extreme training: 100 rep drop set

[kingdaleclarke]

this is kind of weak and in a way pointless, hellow? curls only work your biceps therefor if you get any results from this pathetic workout its only going to be a improvment in the bieps why not do shoulder pressed,lateral raises,push ups or something this is really really dumb

[JoshVicki]

man i hate people who go on about form.. theres no 1 "form" for lifting weights. if you use "perfect form" every workout your only hiting your muscle from 1 angle!!! cheat curls drag curls and sloppy ass jump squat curls are still curls too!!! Big ups for the 10X10s on bis bro... was that the only set that workout or did you repeat that a few times?

[mhickory]

awesome dude, awesome

[Sqiwamjon]

i made a lil vid too for endurance: ww.youtube.com/watch?v=aaNVGBB­lj-g  ( I wish I could put rage against the machine but I couldnt find the option in windows live movie maker )

[raindeerlol]

you should do POF training

[theoneshabby]

You have been training for 10 years and you look like that?

[mhickory]

@theoneshabby what do you like ya fuckin homo? you want me to take roids or something?

[theoneshabby]

@mhickory Im just saying eat some more protein, and while your at it how about you come up with a more intelligent diss then "fucking homo" You can get big without roids bro.

[InferiorThanYou]

@theoneshabby Everyone has their own definition of big. Please refrain from adding insipid comments on this video.

[mhickory]

@theoneshabby pal, till you have a video up of your incredible body, shut the fuck up!

[redscarf11]

@theoneshabby k he look s "like that" as you say but i bet hes stronger than you

[beefydeadeye]

perfect form not

[mhickory]

@beefydeadeye wow? did you figure that all on your own? or did you hear me say there would be many cheat curl?

[gacylikesbrutal]

how long you been lifting?

[mhickory]

@gacylikesbrutal ten years

[gacylikesbrutal]

@mhickory plz dont tell me youve been doing drop sets for 10 yrs : /

[mhickory]

@gacylikesbrutal 100 years actually

[voran1324]

extreme training is not always good..

in other words you better be doing short reps for the joints or your joints gonna give up..

[16thegoat16]

shocking form lad,waste of time n energy,going no where fast.

[mhickory]

@16thegoat16 shocking shocking

[iwatchvids520]

@16thegoat16 as long as he doesn't lean back then its okay if he goes up and stops with his back straight then nothing is bad in his form

[Ironman3355]

That is quite a display of endurance there friend. I appreciate lifters that push the limits like that. Good job

[TheBestGuitarSoloEVR]

Theres no science behind this, take a fucking exercise science course and you'll see what you did wrong. "Shocking the muscle" Wow.

[mhickory]

@TheBestGuitarSoloEVR actually, dum dum, Dr. Wayne Wescott, owner of many YMCA"S across New England, Did his own research studies on drop sets. He discovered that subjects gained 17% more strength with drop sets then with regular sets. As the fast twitch tire out, the medium twitch and slow twitch systematically take over. in other words, FUCK OFF!

[TheBestGuitarSoloEVR]

Yeah, Dr Wayne also said do those drop sets without any rest inbetween do you know what anaerobic training is or do you have to wikipedia that up too now

[mhickory]

@TheBestGuitarSoloEVR sorry pal, i took his classes at club industry. Heard it right from the source.

[TheBestGuitarSoloEVR]

pffft

[19Joejoejoe]

nd nother thing doing tht many reps will actually make your bis smaller. But im jus an amateur, so i dont no nething

[mhickory]

@19Joejoejoe you are right, you are an amateur and can't spell for shit!

[19Joejoejoe]

Ok what do you think you are, pro? Nd u can keep doin your stupid training style.... Wen i get to your age if i look nething like you ill jus give up

[korruptedking]

Less reps with good form > more cheat reps

[19Joejoejoe]

Looks intense but your not gonna gain any size. I know you said Cheat curls but i didnt even see one good curl... You need good form to really get too your bicep and tear it open. I dont really see anything positive that would come from this workout

[mhickory]

that is because you are an amateur

[stefanthealmighty]

atrocious form from the first rep with swinging

[hawkinsa21]

definitely. Bring the 'BACK' pain LOL

[stefanthealmighty]

good one :D

[joaking66]

cant that lead to overtraining?-

[motoz30]

first off, i'd bet dollars to donuts that non of you shit talkers could do this any better than this guy - yeah, some ppl could but they're not any of you. that said, yeah, arnold did advocate cheat reps at the end of sets to fully fatigue the muscle - he did not, to my knowledge, advocate 100 rep sets, w/ the vast majority of those reps being what most would consider cheat reps. if you see gains w/ this method more power to you, but for a muscle group like biceps i wouldn't advise it.

[hawkinsa21]

agreed with the not doing this for biceps. too small a muscle group and overtraining is not recommended for any muslce, which 100 reps will basically do.

[Theflammingnight]

ur using ur back to "swing" it.. it sucks

[mhickory]

you are an idiot, did you not listen to me saying they are cheat curls asshole? they have there purpose

[tlast2012dude]

this will no give you size gains. Size is with 5-8 reps.

[Pancha012]

he is pussy

[dis14u]

i kno that shit sucked

[2112mike]

how many sets of these should you do

[mhickory]

one

[DeadPariah]

I realize this is a high rep thing but at least do a full stretch on the bottom. If you crap out at 75 reps big deal.

[mhickory]

i have news for you, my left elbow does not fully extend do to a rebuilt elbow joint as a result of a car accident many years ago. so what do you want me to do now?

[DeadPariah]

Ok. Didn't know that. I've got a fucked up lower back myself so I know where you are comin from.

 Do what ya gotta do.

[burkburke]

weed

[sckraco]

Impressive. Good work dude.

[OvErLoRd400]

ur cheating u use ur momentum to lift the weight

[mhickory]

are you deaf?????

[DrakarthX]

That looks like a rather interesting way to vary the training. I am definately gonna try that out. (and yes, I do agree, cheat curls is unavoidable, because if they werent, the weights would get WAY too light). Thanks for the inspiration.

[pawnzorX]

not bad man, i feel bad with my 4x10 rep with 60pounds barbels lol

[itsdavedm]

your cheating by using your motion to lift the weight

try by sitting and doing curls with dumbbells way better results.. or try a different exercise to confuse your muscles...

not saying i can curl like this, but i never heard of anyone doing 100's for arms

[alexlowcaprice]

i do 100's but 4 time 25

[DeadPariah]

And your video is ...where?

[bigcheesec18]

Your forms shit from start to finish.

[mhickory]

really? do i care? im not the one filming a lame party and putting it on youtube, fatty,

[bigcheesec18]

No - instead you've filmed yourself liftin weights with the technique of a small boy and a body to match.

Up your carbs and protein and come back when you've got some size pee wee

[mhickory]

ya ok, if your so big and strong then show us, no vid, no validity.

[mrfunnymonkeyman]

are you kidding? his arms are huge. maybe not a 300 lb world champion bodybuilder but, he did exactly what he said he would do. he used normal form until he got exhausted. trust me, even if you do cheat curls, after your arms are so tired, cheat curls will become very difficult and improve your strength/endurance.

[bull333n]

ur throwing the wieght up rather then pulling it up with ur bicep

[mhickory]

they are called cheat curls dummy

[bull333n]

ah, i skipped the beggining when u said that :)

[Sqiwamjon]

100 reps ftw with AWESOME music this is great motivation video I do 100 reps sets all day with this! standing behind the neck triceps extension is even harder!

thanx!

A.N: all you negative mofo's go cry to your mommy and leave us alone we're working here while you're whining...QQ

[BigRy8]

u should take some time to rest between sets

[BlakeC94]

he might be doing hiit.

[bojanglesk88]

That must've been a viscious pump!

[Randleman2]

this is why america is embarassed every olympics in weightlifting becasue we are doing curls in the gym. the strongest men and women in the world aren't wasting their time with this garbage so why would you?

[carbiduis]

form WAS BAD, body should not sway/swim, keep elbows still

[mhickory]

you are absolutely ignorant

[rantanen1]

god ure stupid... xD

[carbiduis]

jerking motion in body, leaning forward, and moving the upper arm......SHITS WEAK!

[funk51]

i would train like this only every other month. i do something similar with dbs start w 50 than 45 all the way down to 15 amazing how heavy 15 lbers feel after all this only do 6 reps each arm with no rest.

[mhickory]

dude, give it up and go away

[SeanSaosin]

nice but horribe form man no need to cheat all the way through

full range of motion drop setting would develop your bis much more your biceps arent that impresssive

but comin along good work

pce

[mhickory]

right, and yours are?

[mhickory]

mine measure 18.5 inches. just be quiet know it all. or should i call you mr. perfect.

[GrahnFoerFaen]

Dude, these people have no idea wtf they're talking about, sometimes you need to shock your muscles if they refuse to grow, it's a good tip, but do you do this after you've done you regular routine and put up this dropset after that? or do you do this instead of your routine? nice work man, keep on pumpin'!

[mhickory]

i do it as my routine, once a month

[cwoolworth62page]

this shit works we do it at football i hadn't been sore like that in a long time.

[HKDrider]

drop sets hurt like a mofo. We do drop sets with the bench press a lot in football, i can usually bench 275-280, but doin a drop set startin at 195, doin down 10 pounds every set, i cant even do 135 without my spotter doin a massive curl basically. SO THIS CRAP WORKS!!! lol

[bolts512]

does this high of volume mixed in with normal rep ranges encourage endurance as well as total muscle fiber breakdown?

[mhickory]

i would say yes because it trains the slow twitch muscle fibers as well, and they are the endurance fibers

[yanki87]

them drop sets'll kill ya! xD

[gRANT1015]

you make me feel weak. i only do 3 sets of tens, with fortys. lol

[bigboymitchyc]

EDT Training would have been better if u want the BLOOD RUSH

[bagzie]

Geez. How sore were your arms for the next week Lol.....I tried this same technique with leg press > 10 reps with 10 plates each side, all the way down to a single plate, and afterwards it was barf-o-rama!

[sealabrulz]

holy shit thats painfull

[Randleman2]

This right here is why america is weak and is far behind other countries in the weightroom. We are embarassed every olympics. And i am american :-(

[dustinrlawrence]

lame comment Randleman2

[grafikcviolence]

who sings this song?

[mhickory]

rage against the machine

[bibliotheek357]

Its so easy to be a know-it-all on youtube.

[InferiorThanYou]

@bibliotheek357 Agreed. These people need to shut up and just watch the video.

[spade121981]

Waste of time.a better bicep workout is to do a set of preacher curls.one warm up and then 1 set to failure and then do barbell curls.one warm up and then 1 set to failure followed by 2 drop sets but only for 2 to 3 reps on each drop set.the preacher pre fatigues the bicep and then the biceps failure first on the barbell curls instead of the forearms and shoulders...should be using a straight bar too as the e-zcurl works the brachialis not the bicep major which explains why this guy has no arms.

[mhickory]

and none of us see your spaghetti arms now do we?

[spade121981]

no.. because there not spaghetti size.I actually know how to work the bicep major not the brachialis like you just wasted 100 reps doing...could have done just a couple of sets of hammer curls with dumbells to failure for that...Nice try though...when you know how to actually train let me know.

[mhickory]

ummm, when you can prove you are not a poser and put up a video, then call us. i am proud of my natural 18.5 inch arms thank you very much.

[ianwrestler]

good

[pumpiron4ever]

i wonder why you look like a little boy dropsets are for ripping your muscles

[drdeath169]

Intense bro, keep them up!!

[samyster3000]

you were cheat curling from the start lolz

[K4R1xKR13G3R]

it would b tough tho

[alexcool67518]

i do 100 of 150 lb and im 12

[K4R1xKR13G3R]

lol are u stupid?

[alexcool67518]

yes im stupid but im strong

[porkpie312]

haha. brilliant

[InferiorThanYou]

@alexcool67518 Strong as in stupid.

[vandammerules78]

ROFL the only thing 'extreme' about this is the extreme crapness of your workout.

this is the worst workout i have ever seen, you have fuck all muscle definition, also your body is terribly out of proportion, you look terrible.

Some advice for you: CHEAT CURLS ARE MEANT TO BE USED FOR THE LAST 2 REPS, NOT THE ENTIRE WORKOUT - ROFL

Go learn to workout.

[gruntjc]

hi mate, i'm going to refrain from saying anything negative - it doesnt help anyone.

i will say this:

* i think arm routines like yours belong in any number of joe weider's magazines for juiced athletes.

* your chest looks like it needs work and for a guy performing this much work on his arms, your arms should be at least twice the size

* let's see what you can squat & deadlift. post up a vid of these movements. e.g. you doing as much weight as you can for a 20 rep squat.

[mhickory]

deadlift vid is already up. 495 for 5. for 20 reps on squats i could knock out 225. look up the deadlift video. open your eyes.

[Lukelligence]

so.....when you've done that for bi's is that the workout over for bi's for you?

[mhickory]

YES, THE bicep workout is over.

[tipsandhintsboy]

lol this is the stupidest training advice ive ever seen

[mhickory]

hey fuck tard, if you have no respect for bodybuilding / bodybuilders, stay the fuck off my comments boxes. asshole !!

[layogurt]

absolutely insane dude crazy concentration for this much of a drop set

wish i could try it but my wrists are fucked

[planetfnfa]

Good shit

[iamscaringyou]

damn you are kickin those curl bar's ass

you probably could have done more

jeez nice work

[solidmoe5]

That's perfect for shocking the muscles so they have no choice but to grow. Idiots think keeping the same amount of reps, sets that they do will improve results, but why would the muscles need to change if there is no reason for them to.

Excellent video showing ppl how to get through a great growth zone so the muscles will have a reason to change.

Peace.

[mhickory]

thanks brother!

[mhickory]

when you swing up the weight

[BMan12121212]

That's one of the craziest things I've ever seen. I was literally willing you on watching that, sitting here with my face all scrunched up, lol. Yeah there were lots of cheat reps, but there HAS when you're doing something like that. I'm going to have a go at it, but I can only start on something like 40kg's as I can't realistically lift more for 10 reps. HAHA! I enjoyed it anyway.

[mhickory]

ha ha, thanks dude.

[swettybettybob]

hey mhickory. nice effort btw. what weight did u start off on?

[mhickory]

110, thanks.

[smilethis]

thanks for the vid man, i saw this a while back and have been trying to do them i only do 5-7 reps on the 120 - about 80 or 70lbs but after that i do the full 10, im working on it tho, jus sayin ur vids helped thanks

~rich

[mhickory]

i have studied arnold for 15 years. read all his books including the book pumping iron. arnold says there is nothing wrong with cheat curls. the term was coined as an actual exercise. there is a time and a place for them when the mucsle is exhausted so go fuck yourself and do a little research. if you knew arnold, you would eat your words.

[vandammerules87]

uh... no.

firstly, dont give me advice on what to do thanks, by the look of your terribly out of proportion, shit looking body, and the awful technique you have, id rather not listen to your 'tips'. thanks though.

and wow, studying a BOOK for 15 years, hahahaha, watch pumping iron retard, arnold doesnt do anything anywhere near as retarded as what you do, he does isolation excersises for his biceps by doing things such as preacher curls

go fuck yourself you piece of shit

[mhickory]

hey you are the ass, you are not hearing me, i said i studied arnold for 15 years, not a book. also, they are arnolds tips, not mine. i feel that you really have a lot of anger, and a learning disability.

[mhickory]

hey guess what? go fuck yourself, that is something you may understand!

[Canook76]

This was incredible; what a display of endurance. I don't understand the hecklers on these videos; like I just watched a video of a man deadlifting 700lbs about four times, and he had about 50 people on there criticizing him. And I suspect most, if not all of them, could deadlift that much weight--just as most of your critics couldn't do a 100 rep drop set of bicep curls--that is remarkable. Jealously is indeed one of the greatest sins isn't it. Great effort man

[mhickory]

heaven is waiting for you!

[voodoofuzz13]

completamente catabolico, ecco perchè hai i bicipiti piccoli

[florjames]

I did some quick #s and you pulled 7,500 pnds! That's really good. I did this kinda training when i was between 15-22. Now that i'm in my thirties, i train strongman and flip tires and stuff. Training for strongman i only do DB hammer curls. I'm 32 now and stronger than ever. That type of training your doing built a great foundation for me. Also i'm starting to graze the surface of Olympic lifting. Good luck with your lifting. I encourage you to try both Strongman and Olympic training. see ya

[mhickory]

thanks man! look at my spartan training videos!

[florjames]

Good training in those Spartan Training Videos! Keep up the good work, stay healthy, and keep at it.

[Hiddenindian]

quit cheating and useing your back you noob

[mhickory]

lets see you do it fuck.

[molvolgia]

hey man im not saying this wont have any affect as we all have different techniques for each other but even the 6 time winner of Mr. olympia - Lee Haney says, "Quality not Quantity"

[1dumbdumb]

u guys are geeked, proper form or not it's INTENSE! good stuff

[hairy0red0sox]

two words over training

[pisspuddle]

roflmao lol you are like one of them guido guys at the gym who do terrible lifts along with 0 potential at growth lol trainer for 11 years huh we can assume u started at 18 so your 29 and your still skinny after years of "extreme muscle building training" ROFLMAO ha ha... ha ... ha ha

[mhickory]

you have nothing to show pal

[ringo45]

Stripping weights is unbelievably pointless. How about doing inclination sets instead and getting your muscle to fail at a heigher weight. Basically all you're doing is wasting energy, thinking you've accomplished more by lifting less each time. And watch that body sway at least do them proper.

[mhickory]

you are a complete moron. Dr. Wayne Wescott conducted his own study involving dropsets with 500 people. he concluded that dropsets build 18 percent more muscle then regular sets by using all the musle fibers as the largest ones get fatigued first and then rely on what is left to get the weight up, fuck,

[ringo45]

So...one doctor's study is what you base your workout off of... How about studying what actual bodybuilders or great athletes do to build muscle instead. Because I've watched people in the gym for four years now that do dropsets every week and they have made absolutely no progress with building muscle or definition. Plus, you don't have to be an asshole to everyone who disagrees with your "EXTREME training." How about being modest and taking a different view into consideration.

[mhickory]

hey, how bout this. GO FUCK YOURSELF!

[Galaxino]

please dont make me laugh.. your steps are absolutely wrong and what? your whole body was moving when u perform this standing bar curls !!!! Waahahhaahaahaha.. yea mayb your great for doin 100 rep.. but hey.. have u heard catabolic reaction ? lol !

[mhickory]

umm, keep jerking off to japanese porn.

[Ott0matic]

well i thought you guys share videos and not all of them are of you. So i thought maybe you were that skinny ass punk in the red on the extreme natural bodybuilding vid.

[Ott0matic]

overtraining.

[mhickory]

not if done once a month, moron.

[Ott0matic]

so who are you mhickory? the guy at the beginning or the younger looking kid?

[mhickory]

what are you talking about. i am the only one in the entire video.

[winchesterlad69]

it true tho

its fine he;s doing it im just telling people who don;t know that

[mhickory]

you know, its not about perfect form, like i said, Arnold did cheat curls, acknowledged it, and look at him. this hurts nothing.

[winchesterlad69]

poor technique shouldnt be moving forward or back

places stresses on the back

if he is so focussed on muscle growth sit down and do it concentrating on the muscles

[mhickory]

shut the fuck up

[LSSRaymondKelly]

I just tried that yesterday. But I started with 70 pounds on the straight bar curl with form, going down to 60,50,40,30,20. I did the 20 twenty times in a row then did 10 reps with thirty then another ten reps with forty pounds then stopped. My biceps got pretty dam sore when I was done and they bloated right out. I had a hard time wiping the sweat off my head because my arms were so dam fatigued. not to mention right before I did that drop set I worked out my triceps until failure as well.

[mhickory]

wow, nice job. way to pump it up!

[ImPaulpants]

Oooh I've done this before at different weights... It hurts.

I did it for every muscle

[lzpnob2]

nicely done

[Angleechaneen]

Ouch !!

[fuckedupswede]

it was great, did it today, amazing pump!

[ImmortalWarrior90]

Well done ,i feel the pain and the joy ,too ; )

[conratty]

that's some creative drop setting

[nipols]

awesome

[pinkwrapbub]

Anyone ever seen a 200lb. fixed barbell? That would be sweet to warm up and start at 200 and go down to 30 or 20 lbs. 110 isnt enough!

[yummybacon]

try working up.....

[jmhstang]

I know that hurt like a son of a bitch! Good job.

[AntiSpammerForceFour]

damn when i get up to 110 for 10 im gonna try this.

[Fr3eHugs]

omfg!

Man ur a beaaaaaaast!!

[topformfitness]

Awesome... drop sets and other high intensity techniques (partial reps, super-sets, rest-pause, cheat reps, negatives, etc) will blast thru plateaus to new gains!

[KaseyAkira]

Now this form of training actually does have some scientific validity behind it.  High reps of 30 to 40 done with control are used to increase capilerization and mitochondria proliferation, which are needed to supply bigger muscles with more blood (without which, bigger muscles would immediately atrophy). However, there's ways your training method could be improved. The law of least effort says you'll adapt better to 1 given stimulus at a time.

[KaseyAkira]

So while this training isn't WRONG, it can definitely be made better by the following.

1) Use this idea for larger muscles where your biceps will be involved, such as seated rows or seated pull downs. This will improve your overall VO2 and improve local endurance in the lats AND biceps, not just the biceps.

2) Moving more slowly, with a 2/2 candance is more specific for achieving the goal.

3) Pick a light weight and try to hit failure around 30 to 40. 100 is probably unnecessary.

[KaseyAkira]

Oh and also, at the beginning of the vid, you say "you can try this at home if you'd like" - at the end of the vid, you say "dont try this at home". Which is it? And why cant we try any of the moves in your video at home? Do you believe they're too dangerous for home use?

[mhickory]

yes, it would kill you.

[topformfitness]

I agree re- compound movements, and that such high volume isn't necessary for the effect, but slow reps not always the best in this case.

[KaseyAkira]

Yea I know. It's probably kill us.