in their discipline! It is their job so we should be able to critisize them. I bet you are another stupid american! Next time think things through before you say them.
rossdabossda2k6 1 year ago
@richardbent1 bull shit-i can skii better than that
themythic5th 1 year ago
@richardbent1 yeah ok most don't but you can see that he initiates his truns on his inside ski. and if it was truly perfect recreational carving he would not be so far back between the turns. i am a 40 point gs skier and i can spot all of poor points in his skiing. to be where i am in skiing i can fully guarantee you that my technique is as good as it gets. far better then this guy.
jeffskibum 1 year ago
@jeffskibum it isnt racing its dropping your ass in the backseat to look like your getting agles skiing, your right
adrenalinerushskier 1 year ago
lol NO not perfect but it was a few years ago before new techniques
poobearpanda345 2 years ago
haha that isn't a perfect carving haha :D:D funny :D
nikol4os 2 years ago
Perfect ? hahah i've seen way better ... i cant do that one but there are ppl that can do way better !
shadowsabere 2 years ago
I would totally hate to be able to ski like that ...
geisenhut 2 years ago
perfect???
casali77 2 years ago
Man there are some uneducated comments here. There is no "lifting" or "jumping out of the turn" required here; the pressure created on the ski aids the initiation/progression into the next turn. Learn to carve properly and you may understand.
TommyJools 2 years ago 3
Bravo, TommyJools, you exactly hit the point
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amaskiea 2 years ago
ya and his ski he's supposed to put a lot of pressure on is flying all around and gosh his upper body is just thrown around.
monkeycsi222 2 years ago
He should put more pressure at his downhill ski at the end of the turn, and if you look at his arms it looks like he wants to fly or something.
If this is professional in Japan then i don't want to see any amateur vids!
baljetk 2 years ago
That was sublime! I had no idea what that dude was saying but I understood every word!
nosondre 2 years ago
sweet
Starclassic2222 2 years ago
You all forgot one major element : the speed he is going at. At this speed, whether you are freeskiing or on a course, you must litterally jump out of your turn to catch the next one. Easier said than done. To my opinion, and I do race, i'd say his technique is pretty close to being flawless. Strenght, pressure, stance, direction, weight transfer and most remarkable, look (in slomo) at the way he drives his skis over bumpy surfaces, perfectly driven and relax at the same time. Hats off!
bono1960 2 years ago 2
jump out of the turn? idk. maybe. prolly not. the skis should flex then come back and propel the skier into the next turn.
mackmillion99 2 years ago
if you look closely he is lifting his down hill ski. no offense but that is more railing than carving.
alittlefield93 2 years ago
upper ski working mostly, style is great. n poles engages - carving usoes no poles, carving REQUIRES body balance
thisease 2 years ago
ほんと神業的なすべりですよね～
komperdell7 3 years ago
check our techique of skiing ;) that's the way to party in TIROL!
theangelsofmercy 3 years ago
I Like this way of skiing. Very Good technique!
eddycarve 3 years ago
haha what the f... are you people saying here I can't believe it... this how you ride skiis today its a simple technique... dont compare this to a special slalom or downhill cause thats other things
pistolet87 3 years ago 4
Please read the description!!!
c4rv3r 3 years ago
@pistolet87 erm - ok but who the fuck are you ,you little dweeb virgin punk fucking gay faggot fucking arsshole????? are you suggesting you can ski even half as good as this jap guy? if so i suggest you shut the fuck up and continue fucking your mom up the ass. silly fucking bastard. this guy is a fucking good skier - your mom is a fucking good whore - now fuck off
shadley35 1 year ago
maybe you are riding someones dick idiot cause i did not say that he's doing something wrong, in fact i was telling someone that was saying that this is wrong you stupid peace of shit man how i would fuck you up for this if I could haha and by the way I live next to a big skiing place and ride even better than this guy you cocksucking bitch
pistolet87 1 year ago
@shadley35 shut the fuck up you demeaning asswipe cunt. its one thing to talk the talk, but can you walk the walk. you are probably some punter cunt who cant make it down a green run and skis on shitty 8 year old ex rental rossignols
fuck off and bitch to someone who cares
theoriginalnoob1 4 months ago
@theoriginalnoob1 there should be non-humans always with the capability of typing words in a keyboard. Sorry on behalf of them.
scatterlief 4 months ago 2
Guy's going about mach 8. Massive crossunder due to the arc of his turns combined with the speed relative to the radius. Yet, the mass is directed where he wants to go, and maintains good contact with the outside ski throughout. Meanwhile, the inside ski bends and arcs.
Nothing wrong with his hands. Look again at the skis arcing. He's going exactly where he wants to go. He's not trying to control speed here but maintain it.
Not easy to do. If you can, please post. Else, watch,learn.
ledyard01 3 years ago
everyone is so gay
who gives a shit about his technique?
harrypullar 3 years ago
why do people seem to get carving and race turns mixed up :s ? is it taugh differently in the states than to where ive been? (France , Itialy and Austria mostly)
Spuddfluff 3 years ago
very good tecnique and doesn't care about lame image
Ulikses 3 years ago
what an absolute bunch of geeks you all are,do any of you compete,if you are thee beni raich then nice one by the way, big respect to you.these dudes are seeking,max angles,max speed,max turn shape,max balance, they are trying to MAX IT!!!DO YOU HONESTLY THINK IT IS POSSIBLE TO BE ALL OF THIS in a competition,the world cup dudes are always in and out of balance,turn shapes not finnished etc,lok at the bigger picture - damn
payana43 3 years ago 3
genial....
MagierShow 3 years ago
All you guys keep arguing about his skiing as if it was still 1980 something. Go read some ski technique. PSIA - Pro Ski Instructors of America. Good source of info if you wanna know what you are talking about.
St1ffM1st3r 3 years ago
I wouldn't listen to an instructor if you paid me. A race coach, yes.
synapse131 3 years ago
lol thats not perfect at all
pInkSUPR3 3 years ago
What does it make so "imperfect" exactly, please ?
c4rv3r 3 years ago
he doesn't finish any of his turns.
the lines your skis leave on the slope should be s's. After every turn your skis should stand horizontal, otherwise it's just impossible to perfectly control your speed.
bernioo7 3 years ago
Now, obviously you didn't take pivoted entry into account...
c4rv3r 3 years ago
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gbskipro 3 years ago
as a racer i have to agree with bernioo7.. his technique is good.. but it's nothing special
domeracer666 3 years ago 2
I also agree with bernioo7. This guy has good strong technique and stance and just needs to clean it up by knocking off the slight torsional rotation in phase 3 and 4 (end) of the turn. He ends up hanging on to the edge too long and instead of the ski carving up to the basic athletic stance & then rolling into the new turn, he's having to unweight too much to initiate the new turn. The only rotation should be shoulders squarely rounding the gates as the course goes in and out of fall line.
synapse131 3 years ago
Basically, because he has that small torsional rotation at that point in the turn and he's not keeping his body fully square to the ski in the "skeletally stacked position" (with just that slight counter that keeps the ski carving in the end of the turn so that it carves itself up to skiers athletic stance; ready to roll into the new turn) he's not completing the turn fully before he starts the new one. Wise Man once said to me, "COMPLETE THE TURN!"
synapse131 3 years ago
dood, realize that's almost impossible in a race....
hornsofdavid 3 years ago
@bernioo7, he is doing super G turns!
eddiex360 1 year ago
he has a lot of mistakes
1991primitivac 3 years ago
For instance ?
c4rv3r 3 years ago
icould do better
jundo123 3 years ago
he ski like me.....
:-)
bardosilente 3 years ago
I looked at it again. He's rotating at least a full 20 degrees in either direction with each turn instead of keeping with the fall line. He's riding his skis through the ends of the turn cause he drops his hand "right at the gate" so to speak.
synapse131 3 years ago
I have looked at it again and I'm OK with the rotation of the shoulders following the the line in and out of the fall line but he has slight torsional rotation at the end of the turn and isn't getting the tail of the ski to complete the turn and carve back into the basic athletic stance because he isn't maintaining a skeletally aligned position and slightly countered (at least it feels countered but technically isn't) at that small portion in the turn.
synapse131 3 years ago
He's not completing the turn before setting the new turn and has to use the energy from his last turn to un-weight (by then re-emphasizing the counter) and set the new turn; basically goes from edge to edge with minimal roll over into the new edge from the athletic stance on each new turn. His ski weighting actually looks good; it should be 70% outside 30% inside and his overall stance and technique is good. Just one basic: COMPLETE THE TURN before starting the new one.
synapse131 3 years ago
He drops his inside hand. Needs to keep it up and not leave his hands so wide. Practicing over counter-rotation is the key in the beginning because as long as you think you're not over-rotating; you are. He's rotating through the turn a bit (probably due to the aforementioned hand)which is keeping him from getting the turn to have energy and let the ski do what it should; basically, he's hanging on to the turn since he's rotating into it through phase three and four of the turn.
synapse131 3 years ago
About the dropping hand I've expressed myself below already. He's not rotating at all... He keeps his shoulders and hips square to the skis at almost all the times except for teh end of the turn where he adds a bit of "active anticipation" with his upper body and shoulders - He does not actively rotate in any way. He only follows the skis and before the end of the turn he's slightly anticipating the next one with what you confuse with the "rotation"...
c4rv3r 3 years ago
I disagree. I have seen many racers that drop their hand a little just at the gate (end of phase 2) and this causes problems with finishing the turn correctly. He's not majorly over-rotating and it's subtle unless you are watching how he finishes the turn but he is slightly over rotating so that he is riding the ski at the end of the turn. (cont.)
synapse131 3 years ago
You are correct that this is appearing as "active anticipation" but one should not have to engage in "active anticipation" if one is squared up correctly in phase 4, phase 1 of the next turn should not require any "active anticipation." He's basically compensating at the beginning of the turn for his poor ending due to that slight hand drop. This is something that I worked on for a long time and studied for a long time.
synapse131 3 years ago
his hand is dropping down waay to much
jugglerstevo 3 years ago
Had this been a beginner, then I'd agree, however this is a very experienced skier obviously on or beyond the level of creative application, so I dare to partially disagree with you - He knows how to do the stuff, knows the rules and thus can afford to break them... Also the low dropped hand doesn't seem to affect his performance from the knees below and that is what matters the most.
Cheers:)
c4rv3r 3 years ago
I speak Japanese and am a skier. This video is from the national level competition 2006, so 6th place is actually quite good. The guy says that it is the trend of this year to put stand on both skis, so pushing weight on the top of the inside ski is actually intentional.
drkuroneko 3 years ago
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gbskipro 3 years ago
I will point out that the video seems to say he got sixth place, so probably not perfect. But I do agree that a lot of the people here talking shit are doing so straight out of their asses.
bakanagaizin 3 years ago
Yeah not so much perfect. But you gotta give that guy some props for cranking those skis over that far. You all post a video of you doing THAT... well... that will be the day.
St1ffM1st3r 3 years ago
dumping it all in at the start of turn not progresive to much wait on inside ski not perfect nothing is
JohnHomann 3 years ago
oooooohhh... his technique is quite disgusting.
c4rv3r, u dont have a clue!!!
rossdabossda2k6 3 years ago
Would you be please so kind and describe exactly what is YOUR issue with the brilliant technique displayed in this video, please ? Thank you in advance:)
c4rv3r 3 years ago
Yeah youre right ! Awfully too much on the inside ski !
dalta8 3 years ago
poop time
powderguy27 3 years ago
This is Japanese style of sking technique.
tekateka1967 3 years ago
It is carving, but more 'Lame Carving' than 'Perfect Carving'
bryandlarock 3 years ago
what the hell ru talking about stoned boy
poobearpanda345 3 years ago
I'm talking about that skier, and his 'carving technique'. It is lame, not perfect (as the title would lead you to believe).
RU getting this? UR lame.
bryandlarock 3 years ago
Have you actually read the description ? Please do next time before you call someone "lame", will ya ? Maybe you won't be so much off topic:) Thanks:)
c4rv3r 3 years ago
what are you doing man ?
NORDICASLR 3 years ago
This is perfect? ha ha ha ha
Ryniu1988 3 years ago
This is perfect? hahahaha
Ryniu1988 3 years ago
He's making too tight turns, without finishing the curve. Good technique, bad performance. And where the hell is his helmet? It's dangereous.
protodermis 3 years ago
Very good carver. I agree with Flaka.
VascoFL 3 years ago
Come to Bulgaria,Bansko and i will show you carving
bubeto199 3 years ago
Great stuff he's doing. I agree that he's using the outside ski, maybe in a small moment of a turn the use of inside ski is needed for small corrections (which is normal), that's all.
Those aren't 21m radious skis (and wc material) - that is why the outside is shaking, but still is balanced very good.
dejc123 3 years ago
actually the WC radius is 27m from last year
NiXAeternus 3 years ago
That's correct. But still the wc skiers can make a quick curve, by bending the ski.
dejc123 3 years ago
Dejc123, did you ever ski on a real racing ski yourself ? Making a quick curve is ofcourse possible, making a small radius turn is not. Bending a racing ski can only be done by (extreme ) bodyweight or a high g-force that comes with an extremely high speed. But as i experienced myself. A high speed (high g-force) is not something a normal persons legs can carry. My legs did not anyway. Kept going straight on , instead of turning.
I,m not being critical b.t.w. just adding info .
Willemvanderdecken 3 years ago
very clear!!!! now
I can do it . too
tubediego1368 4 years ago
Come to Austria...we will show you the real carving !!!
wiesesee 4 years ago
ÖSTERREICH
MaWendelin 3 years ago
The guy is mostly using the outside ski, with some well balanced pressure on the inside ski. His hip bend leads the power to the outside leg. Beautiful powerful carving.
Skiing with most weight on the inside ski doesn´t allow you to stretch the outside leg propperly. This leads to turns where both legs are bended almost equal.
In this video the outside leg is streteched well most of the time, while the inside leg is bended much more, a indicator that more pressure is on the outside leg.
flaka1111 4 years ago
Absolutely correct, I agree totally ! Finally someone with some good eye developed and good biomechanics knowledge - Thanks :)
c4rv3r 4 years ago
folks u seem never to really carve, never to bodycarve and never to ski one (inward) ski. Absolutely stupid things you promote here, right according to old good ski school. Observe and analyze which ski is going firm, tight, stabil line and which is constantly shakeing and waveing which is the best proof of apparent ski-snow contact. Then go on the slope and become firm in cutting Royal bends and become fluent in bodycarving then you will be wiser than present now:) sorry
thisease 4 years ago
Watch my bodycarving video before stating above, first of all.
Second, the guy above is not performing bodycarving, but base/race carving.
Third of all - the fact that the outside ski is not firmly carving on the snow doesn't yet mean that the guy on the video is momentarily on the inside ski INTENTIONALLY. :)
c4rv3r 4 years ago
all who got doubts _ observe carefully how unstabill and waveing is outward ski while cutting firm line is inward. This is practically impossible to put all the weight and power thru ski which is constantly unstabil. All who say contary thesis probably never been on slope or bever rode "royals" on one (inward) ski
thisease 4 years ago
More or less - it's also about the intentionality of the inside/outside ski usage - i agree with you...
c4rv3r 4 years ago
iward ski - no doubt in modern techique - see slowed 43-44 sec. of movie. then both ski, final cut/jump starting from outward ski transition to another bend, then shortly outward ski first then strong emphasis and tightening the bend ONLY THRU INWARD
thisease 4 years ago
good example. modern techique uses mainly inward ski while enetring the bend (see 43-44 sec. slowed) afterwards wshortly transition thru oth and the final cut/jump and transition to another bend is being made out of outward ski
thisease 4 years ago
XACTLY
c4rv3r 4 years ago
lol y cant i do that?
drillfang25 4 years ago
He is skiing on his inside leg!!!
BeniRaich 4 years ago
With all do respect to Benni Raich, that guy perfectly uses both skis and there is more than high probability that he has the majority of his weight on the outside ski although it might not seem like it at all the times...
c4rv3r 4 years ago
dude wtf??u think tht because he is carving very much but he is compensing the weight with the hip....look at his body, its completly without move...and if he would be skiing on the inside with such a powerfull carving he would fall...
luquitas93 4 years ago
I again dare to disagree, quite the contrary... He definitely uses both skis at least equeally - and as I stated above - I think he uses the outside ski more... If he uses inside ski - it is unintentional and only result of the soft spring snow...
c4rv3r 4 years ago
well,first of all i replyied my comment to benniraichand... i was trying to mean tht with the weight compensation tht he does with the hip + the leg charge in the outside ski= no inside skiing.U understood bad my comment..it was for you...it was for benniraich who said he is skiing on the inside leg...and btw..u cannot use both ski's with the same weight charge...if not you cannot do a perfect carving...u must have all the charge as possible in the outside ski...if not you may fall....
lukytas44 3 years ago
hi is skiing on the inside leg!!!
BeniRaich 4 years ago
dude thats what its all about - force spread equally on both skis slightly more obviously on the outer and the outer force during the turn wont let him fall down into the turn
Sterydzik 4 years ago
eh,what are you talking about
payana43 3 years ago
Beautiful carve - wish I could understand what he's saying :)
rpcarver 4 years ago
Yep, me too, actually... :D
c4rv3r 4 years ago