Ubuntu helps Linux? Bullshit

[borrowfood]

the 0.1% could fix something critical while the 99.9% could fix trivial problems - Kroah has bad logic, Linux aside

[roboticterror]

@borrowfood That being said, 0.1% could of been trivial problem and vice versa.

Of course we don't know, they're not listed.

[lin545]

@3fty665 Try Linux Mint. At least they specifically target "user friendliness" and nothing more.

[SuperKittyPancake]

It's easier to bitch then it is to code.

[shikibiomernok]

Arkblu, sunnz - This is a FACT. Canonical won't help linux even a bit. Not just the kernel, they wont help Gnome either. They just work for themselves, no opensource or anything here. They won't submit anything to upstream, they are fine with their own crappy work. They are just a couple of leeches.

[kaddy01980]

this guy is wrong... the majority of kernel contributors are NOT individuals who work for nobody.... 75% of kernel contributions are PAID developers working for Companies who support Linux.... RedHat, Novell, IBM being the biggest...

[roboticterror]

He didn't say those individuals were not paid.

[kaddy01980]

yes he did... at 5:25

[roboticterror]

@kaddy01980

He didn't say they were not getting pay, just not working for anyone.(freelancing)

If you add up all the companies, ya 75% of kernel contributions are paid developers. But individuals as a collective, paid or not, out raked individual companies.

Greg Kroah is kernel maintainer, I think he would know who contributes to the kernel.

[lin545]

90% percent of upstreams goes via debian, because ubuntu IS debian-sid remixed. Saw the graph "individuals"? Its ubuntu.

[roboticterror]

Those individuals might be using Ubuntu, but more likely they don't work for Canonical; which is what this video is talking about.

[lin545]

Ubuntu is Debian remixed for out-of-the-box desktop. Ubuntu is one of the distros that introduce newest technologies first to the desktop, on par with Fedora. But unlike Fedora, Ubuntu gives much more support, it gives all features of full-blown distro, not just some test-drive always beta. Ubuntu also has launchpad, which allows to discuss and contribute. All detected bugs together with wishes go upstream.

Redhat are gone just like microsoft. They upstream only things they wish.

[roboticterror]

This video is talking about the Linux Kernel and how Ubuntu/Canonical doesn't really "give back" to the Kernel. It's not talking about the desktop not all.

[lin545]

Ubuntu does give back a lot that would make Linux to become solid desktop system. Implementing hardware SAS RAID is something not really matching that. Personally I dont want linux to be just nice kernel and console in 2015. RH is still solid in the sector it has chosen, I ask myself what was thats presentation goal? Also I have never seen Canonical or Mark to start fights like this one. The facts about patches were educative, but not the ego-flame.

[lin545]

@roboticterror Thats interesting how I was talking 8 months ago. I proudly run Gentoo now and zero Ubuntu. Ty for the vid!

[FedoraFTW]

bugs and crashing

sounds like linux

hahahaha

[roboticterror]

Hey Andy, did you ever learn how to cd?

[FedoraFTW]

i dont really use linux anymore, prolly once a week for like a couple mins.

[roboticterror]

My point is, you didn't know how to use it.

[FedoraFTW]

does it honestly matter?

nope

[Arkblu]

You never learned about the most commonly used command in bash, so your opinion on the subject doesn't carry much weight. You might as well say you are a DOS guru without knowing what DIR does.

[sunnz]

A distro is more than just the kernel though.

[ismouton]

Ubuntu helps because it is so pervasive (for Linux) it gives developers a stable set of APIs to aim for.

[ASCII808]

ubuntu is da best distro eva I can moke compiz vidz haha

[Hackintosh411]

ubuntu sucks

[JamesManes]

Fuck ubuntu