UR A ASS HOLE JEWS ARE NOT sinners christians are because they still eat pork which is a sin still because the first is binded by the second so fuck u dick but BILL MAHRER is actually going to hell
Ben Franklin was a quaker. And most of the others were deists like Edison. Napoleon was Catholic. and EINSTEIN WAS JEWISH. Are you just making most of these up?!?!?
Try Python. 'Oh Lord please don't burn us, don't grill or toast your flock. Don't put us on the barbecue or simmer us in stock. Don't braise or bake or boil us or stir-fry us in a wok.'
@TheOriginalNesstar You'd probably enjoy the works of Tim Minchin. He's a musical stand-up comedian with incredible ability, and many of his songs are atheistic. One of my favorites is called Thank You God (Sam's Mum), but there are a number of others. He also has a pithy beat poem called Storm.
I was lucky enough to see him live this summer, and after the show I was left to wonder if I had ever witnessed a more talented performer in my life. I tend to doubt it.
HAHA! Lack theist belief? You make it sound like talking to an invisible man is a positive trait. Why not say 'those who have trancended the need to believe stories stolen from other cultures that don't reflect the self at the period in history?'
@Sickopath333 Not holding a belief in a personal god is the definition of an atheist. Ben Franklin lacked a belief in a personal god. (Deists lack belief in a personal god) If a person holds a belief in a personal god, they are a theist.
@eveningcoconut76 Actually an atheist would be a belief that there is no god period; personal, impersonal, hands-on/hands-off, etc. etc. Perhaps the wording and semantics here is the problem, but the list here seems to be of deists and atheists (religious views that there is no god or no personal god) when the first title that comes up seems very suggestive that it would be atheists only. The video description and title also flat out says atheists, so BF, being a deist, doesn't really fit.
@Sickopath333 Technically, atheism could just mean not being a theist. Deists aren't theists. It's funny that at different periods in history the deists have been claimed by different camps. Lately, the religious people have been claiming deists (particularly if they are scientists).
@apollos6640 Well I do, essentially because I am not one of them. I like to hunt, but do so ethically within the laws of the state. I may be different than some other non believers. I am a Libertarian that generally votes Republican. I don't drink and live a very traditional life with a wife and kids. I was raised Catholic, and never had any bad experiences with it. I just began doubting when I was an adolescent, and then just grew to believe religion is all nonsense.
@apollos6640 In answer to your question, as an atheist, I'd have to say not necessarily. For starters, all atheists do not think the same, so who knows? But for me, animals have dominated as the top of the food chain and have build cities etc, so I guess in a sense we're 'on top', but dolphins are much smarter than us in a different way, and apes are similar to us. I think humans are animals technically anyway, so we're all living creatures and we're all important.
Agreed, Strikezone83. A great many of our founding fathers held deistic beliefs. I also saw Bill Maher say on a video that he is agnostic (one who admits he does not know), not atheist.
Honestly, we use the argument because they show up with like 5 largely known atheist scientists, so we have to at least show them who we have. It is a little childish when you think about it, but its the only way to counter the argument.
Why do people point out famous atheists or theists? Are they trying to prove they're right because they're keeping such well known company? I am an atheist. I simply don't buy the whole god bit. I have no interest in converting anybody to atheism nor does it bother me when people are religious. What doesbothers me is when my life is affected by religions. eg I cannot go shopping because of xmas and easter holidays. Are atheists forced to close their shops? I am interested to know.
Not to sound like a theist who scours youtube looking for things to complain about, but there are a few of these names who I don't know you could call bona fied atheists. Wilde, Einstein, Jefferson, and Hawking are a few who come to mind immediately whose religious beliefs aren't always clearly understood, but aren't necessarily atheistic.
Actually Einstein stated clearly that he is not atheist. I will try to quote him :
"I never said I am an atheist, and those who quote me like this have no shame. I stand here, after studying the Universe and it's complex structure, and I think : There is no way that these wonders are a mere result of a series of coincidences."
Now, I am not sure if he said it like that, but that was the idea. The Universe is far too complex to be a mere result of coincidences.
Wilde was a devout Christian anarchist - hence the spirituality and hedonism coexisting. His faith was the main reason he was never openly homosexual. He was also formally accepted into the Catholic church before his death.
Personal God? Deism is technically a 'brand' of theism and does not constitute non-belief, furthermore you did not specify this in the video. Quite frankly if a deistic god created you and I, I see that as fairly personal.
@wildeanbeast I disagree that deism is technically a brand of theism. Thomas Paine was a deist, while Rick Perry is a theist. Big difference in their beliefs in a personal god.
@opoc666 "Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprize, every expanded prospect."- James Madison letter to William Bradford, Jr., April 1, 1774.
Preceeding the letter from which you mined this quote, Madison writes to Bradford September 25,1773, of his lament that Bradford has chosen not to study Divinity. Madison expresses his hope that Bradford in his secular academic path will still become "a fervent Advocate in the cause of Christ"
In another letter fot Bradford, Jan 24 1774,
Madison expresses his disdain for ecclesiastical establishments (not to be confused with belief in the divinity of christ).
Then we get to letter and quote you sited above from Madison to Bradford, April 1, 1774.
Taken in the proper context, Madison is adressing the religous persecution of Baptists in Virginia, the "bondage" he refers to is bondage on their freedom of conscience to worship as they see fit.
Notice how he says"Religious BONDAGE shackles" not "religious BONDS shackle"
For a comprehensive summary of James Madison's views on Christianity I would suggest reading his Memorial and Remonstrance, 1785.
Until then here is Madison's reply to Patrick Henry's propoal on Religious Freedom, 1776
"That religion, or the duty which we owe to our Creator, and the manneer of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction not by force or violence ... it is the mutual duty of all to practise Christian forbearance, love and charity towards eachother"
I was christian, but after watching this video I see my faith is backwards, I see I have been such a fool to fall for fairy tells, And my make believe sky daddy. I'm now an Atheist. ;-)
It is funny how both Laurie and House are atheists. I guess that's why he's so convincing on the show at it. Interestingly, though, he's reportedly a very nice guy in real life and apparently is a devoted husband and father.
I think the problem with religion is that if they try to argue against an educated (not an ignorant skinhead peace-of-shit) atheist, the atheist will naturally win because theism ISN'T LOGICAL. It's called faith for a reason. You can use the principles that creationism throws against atheism and basically provide a theory that basically, for lack of a better term existence. If you want to believe in whatever, I can't change you, but don't think you can out-reason a reason based belief system.
I noted the comments that say 'so who cares what these people think'. I do they are some geat people. Then again Hitler wasn't an atheist, Stalin trained in a seminary and never got over superstition, the inquisition was carrying out gods work, Osama Bin Laden is a believer. Make the list of prominent Theists and you come up with alot of bad people.
Stalin was an atheist, no question about that, but what people fail to realize is that Stalin did not do the nasty things he did because of his atheism, but because of his power hungry rule, because of his lust for power. I am an atheist too, so don't think I am trying to target you, just sort of answering a bit. Religion causes much more of a mess than atheism ever has.
Deists. identify a general spirituality with an essence that underpins and binds everything together. In modern times deism has dissapeared in proportion to uncovering the laws of gravity, relativity, evolution etc. Deists are atheists in the strict sense - and most especially in the sense that people like Benjamin Franklin were interested in uncovering the laws of science. To the extent that he for example understood electricity he ceased to be a Deist.
Yes, deists lack a belief in a personal god. If they did not, then they'd be called theists. That's the way I see it anyway. If you call yourself a deist, then you lack a belief in a personal god and are also an a-theist.
I believe there is a logical fallacy for what you do here.
An atheist is without belief in a god. I think we agree there. A deist thinks a god started the whole thing and then left. Thus since he believe in a god (even tho its not personal nor care what he does etc) he does believe in a god.
So hes neither a theist nor atheist hes a deist. There is not just the two options theist or atheist.
I would slightly correct your definition of "atheist" to specify a "personal god"- I would actually call someone who lacks a belief in a non-personal god an a-deist. (Minor semantics though). I respectfully disagree that someone can possibly be neither a theist nor an atheist. Either you have a belief in a personal god or you lack that belief. I see no middle ground (that one can hold both or neither belief at once). To echo RenegageSalmon, "Here's to respectful online exchanges."
No, an atheist is someone who lacks a belief in a personal god and is therefore without theism. Therefore technically deists are atheists because they are without theism.
Neither was Thomas Paine, who vocally disagreed with atheism. This list is so poorly researched I´m amazed someone had the temerity to put this together without doing any work whatsoever.
Neither Jefferson nor Paine believed in a personal god. Therefore, they were both a-theists: they lacked theistic beliefs. That is why they called themselves deists- they lacked a belief in a personal god.
The question of scientific determinism gave rise to questions about Einsteins position on theological determinism, and whether or not he believed in God, or in a god. In 1929, Einstein told Rabbi Herbert S. Goldstein "I believe in Spinozas God, who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a God Who concerns Himself with the fate and the doings of mankind."
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."- Einstein
so does this video suggest i should be a non believer because of the "opinions" of some people who are well known? who cares what people think or write on walls. i am intelligent and secure enough with myself to decide for what myself what seems most believable. things that are as true as 1+1=2 are facts everything else is popular opinion and personal opinion.
I think that one of the ideas you can get from this is to stop some religion activists who always says "There are X hundreds of thousands of peoples who thinks like us, they can't be wrong"... or even give names of well known people to backup their beliefs.
Here, non-believers also got a list of well-known people, to take names from.
"Like many other key figures during the European Enlightenment, Voltaire considered himself a deist.
He did not believe that absolute faith, based upon any particular or singular religious text or tradition of revelation, was needed to believe in God."
I created the video. An atheist is a person who lacks theist beliefs. Voltaire is such a person. In your post, you state that he was a deist, not a theist. Therefore, he was without theist beliefs... he was and a-theist. If I included someone unjustly I apologize; however, Voltaire lacked theist beliefs.
Google "Quotes by Albert Einstein" and you'll see 30% of them are about God and the Universe.
Frankly, for what it's worth, I find the Atheist argument the most absurd. At least have the wisdom to admit "I don't know for CERTAIN God does not exist".
Even most believers know they don't know. That's why they call it FAITH.
We don't believe there is no God of any sort, however we just don't see anything really pointing to that, though our minds could change if something did in fact come up.
That's just it, you assume we're all certain that there is no higher power of any kind which actually only makes up a few of us. Though, I, like the majority of atheists, see a lot of cases against the existence of a God and therefore doubt that one exists.
This is a list of non-believers of what, exactly??
I know for fact several people in this video are not Atheist, but Agnostic.
One says I KNOW God does not exist, the other says I DON't know for sure one way or another, so I choose not to speculate.
That is a HUGE difference.
And how many of these people just don't believe an a white-bearded Abrahamic (Jewish/Christian/Islamic) God, but believe in a Divine Creator (like Aldous Huxley)?
yes, but you can detect them. also we know it exist thanks to the science behind the spectroscopie(might be translated wrong, the science wich deals with how rainbows are created etc)
Oh come on! I'll accept that my skepticism makes me a weak atheist (being agnostic) based on the a- meaning without, that makes perfect sense to me. But deism!!? Firstly, one thing being closer to another thing as opposed to something else does not make it the same as the thing it is closer too! Secondly if you really want go down this road would it not be more accurate to ask if deism is closer to THEISM/atheism not Christianity/atheism? Could we not in fact classify deism as a form of theism?
Both of your points are valid. The reason I jumped to Christianity is because so many anti-atheists are quick to say that this nation was founded with Christian principles. It was founded by men who believed in God only to explain creation. The reason I say that they're closer to atheists than Christians/theists is because I honestly think that if these men had lived in post-Darwin times they would have had no reason to entertain the idea of a higher power.
Hi RenegadeSalmon, yes I understand the argument that a couple of hundred years ago a deist would be considered similarly to an atheist but I think that mode of thought is outdated and irrelevant today and I doubt there's many modern atheists that would want to align themselves with deism for any reason other than to win an argument! I also think most people now would consider deism as a type theism although I do understand that's not the case historically. Basically I don't think....
True. I can see how including them in the video is somewhat misleading. Of course, it doesn't explicitly everyone in the video is an atheist. Non-believers is a pretty loose term. "Individuals lacking theistic beliefs" or something like that kicks the video off. Oh well. Here's to respectful online exchanges.
this country was founded from believers of God, the moral standards werent created by men, if that was the case the whole world would be scattered by different moralities. i can hug a person that doesnt speak english and it means love regardless, and i can hug a blind person, even without seeing a hug or kiss before in his life, he feels the love. my friend, jesus is life, not death.
I'm glad you have peace of mind, but I'm afraid I must disagree with the points you made. The men who played key roles in the founding of the US were mostly deists. They believed in a God only to explain a question science couldn't at the time. Also, I think that the world is made up of scattered moralities. The fundamentals are the same, but that's because the fundamentals are necessary for successful communities. Natural selection ensured that the most harmonious communities would survive.
The definition of "atheist" that I use in my life is - someone who lacks belief in a personal god. I basically treat the word atheist as I do apolitical or asexual. The "a" simply means- without. Lacking belief in something is not an assertion that the opposite is certain.
I get it, yeah I guess the proper term for what I'm talking about would be "antitheist".
Which is what Christopher Hitchens prefers to thinks of himself as, I just found out.
It's not a term you hear often, but it's useful for distinguishing between those who just don't believe, and those who think that believing is absolutely harmful and dangerous.
I think more people should most definitely be aware of the difference between "atheist" and "antitheist".
no. hitchens clearly has stated in precisely all of his debates and on most of his book tours that he is not sure that a god doesnt exist. he said nobody can claim this, but that it is PROBABLE, or at least the default stance until proved. antitheist means that he is against the ideologies and teachings of religions, as opposed to lacking a belief in a deity.
your definitions of antitheism and atheism were wrong, and thanks to eveningcoconut for pointing out one of them. just correcting ;)
I agree completely with you, I just worded my last post wrong. But as Deists they both believed in a God who did not intefere in human affairs or any functions in the natural world. And Both of them did not attend any congregation of any kind. So their relationship with the God they believed in was by default, "personal" that is to say not shared. To each his own. Amen.
UR A ASS HOLE JEWS ARE NOT sinners christians are because they still eat pork which is a sin still because the first is binded by the second so fuck u dick but BILL MAHRER is actually going to hell
Gabrielgun9000 1 month ago
Bravo!
A brilliant list and growing...
Never check your mind at the door~
Tinkerbots 1 month ago
Ben Franklin was a quaker. And most of the others were deists like Edison. Napoleon was Catholic. and EINSTEIN WAS JEWISH. Are you just making most of these up?!?!?
TheLifeOfaPsycho 2 months ago
Oh Georgie! That old fuck!
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Taft was an atheist? How did he manage to get ellected?
Ninvus2 6 months ago
Intelligent group right here
Seanjkbs 6 months ago
ADD MY NAME ALSO TO THE LIST... :)
kesav1985 8 months ago
@kesav1985 SAME MUCH!!!
SturFriedBrains 7 months ago
you forgot to put in Average Joe the mailman
Slic3R1 8 months ago
Someone should compose an "Athiest Song". Kind of like Adam Sandler's "Hanuka Song".
TheOriginalNesstar 10 months ago
Try Python. 'Oh Lord please don't burn us, don't grill or toast your flock. Don't put us on the barbecue or simmer us in stock. Don't braise or bake or boil us or stir-fry us in a wok.'
cagafort 9 months ago
@TheOriginalNesstar You'd probably enjoy the works of Tim Minchin. He's a musical stand-up comedian with incredible ability, and many of his songs are atheistic. One of my favorites is called Thank You God (Sam's Mum), but there are a number of others. He also has a pithy beat poem called Storm.
I was lucky enough to see him live this summer, and after the show I was left to wonder if I had ever witnessed a more talented performer in my life. I tend to doubt it.
RenegadeSalmon 3 months ago
Tchaikovsky - Waltz of the flowers
craigmcewen 10 months ago
this is my list of athiests : everyone who's not a retard is an athiest
paavya 1 year ago
I love these lists of atheists. keep'em coming. We need to know the fight against superstition is not lost! :D
Usernamenottaken2k 1 year ago
NICE!
HIMYMjocke 1 year ago
HAHA! Lack theist belief? You make it sound like talking to an invisible man is a positive trait. Why not say 'those who have trancended the need to believe stories stolen from other cultures that don't reflect the self at the period in history?'
MrWarProfiteer 1 year ago
NO WAY Manson is an ATHIEST, I never would have guessed.
615Deathdealer 1 year ago
Benjamin Franklin was a deist at the very least. Even belief in an unpersonal God naturally discounts them from being an atheist.
Sickopath333 1 year ago
@Sickopath333 Not holding a belief in a personal god is the definition of an atheist. Ben Franklin lacked a belief in a personal god. (Deists lack belief in a personal god) If a person holds a belief in a personal god, they are a theist.
eveningcoconut76 1 year ago 2
@eveningcoconut76 Actually an atheist would be a belief that there is no god period; personal, impersonal, hands-on/hands-off, etc. etc. Perhaps the wording and semantics here is the problem, but the list here seems to be of deists and atheists (religious views that there is no god or no personal god) when the first title that comes up seems very suggestive that it would be atheists only. The video description and title also flat out says atheists, so BF, being a deist, doesn't really fit.
Sickopath333 1 year ago
@Sickopath333 Technically, atheism could just mean not being a theist. Deists aren't theists. It's funny that at different periods in history the deists have been claimed by different camps. Lately, the religious people have been claiming deists (particularly if they are scientists).
BrooklynRagtag 1 year ago
@Sickopath333 Nobody truly knows about BF. He did however seek assistance through satanic.... choices.
LACKLUSTER101 1 year ago
What wonderful company
UsqueAdNauseam 1 year ago
Count me in.
armydude4567 1 year ago
Stephen Fry.
laalki80 1 year ago
It's great to discern there are quite a few of prominent figures amongst us ^.^
RemixedVideoDJ 1 year ago
You forgot Kaku, Dawkins, and Adam Savage!
Granted, Kaku calls himself a Pantheist, but that is essentially atheism.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
Your souls shall burn in hell! Jk Go Abraham Lincoln!
ProStarly83 1 year ago
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Electronic897 1 year ago
Do atheists believe that Man is of greater worth that other animals? If so, Why? if Not, why not?
apollos6640 1 year ago
@apollos6640 Well I do, essentially because I am not one of them. I like to hunt, but do so ethically within the laws of the state. I may be different than some other non believers. I am a Libertarian that generally votes Republican. I don't drink and live a very traditional life with a wife and kids. I was raised Catholic, and never had any bad experiences with it. I just began doubting when I was an adolescent, and then just grew to believe religion is all nonsense.
jrewert 1 year ago
@apollos6640 In answer to your question, as an atheist, I'd have to say not necessarily. For starters, all atheists do not think the same, so who knows? But for me, animals have dominated as the top of the food chain and have build cities etc, so I guess in a sense we're 'on top', but dolphins are much smarter than us in a different way, and apes are similar to us. I think humans are animals technically anyway, so we're all living creatures and we're all important.
lepsychokaybird 1 year ago
@apollos6640
ya because were smarter
buckeyefan2107 1 year ago
@buckeyefan2107 And Daniel Radcliffe
tjnama 1 year ago
Awesome job!! :)
I didn't know Bill Gates was a non-believer...
I read somewhere that Steve Wozniak (Spelling) is a non theist, but Steve Jobs is a buddist or something like that. lol
nice work nonetheless
greenleaflink 1 year ago
Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jeffersn were abosutely no athiests. They were DIESTS they believed there is a God but he does not influence the world
strikezone93 1 year ago
Agreed, Strikezone83. A great many of our founding fathers held deistic beliefs. I also saw Bill Maher say on a video that he is agnostic (one who admits he does not know), not atheist.
AdrienneAce 1 year ago
@strikezone93 Yeah, but they lived before Darwin. If they were alive now, they'd probably be in the atheist or agnostic camp.
jrewert 1 year ago
Honestly, we use the argument because they show up with like 5 largely known atheist scientists, so we have to at least show them who we have. It is a little childish when you think about it, but its the only way to counter the argument.
VictimeDeReligion 1 year ago
Why do people point out famous atheists or theists? Are they trying to prove they're right because they're keeping such well known company? I am an atheist. I simply don't buy the whole god bit. I have no interest in converting anybody to atheism nor does it bother me when people are religious. What doesbothers me is when my life is affected by religions. eg I cannot go shopping because of xmas and easter holidays. Are atheists forced to close their shops? I am interested to know.
moneyorder2008 1 year ago
Jesuses is gonna whip your ass for this.
TheZuikaku 1 year ago
Not to sound like a theist who scours youtube looking for things to complain about, but there are a few of these names who I don't know you could call bona fied atheists. Wilde, Einstein, Jefferson, and Hawking are a few who come to mind immediately whose religious beliefs aren't always clearly understood, but aren't necessarily atheistic.
glassboy 1 year ago
everyone is one god away from being an atheist.
you are an atheist by default, until someone tells you about a god. Then of course, they are lying for a undetectable god.
Hell, I bet most ministers/priests are atheist.
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@glassboy
Actually Einstein stated clearly that he is not atheist. I will try to quote him :
"I never said I am an atheist, and those who quote me like this have no shame. I stand here, after studying the Universe and it's complex structure, and I think : There is no way that these wonders are a mere result of a series of coincidences."
Now, I am not sure if he said it like that, but that was the idea. The Universe is far too complex to be a mere result of coincidences.
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man they all looked annoyed by theists i hope they get a better photo of me
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kingnotorious 2 years ago
Oscar Wilde was a Chatolic. If you don´t believe me read the selfish giant.
Cuythulu 2 years ago
Oscar Wilde, Albert Einstein?
This is what happens when your list is compiled from wikipedia.
wildeanbeast 2 years ago
@wildeanbeast Yes- both Wilde and Einstein lacked a belief in a personal god.
eveningcoconut76 2 years ago
Wilde was a devout Christian anarchist - hence the spirituality and hedonism coexisting. His faith was the main reason he was never openly homosexual. He was also formally accepted into the Catholic church before his death.
Personal God? Deism is technically a 'brand' of theism and does not constitute non-belief, furthermore you did not specify this in the video. Quite frankly if a deistic god created you and I, I see that as fairly personal.
wildeanbeast 2 years ago
@wildeanbeast I disagree that deism is technically a brand of theism. Thomas Paine was a deist, while Rick Perry is a theist. Big difference in their beliefs in a personal god.
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atheists believe that the highest truth is the natural world.
if thats true then murder isnt bad, its just nature.
if thats true then theft isnt bad, its just nature.
rape is just nature.
pedophilia is nature.
torture is nature.
war is nature.
fuck atheism, and naturalism. blind, ignorant fools! its your God given right to be a dipshit, but i say go fuck yourselves.
GLORY TO GOD! god is the highest truth, and nature is gods BITCH!
GOD cannot do wrong, what GOD does IS just and righteous.
DazmoTube 2 years ago
As an Atheist I was enjoying this compilation until it got to JAMES MADISON.
Wow, whoever made this knows nothing about JAMES MADISON. He was as Christian as it gets.
opoc666 2 years ago
@opoc666 "Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprize, every expanded prospect."- James Madison letter to William Bradford, Jr., April 1, 1774.
eveningcoconut76 2 years ago
Preceeding the letter from which you mined this quote, Madison writes to Bradford September 25,1773, of his lament that Bradford has chosen not to study Divinity. Madison expresses his hope that Bradford in his secular academic path will still become "a fervent Advocate in the cause of Christ"
In another letter fot Bradford, Jan 24 1774,
Madison expresses his disdain for ecclesiastical establishments (not to be confused with belief in the divinity of christ).
opoc666 2 years ago
Then we get to letter and quote you sited above from Madison to Bradford, April 1, 1774.
Taken in the proper context, Madison is adressing the religous persecution of Baptists in Virginia, the "bondage" he refers to is bondage on their freedom of conscience to worship as they see fit.
Notice how he says"Religious BONDAGE shackles" not "religious BONDS shackle"
... Continuted
opoc666 2 years ago
For a comprehensive summary of James Madison's views on Christianity I would suggest reading his Memorial and Remonstrance, 1785.
Until then here is Madison's reply to Patrick Henry's propoal on Religious Freedom, 1776
"That religion, or the duty which we owe to our Creator, and the manneer of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction not by force or violence ... it is the mutual duty of all to practise Christian forbearance, love and charity towards eachother"
opoc666 2 years ago
I was christian, but after watching this video I see my faith is backwards, I see I have been such a fool to fall for fairy tells, And my make believe sky daddy. I'm now an Atheist. ;-)
draco5638 2 years ago
lol i doubt this video made you into a atheist
JoshRobertson142 2 years ago
@JoshRobertson142 Oh Darn I'm Busted..:::smile::::
draco5638 2 years ago
Woo! Get out and enjoy life on your own terms, because you only have one :)
derrickc7 2 years ago
@draco5638 I think you've missed the point of the video.
eveningcoconut76 2 years ago
@eveningcoconut76 No, I was just trying to be funny..;-)
draco5638 2 years ago
@draco5638 Ah, gotcha :)
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goodcitymusic 1 year ago
YEAH!!!!
JefferyWimberly 2 years ago
Add me to that...
qdaboo2 2 years ago
Wow, such cool people. I wanna be an atheist too!
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goodcitymusic 1 year ago
You forgot Hugh Laurie and Ricky Gervais.
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@iamericwhite and Daniel Radcliffe
tjnama 1 year ago
@iamericwhite No way? House is an atheist? I never would have guessed. He seems so warm and spiritual on the series lol
Usernamenottaken2k 1 year ago
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Heheh, indeed.
It is funny how both Laurie and House are atheists. I guess that's why he's so convincing on the show at it. Interestingly, though, he's reportedly a very nice guy in real life and apparently is a devoted husband and father.
iamericwhite 1 year ago
@iamericwhite Yeah I heard that as well. Amazing actor that one.
Usernamenottaken2k 1 year ago
I can sleep easy knowing the creator of Star Trek was an Athiest.
Robsfund 2 years ago 13
Brilliantly done!What illustrious company to keep!
felandath 2 years ago
@felandath Thanks!
eveningcoconut76 2 years ago
Cheers mate!
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goodcitymusic 1 year ago
I think the problem with religion is that if they try to argue against an educated (not an ignorant skinhead peace-of-shit) atheist, the atheist will naturally win because theism ISN'T LOGICAL. It's called faith for a reason. You can use the principles that creationism throws against atheism and basically provide a theory that basically, for lack of a better term existence. If you want to believe in whatever, I can't change you, but don't think you can out-reason a reason based belief system.
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goodcitymusic 1 year ago
There are some of the coolest people who ever walked on earth in this list. Wow, I´m not alone. :)
SpaggyMedia 2 years ago
@SpaggyMedia Thanks!
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goodcitymusic 1 year ago
I noted the comments that say 'so who cares what these people think'. I do they are some geat people. Then again Hitler wasn't an atheist, Stalin trained in a seminary and never got over superstition, the inquisition was carrying out gods work, Osama Bin Laden is a believer. Make the list of prominent Theists and you come up with alot of bad people.
kskirkstall 2 years ago 2
don't know about stalin but adolf old boy was catholic...
RAGHUVARVASUDEV 2 years ago
Stalin was an atheist, no question about that, but what people fail to realize is that Stalin did not do the nasty things he did because of his atheism, but because of his power hungry rule, because of his lust for power. I am an atheist too, so don't think I am trying to target you, just sort of answering a bit. Religion causes much more of a mess than atheism ever has.
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goodcitymusic 1 year ago
Deists. identify a general spirituality with an essence that underpins and binds everything together. In modern times deism has dissapeared in proportion to uncovering the laws of gravity, relativity, evolution etc. Deists are atheists in the strict sense - and most especially in the sense that people like Benjamin Franklin were interested in uncovering the laws of science. To the extent that he for example understood electricity he ceased to be a Deist.
kskirkstall 2 years ago
Jolie is an actress not an actor
XzatheistX 2 years ago
Actresses are actors, silly.
clayburngriffin 2 years ago 2
many of these, for example marylin manson, are what christians would consider "immoral" so this may backfire :p
very interesting video though
wehavebiscuits 2 years ago
great song!!!
oh yea and add me too :D
Streuselsturm 2 years ago
Yes, deists lack a belief in a personal god. If they did not, then they'd be called theists. That's the way I see it anyway. If you call yourself a deist, then you lack a belief in a personal god and are also an a-theist.
eveningcoconut76 2 years ago
I believe there is a logical fallacy for what you do here.
An atheist is without belief in a god. I think we agree there. A deist thinks a god started the whole thing and then left. Thus since he believe in a god (even tho its not personal nor care what he does etc) he does believe in a god.
So hes neither a theist nor atheist hes a deist. There is not just the two options theist or atheist.
AtheistSid 2 years ago
I would slightly correct your definition of "atheist" to specify a "personal god"- I would actually call someone who lacks a belief in a non-personal god an a-deist. (Minor semantics though). I respectfully disagree that someone can possibly be neither a theist nor an atheist. Either you have a belief in a personal god or you lack that belief. I see no middle ground (that one can hold both or neither belief at once). To echo RenegageSalmon, "Here's to respectful online exchanges."
eveningcoconut76 2 years ago
No, an atheist is someone who lacks a belief in a personal god and is therefore without theism. Therefore technically deists are atheists because they are without theism.
automaticSOM 2 years ago
Thomas Jefferson was most certainly NOT an atheist. He was a deist.
Xenu 2 years ago
Neither was Thomas Paine, who vocally disagreed with atheism. This list is so poorly researched I´m amazed someone had the temerity to put this together without doing any work whatsoever.
Xenu 2 years ago
Neither Jefferson nor Paine believed in a personal god. Therefore, they were both a-theists: they lacked theistic beliefs. That is why they called themselves deists- they lacked a belief in a personal god.
eveningcoconut76 2 years ago
Excellent! Nice choice of score too.
Though Richard Ro(d)gers is an architect, not musician!
liberalmatt 2 years ago
you best check the list again some of the names have been entirely misrepresented..
wjcolby 2 years ago
no Bertrand Russell?
hef31 2 years ago
I should have added him!
eveningcoconut76 2 years ago
"God does not play dice with the universe"- Einstein
johnwill324 2 years ago
unfortunately for you Einstein's God was the universe, he did not attribute it any intelligent or creative properties at all.
types10001 2 years ago 2
The question of scientific determinism gave rise to questions about Einsteins position on theological determinism, and whether or not he believed in God, or in a god. In 1929, Einstein told Rabbi Herbert S. Goldstein "I believe in Spinozas God, who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a God Who concerns Himself with the fate and the doings of mankind."
Chewy427 2 years ago
Einstein was an atheist. His writings on this are clear. It´s quite a stretch to take that quote seriously.
Xenu 2 years ago
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."- Einstein
eveningcoconut76 2 years ago
and as far as the rest go, quote your sources.
diddymuck 2 years ago
Please read the "info" section to the right of the video
eveningcoconut76 2 years ago
who cares what a bunch of show business celebrities think?
diddymuck 2 years ago
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pistolpackinpete43 2 years ago
Faith is absurd. Religion is absurd.
grindhiphop 2 years ago 2
Alfred Brendel... You must add him, and replace the soundtrack with one of his recordings...
He's one of the greatest concert pianists around.
hellomate639 2 years ago
so does this video suggest i should be a non believer because of the "opinions" of some people who are well known? who cares what people think or write on walls. i am intelligent and secure enough with myself to decide for what myself what seems most believable. things that are as true as 1+1=2 are facts everything else is popular opinion and personal opinion.
crashoppe 2 years ago
No, it's not an argument from authority. It is just make people aware of well-known people that may not hold theist beliefs.
eveningcoconut76 2 years ago
I think that one of the ideas you can get from this is to stop some religion activists who always says "There are X hundreds of thousands of peoples who thinks like us, they can't be wrong"... or even give names of well known people to backup their beliefs.
Here, non-believers also got a list of well-known people, to take names from.
MrOsmose 2 years ago
Wikipedia page on Voltaire;
"Like many other key figures during the European Enlightenment, Voltaire considered himself a deist.
He did not believe that absolute faith, based upon any particular or singular religious text or tradition of revelation, was needed to believe in God."
Who was the dumb-ass who made this video?
ejlorge 2 years ago
Wikipedia cannot be trusted.
They are nothing but pro-banker,pro -Israel,pro-Wall Street,DOD,CIA propaganda.
I was banned for telling the truth about who really won the TIME magazine's online poll for man of the year when they named "you".
dieyoubastards 2 years ago
I created the video. An atheist is a person who lacks theist beliefs. Voltaire is such a person. In your post, you state that he was a deist, not a theist. Therefore, he was without theist beliefs... he was and a-theist. If I included someone unjustly I apologize; however, Voltaire lacked theist beliefs.
eveningcoconut76 2 years ago
Exactly, kostasrod.
Google "Quotes by Albert Einstein" and you'll see 30% of them are about God and the Universe.
Frankly, for what it's worth, I find the Atheist argument the most absurd. At least have the wisdom to admit "I don't know for CERTAIN God does not exist".
Even most believers know they don't know. That's why they call it FAITH.
ejlorge 2 years ago
Faith is absurd. Religion is absurd.
We don't believe there is no God of any sort, however we just don't see anything really pointing to that, though our minds could change if something did in fact come up.
That's just it, you assume we're all certain that there is no higher power of any kind which actually only makes up a few of us. Though, I, like the majority of atheists, see a lot of cases against the existence of a God and therefore doubt that one exists.
hellomate639 2 years ago
and albert einstein did belive 100% in god(not in religions)....
kostasrod 2 years ago
yes you are right,for example bratt pitt is a agnostic not an atheist...
kostasrod 2 years ago
This is a list of non-believers of what, exactly??
I know for fact several people in this video are not Atheist, but Agnostic.
One says I KNOW God does not exist, the other says I DON't know for sure one way or another, so I choose not to speculate.
That is a HUGE difference.
And how many of these people just don't believe an a white-bearded Abrahamic (Jewish/Christian/Islamic) God, but believe in a Divine Creator (like Aldous Huxley)?
Yet another intellectually lazy Youtube vid.
ejlorge 2 years ago
Agnostic = nonbeliever.
hellomate639 2 years ago
get that fucking creep marilyn manson out of this video.
volound 2 years ago 2
Get that fucking creep God out of this world.
TheFaithwraith 2 years ago
i am proud of being a agnostic.
i want to leave a window for god, he may just be a force. who knows.
you can't see x-rays, but they exist.
zulfitareen 2 years ago
yes, but you can detect them. also we know it exist thanks to the science behind the spectroscopie(might be translated wrong, the science wich deals with how rainbows are created etc)
Tutterkop 2 years ago
Don't confuse atheists with big thoughts like that you'll just upset them.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
x rays give indication to their existence all the time. the evidence for them is stupendous.
god on the other hand.....
volound 2 years ago
Man i am so proud of being an atheist.
archangel385 2 years ago 3
Bruce Lee was an atheist too
VooDooPkCta 2 years ago
I just checked Wikepedia under religious beliefs of past presidents, and NONE of the presidents mentioned in your video are athiests!!
mlinkenauger 2 years ago
They were deists, a great deal closer to atheism than Christianity. Before Darwin, deism was a pretty common road for skeptics.
RenegadeSalmon 2 years ago 2
Oh come on! I'll accept that my skepticism makes me a weak atheist (being agnostic) based on the a- meaning without, that makes perfect sense to me. But deism!!? Firstly, one thing being closer to another thing as opposed to something else does not make it the same as the thing it is closer too! Secondly if you really want go down this road would it not be more accurate to ask if deism is closer to THEISM/atheism not Christianity/atheism? Could we not in fact classify deism as a form of theism?
ccodling 2 years ago
Both of your points are valid. The reason I jumped to Christianity is because so many anti-atheists are quick to say that this nation was founded with Christian principles. It was founded by men who believed in God only to explain creation. The reason I say that they're closer to atheists than Christians/theists is because I honestly think that if these men had lived in post-Darwin times they would have had no reason to entertain the idea of a higher power.
RenegadeSalmon 2 years ago
Hi RenegadeSalmon, yes I understand the argument that a couple of hundred years ago a deist would be considered similarly to an atheist but I think that mode of thought is outdated and irrelevant today and I doubt there's many modern atheists that would want to align themselves with deism for any reason other than to win an argument! I also think most people now would consider deism as a type theism although I do understand that's not the case historically. Basically I don't think....
ccodling 2 years ago
... grouping the 2 together gives an accurate portrayal of how most atheists view reality.
ccodling 2 years ago
True. I can see how including them in the video is somewhat misleading. Of course, it doesn't explicitly everyone in the video is an atheist. Non-believers is a pretty loose term. "Individuals lacking theistic beliefs" or something like that kicks the video off. Oh well. Here's to respectful online exchanges.
RenegadeSalmon 2 years ago
Fair point about the video title although the video description does take it a bit further and say it's a list of atheists.
I couldn't agree more, here's to respectful online exchanges =)
ccodling 2 years ago
this country was founded from believers of God, the moral standards werent created by men, if that was the case the whole world would be scattered by different moralities. i can hug a person that doesnt speak english and it means love regardless, and i can hug a blind person, even without seeing a hug or kiss before in his life, he feels the love. my friend, jesus is life, not death.
markpaghi 2 years ago
I'm glad you have peace of mind, but I'm afraid I must disagree with the points you made. The men who played key roles in the founding of the US were mostly deists. They believed in a God only to explain a question science couldn't at the time. Also, I think that the world is made up of scattered moralities. The fundamentals are the same, but that's because the fundamentals are necessary for successful communities. Natural selection ensured that the most harmonious communities would survive.
RenegadeSalmon 2 years ago
The country was founded by atheists and deists.
rawisericho 2 years ago
what a stupid and pointless comment
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goodcitymusic 1 year ago
I wouldn't put Brad Pitt on any list you want to show people.
theboombody 2 years ago 2
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engage7632 2 years ago
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XxRissaRiotxX 2 years ago
im not sure i understand the relevance of this video
okidot 2 years ago
The "Amen" was sarcastic BTW, I consider myself a universist.
The "absolute" certainty that some athiests posess flies in the face of what they are speaking out against.
The notion that a human being, any human being, can know with certitude the exact nature of the universe.
Certainty = Arrogance
That goes for both the Jesus Freaks and the Hardline Athiests.
The existence of a supreme being(I'm not talking the Christian God here, I'm talking generally) cannot be proven either way
xibok 2 years ago
The definition of "atheist" that I use in my life is - someone who lacks belief in a personal god. I basically treat the word atheist as I do apolitical or asexual. The "a" simply means- without. Lacking belief in something is not an assertion that the opposite is certain.
eveningcoconut76 2 years ago
I get it, yeah I guess the proper term for what I'm talking about would be "antitheist".
Which is what Christopher Hitchens prefers to thinks of himself as, I just found out.
It's not a term you hear often, but it's useful for distinguishing between those who just don't believe, and those who think that believing is absolutely harmful and dangerous.
I think more people should most definitely be aware of the difference between "atheist" and "antitheist".
peace.
xibok 2 years ago
no. hitchens clearly has stated in precisely all of his debates and on most of his book tours that he is not sure that a god doesnt exist. he said nobody can claim this, but that it is PROBABLE, or at least the default stance until proved. antitheist means that he is against the ideologies and teachings of religions, as opposed to lacking a belief in a deity.
your definitions of antitheism and atheism were wrong, and thanks to eveningcoconut for pointing out one of them. just correcting ;)
sinprelic 2 years ago
Thanks.
constructive, intelligent conversation is what being a freethinking human being is all about. ;)
xibok 2 years ago
Are you certain of this?
RenegadeSalmon 2 years ago
Um... except Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson both believed in a personal God, just not organized religion.
xibok 2 years ago
No, they were deists; and they were hardly that.
iiiiblaze 2 years ago
I agree completely with you, I just worded my last post wrong. But as Deists they both believed in a God who did not intefere in human affairs or any functions in the natural world. And Both of them did not attend any congregation of any kind. So their relationship with the God they believed in was by default, "personal" that is to say not shared. To each his own. Amen.
xibok 2 years ago
Thats some good company right there...
xibok 2 years ago
JESUS CHRIST is the way the truth and the life.
felip77 2 years ago
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LETS ALL PRAY, for these people they really need GOD.
felip77 2 years ago
No they don't
gaara2910 2 years ago 3
=) GOD LOVES YOU.
felip77 2 years ago
Says the Bible
gaara2910 2 years ago 2
lol
hitchenschannel 2 years ago 3