Of course the orange sounds like shit in that video, he scoops the mids as much as he can, turns the preamp gain full and puts the power amp volume at one, so there's only highs and fizz..........turn that volume up, turn down the shape knob so you get some mids in your face and turn that preamp gain down a little, your pussy ears will be full of that orange juice.
The Orange seems to have more of a dynamic sound. The Egnater sounds darker and muddier which is a lot more noticeable on the high gain setting. 6V6 side is the way to go. I agree that the Egnater is much more versatile.
I actually preferred the Orange. I thought it's tone was a little more ear friendly... Complex and dynamic where the Egnator was a little darker and muddier. I own both :-)
Sounds like to me that the egnater just lends itself more to the 6v6 sound. The orange is beefier and more mid rangey. The egnater has a great sound but even w the el84 tubes it has a compressed more scooped type of sound. I love mids so I like the orange, have a thunder 30. But I want a rebel 20 for lighter stuff and a 6v6 sound. I love putting it on 1 watt or 3 watts and being able to really push the power section.
Just want to know from people who have used either one or both of these amps, which one produces a crunchier sound like Angus Young's sound from AC/DC. Thanks
@astrophysics123 Try the egnater tweaker. I own it and it nails that mid-way crunchy marshall tone ALL DAY! With a tube swap, master and especialy V1 you will have a killer amp. But of these either would probably be pretty good too.
Both amps sound great. Overall the sound comes down to preference, except for the fact the Egnator has more sounds. The Egnator is like a digital SS amp that sounds like a tube amp, which it should since it's a tube amp. Talk to you later Jack. Make some more movies.
@b1gnasty69 I agree...much more natural tone from the Orange. I bought a tweaker cab and really wanted to like the tweaker amp to go with it but I just couldn't get into that amp.
Those Bassman cabs are so cool. I'm thinkin about getting one and loading it with Scumbacks for my Soldano head. Anyone have an opinion on how well this cab would do for that? I don't wanna pay for 4 Scumbacks, and I need a big cab so my bassist's 215 doesnt dwarf my amp!
Like the tone on both amps but the egnater was buzzing pretty bad... Listen about 1:53-1:57. thats some serious hum for an SG. Can't imagine a single coil not sounding like angry hornets
ya this vid doesnt do either of them justice, more so the egnater.. both awesome, but i like the rebel better. you just gotta play them in person or atleast find a demo done with a 57 or something.
Not a good demo. I've played both. Egnater is much more versatile. Blend the 6V6's in. Run it through greenbacks. Incredible. This is just horrible audio quality. Also, the key for the Egnater is dialing in the preamp/power amp distortion and then adjusting the attentuation to suit the room. If you spend some time with it it absolutely kills the orange. And I own vintage marshall, fender, hiwatt amps. DON'T JUDGE THIS BY THE CAMERA MIC HE IS USING.
@twst1 i don't know where the egnater is made...my classic 30 is a peavey amp. for the price, peavey tube amps are fucking incredible...even the crate palominos sound great! you don't need to spend 2,000 dollars for a good amp.
@maciverandy the egnater is made in china, but its just as nice as a classic 30, and the overdrive is better. for a clean or edge of breakup cranked clean i'd pick the peavey, but everything else its the egnater. ive got demos using both amps with various guitars, and i like both amps, just for different things.
Orange translated better in this vid - I thought the Egnater sounded a bit brittle, but the true test is hearing and playing both in person. Thx for the vid
This is going to be more personal preference when the dust all clears. They are both very well built amps. The "tester" failed to describe the tone settings on the Egnater.I'd dare say that he likes the scooped tone and set the mids low.I've played both of these amps and I don't remember the Egnater having such a pronounced difference in the mid-voicing.I'm also forced to agree with MrTreemount's comments too. I prefer british tone, the Egnater's don't do it for me, but they are great amps!
well, Orange is a really cool amp company. Just as the Germandude said... it's really limited. for someone that has allot of money and can afford to bring multiple amps to one show the by all means the TT15 is going to rip as a rhythmic monster. But for the rest of us.... go with versatility. this is a great comparison because the amps are designed for the same thing, crunch rock. However..... for a show player i would go with something with a little more balls such as a rebel 30 or a renegade65
I went Egnater, but I got a Tweaker 15... That being said, variety is the spice of life, and where would be the fun if we all owned the same amp?? Both sound great!
I've owned both of these amps and a/b them side by side through the same cab and they really are two very different amps. As far as features goes, the Rebel wins. But for playability the Tiny Terror smokes the Rebel. The notes will sustain much better and pick up the tone of your guitar, pickups and you're playing much better on the Tiny Terror. The rebel would "drop out" when the sustaining note started to diminish.
I don't see how this comparison is fare, the Egnater costs almost half more than the Orange, besides at that price point there are many much more sweeter amps, for example Vox NT 50W, Jet City 50watt head not to mention second hand market with all of it's 5150's and other stuff...
I'm loving this wave of 30 watt and lower heads........People are finally able to get big sounds at bedroom levels and prices that most can afford. Honestly I'll probably get both (probably the dark terror not the tiny) and have more versatility then buying a 3000 dollar head that I can't turn up like it should be with out the cops coming to my door.
Orange seems to have an organic and raw flavor. I would generally describe it as bassy/dark. They seem to be sort of one tone fits all.
The character of the Egnater shows more compression and maybe perceived volume. There are more knobs to play with, but they do less than you may expect. I suspect most guitarists will choose a 6v6/el84 mix and a 1-20 wattage and just stay there.
To me they both sound great, the orange have a litler more mid range in the sound, but is very boring when it come to find another tone. The egnater have more thing to play with and find a sweet tone. But truly both sound great but i pick the egnater.
The Orange's signature sound just cannot be beat in terms of crunchiness and anger. It's such a cool sound. And it's true, it's the only sound it does best. The Egnator has a fuller, more opulent sound, couldn't dream to achieve the Orange's hard rocking crunch sound though. They both sounded the best when played together!
@crawzillarulz Agree to disagree, my friend. Neither of them come close to the NT on the cleans and the TT just sounds obnoxious to me. It's all yours!!!
its all personel preferance. i've played both, and liked both, but prefer the Orange for my style- blues , classic rock. the Egnater is versatile, though
Are you guys stoned, get over the Orange Bigotry.. I have the Egnater Renegade and all day long it runs next to a Rocker 30 on the dirty channel. Hmmmmm 1000USD vs 2000USD.. geez i dont know. Much more versatile amp. Bring your orange box and i'll bring my amp and we can hide them behind curtains, all day long people will think i have the orange just because of whats in their head.
It was fairly obvious the reviewer wanted to make the Egnater sound better. The latter was more nasally and brighter, but I thought the Orange sounded more natural, and certainly took much less messing with to get a good sound. Egnater was more Vox, and Orange more old style Marshall in sounds to me.
I am more interested in what the reviewer is TELLING me about the piece WHILE hearing. Because there is NO WAY one should base their purchase on something they "heard" on touyube! I don't care if you have your computer's sound running the the highest of high end stuff; ONE CAN'T CONVEY FEEL! over all these digital signal sources. Egnater's stuff is top freaking shelf, Kiddo!
The TT has the classic 70s Marshall/British sound while the Rebel 20 is more modern sounding. For my sound, I'd go with the TT but I'll admit that the R20 may be more versatile.
Gearmanndude - is that TT the hand wired version or the regular Chinese production model?
I used to work at a guitar shop, and I got to play these li'l guys back-to-back. The Orange slays at what it does, but I found that the dynamics and versatility of the Egnater were leagues apart from the Orange for what I wanted to use it for. The Orange was a killer little shredder amp, but the Egnater felt more studio-equipped, which a video of this caliber can't really convey.
Also, I think the Vox Night Train is an equally viable contender.
i used to have the TT but i got rid of it and bought the rebel 20. The egnater is just so much more versatile sounding. oranges have a killer sound, just very one sided... way more different sounds you can get from the rebel
Um, I don't really agree with those claiming the Egnater is for people who dig scooped metal tones.
I can get a sort of Fenderish, crunchy blues tone out of it.
I tried both side by side--The TT was cool, and really having both would be great, but I bought the Egnater. Either way, good amps. And, FWIW, both blew away the Tweaker.
As always, I'm loving the gearmandude. Great demo, and a great axe as well. I would have like to have heard these amps full master. I mean they're low wattage, so crank em'
The orange I had had this honky midrange to it that I kinda liked and cut through the band well, ultimately it was the lack of an effects loop that killed it for me though as it made delay/reverb useless.
I actually prefer the Orange Tiny Terror, although I concede that it is the less versatile amp out of the two. I don't own a rebel 20, but I own a tweaker (which I liked more than the rebel 20 when I tried them at the store), and I also own the Tiny Terror, which I love. I think the egnater sounds "better" to most guitarists because most guitarists prefer a modern, mid-scooped metalish tone.
Also, I should probably mention that while I do enjoy classic guitar tones, I'm not the type of player that attempts to mimic a certain sound. I'd rather come up with a different sound that I like, and the Rebel is great for that because the controls on it do a lot to shape the sound.
I like the Tiny Terror, but I just spent about an hour playing a Rebel 30, and I'm completely in love with it. It's my next amp.
The Rebel 30 ups the wattage to 30, adds a channel (clean/dirty), and reverb. I was playing it with a Danelectro '56 and no matter how I set up the knobs, it sounded great. LOTS of different tones available.
Also, the Rebel 30 (and I believe the 20 as well) has a silent play mode; you can hook your recording gear up to the jack on the back and play without a speaker.
in the uk there is not a egnater service centre , so was not an option for me.. the tiny terror does one thing very well, better than most. . and does not tyr to sound like other amps, its not a marshell or a messa .. its an orange unlike a few of the small heads out at the mo .. is a great amp..
Egnater's drive sounds a lot more modern compared to the TT. I'm a huge fan of classic tones, gonna have to say TT. Can't get an Egnater anywhere near here though, which is a shame. I'll never get to try em out side by side in person :(
@Applesandoranges11 Don't worry. The TT is a very good amp. I got mine the other day and I love the overdrive in this amp better than my El Diablo 100. This amp does not hide the true sound of your guitar. BUY IT!
to your ear do you like the 6v6's or the el84's better? What characteristics about them? i'm looking for a good marshally tone. Thanks and rock on!!! \m/
@ekoldr Hey you seem to know something....Im looking into one of these...i prefer the TT sound actually even though it only has the tone knob..most if us are playing in out apartments so in your opinion whats the best one to get good sound at low volumes..and whats the best tube amp for playing at low volumes...thanks....
i agree.....never owned them...but thanks to local guitar center and me not caring about how they feel about high volumes...until i get kickedout.....i feel the egnator is much more versatile than the tiny terror.....although...i like the tiny terror much better.....easy, straight to the point, tiny terror...
I dont know, the egnater has a lot of nice features. But for tone the tiny terror reminds me so hard on my JTM when you put the tone center, volume full and gain around 5 or 6. The egnater just doesnt bring that to me. I would take the terror again and again, the egnater for me isnt pure enough, though its a better deal for the money.
Volume 8-9, Gain half tone full = JTM in HighVoltage era, more gain will take you through the 80s and back till todays sound with the tone on center. Pure AC/DC.
i got my rebel about 3 months ago, running it through a 2x12 cab with vintage 30s. found a cab similar to mine in a local guitar shop and ran their tt through it. messed with it for about 20 minutes and still couldnt get the thick sound i get from my rebel. i damn near blew the windows out of the store trying to find the sound but just couldnt do it. but with my rebel i found it in about 2 minutes. and cranked to 11...its out of this world.
Wow. Big response. Totally different. Egnater is really...thin and...faint. Like it sounds like the amp is constantly giving reverb. Playing in a metal box.
The TT was really full. Warm and heavy. Good Bass response.
I've owned the TT and the Night Train and played the Rebel and to me the Night train was a clear winner all around with the Rebel leaving me feeling raped after playing it it was so bad in EVERY setting. Dry,one dimensional and very...cardboard sounding. The Tiny was a fairly close second but, the NT actualy SOUNDS like big AMP AND THE TRANNIES ARE 3X BIGGER in it and had better wiring. better dynamics,tone and versatility.
orange amps should just be played by punk bands! Not versatile, and don't need to be! Play one thing, and just that one thing. For the rest of us that like to experiment a little, go Rebel!
@jesshickman9 lol, Jimmy Page played an orange for some albums... I personally didn't like the Tiny Terror at the store. I went with the Egnater though and I'm not regretting it! :)
@jesshickman9 no the tiny can do everything well if you know how to dial it in. max the volume and use the gain as your "volume" knob and you get everything else besides punk and metal. Glad you like your Rebel but, the tiny can do alot of things if you know how to work it.
Good video, I like the fact that you used the same cabs on each. Unfair though to run the Orange in half power mode. I own a TT myself, and I know that in 7.5 watt mode, the bandwidth is seriously compromised.
I am now interested in even smaller amps for recording. A shootout between Guytronix Gilmore Jr. and one of the AX84 kits would be cool.
Egnater Tweaker is better than both of these and cost less. If you want to spend more money than get the new Egnater 30 Rebel with 2 channels, reverb and multible speaker outs.
Egnator Tweaker = best "budget amp" to come out in a looong time.
And I'm not trying to bash Orange, but if an amp ONLY sounds good when it's loud, how is that a good thing???
Lastly, I gotta' say the thing I want most from this demo is one of the Fender cabs! :D Jensens are stock in those, I assume, right, GMD.?. Good stuff *thumbs up*
i liked the rebel 20 better of the 2 the tiny terror just wasn't anything like i expected the rebel has more options an fx loops and is cheaper and to my ears just sounds better overall and covers more styles as well i'll be picking up one of these sometime in the near future
i owned the egnater rebel 20 with the egnater 112cab, i liked it... i then sold that and got myself a TT hard wired edition and the black ppc212 and in my opinion the TT kicks its ass.
hey gearmann, i'd love to hear a comparison between the AD30 and the Dual Terror. they're both 2 channel 30 watters with EL84s. so i wanna hear the supposed $800 difference! (if there is one)
Oh man... Some of the slight crunch/clean tones I'd have to give to the Egnater. But the dirty, overdrive on the Orange totally blew the Egnater out of the water. And thats even on the 7 watt mode..
@punkmusicmetal Actually, can someone tell me why the Orange sounded so muddy compared to the Egnater around 1:16 ish? Was it because of the 7 watt? Or was it where the tone knob was turned to..?
please someone help me. I think im going to buy this amp, but first, is this a good amp to play ac/dc, airbourne and some heavy stuff like metallica and megadeth?
( I have a jackson dk2m with 2 seymour d. hambuckers)
I also think the Egnater just sounds too compressed and lacks character. It's a cool amp though but I can't see lugging around an amp (even if it's small) that I'll be fiddling with knobs every song. If I wanted that I'd just take my Boss GT-8 instead. But I'm willing to give it a try and see how it works for me, once I got the money. Worst thing is I can't find anything I like about it and sell it on CL.
I think the Tiny terror is for me the best. I feel like the Egnater is like a swiss army knife, whereas the tiny terror is a bowie knife. The Egnater can do all sorts of things, but the Tiny Terror can cut you to ribbons. Stupid analogy aside, I feel like the Egnater is just trying to do too much and is something of a gimmick, it does everything but nothing that stands out as it's own voice. It's cool if you like it, it's not us vs them, it's about your playing style and what works for you.
Of course the orange sounds like shit in that video, he scoops the mids as much as he can, turns the preamp gain full and puts the power amp volume at one, so there's only highs and fizz..........turn that volume up, turn down the shape knob so you get some mids in your face and turn that preamp gain down a little, your pussy ears will be full of that orange juice.
TheBenlag 1 day ago
ORANGE!!!
TheBenlag 1 day ago
The Orange seems to have more of a dynamic sound. The Egnater sounds darker and muddier which is a lot more noticeable on the high gain setting. 6V6 side is the way to go. I agree that the Egnater is much more versatile.
zombiemontage 1 week ago
Egnater rules!!!
ALFAREZ 1 week ago
Orange sounds hi-fi as fuck, no depth to the sound at all.
Tordah26 1 month ago
layering amps is the way to the golden distortion
roomfullofidiots 1 month ago
I actually preferred the Orange. I thought it's tone was a little more ear friendly... Complex and dynamic where the Egnator was a little darker and muddier. I own both :-)
delpuckett 1 month ago
cause its christian slater duh!
emanhacker 1 month ago
Jack Black couldn't play as well as this guy. That would b one deciding factor.
cameltooth1 1 month ago
Sounds like to me that the egnater just lends itself more to the 6v6 sound. The orange is beefier and more mid rangey. The egnater has a great sound but even w the el84 tubes it has a compressed more scooped type of sound. I love mids so I like the orange, have a thunder 30. But I want a rebel 20 for lighter stuff and a 6v6 sound. I love putting it on 1 watt or 3 watts and being able to really push the power section.
sr1129 1 month ago
Man you do awsome demos! Keep it up.
DownSouthable 1 month ago
Just want to know from people who have used either one or both of these amps, which one produces a crunchier sound like Angus Young's sound from AC/DC. Thanks
astrophysics123 2 months ago
@astrophysics123 Try the egnater tweaker. I own it and it nails that mid-way crunchy marshall tone ALL DAY! With a tube swap, master and especialy V1 you will have a killer amp. But of these either would probably be pretty good too.
willeng84 3 weeks ago
Egnater's daughter is a babe.
saltyshoelace 3 months ago
The Egnater wins handily.
sustayne 3 months ago
Both amps sound great. Overall the sound comes down to preference, except for the fact the Egnator has more sounds. The Egnator is like a digital SS amp that sounds like a tube amp, which it should since it's a tube amp. Talk to you later Jack. Make some more movies.
otm3904 3 months ago
Is this jack black haha.
Kledgend1996 3 months ago
Egnater kicks some serious ass!
ewmehmo 3 months ago
its the egnater for me even do the orange is also kick ass!
LOLOKAKASOSO 4 months ago
Egnater sounds scooped as hell
b1gnasty69 4 months ago
@b1gnasty69 I agree...much more natural tone from the Orange. I bought a tweaker cab and really wanted to like the tweaker amp to go with it but I just couldn't get into that amp.
MrEasler 3 months ago
Orange all the way !
Duroduro666 4 months ago
Those Bassman cabs are so cool. I'm thinkin about getting one and loading it with Scumbacks for my Soldano head. Anyone have an opinion on how well this cab would do for that? I don't wanna pay for 4 Scumbacks, and I need a big cab so my bassist's 215 doesnt dwarf my amp!
jacobtheguitarfreak 4 months ago
Like the tone on both amps but the egnater was buzzing pretty bad... Listen about 1:53-1:57. thats some serious hum for an SG. Can't imagine a single coil not sounding like angry hornets
HTEK207 5 months ago
+1 Orange TT
guillerob99 5 months ago
Orange=megamuddy
sweethouze28 5 months ago
100% Egnater...try to find some demos that sound good...this one does not.
lighteningboy 6 months ago
ya this vid doesnt do either of them justice, more so the egnater.. both awesome, but i like the rebel better. you just gotta play them in person or atleast find a demo done with a 57 or something.
21kfish12 6 months ago
Tiny Terror win! woot woot woot
waxwox 6 months ago
Not a good demo. I've played both. Egnater is much more versatile. Blend the 6V6's in. Run it through greenbacks. Incredible. This is just horrible audio quality. Also, the key for the Egnater is dialing in the preamp/power amp distortion and then adjusting the attentuation to suit the room. If you spend some time with it it absolutely kills the orange. And I own vintage marshall, fender, hiwatt amps. DON'T JUDGE THIS BY THE CAMERA MIC HE IS USING.
tatsandteles 6 months ago
Eggnater doesnt even brakes an egg. Tiny Terror Rocks by a million miles!
ledlim 7 months ago
I think the Tiny Terror would have sounded more "versatile" in this video if you had used the tone knob...even just moved it once.
alexjauxier 7 months ago
thanks for the upload, appreciated.
Dicktatorjohan 7 months ago
the egnater is more 'versatile' but so is a peavey classic 30. both sound extremely bland and boring. tiny terror rules.
notstevelam 7 months ago
@notstevelam dude i have a classic 30 and i'd put it against any orange amp. it's way better, cheaper, and made in the good ol' usa!
maciverandy 7 months ago
@maciverandy where's the egnater manufactured?
I could just get off my ass and look at the back of mine, but....what fun would that be?
twst1 6 months ago
@twst1 i don't know where the egnater is made...my classic 30 is a peavey amp. for the price, peavey tube amps are fucking incredible...even the crate palominos sound great! you don't need to spend 2,000 dollars for a good amp.
maciverandy 6 months ago
@maciverandy the egnater is made in china, but its just as nice as a classic 30, and the overdrive is better. for a clean or edge of breakup cranked clean i'd pick the peavey, but everything else its the egnater. ive got demos using both amps with various guitars, and i like both amps, just for different things.
chrisshootsicd 6 months ago
@chrisshootsicd there not made in china
Addiesarkisian 5 months ago
@Addiesarkisian wait... did something change? because mine says made in china on the back! sorry but you lose.
chrisshootsicd 5 months ago
@chrisshootsicd bro i have a rebel 30 and im clearly looking at the made in usa sticker and i used to intern at there factory
Addiesarkisian 5 months ago
@chrisshootsicd
I have a rebel 20 and the salesman at GC said it was made in america, but it says made in china.
Its just designed in usa.
idrinkensureplus247 4 months ago
@chrisshootsicd
the tiny terror is also made in china.
marshall class 5 is made in england.
idrinkensureplus247 4 months ago
TINY TERROR ALL THE WAY
legendzskate 8 months ago
Orange translated better in this vid - I thought the Egnater sounded a bit brittle, but the true test is hearing and playing both in person. Thx for the vid
djtrouserfunk 8 months ago
Man I don't know which one is better but when you play both of them, DAAAAAMNNN :D:D:D
ChupoChupich 8 months ago
Don't like the Egnater..... TINY TERROR ROCKS !!!
Duroduro666 8 months ago
This is going to be more personal preference when the dust all clears. They are both very well built amps. The "tester" failed to describe the tone settings on the Egnater.I'd dare say that he likes the scooped tone and set the mids low.I've played both of these amps and I don't remember the Egnater having such a pronounced difference in the mid-voicing.I'm also forced to agree with MrTreemount's comments too. I prefer british tone, the Egnater's don't do it for me, but they are great amps!
MrVaalium 9 months ago
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MrTreemount 9 months ago
well, Orange is a really cool amp company. Just as the Germandude said... it's really limited. for someone that has allot of money and can afford to bring multiple amps to one show the by all means the TT15 is going to rip as a rhythmic monster. But for the rest of us.... go with versatility. this is a great comparison because the amps are designed for the same thing, crunch rock. However..... for a show player i would go with something with a little more balls such as a rebel 30 or a renegade65
MrTreemount 9 months ago
Go Egnater! Just bought a second hand Rebel 20 two days ago - EPIC amplifier!
EnvyInc 9 months ago
Great review Jack Black!
Hydrophish 9 months ago
I went Egnater, but I got a Tweaker 15... That being said, variety is the spice of life, and where would be the fun if we all owned the same amp?? Both sound great!
GibsonTick 9 months ago
I've owned both of these amps and a/b them side by side through the same cab and they really are two very different amps. As far as features goes, the Rebel wins. But for playability the Tiny Terror smokes the Rebel. The notes will sustain much better and pick up the tone of your guitar, pickups and you're playing much better on the Tiny Terror. The rebel would "drop out" when the sustaining note started to diminish.
douglasdog1 9 months ago
Camera sound, yeah, reall good comparison...
pisnahuj10 9 months ago 2
I don't see how this comparison is fare, the Egnater costs almost half more than the Orange, besides at that price point there are many much more sweeter amps, for example Vox NT 50W, Jet City 50watt head not to mention second hand market with all of it's 5150's and other stuff...
pisnahuj10 9 months ago
I'm loving this wave of 30 watt and lower heads........People are finally able to get big sounds at bedroom levels and prices that most can afford. Honestly I'll probably get both (probably the dark terror not the tiny) and have more versatility then buying a 3000 dollar head that I can't turn up like it should be with out the cops coming to my door.
solan417 10 months ago
Orange seems to have an organic and raw flavor. I would generally describe it as bassy/dark. They seem to be sort of one tone fits all.
The character of the Egnater shows more compression and maybe perceived volume. There are more knobs to play with, but they do less than you may expect. I suspect most guitarists will choose a 6v6/el84 mix and a 1-20 wattage and just stay there.
my .02
nbrothergtr 10 months ago
The tone knob is right up on the tiny terror, probably why it sounds thin. Mine sounds much better than these videos.
sinisteruk 10 months ago
To me they both sound great, the orange have a litler more mid range in the sound, but is very boring when it come to find another tone. The egnater have more thing to play with and find a sweet tone. But truly both sound great but i pick the egnater.
YOANDRYG 10 months ago
The Orange's signature sound just cannot be beat in terms of crunchiness and anger. It's such a cool sound. And it's true, it's the only sound it does best. The Egnator has a fuller, more opulent sound, couldn't dream to achieve the Orange's hard rocking crunch sound though. They both sounded the best when played together!
ffhaksf 10 months ago
that Orange DID sound awesome, but there both good!
userboy6 10 months ago
Thank you so much for this!
adamwhizbang 10 months ago
The guy talking sounds just like Jack Black.
ilikeost 10 months ago
vintage 30 is a celestion speaker not eminence..... but I agree I think egnater crushes orange.
segarsrock 10 months ago
@segarsrock Thats why it says "CLONES", that would be a key or important word. Just sayin...
ourawkfist 10 months ago
Sorry to double comment, but I gotta say the Orange just took a Fat Dump on the Egnater.
crawzillarulz 10 months ago
Both are wrong - VOX NT all the way. haha.
mldew28 11 months ago
@mldew28 Can't top a Tiny Terror, The VOX sounds like ur playing through a phone.....or under water.
:P
Want a "REAL VOX" go buy an AC30!
crawzillarulz 10 months ago
@crawzillarulz Agree to disagree, my friend. Neither of them come close to the NT on the cleans and the TT just sounds obnoxious to me. It's all yours!!!
mldew28 10 months ago
its all personel preferance. i've played both, and liked both, but prefer the Orange for my style- blues , classic rock. the Egnater is versatile, though
MrCrapheadist 11 months ago
Are you guys stoned, get over the Orange Bigotry.. I have the Egnater Renegade and all day long it runs next to a Rocker 30 on the dirty channel. Hmmmmm 1000USD vs 2000USD.. geez i dont know. Much more versatile amp. Bring your orange box and i'll bring my amp and we can hide them behind curtains, all day long people will think i have the orange just because of whats in their head.
ourawkfist 11 months ago
It was fairly obvious the reviewer wanted to make the Egnater sound better. The latter was more nasally and brighter, but I thought the Orange sounded more natural, and certainly took much less messing with to get a good sound. Egnater was more Vox, and Orange more old style Marshall in sounds to me.
vitsamutsu 11 months ago
I am more interested in what the reviewer is TELLING me about the piece WHILE hearing. Because there is NO WAY one should base their purchase on something they "heard" on touyube! I don't care if you have your computer's sound running the the highest of high end stuff; ONE CAN'T CONVEY FEEL! over all these digital signal sources. Egnater's stuff is top freaking shelf, Kiddo!
theguitarczar 11 months ago
Egnater has too many high-mids . I like Orange Tiny-Terror because its lo-fi sound makes the sound more suitable for electric guitar.
whoisthenext1 11 months ago
The TT has the classic 70s Marshall/British sound while the Rebel 20 is more modern sounding. For my sound, I'd go with the TT but I'll admit that the R20 may be more versatile.
Gearmanndude - is that TT the hand wired version or the regular Chinese production model?
lifternate 11 months ago
Eminence vintage 30's....?
BouvrieMax 11 months ago
OYE! OYE! OYE!
e7353 1 year ago
FATALITY! Overdrive Tiny Terror.. Wins!
IonsCreeper 1 year ago 2
Awsome amps. Gotta love the egnaters versitility. I'm lookin at the tweaker now. Thanks for the vid
Whoelsewoulddie4u 1 year ago
gotta admit, the tube blending is interesting technology, I'd have to favor the egnater by a long shot
schwoogie1 1 year ago
Update: Already a Rebel-20 owner, I purchased a Tiny Terror to compliment my rig.
Again, both of these are great amps. Moral of the story: You need both.
Iplayinaband 1 year ago
One trick poney vs two trick poney, still good both amps, just prefference.
Newbyrock23 1 year ago
Orange is very picky as to what speakers it is plugged into...this is like comparing apples and oranges since the orange only has one tone control.
sevinsound 1 year ago
I used to work at a guitar shop, and I got to play these li'l guys back-to-back. The Orange slays at what it does, but I found that the dynamics and versatility of the Egnater were leagues apart from the Orange for what I wanted to use it for. The Orange was a killer little shredder amp, but the Egnater felt more studio-equipped, which a video of this caliber can't really convey.
Also, I think the Vox Night Train is an equally viable contender.
JohnnyJohnnyJohnny 1 year ago
i used to have the TT but i got rid of it and bought the rebel 20. The egnater is just so much more versatile sounding. oranges have a killer sound, just very one sided... way more different sounds you can get from the rebel
alexmartz8766 1 year ago
Um, I don't really agree with those claiming the Egnater is for people who dig scooped metal tones.
I can get a sort of Fenderish, crunchy blues tone out of it.
I tried both side by side--The TT was cool, and really having both would be great, but I bought the Egnater. Either way, good amps. And, FWIW, both blew away the Tweaker.
Iplayinaband 1 year ago
@Iplayinaband BTW--I'm using a custom spec'ed T-Style guitar with hand wound pickups...a country/blues twang machine.
Iplayinaband 1 year ago
As always, I'm loving the gearmandude. Great demo, and a great axe as well. I would have like to have heard these amps full master. I mean they're low wattage, so crank em'
zbdd8 1 year ago
The Orange is more nasty and in you face. I LIKE IT. The Rebel sounds pretty good too but kinda processed.
LeStraTele 1 year ago
i own that Egnater Rebel 20 - best head i ever played except a Koch Studiotone, but that is another pricerange...
kotedo 1 year ago
I like the Rebel 20 much better, at least in this demo.
playthecray 1 year ago
The orange I had had this honky midrange to it that I kinda liked and cut through the band well, ultimately it was the lack of an effects loop that killed it for me though as it made delay/reverb useless.
Jeedan 1 year ago
The TT retains superb note separation in when overdriven, the Egnater sounds 'muddy' in comparison - but it's still great!
geespar1 1 year ago
WOW JACK BLACK DID THIS VIDEO!?
mratkins89 1 year ago
interesting... unfortunately you did a good job of stuffing the orange into a corner.
master on 1?
crank the master and set the gain about half and it will roar like a classic rock amp.
true, it is a one trick pony but it is a monster trick.
i'll take the tiny terror any day...
bodhidharma2600 1 year ago
Just tried out the Egnater at guitar center today, and it has to be the best blues sound I have ever heard when played with a Strat neck pickup.
sergeant137 1 year ago
I actually prefer the Orange Tiny Terror, although I concede that it is the less versatile amp out of the two. I don't own a rebel 20, but I own a tweaker (which I liked more than the rebel 20 when I tried them at the store), and I also own the Tiny Terror, which I love. I think the egnater sounds "better" to most guitarists because most guitarists prefer a modern, mid-scooped metalish tone.
boztone 1 year ago
i want the sg
fenderstratjourney 1 year ago
Egnater Rebel American overdrive, TT British overdrive...
jazarstevens 1 year ago 7
Also, I should probably mention that while I do enjoy classic guitar tones, I'm not the type of player that attempts to mimic a certain sound. I'd rather come up with a different sound that I like, and the Rebel is great for that because the controls on it do a lot to shape the sound.
787Bisurdaddy 1 year ago
I like the Tiny Terror, but I just spent about an hour playing a Rebel 30, and I'm completely in love with it. It's my next amp.
The Rebel 30 ups the wattage to 30, adds a channel (clean/dirty), and reverb. I was playing it with a Danelectro '56 and no matter how I set up the knobs, it sounded great. LOTS of different tones available.
Also, the Rebel 30 (and I believe the 20 as well) has a silent play mode; you can hook your recording gear up to the jack on the back and play without a speaker.
787Bisurdaddy 1 year ago
..lol. it is jack black..
in the uk there is not a egnater service centre , so was not an option for me.. the tiny terror does one thing very well, better than most. . and does not tyr to sound like other amps, its not a marshell or a messa .. its an orange unlike a few of the small heads out at the mo .. is a great amp..
aevans692 1 year ago
you sound like jack black
holzymrt 1 year ago
I like the sound of both, the Egnater sounded better to me with lower gain but I prefered the TT when it got cranked.
vainparasite 1 year ago
Egnater's drive sounds a lot more modern compared to the TT. I'm a huge fan of classic tones, gonna have to say TT. Can't get an Egnater anywhere near here though, which is a shame. I'll never get to try em out side by side in person :(
Applesandoranges11 1 year ago
@Applesandoranges11 Don't worry. The TT is a very good amp. I got mine the other day and I love the overdrive in this amp better than my El Diablo 100. This amp does not hide the true sound of your guitar. BUY IT!
MultiScoffer 1 year ago
@MultiScoffer Lookin' too - a month til Christmas so when I have just a little more cash I'll be doing just that!
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MultiScoffer 1 year ago
@Applesandoranges11 Cool! You'll be glad you did!
MultiScoffer 1 year ago
didn't do it justice. play it in person, all of Egnater's stuff sounds fake to me. The TT is excellent.
(and a Rocker 30 is better :P)
41224jason 1 year ago 6
@41224jason Fake how?
svenzia 10 months ago
@41224jason And a Rockerverb 50 is even better :)
Duroduro666 4 months ago
Great video! I'm loving the egnator gear....... I think that's definitely Jim Root from ye old Slipknot/Stone Sour!!!
axegrinderturbo 1 year ago
Thanks Gearmanndude. Yes, the rebel sounds great, but the Orange TT taste better to me. The tone of the TT just cuts right thru me. Peace!
MultiScoffer 1 year ago
can the tiny terror get loud enough to get over a drummer?
NeutralSnap 1 year ago
to your ear do you like the 6v6's or the el84's better? What characteristics about them? i'm looking for a good marshally tone. Thanks and rock on!!! \m/
B2Rockin 1 year ago
@B2Rockin if your looking for marshall tone have you looked at the marshall haze?
armyqpzm 1 year ago
Lol! Jack Black! I totally thought the same thing. Trouble is, Jack doesn't speak "tube"!
Probably not even a captain...
jpoprock 1 year ago
ITS JACK BLACK
Velixo 1 year ago
Egnator all the way even though i think having an amp thats orange would be cool :P
motlencore89 1 year ago
I'm not surprised the two top rated comments are from air head guitar players with no respect for their hearing. "Crank it up man! What's 16k?"
"Ever hear of Plato? Socrates? ...Morons"
ekoldr 1 year ago
@ekoldr Hey you seem to know something....Im looking into one of these...i prefer the TT sound actually even though it only has the tone knob..most if us are playing in out apartments so in your opinion whats the best one to get good sound at low volumes..and whats the best tube amp for playing at low volumes...thanks....
stevoe1000 1 year ago
I like both amps but the TT reminds me of Zeppelin. A GREAT thing.
SuperLizardness 1 year ago
the tiny terror seems to have much more definition...
leonard1893 1 year ago
i agree.....never owned them...but thanks to local guitar center and me not caring about how they feel about high volumes...until i get kickedout.....i feel the egnator is much more versatile than the tiny terror.....although...i like the tiny terror much better.....easy, straight to the point, tiny terror...
TheGoliathsound 1 year ago
Hi, I agree ... the Egnater wins. A friend of mine just got a job with Egnater...lucky bastard! :)
smkonwater23 1 year ago
I dont know, the egnater has a lot of nice features. But for tone the tiny terror reminds me so hard on my JTM when you put the tone center, volume full and gain around 5 or 6. The egnater just doesnt bring that to me. I would take the terror again and again, the egnater for me isnt pure enough, though its a better deal for the money.
Volume 8-9, Gain half tone full = JTM in HighVoltage era, more gain will take you through the 80s and back till todays sound with the tone on center. Pure AC/DC.
HagusYoung 1 year ago
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alexandrevillain 1 year ago
06:20 "aaahnnn... yep?"
alexandrevillain 1 year ago
i got my rebel about 3 months ago, running it through a 2x12 cab with vintage 30s. found a cab similar to mine in a local guitar shop and ran their tt through it. messed with it for about 20 minutes and still couldnt get the thick sound i get from my rebel. i damn near blew the windows out of the store trying to find the sound but just couldnt do it. but with my rebel i found it in about 2 minutes. and cranked to 11...its out of this world.
supermans4l 1 year ago
what type of sg is it?
houseband239 1 year ago
@houseband239 its a customshop reissue, the best sounding sgs you can get new.
HagusYoung 1 year ago
...and you do sound a lot like Jack Black, dude! :D
DisasterBlaster500 1 year ago
Rebel sounds a whole lot better than the Orange IMHO.
DisasterBlaster500 1 year ago
Egnater at all!
Damn Italy...the costs are too heavy :(
CutTheSlayer 1 year ago
Wow. Big response. Totally different. Egnater is really...thin and...faint. Like it sounds like the amp is constantly giving reverb. Playing in a metal box.
The TT was really full. Warm and heavy. Good Bass response.
TheLoneAdvocator 1 year ago
i had this running while browsing other websites. every time my brain said "hey thats a nice tone" i'd click back, and it was the TT. jus sayin'
BombshellBill 1 year ago
I've owned the TT and the Night Train and played the Rebel and to me the Night train was a clear winner all around with the Rebel leaving me feeling raped after playing it it was so bad in EVERY setting. Dry,one dimensional and very...cardboard sounding. The Tiny was a fairly close second but, the NT actualy SOUNDS like big AMP AND THE TRANNIES ARE 3X BIGGER in it and had better wiring. better dynamics,tone and versatility.
diesect33 1 year ago
orange amps should just be played by punk bands! Not versatile, and don't need to be! Play one thing, and just that one thing. For the rest of us that like to experiment a little, go Rebel!
jesshickman9 1 year ago
@jesshickman9 lol, Jimmy Page played an orange for some albums... I personally didn't like the Tiny Terror at the store. I went with the Egnater though and I'm not regretting it! :)
GuitarGuy0008 1 year ago
@jesshickman9 no the tiny can do everything well if you know how to dial it in. max the volume and use the gain as your "volume" knob and you get everything else besides punk and metal. Glad you like your Rebel but, the tiny can do alot of things if you know how to work it.
diesect33 1 year ago
@jesshickman9 what punk bands play orange amps? none
YourNameHere136 1 year ago
@YourNameHere136 I find the tiny terrors to nail ols school punk tone. New york dolls/Deadboys/ramones etc
eatthemoon13 1 year ago
Good video, I like the fact that you used the same cabs on each. Unfair though to run the Orange in half power mode. I own a TT myself, and I know that in 7.5 watt mode, the bandwidth is seriously compromised.
I am now interested in even smaller amps for recording. A shootout between Guytronix Gilmore Jr. and one of the AX84 kits would be cool.
dnpqkc 1 year ago
Anybody know where I can buy cabs like these?
modestvermin995 1 year ago
@modestvermin995 Do a search for Geezer cabinets...they make all kind of different cabs. They sell on e-bay too. Very reasonable.
steelphantom71 1 year ago
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@modestvermin995 @modestvermin995 Do a search for Geezer cabinets...they make all kind of different cabs. They sell on e-bay too. Very reasonable.
steelphantom71 1 year ago
woooh! the orange is totally killed by egnater
satjathamma 1 year ago 17
To those who slag the TT..the Egnater is twice the price......
maneatingtoilets 10 months ago
Egnater Tweaker is better than both of these and cost less. If you want to spend more money than get the new Egnater 30 Rebel with 2 channels, reverb and multible speaker outs.
jadart2000 1 year ago
Egnator Tweaker = best "budget amp" to come out in a looong time.
And I'm not trying to bash Orange, but if an amp ONLY sounds good when it's loud, how is that a good thing???
Lastly, I gotta' say the thing I want most from this demo is one of the Fender cabs! :D Jensens are stock in those, I assume, right, GMD.?. Good stuff *thumbs up*
yobhsiFehT 1 year ago
egnater!
Keizashi 1 year ago
i liked the rebel 20 better of the 2 the tiny terror just wasn't anything like i expected the rebel has more options an fx loops and is cheaper and to my ears just sounds better overall and covers more styles as well i'll be picking up one of these sometime in the near future
brandon5pennies 1 year ago
i owned the egnater rebel 20 with the egnater 112cab, i liked it... i then sold that and got myself a TT hard wired edition and the black ppc212 and in my opinion the TT kicks its ass.
rohw0016 1 year ago
hey gearmann, i'd love to hear a comparison between the AD30 and the Dual Terror. they're both 2 channel 30 watters with EL84s. so i wanna hear the supposed $800 difference! (if there is one)
41224jason 1 year ago
Egnater win
embolato 1 year ago
Oh man... Some of the slight crunch/clean tones I'd have to give to the Egnater. But the dirty, overdrive on the Orange totally blew the Egnater out of the water. And thats even on the 7 watt mode..
punkmusicmetal 1 year ago 2
@punkmusicmetal Actually, can someone tell me why the Orange sounded so muddy compared to the Egnater around 1:16 ish? Was it because of the 7 watt? Or was it where the tone knob was turned to..?
punkmusicmetal 1 year ago
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sify11 1 year ago
Hi Jack Black
bondman00794 1 year ago
orange wins my vote
Jimihendrix6699 1 year ago
Sounds kinda like Jack Black especially at the end, "both tiny lightweight monsters. Uh...........yep." lol
IndyAfro92 1 year ago
@IndyAfro92
yea hes been doing these demos for a few years now
bsabbath55 1 year ago
i would kill for any of these amp heads
guitarsANDcars39 1 year ago
You should try out a Vox Night Train.. They are pretty damn awesome!
19ZoSo93 1 year ago 2
Orange has a more straight forward punch and present sound suitable for classic rock. That will explain the one trick pony.
The egnator seemed like it was a more distant and not quite as punchy but it was an interesting tonality due to the eq no doubt.
pissballs 1 year ago
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please someone help me. I think im going to buy this amp, but first, is this a good amp to play ac/dc, airbourne and some heavy stuff like metallica and megadeth?
( I have a jackson dk2m with 2 seymour d. hambuckers)
fckfst1 1 year ago
I also think the Egnater just sounds too compressed and lacks character. It's a cool amp though but I can't see lugging around an amp (even if it's small) that I'll be fiddling with knobs every song. If I wanted that I'd just take my Boss GT-8 instead. But I'm willing to give it a try and see how it works for me, once I got the money. Worst thing is I can't find anything I like about it and sell it on CL.
SpankyFat 1 year ago
I think the Tiny terror is for me the best. I feel like the Egnater is like a swiss army knife, whereas the tiny terror is a bowie knife. The Egnater can do all sorts of things, but the Tiny Terror can cut you to ribbons. Stupid analogy aside, I feel like the Egnater is just trying to do too much and is something of a gimmick, it does everything but nothing that stands out as it's own voice. It's cool if you like it, it's not us vs them, it's about your playing style and what works for you.
SpankyFat 1 year ago
I prefer the definition of the Egnater.
intrsoul 1 year ago
guy talks like jack black. any vid with the dc is good.