Feminist blog vs Mens rights blog.wmv

[Marlockie]

late post... I tried to visit a feminist site, but the hate on the first page was too horrible to dig further.. using Chistianity against a person who might not see eye to eye with the feminist view is pretty low..

[VAWAhorrors]

Google: Martha Laura Granados Immigration Prostitute

The VAWA Immigration Loop-hole:

If you are a woman, pretend to be in love with a US citizen / Legal Resident, deceive him to marry you. As soon as you got the marriage certificate dial 211 and falsely accuse him of Domestic Violence and Rape and move to a VAWA shelter.

You will be on a fast-track for a Green-Card and US citizenship - all expenses paid for by the US tax payer and as a bonus you will be getting full social benefits.

[VAWAhorrors]

1. Give Women Voting Rights

2. Give Women Equal Rights

3. Give Women Extra Rights

4. Give Women Extra Protection... from Men

5. Hear only Women and Ignore Men

6. Believe Women only and Treat men as Perpetrators

7. Let Women Falsely Accuse Men without Consequences

8. Encourage Women to be Helpless Victims and to think of All Men as Rapists

9. Encourage False Accusations by Women (VAWA) and Punish Innocent Men

10. ...Watch Women Destroy Men, the Family and Society !!!

[angeltears87]

Racism against blacks hurts whites too, homophobia hurts straights too...Your argument make no sense.

[factory2590]

@angeltears87 You need to deprogram yourself....

[OniNoFro]

@angeltears87

Racism against black people may hurt whites but the magnitudes of difference must be considered. The severity & scope must be understood before consequences can be weighed. What you're speaking of is backlash theory; the potential for macro-growth is lost against the actual harm which was caused. But there's a huge difference between the immediate-the actual-and the potential loss. The framework of your argument seems to hinge on victim theory... thus nonsensical

[angeltears87]

@OniNoFro

Nope I am not speaking of backlash theory.

An example of what I am speaking of is in australia we have a work for the dole program for aboriginals. Nobody pays much attention to it as it is assumed it is good for aboriginals (racism). The government is pushing for having a similar project for white australians, the fact it already exists make sit easier for them to implement this.

Also it is just divisive so harmful to all in that regard.

[upstart1234ify]

Well Said! Radical feminism should be considered a hate crime.

[Hulkmania316]

I have finished the translation, but I wont publish it untill I know how to pay you the proper respects. If you wish I can call you factory2590 or if you prefer for me to use your name tell me so. I will be waiting for your reply.

[factory2590]

@Hulkmania316

I just go by the name "Factory"

[Hulkmania316]

I will ad the link of your magazine, of course. I also have another question. How should I call you? I want to pay you the proper respects as an author.

[Hulkmania316]

I loved this video. I would like your permision to translated and to put it in my blog. Please answer me. I wont do nothing without your permission. I have an mra blog in spanish where I translate the best videos and articles for spanish readerrs. I will be waiting for your reply.

[factory2590]

@Hulkmania316 Go ahead, my man. How about this, you plug my magazine for me in return:

avoiceformen/mrm/mrm.php

Sound fair?

:)

[Hulkmania316]

@factory2590 I dont understand the expresion plug my magazine for me. Do you want me to translate some articles? Or you wolud like for me to add a link to your web site? These techological words cause me some trobles.

Oh, by the way. Do you work with Paul Elam?

[factory2590]

@Hulkmania316

Yes, I do know Paul, he hosts the download site for the magazine. You can feel free to translate these videos and anything else I do, all I ask is every once in a while you put the link for MRm! on a site and tell people it exists.

Here's the link I would like used if possible...

[Hulkmania316]

@factory2590 I will ad the link of your magazine, of course. I also have another question. How should I call you? I want to pay you the proper respects as an author.

Please send me the link as a private message. Aparently it does not appear on youtube comments

[MattBurnerHopkins]

Does anyone know where I can find an advocacy group against frivolous sexual harassment claims?

Let's see how these feminists survive in the upcoming WW3 depression.

[timeknowsfilms]

Think this film should be banned & boycotted, if it was vise versa you would not hear the end of it. So take your women studies and shove them strait up your ASS.

[timeknowsfilms]

Hell I cannot even collect insurance and have to take a place I've worked for, for over 9 years to court now just to get my money, went to group councilling and all the women got it no problem, all you see on TV is women this women that, and pushing lesbianism on girls through videos now, and this new movie coming "Jennifers Body", here is a line from it, "Your killing people", reply, "No I'm killing boys" like were not human, well F**k YOU, and of coarse there is a hero woman as well.

[timeknowsfilms]

What did this woman get? House arrest, when another killed her 5 children, what was it blamed on, depression, I have chronic depression & panic disorder, I have 2 nephews & a niece, would never hurt them, women helps kill young girls, they make a plea bargan with her, she get's out, then another one helps yet another kill a girl and she get's the same treatment, so get off this BULLSHIT that women have it bad, women studies, please, they won't bring this up in women studies.

[timeknowsfilms]

Who the Hell would want to take women studies, what makes them so great? Let's look at something here, women have it easy in the U.S., Canada and Europe, now if you lived in a 3rd world country then you would have something to bitch about, where women are raped & murdered, here you open your mouth up you get a job, there are more homeless men then women, nobody neds to do a study on that, women get away with everything, including murder, take for instance a mother killing her baby recently,

[gyspy21]

please take women's studies courses.

[ninjapenguino101]

women studies are worthless

[timeknowsfilms]

on TV is real, listening to rich overpaid big mouths like Oprah, a woman that simply caters to woman in helping them out, there are more homeless men then women, but with in film women are stealing roles from men, women are becoming men, it has made me turn away from one of my loves in that of movies, gone are the days of the scream queens, now it's a woman walking in kicking ass, women are becoming men, it's a joke.

[timeknowsfilms]

No film exists, not sure who Kanaelie, but sounds like a female so you know she will say that there is, there is NO films where the male hero kills and beats the female bad guy, they always let them live, then you have this garbage Jennifer's Body, who is the one who must beat the demon? Another woman, and even at that they have to engage in immoral lesbian acts, women in today's society are in short quote on quote evil drowns, they believe what the media tells them, they believe that what is

[factory2590]

So you're not indoctrinated, you CHOOSE to hate men so much?

Wow.

[justanotherperson1]

I stopped watching 3 mins into this... this is the most mindnumbingly inane bullshit I've ever seen.

[factory2590]

You wouldn't happen to be a feminist now would you? Excellent!

Why don't you enlighten us all as to which men's issues are worthwhile...I'd like that.  If you could tack on a bit about what feminism has done in these areas, that would be cool too. Failing that, maybe you could tell me what value I should assign to your opinion...

[justanotherperson1]

I couldn't care less about men's issues, especially white middle-class male issues.

I do not represent feminism as a whole, as there are many different feminist movements, and many different feminisms, and each feminism is different for each feminist.

I laugh when I hear men say they are discriminated against in anyway, considering that even if all men die off, women will still be oppressed since the English language itself is oppressive. Get my point?

[factory2590]

Yeah...not only are you a man hater...but you're nuts too.

Good on ya, I suppose. Keep on showing the world why feminism is an evil blight that needs to be stamped out...it helps my cause immensely.

:)

[justanotherperson1]

Lol, I haven't even taken Women's Studies 101, or read a feminist book yet. What I said was not even the basics of feminism. The fact that you consider what I said oppression, when I didn't even say anything negative about men, I just don't include them in my cause for concern, shows how privileged you are. Good on ya. Helps my cause immensely.

[AlekNovy]

"They have to make-up shit to justify their existence"

How true. Feminism has turned into a movement desperately trying to find problems to fight against.

[inconsistanttruth]

i agree, there is no need of any groups of the type,

[factory2590]

Not so. Given the pervasive acceptance of feminist dogma as truth, and the misandrist society we live in (even spell checks don't recognize the word), there is definitely a need for a Mens Rights Movement.

[inconsistanttruth]

Well, What i mean was that there is no need for any groups of any type, feminism etc,

If we were all to look at each other at humans rather than a separate species the world would be alot better, just one mans opinion ^^

[factory2590]

Well, we don't and never have. Feminism has put men in a terrible position, and I have no interest at all in "freezing" things just like they are.

When men and women have equal rights and equal treatment by the law, that's enough for me.

But until then, I will fight for every issue WITHOUT regard as to how it affects women. I will afford them the same courtesy they have shown men.

[inconsistanttruth]

Hmm i see what your saying,

I would just like to applaud you for replying in a civil manor, post's i leave on Feminism Videos asking about and questioning their views always end in a childish flame war.

Kudos.

[timeknowsfilms]

Apart. I thought a few months ago I had found Miss Right, but she turned out just like the rest of them, thinking about themselves and not being there for when you need them the most, when your hurting they call it drama, when they hurt your suppose to feel sorry for them, is there truly a GOOD woman in this day and age? I have yet to see it...

[salmoozation]

-apologizes on behalf of gender-

[timeknowsfilms]

Also I can't enjoy action movies or horror movies anymore, they have abolished the scream queens and the damsel in distress, now it has to be a woman surviving and being able to kick like 6'5 300lbs men butts like it's nothing. Watch the original of a film called the Hitcher, then watch the re-make, it's role reversal, same damn film but a woman shooting the guy at the end. Plus in the original they didn't show the woman being ripped apart , this one felt the need to show the guy being ripped

[timeknowsfilms]

I repeatedly see commercial(s) playing up to woman's health, like us men don't matter. The latest fiasco is heart disease, a disease that effects both men and women, but there is a butter commercial, yes you read it right, a butter commercial supporting to save women only for this disease, what about men? But the list goes on and on, always trying to save the women, like they are something special, people say to me you need a good woman in your life, find me one then? Because I'm not seeing any

[timeknowsfilms]

I'm a man that suffers with major depression and panic disorder. I attend a group, it's made of mostly women, only two men, myself & another. I have been trying to collect disability, I've been denied 3 times & the last was an insulting woman who denied my claim. Now all the women in this group all are on Disability, so is it fair that women can easily obtain this & me who is suffering more then them can't. A big HELL NO! Plus more sponsorship going into saving women then men. It's not fair.

[timeknowsfilms]

Not to mention the media trying to play role reversal. I can't count how many remakes have been made simply because a man was the hero in the original then they reverse roles. I absolutely hate movies with women kicking ass, it's ALWAY's a woman kicking a man's ass, but if he hits her it's abuse. Hello it's just a movie, 90% of women want to see male action stars as well, in short there is way to much opprotunity for women out there, don't believe me? See how many homeless women there are.

[crypter27]

Its true feminism is trying to castrate action movies.

[ghost55wolf]

I agree. In movies and on TV its totally ok to show a female heroine kicking the crap out of a male villain. However, when viewed up close, most of those female characters are portrayed as anti-heroes that don't stand up for anything as much as they stand against something... and that something is men.

If feminists truly believed in equality, then they would argue for strong, believable characters, male and female, on BOTH sides. Whats wrong with a male hero besting a female villain?

[kanaelie]

Yeah, like that's rarely happened in any film ever.

[ghost55wolf]

Kanaelie, can you give me a few examples where a male hero has bested a female villain in films? I can't think of a single one, and I watch a lot of movies.

[animeloverryan85]

that depends what you mean by female villian. Do you mean in general? or their intentions, because I can think of plenty. :)

[ghost55wolf]

I'm not certain I understand your meaning, in general or intentions. The new Indiana Jones had a female villain, but she was done in my her own ambition and pride. I can't think of a single movie where a male hero bests a female villain, and obviously neither can Kanaelie, despite her empty sarcasm. But you can think of plenty? Please list any that you believe fit the bill

[animeloverryan85]

I never saw the new Indiana Jones movie. But let me think, OH YEAH! Dolph Lundgren in The Punisher, (Note: I had a list in my head when I replied to your message but it slipped my mind). Terminator 3...Well recently, on the tv series the ultimate villian on Prison Break was the two protagonists mother. But Ghost wolf, I am on your side. And you are right, if those examples don't fit the significance you were aiming for, then I will think of some more, however there are not ENOUGH male(h) v F(v)

[animeloverryan85]

Speaking of which, I myself have wrote exactly what you're thinking of in my book, there I'm trying to create a little more female villians.

[ghost55wolf]

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who thinks this way. I find it irritating that female characters are almost never portrayed as villains that we WANT to see get their comeuppance, and on those rare occasions, it isa female hero that fights them (Catwoman). Feminism can't stand any portayal of a woman in a negative light, but they demonize men at every turn. It is utter hypocrasy to think that women are above evil. I too am writing a book, and the villains will mostly be female

[ghost55wolf]

So Kanaelie, it has been a month since this post and you still have yet to offer me ANY example of a movie (or book or TV show) where a male hero kicks the shit out of a female villain. Typical. Your kneejerk reaction to my earlier post has yet to be supported. Just admit that there is a definite anti-male bias in society, and that it has been brought about by your feminist comrades. Hypocrite

[marcusdracos]

Book: wheel of time by Robert Jorden, Sword of truth by terry Goodkind, A sone of ice and fire by George Martin...hmm theses are all fantasy books Moveis:... well..Batman and robin? but look at some comics like DC

[crypter27]

join the movement

[shazam20007]

the feminits incessantly spray whining anti men slogans and repeat accepted feminit cant mostly that womyn are hard done by men and true equality between the sexes( that is where womyn are preeminent er first amongst equals gobbledygook)

however feminitism is a Marist dogma and is forced down mens's thraoats by dint of law

eg sexist discrimination quotas skewed Family Court rulings favoring womyn

the womyn typically get the goldmine as men get the shaft

young men should eschew marriage

[factory2590]

By the way, thanks for the feedback everyone.

[SpazzDog]

What are some of those feminist blogs you went to?

[factory2590]

You don't think I'm stupid enopugh to take you up on that particular wild goose chase, now do you?

:D

[SpazzDog]

Why not? I'm curious and want to corroborate your story. You don't need to send me on a wild goose chase, you can send me the URLs in a private message.

[factory2590]

Because you don't need to "corroborate" my story. As I said in the video, doing your own research is easy. If you disagree, go ahead and do so. But I won't defend myself to calls of "prove it" any more.

[SpazzDog]

When have I ever asked you to prove anything? All I wanted was to read the blogs you read. But you're so derisive in your attitude that you automatically turned on a fellow MRA without even knowing it or giving it a second thought. If you don't want to be like the feminists then you better change your attitude or you'll fall down the same pit they have.

[factory2590]

That's not the point I'm trying to make.

The point, fellow MRA, is that the reader / viewer do their own thing and reach their own conclusions...there's FAR too much regurgitation going on these days....people need to think for themselves more.

As to the blogs alluded to, I have no desire to either "smear" them, nor do I have the desire to find examples for other people to read. This "prove it" response is a typical feminist response.

Of course, as a fellow MRA you know what I mean.

[SpazzDog]

My problem is, the feminist blogs I found don't really talk much about the "patriarchy" or men that often. I was hoping you found blogs which did. I come from an environment which harbors freedom of information between people so I didn't see anything wrong with asking. But if that is a problem then I'll just step aside and be sure not to ask for future assistance.

[factory2590]

Pretty much every feminist blog I've visited does indeed talk about The Patriarchy(tm), mostly in the comments although the posts themselves positively drip with misandry.

Try typing "feminist" into Google.

By the way, this is the last time I respond to passive-aggressive bullshit.

[factory2590]

You know what, this thread got weird fast. I apologize Spazzdog, I think I may have assumed you were taking an oppositional stance, in error as it seems.

But as far as naming names and pointing to examples, I'm afraid I can't/won't do that, since a) they're so easily edited, and b) the misandry is well couched in high falutin' terms, and usually requires following the thread for a while.

As to the passive-aggressive thing, that stands...it's a cheap tactic.

[SpazzDog]

I wouldn't of been so passive-aggressive if you didn't start by attacking me.

[kanaelie]

Giving valid proof is a terrible thing, isn't it?

[factory2590]

The only people that ever ask me to "prove it" are the very same people that won't believe or even listen to a single bit of it, especially if it contradicts their prejudice.

So, over the years, I have decided not to play that game. Go to Glenn Sacks's site, or mensnewsdaily, and get your fill of stats and info there...they're good places to start.

But yes, when your day is spent repeatedly giving the same valid proof to feminists, who summarily dismiss it, it's terrible.

[jhan6120]

Right on the money. Good work.

[AzureEyesD]

Good show

[mathewskarl]

Yes, yes, I agree, absolutely, yes, you're right about that, Yes, yes and yes.

I've seen this with my own eyes - I even had one feminist blogger censor my post, and THEN she went further by quoting me - but adding her own words in to my quote, *AS IF* I had written them - talk about blatant deceit and corruption.

[AzureEyesD]

That's fucked up, but I wouldn't put it past them since they're perfectly willing to lie and alter statistical data to support ridiculous claims.

[BEG4MPG]

feminism is Communism

[Introspectre1]

Well communism theoretically, is for the benefit of all people,(Although it never works out that way.). I'd say feminism is more like fascism in that they shamelessly admit to their supremacy and desire to harm us,(If you read between the lines.), whereas communism maintains that "For the people", facade until it's too late.

[Introspectre1]

Oh, I forgot to add that feminists work with the elitists to undermine their hated group, much like nazi's worked with corporations to enact the final solution, (IBM punchcards anyone?). This is likely just semantics, but I think it's slightly more apt, despite the fact that feminists are always quoting marxist rhetoric.

[factory2590]

Frankly, feminist tactics / objectives fall right in line with pre-war Germany, right down to State controlled raising of children (remember, I'm Canadian, where it's absolutely shocking for the Conservative gov't to suggest a tax credit is more apt than subsidized day-care).

And I've actually met a few people that were there at the time, many of whom notice parallels today.

[Introspectre1]

I agree and am also Canadian, ironically I used to believe in all this subsidy stuff, until I realized how it is being used to further un-democratic agenda's. I still believe in helping the poor, disabled and mentally ill, it's only civil after all imho, but, empowered special interests that use our own funding to subvert fair play, can go straight to whatever hell they happen to believe in, as far as I'm concerned.

[factory2590]

You sum my views up perfectly, to be honest. I see no problems with helping people in need. What I object to are the little fiefdoms these bureaucrats run, and the Religions built up around such concepts as "Women's Issues" or "Global Warming" (to name a couple Shibboleths).

Yes, helping the unfortunate is a good thing. but limiting debate on who, or whether, is THE problem.

[themanonthestreet]

Clear, concise, and poinient. Nice work Factory!

TMOTS

[Orville9999]

your best vid yet. Calm, articulate ,and well reasoned. Out of curiosity, what was the board you posted on where the argument started?

[factory2590]

SYG actually.

[Introspectre1]

Right on Factory, your video demonstrates aspects of how fanatical dogmas are born and perpetuated. It's a shame that academia is so prone to unquestioning ideology these days, they're largely invalidating their reason for being which imo, is to decrease dogma and fanaticism with critical thinking.Well, as long as feminists hold the sympathy of society, they get away with things that true reason would call fanatical. My question, how do we break the hold over culture that the feminists have?

[factory2590]

Simple. Call them on their shit. Publicly. And loudly.

Then, watch the bigots like geekella come out of the woodwork, acting all bigotty, discrediting themselves.

Facts are facts, feminists cannot argue with the truth, they can only try and hide it.

[Introspectre1]

It's amazing to read the comments these people,(Geekella and others), leave on MRA channels. I mean, they're criticizing us for supposedly not being moral enough while they snidely insult us and imply their superiority directly or indirectly, pretty oppressive stuff! Those who don't police their own character shouldn't be judging others because they are, at least as much to blame for these issues as we are.

[factory2590]

I'd love to say it's amazing, but if you look at it, you'll see that not only do feminists typify the behaviour they blame on The Patriarchy(tm), they personify the basest, most bigoted characterization of "privileged white male" behaviour. Only if they do it, it's OK because "women have been oppressed for thousands of years".

aka, Patriarchy Theory is merely justification for a shitty attitude, and even worse behaviour.

[Introspectre1]

Yeah, when I said amazing, what I meant was its astounding how supremacist hypocrisy can gain public approval with the very people who claim to be so morally opposed to injustice. Its amazing to watch feminists perpetually justify their supremacist attitudes as just, while they simultaneously demonstrate their capacity to power-trip, blame and dehumanize. A bit like nazi's in their time, the popular fascists of the day seem to get away with almost anything.

[factory2590]

They only get away with it as long as people are willing to keep their mouths shut out of fear. Speak up, publicly and loudly, and their "power" vaporizes into the ether.

Because they can't help but come off as intolerant bigots....that IS, after all, what they are.

[patr333x]

One reason dissenters get banned on feminist blogs is that a socialist agenda has to be moved forward. Discourse was never the intention of the feminist movement; they have no intention of debating anything since they don't want to find truth, but rather create it.

[Truth0rDeath]

Another to add to my favorites.

Yes, feminists have ALWAYS been big on suppression of dissenting opinions. It only serves to highlight their true nature. Thats why so many call them feminazi's.

Most MRA blogs will never ban or censor someone for disagreeing with them. We welcome it. A person is only banned in cases of outright trolling.

[Chaoticentertainment]

Brilliant video

Factory you rock

[sirskeptic]

Good clear reasoning.

Thanks

[sausage4mash]

spot on my friend

[TruTV]

You rock.

[bloodfart01]

bravo well said.

[centreline67]

"A lot of MRAs dealing with seeing women in a negative light for the first time in their lives". That was a great statement. I think a lot of people see women as somehow "nicer" than men. It is something that people who have been heavily abused by women as children or who have taken a turn through child custody war know to be complete shit. But waking up to that fact is for some guys quite a destabilising feeling.

[ArgusEyes]

Very good.

Factory, you should keep up with making very rational and devistating videos such as these. I do enjoy watching them quite a bit.

[Chevrobert]

Great video. This is exactly what needs to happen. People must be shown the feminist play book to see what they are really about. Feminist love to direct others to places they have cleaned up so they can show people what they want them to see. Just go to a feminist rally sometime and listen to what they say or an anti abortion rally and listen to which side is really being hateful instead of who they claim are filled with hate.