Mountain Lion Victim - Found while running in mtns

[MaineShag55]

"Found the remains of a deer near....."

That's just it, isn't it ? You "found" bones of a good sized Buck, however that does not prove that it was killed by a Lion, even tho' it may have shown up to eat its fill, etc.

You seem not without "Hubris". yourself ?

[mattdogg60]

A cougar leaves a huge bed of hair behind from their kill because they pluck the hair before they eat, also you will rairly find more than hair left because a they eat most of the bones aswell.

[TheRealVenna]

The bones are too white for it to have been a recent kill. There is also no cartilage or tendons remaining which would leave the bones connected. This kill has to be a year old if not longer. It's too long a time to determine what killed it. If you live in an area with multiple predators, it could have been any one of them. If it was a mountain lion, good for it, for finding a deer and not going after a human child. Deer are it's preferred prey so I'm glad it was there for him.

[hunterfishman1]

@canadiandrummer54

F.Y.I. ITS PRONOUNCED ABOUT... NOT A BOOT, NOT A BOAT... (ABOUT)

DUMB ASS CANADIANS! A?

[hunterfishman1]

@canadiandrummer54

sensitive much?

did crying help?

its ok youl get over it. well maybe not I think I hit a nerve.

TRUTH HURTS DOESNT IT PANZY!

[hunterfishman1]

@canadiandrummer54 WOW, you canadians realy are as dumb as you look, thanks for the proof!

[hunterfishman1]

thats a coyote kill, if a cat killed it it wouldnt be spread all over like that.

[matanuskatundra2]

@hunterfishman1 yep youre right cougars are known to bury their kills

and they only eat only eat about 70% of the kill leaving the carcass for

other animals and insects.

[sunsdomain]

Um, this is a really old carcass gnawed by various animals. There could have been many causes of death. (e.g. buck was wounded by a hunter, died later . then it was scavenged by dogs or coyotes) So it's a bit dramatic to state "Mountain lion victim" in the title. HOWEVER - maybe you shouldn't jog alone on remote trails if you know there's a lion in the area. That's how and where most human victims of cougar attacks die.

[posiden125]

pak a gun when out like that 12ga 00 buck

[hunterfishman1]

@posiden125

I have had more mt lion encounters than most people & i've never needed a gun,2 of 7 times I was armed, once with a bow & the other time a rifle but they fear man & run from me every time! for someone who dedicates his life spending 2 days a week in the woods studying all wildlife, I sure know a heck of alot about this stuff since I see it on a weekly basis. ive seen 100's of lion & coyote kills, a hunter may have shot it but I'm 100% certain that coyotes ate it!

[IbeJaleel]

Yes, it's definitely a lion. Let's hope you both meet soon and fight to the death.

[NDulge1]

Send more tourist. The last ones were delicious!

[shaolinwolfjam]

I always thought it was dumb to go out running in the mountains where large predatory animals hunt.

[1067highland]

NO DOUBT ABOUT IT first of all who the fuck carries a video camera jogging in the mountains and u sound like a hick u fucking DUCHE BAG!

[elburrodiablo]

Very unimpressive of you to find the remains of an animal that was eaten 7 years ago.

[hitman7955]

could have been bear, wolf, puma, coyotes, hell the dear could have died from old age

[DeadBuck5]

coyotes eat deer too, that kill is too old to tell what did that. ive found fresh killed deer w/ bite marks on the neck and the throat slashed out by claws and that tells me cat

[sean7phild2d]

Does this guy know that lion attacks are triggered by running? The dumbest place to jog is in the mountains.

[reallysillywilly]

At least he should jog with another male friend & preferrably carry a weapon! Mt bikers and joggers get killed all over America in just this way because they either get separated from the group or go alone. Protected lions have lost fear of man!

[doubletap777]

"I brought the antlers home. They represent the freedom of a life lived and ended without corporations or governments."

Take your tin foil hat off, asshole.

[mlke4258]

LOL...classic!

[XxFLUxX]

another case of a jogger finding a body

[justjared855]

uh try coyote a lion kill wouldn't be scattered everywhere dumb shit

[MBspartians]

i dont know, there might be some dought

[urvideoizgay]

yeah, from the way you spell 'doubt' you're obviously a very intelligent individual. deffinately one to trust.

[catstevensdoggy]

yes, he did live the freedom of being without corporations of government, but that also means he spent his days eating tree bark and was prematurely mauled to death by a 7 foot long pissed off cat. so i guess it has its pros and cons.

[Shagnasty69n]

a knife is not going to stop a 200+ lbs cat from eating you.... unless your a ninja. they hunt from the trees, it would be on your back tearing you to shreds before you even knew you were being hunted. i saw something like this when i was deer hunting only the kill was fresher there was still blood and hide everywhere, luckily i was armed with my trusty mossberg 500 ha ha it made me feel safer but i still would have been cougar chow if it hadnt already ate a DEER

[urvideoizgay]

you deer hunt with a shotgun??? is that a state requirement or something?

[Shagnasty69n]

ya, in iowa high power rifles are illegal for deer hunting. they jsut started a season for it a year back but theres so many stupid requirements its not even worth it.

[skatinrunescape]

Well ive heard of people killing them with knives after they attacked them..

[jetli113]

A knife for me is enough to take down a lion, but I would still get the f*** out of there if I saw one charging towards me!

[1tialoca1]

nah...more like coyotes...

[spurcross]

All animals die, they die for many reasons, and they all leave a pile of bones when they die.

What specifically suggests this one died from a cougar?

[d4h3ll]

i have a ram skull its ool but i did it cuz.. uhmm i dno lol

[bapyou]

In the U.S. & Canada from 1890 to 1990, Univ. of Calif. wildlife scientist Paul Brier found 10 human deaths and 48 injuries documented due to mountain lion attack.

FOR EACH YEAR during the same time period, two dozen human deaths and 200,000 injuries due to domestic dog attack were documented. That is 2400 human deaths and 20 million injuries due to domestic dog attack during the century of record.

The victims of all except one of the lion-caused deaths were unattended children.

[goodaggie]

16% of a coyote's diet is deer, almost 100 percent of thoses are fawns. fact

[murse2273]

Those of you that don't think coyotes take down deer read too many magazines and don't get outdoors much. They make a living by opportunity and I've seen it first hand. And yes wolves do prey on deer...last month in the sage three wolves took down a doe along the fenceline of I84 with many folks watching it. You have no idea what that deer died of. He could have died from human or animal wounds and finished off by magpies, dermistid beetles, bald faced wasps, and ravens. sure there is doubt

[yoda55]

it couldve been wolves or a grizzly bear if you get those by you lol.

[PwnerSonic]

he said this was by Los Angeles also it could've been a Black Bear kill as well I'm saying this because sometimes Black Bears will enter Calgary where I live & it's a huge city the size of New York & sometimes Cougars come in as well.

[dicksatan]

Calgary is as big as New York? That must be a big fuckin' stampede every year.

[PwnerSonic]

it's not a regular occurrence & it has happened at the west edge of the city & it's rare & limited to mostly 1 individual.

[bpc1960]

hey bare foot jerry....bull shit!!!

[tardgo]

I have a 75 year old friend who owns a 7,000 acre ranch in SW Colorado.He lets his cows graze all summer and never has any coyote problems.

He did not know he had mountain lions until a fire swept his property and he spotted a couple while checking on his cattle.

Lived there 75 years and had no idea he had resident mountain lions. I would say they weren't much threat to the cows.

[VertMike1776]

Question you have to ask is.... was he just Lucky? Most people will never see a Mt. Lion in the wild because they are nocturnal and hunt mostly at night. Extremly stealthy! Maybe the reason he has not had a problem with coyotes or Lions is because he allows predator hunting on his land and just didn't tell you.

[d4h3ll]

yeh but think he sed fire if u was a lion and there was fire i the mountains i wudnt giv a #### if it was morning wud u ud just get out of htere.

[vonlyf]

A word of caution: If there ARE Cougars in the area, RUNNING is the last bloody (no pun intended) thing you should do. They are p r e d a t o r s ... which means they will chase anything that moves or runs away. Two years ago a female "runner" got eaten in a national park @ 4:30 AM. ∂inner is ßerved!

[Bowhntr100]

pwr soni, I apologize if i was out of line. People in CA have feelings too, but all im saying is Coyotes kill all different sizes and shapes of animals. DOnt disclose them from being responsible just because you are desensitized to there habits.-good day

[MoonOstrich]

that is not at all a recent kill

[Bowhntr100]

PwnerSonic- If you say that coyotes do not kill deer then you must live right next door to whoever posted this video in downtown LA. That statement is plain ignorance. Coyotes dont just eat mice, rats and bugs you know. They are predators. I have seen a pack of Coyotes drop full grown elk and cattle on more than one occasion. When ignorant people try to talk like they know what they know what they are doing it, only makes you look dumber than you already are.

[Bowhntr100]

barefooted- i would watch who you are calling an"armchair expert" if you live in LA, California im not saying your not in touch with nature but come on! The National Forest in literally my backyard. I have killed many lions and i study there habits. ( times out of 10 they will leave the carcass in one place. Could have been a lion, then again dont discount coyotes. I have seen them drop a full grown elk before.

[Koopalo]

Did you get scared?

[PwnerSonic]

Maybe it was a bear kill or a cougar did kill it then got scared away by something & scavengers ate the kill just a guess.

[Pwn3dN33b]

Very true, but if the mountain lion is eating it, there would be nothing left for the coyote. Let alone, if a coyote got close, which surely it wouldn't, you would find some coyote bones nearby.

[Pwn3dN33b]

It doesn't look to much like a Lion kill. Lion kills aren't the kind of creature that leave bones around like that. You would have had to see it much earlier from the looks of the bones. Another key is the bones all in one area, a lion would have devoured the face and the stomach the time it made the kill, but it is possible. It looks like a hunter may have shot and wounded it.

[erok2020]

Who goes jogging with a video camera?? This guy apparently...

[barefootted]

ll you armchair experts amuse, but do not convince.

BFT

[Bowhntr55]

Definately a coyote kill. A cougar would have left the bones in one place and fed off of it.

[barefootted]

Firstly, let it be known that a large mountain lion is known to exist where this kill was found. Tracks of this animal seen frequently by many and reports of him getting pets, especially pygmy goats.

Suddenly, from a world away, we have experts of local wildlife. That is called hubris.

Now, the kill I found would have happened there, exactly where it is found.

The bones and leftovers could have been scattered by the local large coyote population.

BFT

[gmoneykiley7]

@barefootted dude, two animals can live in the same area, and, bowhntr is right, a cougar would have stashed the animal and eaten it buy itself. these remains show obvious signs of a group feeding. The bones and body parts thrown everywhere show that there was competition for food

[hunterfishman1]

@gmoneykiley7 thank you!

these idiots are flat footed city slickers who couldnt tell their ass from their elbow!

let alone a mt lion or coyote kill.

[hunterfishman1]

@barefootted ya, but one simple fact that your dumb ass is missing is that coyotes wont touch a mt lion kill JACK!!!

insert foot up ass & then in mouth because thats obviously where your head is at!!! XD XD XD

[jbrow161]

mountain lions dont spread bones everywhere coyotes would do something like that, but lions cover their kills and eat off them, they dont pull them around

[barefootted]

Do coyotes pull down big, full-grown male deer?

[PwnerSonic]

Have wolves been in the area u r jogging along in this video? I'm asking this because it could've been a wolf kill & wolves have preyed on deer, elk, moose, etc.

[barefootted]

No wolves. You can see downtown Los Angeles from where this mountain lion lives.

BFT

[PwnerSonic]

Oh ok then well have a good day bye.

[wllwei]

I see nothing

[DKoor]

Look at those bones on the path.... also antlers.

[VioletTigress]

Those are horns, not antlers. Antlers aren't bone.

[fiItxon]

Those are antlers.

Antlers are shed yearly, horns are permanent.

[mentalretart]

hick

[PhantomRandom]

That's in America, they got lots lol...if it was Australia or some other place thats got no mountain lions then it would become...interesting?

[mattslush]

dork'

[barefootted]

You said it. That guy thought that I didn't know what I was talking about. He obviously did not see the video I took of the same lion in the same area not long before.

BFT

[kdenison83]

that deer could have died a hundred different ways

[barefootted]

Wow, you think.

Oh, maybe the fact that they are aware of the very large mountain lion in the area, maybe the tracks leading up to the lair, maybet the classic spread of bones helped me know what I was seeing.

Maybe.

BFT

[mattslush]

Dork