Granparents laughing at her means she's a disapointment and a failure. The ugly man in the backalley is her guilt for killing camilla and true demonic nature.
Diana admitted the both and killed ferself facing the reality.
The ending gives me shivers. The Hollywood lights, with Watts' and Harring's bright faces, just wow.... Betty is so in love with the idea of becoming a star. It's funny, we all have dreams about what we want to be, yet how many of us actually get there... awesome, beautiful film, call it surrealist, dreamlilke, whatever, I think it's so close to how we actually experience life and our emotions, it's more realistic than anything else.
You know that you've seen a great movie when you diss it the first time but it somehow makes you lose sleep at night. At least that's what happened to me. I love this film now.
I'm not sure. Why does anything happen the way it does in Lynch movies? All I can say is that they appear to be somewhat bad after they say goodbye to Betty at the airport. They get in a taxi and laugh, as if they knew Betty's dream was about to be broken. The final scene here is one of realism, where Betty realises everything has turned to shit, her dream is shattered, and the gloating elderlies are there to rub it in.
An incredible film, II've watched it twice in the last 24 hours. This final scene is shattering and it left me in stunned silence. It took me a minute or two to get a grip on myself.
This film is almost elemental in it's power, like it came up right out of the earth or crashing down from the skies.....a film of extraordinary, blazing power.
I will clarify as well. By American dream I don't mean Great Gatsby. What I mean is he used it as a vehicle to present the story. LA..... failed actress...
The bumbling hit man killed Camilla but almost certainly did a bad job, leaving behind evidence. This is why the police are on Diane's trail. Even Diane herself suspects she has hired an incompetent hit man as evidenced in her dream where the hit man kills the guy for the black book but makes a complete mess of it.
I think it bugs "critics" because some of them know that Lynch has themes in his films and they are not just thrown up on celluloid to see what sticks, but even they want to be spoon-fed at times. Lynch's films are meant to have a lasting impression and follow his vision, not what "pundits" want.
Oh and you are David Lynch's right hand man I see..The "American Dream" is too cliche? It is a failure of the "American dream" so to speak.. She dreams what she wants, she awakes to a failed reality...Maybe it is a cliche, but if it was, it has never been portrayed like this..
Well, yes, of course it meant something to Lynch. If it didn't, he wouldn't film it. But what he says, what he always says, is that if it meant something different for you, than you're not wrong either. Because in the abstract, it's more about images and ideas than linear storytelling.
What makes Lynch wonderful to me is he shares his subconscious with us, crazy,dark and wonderful as it is. That takes courage. And then he allows you to make it your own-- he doesn't mock his audience.
People who try to tie the loose ends to this movie together are crazier than Lynch is. In the surreal, you take out what matters to you.
What illustartes the point to me is that everyone seems to have a different favorite scene, whether it's Club Silencio, the Winkies Dream, The Cowboy, or when Adam sees Betty and can't cast her.
Hollywood kills. That's really all you need to know.
And the pervasive sense of dread through the entire movie is unlike any I've ever experienced.
Nice synopsis but you're wrong... While you're right about the general misunderstanding, the point of the movie clearly is a failure of the american dream... "Hollywood kills. That's really all you need to know.
I don't think it's crazy to gather the derivation behind this great piece of writing. I think it makes someone adventurous and inimitable. Would you also conclude the same thought as if we were all trying to understand the anecdote of a book, hm?
1:42 and onwards.. the music score and the cinematography.. so heart-breaking.. all she wanted was happiness and recognition... and she ended up with tarnished dreams.. so so sad, and talk about the music score matching the momen
You can add your own take to the parents, but when discussing it with others try to stick with the facts. They come from a paper bag with a piece of meat in it. They are small but become large and terrifying. The facts are important in Lynch movies, the facts are important in having insights into life.
Well, if you watch much Lynch, you know his likes to revisit themes, leave mysteries unsolved, leave loose ends untied, etc., so going in, if you are a novice of his work, you will determine rather qucikly whether there is any value in his work. That said, Mulholland Dr remains my favorite Lynch vehicle...........it really isn't a close race. I think he intertwined lives in very sad and poignant ways and, while it would have made interesting TV, it made a damn fine film. Now, BluRay please??
If you haven't taken the time yet, you should watch the episode of "Inside The Actor's Studio" where James Lipton talks with Naomi Watts. She has some interesting things to say about this film, especially concerning the masturbation scene.
And, as wierd as this may sound, I actually found "Diane," in her rather unkempt appearance to be more attractive than the perky, prim and proper "Betty."
I agree about the old folks. There is an interesting moment at the beginning of the film where they are driving away from the airport in a limo, enjoying what appears to be a rather sinister laughing moment. What's interesting is the blue van in front of them, which appears again in a fast food parking lot. I have read interpretations which try to link the blue van with the blue box in a rather metaphorical way. Regardless of that, I think the old people are not "physical," but mind candy.
I think that's what makes Lynch so interesting. I have sat with friends for hours discussing one scene. I have been a devoted student of his for many years, but none of his other offerings thrilled me, chilled me and killed me in such an emotional way.
Solidsanner: Thanks for your insight. I always enjoy reading what people have to say about this film. Sometimes it confirms; sometimes it denies; always, it makes me think. And then I watch the film again.
In short, the first part of the film is a dream -- a fantasy that Diane creates to escape the pain of her reality -- a reality which is depicted in the latter half of the film.
This is supported by the first shot of the film, which is from the eyes of a person who is groggily lying down on to a pink pillow to sleep. The shift occurs when Diane (Naomi Watts) wakes up. Notice the color of her sheets and pillow cases are pink. Everything between these two scenes is a dream, in my opinion.
The reality we see in the latter half of the film shows us the life of an actress, Diane, who falls in love with a more prominent actress, Camilla Rhodes (Laura Harring). However, Camilla, probably out of ambition, betrays Diane and becomes engaged with their mutual director (Justin Theroux). Camilla cruelly tortures Diane with this, which drives Diane to pay to have Camilla killed.
The dream starts after Diane has paid the hitman, who says he will leave a blue key on her coffee table to signify that the deed is done. In her dream, Diane is a sweet, likable, and talented actress named Betty, a name Diane takes from a pretty, jovial waitress. Camilla, in the dream, is turned into someone who depends on and trusts Diane's character, Betty, contrary to the real-life Camilla.
Other parallels occur in the dream which reflect Diane's reality by creating an alternate fantasy. For example, the director in the dream loses control over his film and is cheated on by his wife; the Camilla Rhodes in the dream does not earn her role with talent, but is simply given to her; and Betty rejects her ambitions in favor of being with and helping Rita -- a sacrifice Diane wishes Camilla had made for her in reality.
I must totally agree with you. While I didn't see it at the theater, after my first watching in my den, I was a complete mess. Still have a hard time revisiting it, due to all of the tragedy.
Honestly, you can search online and read a thousand different interpretations of the film and each one will have a different spin on just who the old folks are meant to be. I have read everything from the judges at the jitterbug contest to her parents or grandparents. Lynch, of course, has always refused to say, which is, I think, the poet's way of saying "it is whatever you think it is."
I guess I'll just have to watch it again and again and again..........
The film never actually divulges the nature of Diane's relationship with the old couple, but looking at the last scene, you can infer that they are people she is afraid to disappoint, such as grandparents, or just charitable friends; hence, they appear in the final scene to be agents of her conscience, and it's possibly partly the knowledge that they would morally disapprove of what she did that drives her to kill herself.
Mind rape is an outstanding way to describe it. I studied film in college, but David Lynch gave me an eternal inferiority complex, so I became a garbageman.
The most terrific offering in what has become expected by "Lynchians" worldwide.
Aw, Lynch. A perfect example of "You either Love him, or ya hate him" scenario. I love his work. Blue Velvet, The Elephant Man, Wild at Heart, Eraserhead and this. I wish he would do more. We need you, David!
Mulholland Drive actually tells a very concrete story. Probably the most concrete of any of these sort of Lynch dream films. The key to understanding it is watching where the shift occurs, and looking back at the first shot of the film.
From a Hindu/Buddhist perspective, the Divine Energy enjoys escapism in the form of playing out our lives. Just as we sometimes seek escapism in disturbing films, so the Divine Energy sometimes experiences extreme dislocation. This film is about the Divine Energy coming out of a life, and remembering it was only a dream and everything is really alright.
agreed..this was a load of bullshit, pretty stupid way to end a movie...he did it just to fuck up people & his fans..and..stop it lynch..please..stop those flashy lights with closeups on your movies....i get it...but its getting a little bit cheesy....ejje..
There is no plot to this movie. Even Lynch denies it, and it's not just because he's being cryptic about it. There is no plot. He's a strange dude who made strange movies, that's it. It made him a millionaire because he's brilliant at it. I love all his flicks, but I realize they're not made to explore some deeper meaning. I laugh at all these people who think they're enlightened and can see the plot. You can see anything you want in a movie like this. BTW, erasurehead is 10 times weirder
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totally agree...cool movies..but i think he plays with his hardcore fans & philosophers..who think there is some kind meaning in movies like this one..i see little reflections of human life on the surface..but nothing more..is he an aesthetic like antonioni perhaps?
you mean italian director michaelangelo antonioni? i guess you're right. i also think that david lynch was an american version of antonioni. they both have many things in common. but,strangely,lynch never admits that he was inspired by antonioni's work. He just had said that ingmar bergman was his "spiritual mentor".
Anyway, i can see the resemblence between mulholland drive and blow up (one of antonioni's greatest surreal masterpiece) especially,at the mystery narrative storyline part..
There is a definite plot to this movie. It takes some thought and analysis but it can be figured out. If you're lazy there are explanations online. Lynch has denied any meaning to the movie because explaining what it's about would take all the magic out of it.
Whatever the "real story" of the film is, david lynch succeeds it putting together all the scenes in a way that sucks you into the plot. He fools you into thinking there's a clean cut way that everything will be explained away in the end when the true draw of the piece is the fact that we all kept hanging around to see what happens next. Maybe none of it makes sense... at all.... but we all stayed glued to the screen for 2 hours of "non-sense." Not too many movies do that anymore
There is no actual interpretation, david lynch has said this himself. The dream theory is a good one but too logical for a surreal film... I never understood what that strange creature was though...
I agree! Most horror/thriller actress are only "scream", but Naomi really, really screamed from the top of her lung and she made us feel her fright. :D
To me, the wierdest scene to understand is the scene at "club silencio." (In the very end of her dream.) My guess is the scene represents her dream, as, for an instance, the singer, who visually sings, but doesnt. It kind of means that everything has happened, and also in a certian way explains the change of names in the second part more deeply. Like the words said are important, and whoever says the words determines what the outcome, or the "history" will be.
Look at that powerful direction in this final scene. I love how the old couple slowly crawl under the doorway...insanely creepy and weird. And the way the smoke rises up and clouds around Betty/Diane as she commits suicide...haunting...and "SILENCIO" by that dude in the blue wig. Absolutely brilliant ending!
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Anyone that pretends this movie was a masterpeice is an idiot. It started as footage for a TV show that none of the network would buy so Lynch had to go back and film so nude scenes and such to try and make it into a movie. That is why it is a jumbled mess with no point, not because of brillant planning. He simply packaged the shot scenes so he could sell them instead of letting them go to waste.
The entire movie went over your head. It tells a completely logical, coherent and immaculately crafted story of dream imagery. A woman's subconscious constructing the things she could never obtain in her waking life. It makes perfect sense if you pay attention, and fit all the pieces together.
for those of you who think you understand this movie (Because not even lynch himself can offer a solid explanation for it), can you tell me the significance of the cowboy and the homeless bum/monster?
This is one of my personal top 5 movies of all time! From what I've read and seen, the cowboy is seen for a fleeting second in the "real life" scene of Diane at the dinner party, and she incorporates that into her dream. The bum/monster represents hate/jealousy/and guilt over Diane facilitating Camilla's murder. There are a million other explanations/theories that can be found online and at IMDB.
ah, okay thanks. Personally, even with understanding all of the symbolism and deep thought on Diane, and the movie industry, I really did not enjoy it that much.
but its good to see people showing so much enthusiasm over it. To each his own.
This movie has sooo many different levels. When I first saw it I didn't really understand it, but I knew that it commanded respect. My jaw literally dropped to the floor at the audition scene. This is the film that made Naomi Watts a star literally overnight. Every visual, color, song, character, every word in every piece of dialogue is vitally important to understand Lynch's vision. You should see all of his films!
That is not correct: the key appears in the earlier scenes in the film and is a royal blue. The box is blue when it appears in the scene after "Club Silencio".
The significance of the blue key is linked to the second part of the film where the hitman gives Diane a blue key to confirm that he has completed his job.
The blue key (an obvious metaphor) is the key to her remorse, grief and guilt. The box is also a metaphor for her containment of those emotions. Once the box is opened ......
I saw this movie and I felt sympathy on the ending even though confused at the same time... esp. with Betty's opposite side of her life persona as Diane.. which made me to think if that's how the Depressing Diane becomes the Brightful Betty after or before her life?? i'm still curious to know what it is... o.O
(She probably understands that she's going to pay a price for it, too; her neighbor even tells her that "Those detectives were here again.")She starts reflecting on how she came to be in this position, from Camilla's coolness to her flirtations with Adam to the unforgivable humiliations at the party.
The monster, who hides behind the diner where Diane contracted the killing, seems to be the demon Diane metaphorically begins dealing with when she decides to have her girlfriend knocked off. In the end we see he's just a homeless man, a reminder of the grimy Hollywood Diane came to know after her jitterbug-queen optimism got beaten out of her.And,OK -- he's also the keeper of the box,the symbol of Camilla's death and perhaps reality contained(sort of like a movie).
Well,it seems that Diane had her girlfriend murdered.Then, in a masturbatory fantasy cum fever dream in the moments before she commits suicide, she reimagines her ruined career and failed relationship with the woman she loves.
The dream begins with Camilla/Rita miraculously escaping the hit Diane had taken out on her.
From there,Diane,a product of Hollywood, imagines the story in cinematic fashion:She sees herself as the naive wannabe starlet Betty,who succeeds on sheer talent and solves whatever problems are thrown her way.She even gets the girl!
Thematically,Lynch seems to be working out a number of things:the enticing but empty imagery of the movie screen; the accompanying imagery that is used as stardust to cover up the unpleasantries of the movie-making process;the imagery that the ambitious use to reimagine and remake themselves;and the imagery and imagination actors put to work to create their characters.
Diane and Betty are the same person.Some viewers see that it's the same person right away; others are flummoxed because they just seem different. If you look closely, you see they're the same actress. The actress, Naomi Watts, delivers a technically dazzling performance. It's difficult to believe that chipper Betty and the ground-down Diane are the same woman, but they are.
Wow! Thanks for the extended reply man. Yeah thats what I thought too. Ive heard a lot of people say there is no cohesion in the film, how bullshit is that?
As a reader points out in a letter to the editor, Lynch even slips in a wry joke."It's weird to be calling myself," Rita says as the pair call Diane. "Hi, it's me," Diane says immediately afterward, on her answering machine.
"So it was all just a dream." Is that the cliché you're contending Lynch is giving us?
Well, it's a little more complex than that. It certainly does explain the exaggerated gestures, heightened emotions and odd plot turns in the first part of the movie. Seen as dream motions, Betty's hokey "I'm goink to be a stah, darlink" schtick makes more sense.
OK, so what about the box?Diane's fantasy is a number of things. It's obviously a dream of a world in which her relationship with Camilla was different -- a place where Camilla loves her and is dependent on her. But it's also a requiem for her lost career, and arguably an elegy to a lost Hollywood as well. But Lynch seems rather ambivalent about the lost Hollywood, which by analogy undermines Diane's dream vision,too.
Lynch may be telling us that this is the dream we all share when we watch Hollywood movies, and reminding us at the same time that it is a dream -- that it is wishful, and says a lot about the dreamer. The movie's most problematic conceit is Diane's hallucination of the mad powers behind the scenes in Hollywood. Are those imaginings the incoherent ones of a cockeyed youngster turned sour by failure?Or the unvarnished truth of someone who'd seen it happen, up close and personal?
Indeed, Diane herself is someone who deals with personal rejection by hiring an assassin. Lynch does a great job intertwining the dicier sides of Diane's character with a wider critique of Hollywood as a business and the complex relationship between Hollywood as dream factory and its audience. It's possible Lynch sees consumers of popular Hollywood fare as unable to work out their grievances in their real lives,so they resort to fantasies of revenge.
It's apparently the present, but the dream part of the film is an eras-spanning romanticized netherworld of ivied Hollywood apartment buildings, aging stars and picture-perfect period re-creations on busy sound stages. (In "Blue Velvet," too, Lynch pulled off the trick of creating a modern setting that seemed somehow to have previous decades still hanging heavily in the air.) The women ride around in cabs a lot, an anachronistic touch.
But the thuggish hit men and crack-addled hookers wandering around are up to the minute. Overall it's typical of the fine line Lynch walks between the fantastic and the real,all set against a malevolently filmed skyline, harsh parking lots and the endless expanse of light that is L.A. from the hills at night.
Allow me. The box is the enigma. And they (the girls) have the key, the answer, though they don´t know yet the question. When they go to the silencio club they discover nothing is what it seems. So they discover the question. That´s to say: they discover they are living in a fantasy. Therefore the shock while watching. Therefore the "awakening", or rather, the destruction of the dream by sheer reality.
Once it's unlocked, Diane has to return to the physical world and accept that she's done an inhuman thing.
Readers see a lot more in the box: Several found an amusing -- and hard to argue with -- sexual connotation. (Maybe that's why the hitman laughs when Diane asks what the key opens.) Others make a case that it's a television. The multiplicity of meanings fits in well with the film's texture.
The blue key is supposed to mean Camilla's dead; but we see her alive after that.
After the fairly straightforward narrative of the film's first two-thirds, the last part of the movie is a staccato sequence of flashbacks. Diane sees the key, and understands that the deed is done.
Diane sees that she's been reduced to an object of pity and contempt by even someone like Coco.That takes her into the downward spiral that produces the hallucinogenic first part of the movie and then her decision to shoot herself.
Let's talk about the 50 grand. Diane gives it to the hit man; why is Rita carrying it?
This is a good example of Lynch's dream logic. Diane fetishizes it, and it turns up in an odd place in the dream. Same with the mysterious blue key. The hit man says he'll leave a normal blue key in her apartment when the deed is done. This transmogrifies in her fantasy into that futuristic one.
Both are also necessary to Diane's dream mélange of film clichés, particularly noir film clichés (and the director's deconstruction of the genre as well: "A dame appears out of nowhere with 50 grand in her purse and a mysterious key.")
Watch the movie carefully and you see that many characters and props in the last third of the film are picked up in Diane's mind and repurposed for the dream: The hit man's black book; her grouchy neighbor; the waitress at the diner; the director's mom; the director who didn't give her the movie part;the woman Camilla kisses at the party; the cowboy; even her aunt.
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eanvay 1 year ago
I have to say the two old people looking like they're having the time of their lives crack me up a bit. I wonder how the actors felt.
Wellworm 2 years ago 2
lol i never thought about that, they probably had fun.
WWAAK 2 years ago
Granparents laughing at her means she's a disapointment and a failure. The ugly man in the backalley is her guilt for killing camilla and true demonic nature.
Diana admitted the both and killed ferself facing the reality.
Zynche 2 years ago
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Most OVERRATED movie EVER!
Ubik83 2 years ago
Most STUPID comment EVER!
DarthSmee 2 years ago 4
overrated? are u nuts or what?
nejev 2 years ago
that blue-haired woman must be the "fate" or some shit like that
KingOrgasmusTwo 2 years ago
she's the proof that camilla is dead
Zynche 2 years ago
The ending gives me shivers. The Hollywood lights, with Watts' and Harring's bright faces, just wow.... Betty is so in love with the idea of becoming a star. It's funny, we all have dreams about what we want to be, yet how many of us actually get there... awesome, beautiful film, call it surrealist, dreamlilke, whatever, I think it's so close to how we actually experience life and our emotions, it's more realistic than anything else.
SingHouse 2 years ago
You know that you've seen a great movie when you diss it the first time but it somehow makes you lose sleep at night. At least that's what happened to me. I love this film now.
WWAAK 2 years ago 3
@WWAAK me too. I've seen this about 5 times, gets more intense every time. I cried like a baby last time I watched it.
SingHouse 2 years ago
So beautiful
usbeko 2 years ago
who are these 2 old people???
OriginalSliz 2 years ago
@OriginalSliz I think her parents, they represent her conscience
wagram86 2 years ago
I agree XD!
usbeko 2 years ago
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usbeko 2 years ago
@OriginalSliz they appear early on in the movie when Betty arrives at LAX. We understand they sat together on the plane.
SingHouse 2 years ago
but why do they appear at the end of the movie?
OriginalSliz 2 years ago
I'm not sure. Why does anything happen the way it does in Lynch movies? All I can say is that they appear to be somewhat bad after they say goodbye to Betty at the airport. They get in a taxi and laugh, as if they knew Betty's dream was about to be broken. The final scene here is one of realism, where Betty realises everything has turned to shit, her dream is shattered, and the gloating elderlies are there to rub it in.
SingHouse 2 years ago
An incredible film, II've watched it twice in the last 24 hours. This final scene is shattering and it left me in stunned silence. It took me a minute or two to get a grip on myself.
This film is almost elemental in it's power, like it came up right out of the earth or crashing down from the skies.....a film of extraordinary, blazing power.
David Lynch's masterpiece, indeed.....!!
DrVonChilla 2 years ago 3
I will clarify as well. By American dream I don't mean Great Gatsby. What I mean is he used it as a vehicle to present the story. LA..... failed actress...
headz51230 2 years ago
What I want to know is how that bumbling hit man killed Carmilla.
bunnspecial 2 years ago
The bumbling hit man killed Camilla but almost certainly did a bad job, leaving behind evidence. This is why the police are on Diane's trail. Even Diane herself suspects she has hired an incompetent hit man as evidenced in her dream where the hit man kills the guy for the black book but makes a complete mess of it.
Burrisant 2 years ago 2
@tyriless
Exactly.
I think it bugs "critics" because some of them know that Lynch has themes in his films and they are not just thrown up on celluloid to see what sticks, but even they want to be spoon-fed at times. Lynch's films are meant to have a lasting impression and follow his vision, not what "pundits" want.
Wytchfinde 2 years ago
...This is the girl...
texasB666 2 years ago
You see then..Lynch uses the "American dream" literally....
headz51230 2 years ago
Silencio ...
chris013400 2 years ago 2
what the fuck is going on with this movie, i just dont get what this movie is about can anyone elaborate.
redcavalie 2 years ago
did you watch the movie? or just the clip? lol just kidding
hardlyknown79 2 years ago
no i watched the movie Twice , once by my self and the second time with my sister, so I could see if she had any idea what it was about lol
redcavalie 2 years ago
I originally replied below but rest assured David Lynch is not lying to you......
headz51230 2 years ago
Oh and you are David Lynch's right hand man I see..The "American Dream" is too cliche? It is a failure of the "American dream" so to speak.. She dreams what she wants, she awakes to a failed reality...Maybe it is a cliche, but if it was, it has never been portrayed like this..
headz51230 2 years ago
Well, yes, of course it meant something to Lynch. If it didn't, he wouldn't film it. But what he says, what he always says, is that if it meant something different for you, than you're not wrong either. Because in the abstract, it's more about images and ideas than linear storytelling.
What makes Lynch wonderful to me is he shares his subconscious with us, crazy,dark and wonderful as it is. That takes courage. And then he allows you to make it your own-- he doesn't mock his audience.
Danimal14222 2 years ago 2
People who try to tie the loose ends to this movie together are crazier than Lynch is. In the surreal, you take out what matters to you.
What illustartes the point to me is that everyone seems to have a different favorite scene, whether it's Club Silencio, the Winkies Dream, The Cowboy, or when Adam sees Betty and can't cast her.
Hollywood kills. That's really all you need to know.
And the pervasive sense of dread through the entire movie is unlike any I've ever experienced.
Danimal14222 2 years ago 2
Nice synopsis but you're wrong... While you're right about the general misunderstanding, the point of the movie clearly is a failure of the american dream... "Hollywood kills. That's really all you need to know.
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headz51230 2 years ago
I don't think it's crazy to gather the derivation behind this great piece of writing. I think it makes someone adventurous and inimitable. Would you also conclude the same thought as if we were all trying to understand the anecdote of a book, hm?
Jirkenz131 2 years ago
I meant to thumb you down, by the way.
Jirkenz131 2 years ago
No, i don't think it's crazy...I've tried to do the same thing myself.
it's part of the human instinct; the ordered human mind tries to make sense of things that are incomprehensible.
What I'm saying is that there is no "right" answer to the movie just by the number of theories there are about what it is.
What it is is a fantastic, hypnotic movie first and foremost.
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headz51230 2 years ago
1:42 and onwards.. the music score and the cinematography.. so heart-breaking.. all she wanted was happiness and recognition... and she ended up with tarnished dreams.. so so sad, and talk about the music score matching the momen
alic88 2 years ago
Just look how happy they were supposed to be.. THE AMERICAN DREAM RIGHT??
headz51230 2 years ago
You can add your own take to the parents, but when discussing it with others try to stick with the facts. They come from a paper bag with a piece of meat in it. They are small but become large and terrifying. The facts are important in Lynch movies, the facts are important in having insights into life.
Silvertrine 2 years ago
Lynch movies disturb me in ways no other movies do...
the bum in Mulholland Drive...
the "man in the planet" in Eraserhead...
Killer Bob from Twin Peaks...
the man in black from Lost Highway...
all of 'em disturbing as hell
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headz51230 2 years ago
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masterpiece? this whole movie is creepy and weird. and uh, what's with the rabid old people?
WWEinvadesTNA8 2 years ago
there role is of her grandparents and also work in as her conscience of killing her lover . They are attacking her until she can only kill herself.
liquidbear 2 years ago
they are tormenting her thoughts as a reminder of a life that she wants but will never have.
leaguecity 2 years ago
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It's a fucking movie. Stop using the word "film".
Leadwerks 2 years ago
lol but don't get angry. Are you a Castigliani brother? =S
usbeko 2 years ago
haha! I'm sorry, that's funny
leaguecity 2 years ago
Funniest comment ever.
CinemaZebra 2 years ago
Well, if you watch much Lynch, you know his likes to revisit themes, leave mysteries unsolved, leave loose ends untied, etc., so going in, if you are a novice of his work, you will determine rather qucikly whether there is any value in his work. That said, Mulholland Dr remains my favorite Lynch vehicle...........it really isn't a close race. I think he intertwined lives in very sad and poignant ways and, while it would have made interesting TV, it made a damn fine film. Now, BluRay please??
route1box43 2 years ago 2
One of the most chilling, beautiful films ever made for sure.
ginkgonk122 2 years ago 2
This end is so beautiful. Sad and lovely at the same time. It´s a poem.
usbeko 2 years ago 4
If you haven't taken the time yet, you should watch the episode of "Inside The Actor's Studio" where James Lipton talks with Naomi Watts. She has some interesting things to say about this film, especially concerning the masturbation scene.
route1box43 2 years ago
And, as wierd as this may sound, I actually found "Diane," in her rather unkempt appearance to be more attractive than the perky, prim and proper "Betty."
route1box43 2 years ago
And I suppose we could write a book about all the "hidden" elements that revolve around "Club Silencio."
Whoops. I guess I just opened another can of worms.
route1box43 2 years ago
I agree about the old folks. There is an interesting moment at the beginning of the film where they are driving away from the airport in a limo, enjoying what appears to be a rather sinister laughing moment. What's interesting is the blue van in front of them, which appears again in a fast food parking lot. I have read interpretations which try to link the blue van with the blue box in a rather metaphorical way. Regardless of that, I think the old people are not "physical," but mind candy.
route1box43 2 years ago
I never want to see that old couple out side of the film XD!
usbeko 2 years ago 6
And I would be remiss not to mention the monumental contribution Angelo Badalamenti's musical score ALWAYS means to this and other Lynch films.
route1box43 2 years ago
I think that's what makes Lynch so interesting. I have sat with friends for hours discussing one scene. I have been a devoted student of his for many years, but none of his other offerings thrilled me, chilled me and killed me in such an emotional way.
Solidsanner: Thanks for your insight. I always enjoy reading what people have to say about this film. Sometimes it confirms; sometimes it denies; always, it makes me think. And then I watch the film again.
route1box43 2 years ago
In short, the first part of the film is a dream -- a fantasy that Diane creates to escape the pain of her reality -- a reality which is depicted in the latter half of the film.
This is supported by the first shot of the film, which is from the eyes of a person who is groggily lying down on to a pink pillow to sleep. The shift occurs when Diane (Naomi Watts) wakes up. Notice the color of her sheets and pillow cases are pink. Everything between these two scenes is a dream, in my opinion.
solidsanner 2 years ago
The reality we see in the latter half of the film shows us the life of an actress, Diane, who falls in love with a more prominent actress, Camilla Rhodes (Laura Harring). However, Camilla, probably out of ambition, betrays Diane and becomes engaged with their mutual director (Justin Theroux). Camilla cruelly tortures Diane with this, which drives Diane to pay to have Camilla killed.
solidsanner 2 years ago
The dream starts after Diane has paid the hitman, who says he will leave a blue key on her coffee table to signify that the deed is done. In her dream, Diane is a sweet, likable, and talented actress named Betty, a name Diane takes from a pretty, jovial waitress. Camilla, in the dream, is turned into someone who depends on and trusts Diane's character, Betty, contrary to the real-life Camilla.
solidsanner 2 years ago
Other parallels occur in the dream which reflect Diane's reality by creating an alternate fantasy. For example, the director in the dream loses control over his film and is cheated on by his wife; the Camilla Rhodes in the dream does not earn her role with talent, but is simply given to her; and Betty rejects her ambitions in favor of being with and helping Rita -- a sacrifice Diane wishes Camilla had made for her in reality.
solidsanner 2 years ago
I do know this: I never, in 50 years of film addiction, saw a more exhausted audience exit a theatre.
Never.
route1box43 2 years ago
I must totally agree with you. While I didn't see it at the theater, after my first watching in my den, I was a complete mess. Still have a hard time revisiting it, due to all of the tragedy.
flipwiggins 2 years ago
I realize I danced around the question, but that's only because I'm not sure I believe what I believed yesterday........if you can believe that.
route1box43 2 years ago
Honestly, you can search online and read a thousand different interpretations of the film and each one will have a different spin on just who the old folks are meant to be. I have read everything from the judges at the jitterbug contest to her parents or grandparents. Lynch, of course, has always refused to say, which is, I think, the poet's way of saying "it is whatever you think it is."
I guess I'll just have to watch it again and again and again..........
route1box43 2 years ago
Can someone remind me who the old people are supposed to be?
OliBN1 2 years ago
The film never actually divulges the nature of Diane's relationship with the old couple, but looking at the last scene, you can infer that they are people she is afraid to disappoint, such as grandparents, or just charitable friends; hence, they appear in the final scene to be agents of her conscience, and it's possibly partly the knowledge that they would morally disapprove of what she did that drives her to kill herself.
That's just my interpretation.
solidsanner 2 years ago
The whole role of the elderly couple seemed very difficult to piece together at first.
But then some time later, I met a pair who actually reminded me of them.
It sort of had me going into flashbacks of bad acid trips I had where I was experiencing the influence of the Ronald and Nancy Reagan demon.
Then somehow it all seemed to fit together in a very vague, and hard to explain way.
angelrocket88 2 years ago
Mind rape is an outstanding way to describe it. I studied film in college, but David Lynch gave me an eternal inferiority complex, so I became a garbageman.
The most terrific offering in what has become expected by "Lynchians" worldwide.
route1box43 2 years ago
In a town like twin peaks no one is innocent !!!
usbeko 2 years ago
The emotional impact of those final shots of Diane/Betty is just colossal. The music nearly brings me to tears.
Barqu3ntine 2 years ago 2
i feel just the same as Soundstage8......both movies made my mind go beyond the infinite
PIKlynch 2 years ago
gives me goosebumps. The acting, the sounds, everything in this movie and especially this scene
liveforever1227 2 years ago
There have only been two movies I've ever seen which has completely raped my mind. They are 2001: A Space Odyssey and Mulholland Dr.
Soundstage8 2 years ago 3
This is, without a doubt one of the most spine chilling scenes in cinema.
Full credit to Naomi, you can see the fear in her.
But this movie belongs to David Lynch.
ginkgonk122 2 years ago 4
A poet and a painter. He never can let go of his favourite symbols. Flickering lights. Angels. Curtains.
peterikarlstad 2 years ago 2
at 1:15, you can get a quick glimpse of the blue box
david lynch is a fucking cinematic genius
sexinatoybox 2 years ago 2
Jesus old people screaming is fucking terrifying.
mashakos 2 years ago 3
such a sad but brilliant film
Adventurestud 2 years ago 2
Silencio!
passion2muse 2 years ago 6
Amazing! Este final es sublime...
usbeko 2 years ago
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donnie10855 2 years ago
Aw, Lynch. A perfect example of "You either Love him, or ya hate him" scenario. I love his work. Blue Velvet, The Elephant Man, Wild at Heart, Eraserhead and this. I wish he would do more. We need you, David!
QuatermassMan 2 years ago
Very heavy film. I think it the true thriller. The ending quite natural, but unpredictable. May be this film about broken Hollywood dream?
JoeLolikon 2 years ago 3
The movie is pure emotion like music or a dream. And it beckons to me.
FulciLives69 2 years ago
fuck!!!!!
It must be horrible to be on her shoes
lullabyou 2 years ago 2
For those who don't get Mulholland Drive, go back to watching the Ernest movies. They make perfect sense. There now, everything's better.
ELBSeattle 2 years ago 4
Also, the most famous quote from Gilda will help you understand it a bit more too...
"They go to sleep with Gilda. They wake up with me."
xandirwasmylover 2 years ago
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This movie is a mind fuck, and not one that is really all that worth figuring out.
ljgorman 2 years ago
Mulholland Drive actually tells a very concrete story. Probably the most concrete of any of these sort of Lynch dream films. The key to understanding it is watching where the shift occurs, and looking back at the first shot of the film.
solidsanner 2 years ago 5
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Epic fail
denis480 2 years ago
This movie is a masterpiece, amazing.
LIVE4LA 2 years ago 10
From a Hindu/Buddhist perspective, the Divine Energy enjoys escapism in the form of playing out our lives. Just as we sometimes seek escapism in disturbing films, so the Divine Energy sometimes experiences extreme dislocation. This film is about the Divine Energy coming out of a life, and remembering it was only a dream and everything is really alright.
Bkeela 2 years ago 3
Beautiful interpretation
vivaforever09 2 years ago
wtf? lol!
CarteBlancheNetwork 2 years ago
... ... ... silencio
FatMat426 2 years ago 6
Mulholland Dr. is one of the most amazing films I've ever seen.
ginkgonk122 2 years ago 14
did anyone else just find this the saddest scene ever? I cried and the entire film just fell into place... so so sad
lycrahoofie 2 years ago 12
Me too!!
I totally agree with you!
I watched this film so many times and i'm moved again..........
pmnd6877 2 years ago
she opened the blue box..
ScarletDavis 2 years ago
Si fuese actriz me gustaria trabajar con Lynch! el mejor de todos!
Melina121 2 years ago
ending
nietzsche71 2 years ago 2
this is a beautiful eanding
nietzsche71 2 years ago
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Loved Eraserhead, thought this was a load of bollocks. I mean, what a shit ending.
conorpacman 2 years ago
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agreed..this was a load of bullshit, pretty stupid way to end a movie...he did it just to fuck up people & his fans..and..stop it lynch..please..stop those flashy lights with closeups on your movies....i get it...but its getting a little bit cheesy....ejje..
godardtruffaut 2 years ago
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guns dont make THAT much smokeee....
DirtyJerzProductions 2 years ago
Ich fand den Film i.wie gut, aber ich check bis heute nicht, um was es genau geht. Ich hab den Film echt nicht kapiert...
xXNarcissaMalfoyXx 2 years ago
this is one of the best movies I have ever seen
farfalla188 2 years ago 11
divid lynch movies are works of art
nietzsche71 2 years ago 5
If you think Lynch's films arent meant to explore a deeper meaning then you sir are kind of a jackass.
CocoaShunter 2 years ago 7
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There is no plot to this movie. Even Lynch denies it, and it's not just because he's being cryptic about it. There is no plot. He's a strange dude who made strange movies, that's it. It made him a millionaire because he's brilliant at it. I love all his flicks, but I realize they're not made to explore some deeper meaning. I laugh at all these people who think they're enlightened and can see the plot. You can see anything you want in a movie like this. BTW, erasurehead is 10 times weirder
falconflyer34 2 years ago
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totally agree...cool movies..but i think he plays with his hardcore fans & philosophers..who think there is some kind meaning in movies like this one..i see little reflections of human life on the surface..but nothing more..is he an aesthetic like antonioni perhaps?
godardtruffaut 2 years ago
you mean italian director michaelangelo antonioni? i guess you're right. i also think that david lynch was an american version of antonioni. they both have many things in common. but,strangely,lynch never admits that he was inspired by antonioni's work. He just had said that ingmar bergman was his "spiritual mentor".
Anyway, i can see the resemblence between mulholland drive and blow up (one of antonioni's greatest surreal masterpiece) especially,at the mystery narrative storyline part..
calciumkid85 2 years ago
lynch mentions a lot fellini's work...lynch said that the whole 8 1/2 was a tour the force...very cool!
godardtruffaut 2 years ago
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conorpacman 2 years ago
i prefer the theories where she doesn't actually kill herself :(
scullyy 2 years ago
There is a definite plot to this movie. It takes some thought and analysis but it can be figured out. If you're lazy there are explanations online. Lynch has denied any meaning to the movie because explaining what it's about would take all the magic out of it.
Also there are clues in the booklet for the DVD.
HometownWolves 2 years ago 4
I think the creature behind Winky's was supposed to be Diane's soul.
AngelofMusic04 2 years ago
Whatever the "real story" of the film is, david lynch succeeds it putting together all the scenes in a way that sucks you into the plot. He fools you into thinking there's a clean cut way that everything will be explained away in the end when the true draw of the piece is the fact that we all kept hanging around to see what happens next. Maybe none of it makes sense... at all.... but we all stayed glued to the screen for 2 hours of "non-sense." Not too many movies do that anymore
Quixotic1018 2 years ago
There is no actual interpretation, david lynch has said this himself. The dream theory is a good one but too logical for a surreal film... I never understood what that strange creature was though...
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usbeko 2 years ago
naomi watts has the greatest scream ever best actress of her time too
Joefonzgoldenarms 2 years ago 6
I agree! Most horror/thriller actress are only "scream", but Naomi really, really screamed from the top of her lung and she made us feel her fright. :D
Nyanyinyah 2 years ago 9
yea even without the volume that scene was truly what nightmares are made of
Joefonzgoldenarms 2 years ago
To me, the wierdest scene to understand is the scene at "club silencio." (In the very end of her dream.) My guess is the scene represents her dream, as, for an instance, the singer, who visually sings, but doesnt. It kind of means that everything has happened, and also in a certian way explains the change of names in the second part more deeply. Like the words said are important, and whoever says the words determines what the outcome, or the "history" will be.
Or is it just nonsense?
coaster1000 2 years ago 2
i think the ture horror film just like that...
simmytam 2 years ago
Look at that powerful direction in this final scene. I love how the old couple slowly crawl under the doorway...insanely creepy and weird. And the way the smoke rises up and clouds around Betty/Diane as she commits suicide...haunting...and "SILENCIO" by that dude in the blue wig. Absolutely brilliant ending!
sillywillyisgoodforu 3 years ago 2
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Anyone that pretends this movie was a masterpeice is an idiot. It started as footage for a TV show that none of the network would buy so Lynch had to go back and film so nude scenes and such to try and make it into a movie. That is why it is a jumbled mess with no point, not because of brillant planning. He simply packaged the shot scenes so he could sell them instead of letting them go to waste.
Cleaner44 3 years ago
you are so stupid, aff...
celoangelo 3 years ago
The entire movie went over your head. It tells a completely logical, coherent and immaculately crafted story of dream imagery. A woman's subconscious constructing the things she could never obtain in her waking life. It makes perfect sense if you pay attention, and fit all the pieces together.
This movie > You.
PresidentBagel 3 years ago 4
In a film like this one, are there really spoilers?
bbsee1 3 years ago 3
for those of you who think you understand this movie (Because not even lynch himself can offer a solid explanation for it), can you tell me the significance of the cowboy and the homeless bum/monster?
d2eux 3 years ago
This is one of my personal top 5 movies of all time! From what I've read and seen, the cowboy is seen for a fleeting second in the "real life" scene of Diane at the dinner party, and she incorporates that into her dream. The bum/monster represents hate/jealousy/and guilt over Diane facilitating Camilla's murder. There are a million other explanations/theories that can be found online and at IMDB.
navymuret 3 years ago
ah, okay thanks. Personally, even with understanding all of the symbolism and deep thought on Diane, and the movie industry, I really did not enjoy it that much.
but its good to see people showing so much enthusiasm over it. To each his own.
d2eux 3 years ago
This movie has sooo many different levels. When I first saw it I didn't really understand it, but I knew that it commanded respect. My jaw literally dropped to the floor at the audition scene. This is the film that made Naomi Watts a star literally overnight. Every visual, color, song, character, every word in every piece of dialogue is vitally important to understand Lynch's vision. You should see all of his films!
navymuret 3 years ago
thats great that people admire it, but I dont think a film should automatically warrant respect, even if it looks flashy. Thats just my view.
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usbeko 3 years ago
That is not correct: the key appears in the earlier scenes in the film and is a royal blue. The box is blue when it appears in the scene after "Club Silencio".
The significance of the blue key is linked to the second part of the film where the hitman gives Diane a blue key to confirm that he has completed his job.
The blue key (an obvious metaphor) is the key to her remorse, grief and guilt. The box is also a metaphor for her containment of those emotions. Once the box is opened ......
greasegunx 3 years ago
I saw this movie and I felt sympathy on the ending even though confused at the same time... esp. with Betty's opposite side of her life persona as Diane.. which made me to think if that's how the Depressing Diane becomes the Brightful Betty after or before her life?? i'm still curious to know what it is... o.O
aquaxcamus 3 years ago
I wonder if there are any parallels to the Simpsons in this scene.
cydelon 3 years ago
Is she high?
ValkyrieMoon 3 years ago
No
Just scared out of her mind, and subsequently related by the grace of God.
cydelon 3 years ago 2
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Lolz is she high or incredibly stupid?
Kingportable 3 years ago
(She probably understands that she's going to pay a price for it, too; her neighbor even tells her that "Those detectives were here again.")She starts reflecting on how she came to be in this position, from Camilla's coolness to her flirtations with Adam to the unforgivable humiliations at the party.
pstchaseki 3 years ago
What about the monster?
The monster, who hides behind the diner where Diane contracted the killing, seems to be the demon Diane metaphorically begins dealing with when she decides to have her girlfriend knocked off. In the end we see he's just a homeless man, a reminder of the grimy Hollywood Diane came to know after her jitterbug-queen optimism got beaten out of her.And,OK -- he's also the keeper of the box,the symbol of Camilla's death and perhaps reality contained(sort of like a movie).
pstchaseki 3 years ago
One of the best movies ever
ALIEN468 3 years ago
had to watch it 3 times to fully understand what Lynch was getting at
pstchaseki 3 years ago
And what was he getting at?
PigLover69 3 years ago
What the fuck is going on in this movie?
Well,it seems that Diane had her girlfriend murdered.Then, in a masturbatory fantasy cum fever dream in the moments before she commits suicide, she reimagines her ruined career and failed relationship with the woman she loves.
The dream begins with Camilla/Rita miraculously escaping the hit Diane had taken out on her.
pstchaseki 3 years ago
From there,Diane,a product of Hollywood, imagines the story in cinematic fashion:She sees herself as the naive wannabe starlet Betty,who succeeds on sheer talent and solves whatever problems are thrown her way.She even gets the girl!
pstchaseki 3 years ago
Thematically,Lynch seems to be working out a number of things:the enticing but empty imagery of the movie screen; the accompanying imagery that is used as stardust to cover up the unpleasantries of the movie-making process;the imagery that the ambitious use to reimagine and remake themselves;and the imagery and imagination actors put to work to create their characters.
pstchaseki 3 years ago
Diane and Betty are the same person.Some viewers see that it's the same person right away; others are flummoxed because they just seem different. If you look closely, you see they're the same actress. The actress, Naomi Watts, delivers a technically dazzling performance. It's difficult to believe that chipper Betty and the ground-down Diane are the same woman, but they are.
pstchaseki 3 years ago
Wow! Thanks for the extended reply man. Yeah thats what I thought too. Ive heard a lot of people say there is no cohesion in the film, how bullshit is that?
PigLover69 3 years ago
As a reader points out in a letter to the editor, Lynch even slips in a wry joke."It's weird to be calling myself," Rita says as the pair call Diane. "Hi, it's me," Diane says immediately afterward, on her answering machine.
pstchaseki 3 years ago
"So it was all just a dream." Is that the cliché you're contending Lynch is giving us?
Well, it's a little more complex than that. It certainly does explain the exaggerated gestures, heightened emotions and odd plot turns in the first part of the movie. Seen as dream motions, Betty's hokey "I'm goink to be a stah, darlink" schtick makes more sense.
pstchaseki 3 years ago
OK, so what about the box?Diane's fantasy is a number of things. It's obviously a dream of a world in which her relationship with Camilla was different -- a place where Camilla loves her and is dependent on her. But it's also a requiem for her lost career, and arguably an elegy to a lost Hollywood as well. But Lynch seems rather ambivalent about the lost Hollywood, which by analogy undermines Diane's dream vision,too.
pstchaseki 3 years ago
Lynch may be telling us that this is the dream we all share when we watch Hollywood movies, and reminding us at the same time that it is a dream -- that it is wishful, and says a lot about the dreamer. The movie's most problematic conceit is Diane's hallucination of the mad powers behind the scenes in Hollywood. Are those imaginings the incoherent ones of a cockeyed youngster turned sour by failure?Or the unvarnished truth of someone who'd seen it happen, up close and personal?
pstchaseki 3 years ago
Indeed, Diane herself is someone who deals with personal rejection by hiring an assassin. Lynch does a great job intertwining the dicier sides of Diane's character with a wider critique of Hollywood as a business and the complex relationship between Hollywood as dream factory and its audience. It's possible Lynch sees consumers of popular Hollywood fare as unable to work out their grievances in their real lives,so they resort to fantasies of revenge.
pstchaseki 3 years ago
What's the time period of the movie?
It's apparently the present, but the dream part of the film is an eras-spanning romanticized netherworld of ivied Hollywood apartment buildings, aging stars and picture-perfect period re-creations on busy sound stages. (In "Blue Velvet," too, Lynch pulled off the trick of creating a modern setting that seemed somehow to have previous decades still hanging heavily in the air.) The women ride around in cabs a lot, an anachronistic touch.
pstchaseki 3 years ago
But the thuggish hit men and crack-addled hookers wandering around are up to the minute. Overall it's typical of the fine line Lynch walks between the fantastic and the real,all set against a malevolently filmed skyline, harsh parking lots and the endless expanse of light that is L.A. from the hills at night.
pstchaseki 3 years ago
Speaking of which, despite a few night scenes, this is one of those odd noirs in which terror lives in broad daylight.
OK, so what about the box?
We don't know about the box.
pstchaseki 3 years ago
Allow me. The box is the enigma. And they (the girls) have the key, the answer, though they don´t know yet the question. When they go to the silencio club they discover nothing is what it seems. So they discover the question. That´s to say: they discover they are living in a fantasy. Therefore the shock while watching. Therefore the "awakening", or rather, the destruction of the dream by sheer reality.
Sounds Ok?
zascandil2000 3 years ago 2
Once it's unlocked, Diane has to return to the physical world and accept that she's done an inhuman thing.
Readers see a lot more in the box: Several found an amusing -- and hard to argue with -- sexual connotation. (Maybe that's why the hitman laughs when Diane asks what the key opens.) Others make a case that it's a television. The multiplicity of meanings fits in well with the film's texture.
pstchaseki 3 years ago
The blue key is supposed to mean Camilla's dead; but we see her alive after that.
After the fairly straightforward narrative of the film's first two-thirds, the last part of the movie is a staccato sequence of flashbacks. Diane sees the key, and understands that the deed is done.
pstchaseki 3 years ago
Diane sees that she's been reduced to an object of pity and contempt by even someone like Coco.That takes her into the downward spiral that produces the hallucinogenic first part of the movie and then her decision to shoot herself.
pstchaseki 3 years ago
Let's talk about the 50 grand. Diane gives it to the hit man; why is Rita carrying it?
This is a good example of Lynch's dream logic. Diane fetishizes it, and it turns up in an odd place in the dream. Same with the mysterious blue key. The hit man says he'll leave a normal blue key in her apartment when the deed is done. This transmogrifies in her fantasy into that futuristic one.
pstchaseki 3 years ago
Both are also necessary to Diane's dream mélange of film clichés, particularly noir film clichés (and the director's deconstruction of the genre as well: "A dame appears out of nowhere with 50 grand in her purse and a mysterious key.")
pstchaseki 3 years ago
Watch the movie carefully and you see that many characters and props in the last third of the film are picked up in Diane's mind and repurposed for the dream: The hit man's black book; her grouchy neighbor; the waitress at the diner; the director's mom; the director who didn't give her the movie part;the woman Camilla kisses at the party; the cowboy; even her aunt.
pstchaseki 3 years ago