Piotr Beczala - Il mio tesoro intanto andate a consolar

[Themanuelgb]

WUNDERLICHHH!! :D

[dziady1]

at last...... Bravo  ... Beczala .. he sings it with life not as a emasculated concert aria

[David45NV1]

@dziady1 this sort of "life" reaches only the uninformed and uneducated mass (which is by the way quite significant), same as Villazon does. Currently Mozart vulgarization is beeing tolerated, used, accepted and promoted for achieving commercial goals. Appreciating real Art requires intelectual effort but most people are too lazy to engage and prefere consuming superficial, deviated and light digestable forms. Beczala is being missused by the marketing machinery and he allows it.

[ciociosan]

finally, a don ottavio with BALLS!

[David45NV1]

@ciociosan BALLS out of context do not make a good performance. I suggest to study more about the context. This is not Mozart.

[ciociosan]

@David45NV1 I did, and still do, study the context.

We can argue all we want but the fact remains: a lot of people like his singing and interpretation of Don Ottavio. He will neither be hired nor be invited to sing at the Salzburger Festspiele to sing Don Ottavio if Muti did not like his singing.

If you don't like singing with balls, that I, together with most of the people who like it, suit yourself.

[David45NV1]

@ciociosan I don't care about other people, I have my own ears and my own eyes. I dislike vulgarity in Mozart interpretations. You are free to enjoy it.

[ciociosan]

@David45NV1 If you do not care about other people then leave me alone.

For the record, you were the one who made a comment on my comment. I did not ask you to do so.

If you can sing as beautifully, or as vulgar as Mr. Beczala, then post a video of your singing.

If not, leave us, people who like Beczala, including Maestro Muti, alone.

You have no idea how stupid your comments look like. And moreover, you just made a fool of yourself by making insipid comments.

[David45NV1]

@ciociosan I prefer not qualify your comments. This is a public place and not a private room. Are you aware that a singer performs for the audience and not for himself? I am part of the audience and as such I am expressing my opinion on a rendition unworthy for the Opernhaus Zürich.

Regarding your previous comments I suggest leaving Maestro Muti’s name out since you are just misusing his name to justify your own opinion. I am sure he doesn’t need your help to express himself.

[ciociosan]

@David45NV1 I have to include Maestro Muti because he has the final word when it comes to hiring artists who are involved in the Salzburger Festspiele. I am merely saying that there is a reason why Beczala was hired.

Again, if you think that I am misusing Muti's name to justify my opinion, suit yourself.

I DID NOT ASK YOU TO COMMENT ON MY COMMENT.

[David45NV1]

@ciociosan this is a public place and I can comment on whatever is posted or stated here, same as you.

Deliberately you are avoiding considering that the reason for hiring Beczala 2006 in Salzburg, could have been that there was no other solution available. Beczala was replaced by Pavol Breslik after 2006 which indicates Beczala was not further required. Breslik was again replaced 2010 by Joel Prieto being Prieto the only one of the three who was asked to continue with the role..

[ciociosan]

@David45NV1 Beczala si still engaged with the Salzburger Festspiele this year not for a Mozart opera but for Boheme. Clearly, they still like his work because they still hire him.

Nope, I am not avoiding the possibility that there could have been no other replacement in 2006 production.

Say whatever you want to say.

[David45NV1]

@ciociosan IMO Piotr Beczala is today's best Duque, best Alfredo, best Edgardo and best Lenski. He should be singing those roles all over the world. However I am afraid it is too early for Puccini. His performances at the Met revealed unsolved vocal problems which might cause on the long run damage to his voice and reputation (see Villazon and Alagna).

[ciociosan]

@David45NV1 But the fact remains: he's getting hired to sing the roles, which in your opinion, should not be singing.

[David45NV1]

@ciociosan Most theatres hire what they need regardless it is good or bad for the Singer's future. They can afford to burn singers because they will just take the next one. Villazon is burned and Kaufmann has the big roles now and he will survive longer. If he could manage three roles during the Festival he would have signed also for La Boheme but that is even for JK, too much. Villazon was given instead a role which is not so exposed just because he

has a conrtact with the DG..

[David45NV1]

@ciociosan Beczala is burned as Mozart Tenor. Joel Prieto is the shooting star and it seems his management is taking better care of his career.

[maestoso1]

@David45NV1 You have made some good points. But consider this: Domingo sings Mozart quite well though certainly not in the tradition of Wunderlich. Beczala's voice potentially has a lot more lyricism than Domingo's, and thus, I had expected a very lyrical rendition of this aria, which I still think he is capable of.

[David45NV1]

@maestoso1 I agree with you, Beczala has more vocal potential than Domingo ever had but his technique is still far away of beeing perfect and it seems he doesn't have the right coaching. That is the reason why he can not transmit the richness of Mozart's music.

[maestoso1]

@David45NV1 Beczala no doubt has balls and can use them here but not at the expense of his vocal placement, which is usually excellent but clearly suffered here, and beautiful lines he otherwise would have produced. I wonder if it is his technique or coaching. kinda unfortunate. Wunderlich set such high standards, didn't he?

[David45NV1]

@maestoso1 IMO it is both: lack of proper technique and wrong coaching. Beczala has an excellent voice with a natural placement of the central register but the support is not well developed, therefore he escapes in yealling when he must sing in the passagio (what some people confuse with "balls"). His voice is at the moment excellent for some Verdi and Donizetti or similar roles but not for Mozart or Puccini where perfect developed support and more sense for style are required.

[casmeis]

Piotr Beczala -- can't get enough of this magnificent tenor, in the great tradition of his countryman of an earlier era -- Jean de Reszke. Thanks a lot for posting this excerpt of what looks like an innovative Zurich production.

[dalferr]

Bravo Beczala!!!