German Government admits participation in ChemTrail experiments

[weldorn]

the overall translation is ok, but it tries too hard in the decisive parts

[KingBigFishtheHL]

Unfortunately folks, this is real. Something similar to this was on Atlanta, Ga local news a few years back. This is just another example of man trying to be god. It's a shame that the very governments we were taught to trust while we were younger are the same organizations that have been commiting acts like these for decades to annihilate the very people that help create them for the "betterment of mankind". Shalom!

[tdebat]

disrupt radar signals like haarp?

[calitza]

wtf...why would they do this???

[RealPantin]

Thumb down if you know German and this is not a proper translation

[RealPantin]

Thumb up if you know German and this is the real translation

[beachcomber2008]

You are still pretending that the text in your video purports to account for what is spoken there

You have been told about this many times yet you continue to publish this LIE

Isn't the truth good enough for you?

What is so special about you that you feel free to tell lies to others?

Why are you LYING?

What advantage is it that you think you will gain?

What is "DUEPPEL"? What English word does it translate to?

[brainphreak]

@beachcomber2008 - You remind me of my kid when she was 9 years old, would yell things like "I dont want to" over and over with no other info. You on the other hand yell "liar" and "lying" over and over again without any info. Seriously grow up haha. Yelling "liar" over and over doesn't make it true, you should know this by now?

Why are you a purple goat? Why do you have horns on your head? why do you eat clothes? Why are you a goat? why are you purple?

See I can do it too :) haha

[beachcomber2008]

@brainphreak "Dueppel" translates as CHAFF. Chaff is used to generate spurious radar images, and comprises strips of aluminum or zinc-coated strips of plastic film - like TINSEL

Brandt is merely angry that his weather forecasting was ruined by a radar trail which he accused the German govt of dropping. But they hadn't

It was a high altitude persistent trail left by two Dutch aircraft on a training mission

Then TWO LIARS turned up on the story, "Tankerenemy" & YOU

I'm happy to clear that up 4 U

[brainphreak]

@beachcomber2008 - thanks for the clarification, this is exactly what we are saying. Maybe there is a language problem here for you. Chemtrails are said to be 'trails' of particles or 'chemicals' which are sprayed into the air. The reason for these trails is debatable, some say weather manipulation (in government bills), some say its population reduction, many theories. It sounds to me that you admit its strips of aluminum, zinc and plastic. These are chemicals in trails, That is 'chemtrails'.

[beachcomber2008]

@brainphreak If you study the video no-one said "chemtrails". Tankerenemy wrote it and you wrote it, but no-one SAID that word

Chaff was invented separately in England and Germany round about 1939. Are you suggestibg that was the start of the "chemtrail program"?

So, you have come up TWO LIES so far

Do you have any more?

[brainphreak]

@beachcomber2008 - In the english language there are several ways to describe a scientific fact. If I saw, the air is moist.. I could say 'there is water in the air". this is how english language works. When we say there is chemtrails, this means that planes are leaving trails of chemical. You are only arguing now that aluminum zinc and plastic are not chemicals. I didn't invent the definition of chemicals, trails, or chemtrails. When someone is dropping chemicals into the air, we say chemtrail

[brainphreak]

@beachcomber2008 - If chemicals were dropped out of airplanes in 1939, yes I would say that was a chemtrail. Again I didn't invent the english language, so your semantic arguments are pointless. In chemistry, a chemical substance is a material with a specific chemical composition. In English a trail means 'to lag or linger behind'. Therefore 1999, 2021, 1939, no matter what year... The term holds true, dropping chemicals from a plane is called a "chemtrail" why are you upset at proper english?

[beachcomber2008]

@brainphreak Water and carbon dioxide are compounds with specific compositions which are given off by aircraft, cars, and YOU

They are chemicals too. Almost EVERYTHING is, save for the few raw elemental gases and the dense element metals. YOU are "chemicals"

Quit coyly hiding in non-specificity and show me EVIDENCE

[brainphreak]

@beachcomber2008 - You are beginning to bore me. Why the lecture now on carbon dioxide? This is irrelevant. Why are you here? What question do you have? Anything specific? or just like to throw tantrums on youtube comments while screaming "your a liar"!? I am saying they are chemtrails, chemical trails. Do you dispute this? If so... explain... if not, than what do you dispute? What is your complaint? question? Arent you tired of repeating yourself and changing the definition of chemtrail?

[beachcomber2008]

@brainphreak I'm sorry I'm boring you, and apologize for not apparently having come to the point

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How, exactly, do YOU define a chemtrail?

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Where, exactly, is the EVIDENCE for chemical trails?

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Where, exactly, did the German gov't ADMIT "participation in ChemTrail experiments"?

[brainphreak]

@beachcomber2008 - 1) You are kidding me right? I just spent several posts with definitions from wikipedia and the dictionary to clearly define chemtrails for you. Did you not read them? chemical + trail = chemtrail. I do not define the english language or variants of, I use books/internet and dictionaries which already define them. 2) Evidence for chemtrails is outside the realm of this video, try googling it. 3) when they admitted to using chaff (a chem) and disrupting the weather readings

[beachcomber2008]

@brainphreak I get you. So planes, cars, and YOU leave a chemtrail everywhere, and

"German Government admits participation in ChemTrail experiments" is NOT within your video

The same "chemical" as CHAFF is used to pack your food in supermarkets

So you are saying the title of your video is not your video, that food wrapper material is "chemical" if it falls out of airplanes - what ARE you saying?

And bravo for the non-answers so far

[brainphreak]

@beachcomber2008 - Scientifically speaking yes, all those things could leave types of chemtrails. The difference being one is a natural bi-product of the fuel while others such as 'CHAFF' (vague), are man made chemtrails made for the purpose of deliberately delivering them into the atmosphere. Food wrapper material is often made of chemicals yes. Falling from the sky, sitting on a shelf or not, this remains true. Using a chemical for one thing, does not make it safe for all things.

[beachcomber2008]

@brainphreak Scientifically? By your OWN definition they ALWAYS DO, What do you mean, "could"?

And this "chemical" idea of yours MUST come to an end. The science of CHEMISTRY is the study of the REACTIVITY of "chemicals", and this reactivity varies from COMPLETE to NOTHING AT ALL, depending upon temperature and electron physics. other compounds present, and catalysts

Chaff is UNREACTIVE and too coarse a material to inhale so let's not pretend it's dangerous, shall we?

[brainphreak]

@beachcomber2008 - Only straw men and logical fallacies fill your posts. If it is safe to breathe air, this does not mean it is safe to inject it into your bloodstream. If it is safe to use aluminum for your soda can to drink out of (debatable), this does not mean you should be breathing it in. Your idea that because components of a chemtrail can be found in a food container, that makes it safe to spray, is illogical. You wouldnt want to eat a food container, or melt it and breath it in either.

[beachcomber2008]

@brainphreak You have already demonstrated that you don't know what a straw man is while using it quite deliberately here - how disingenuous of you

It wasn't my idea, but yours. I merely asked whether food wrapper material was "chemical" if it fell from a plane

I don't need you tell me either that you can drown in water you drink

But I do need you to tell me WHAT is "sprayed", HOW it is "sprayed" and WHERE it is "sprayed", now U mention the word SPRAY

It seems ESSENTIAL to me to be SPECIFIC here

[brainphreak]

@beachcomber2008 - Your first statements contradicts itself. I never made any mention of food wrappers, that is completely irrelevant as I already stated. Yes food wrappers are often made up of chemicals as I said... This next statement is why I don't believe you are genuine. What is being sprayed? You said yourself its Chaff. Assuming that's what it is, it is being sprayed into the air just as guns spray bullets into the air on new years day. Where? the air... Need coordinates? yes sprayed.

[beachcomber2008]

@brainphreak I didn't say it was chaff. Karsten Brandt did

If you try reading my posts properly you'll discover to your surprise that I suggest it was a high-altitude persistent contrail released inadvertently by two Dutch Eurofighters

They could easily make eight cubic miles of contrails

But NOT eight cubic miles of CHAFF "clouds"

They carry KILOS of chaff, not TONNES of chaff

They're not BIG planes

Brandy was pissed because he saw the radar & predicted RAIN

But falling trails ALWAYS evaporate

[mateous11]

@brainphreak , chemtrails is a global real operation and the goverments know about it & some of them had already admitted it. I have a 128 PDF pages file with all the programms in duty and very compelling indeed -with names, surmanes..!! Ask me for them in prvt. message.

So please, beachbomber2008 do your homework on Chemtrails or just look up to the sky..

Goverments are not your friend...thats fact..!!

[beachcomber2008]

You write "German authorities admitted putting chemicals into the air for government experiments"

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Could you supply us with the proof of this, please?

[MrGopherhead]

The particles discussed in this video are fairly large and don't stay in the air very long or leave "trails" in the sky. They are two different things.

[lisahenkes]

They are saying both: there are particles being released by military planes AND that the data on the meteorological maps is being changed/distorted. I live in Holland and have noticed that nightly news TV weather report NEVER shows the actual meteorological satellite views anymore. I can't even find them online. Now all I find are satellite views which have been PROCESSED.

[heada069]

the translation is wrong! this is chaff! greetz from germany

[derfilmmacher]

Perhaps this is an attempt to regain air superiority from the UFOs.

[Dolflu]

German has now its last attempt to explane its military and political stands and report it to the real war tribunal and do it.

[gangstanikes]

i haven't seen any lately here in Dallas, but during the winter they were everywhere.

[brainphreak]

"although the army claims that only small amounts of material were propagated. The military heads claim the substances used are not harmful"

To me that sounds as clear as day like they dropped materials into the sky as they admit... now the only REAL question is, is it harmful? I think most know the answer to that... metals in the air, toxins sprayed from planes etc. are not good for you. They also state that with 97% certainty the map disruptions were cause by "fine dust of polymers and metal"

[oliver21berlin]

translation is definately wrong!

often they translate "wetter-karten-manipulation" into "weather-manipulation"... but the word "karten" (maps in english) makes a TOTALLY NEW MEANING!!

so, what they admit is just the disturbance for the meteologists, cause of new techniques of the army. nobody has ever seen or feel such a "cloud" it's just a thing inside computers...

i doubt that this was an accident...

the translation is so damn wrong, that i guess it was the aim of the video.

[brainphreak]

unless I am mistaken, you are basically saying that they are talking about disturbances in the weather maps... these disturbances are caused by real things, not just a computer glitch. Regardless of new or old techniques the army uses, it should not effect the weather map unless it is effecting weather correct? They are measuring weather not military tactics... so if the weather map is different due to military, regardless of the cause, it still shows that the weather is manipulated by them no?

[MrGopherhead]

@brainphreak Wrong dumbass, they are talking about chaff which does nothing to the weather is simply disrupts the radar causing a radar image that is similar to a weather return ( a false image) that is what it is designed to do, cause a false image and prevent radar detection of what is actually there.

[brainphreak]

@MrGopherhead - not sure why I decided to respond to such a childish response. However I just wanted to point out the fact that you are saying "wrong" then you say, instead it is for the purpose to "cause a false image and prevent radar detection of what is actually there. ". I think that most people are arguing that the radar scenes/animations are incorrect and false images... You are saying NO you disagree and then say confirm the exact thing, they are false images hiding whats really there?

[MrGopherhead]

@brainphreak Most people are claiming that the military is releasing a chemical that is creating a change in weather that is showing up on radar. That is incorrect. They are releasing "chaff" which contains metal that the radar signal bounces off of causing a return that appears as a weather system on their radar when there isn't a weather system present. Not the same thing at all

[brainphreak]

@MrGopherhead - Here is a quote from another youtuber:

"They are saying both: there are particles being released by military planes AND that the data on the meteorological maps is being changed/distorted. I live in Holland and have noticed that nightly news TV weather report NEVER shows the actual meteorological satellite views anymore. "

Also keep in mind that this metal that is released into the atmosphere will effect weather as well, even thin reflective layers effect the solar rays.

[MrGopherhead]

@brainphreak The metal in chaff does not affect the weather. It falls to the ground in a short period of time.

[brainphreak]

@MrGopherhead - I also want to mention to look up the HAARP project. There is actual documents on file explaining that they will drop metal pieces in the air to help with communication, weather, etc. manipulation of the ionesphere. Why they do it is debatable, but its factually occurring.

[MrGopherhead]

@brainphreak I am an aircraft for over 24 years, I have worked on radio and radar systems as long as i've been a mechanic. I believe the "metal in the air" is a bunch of BS from someone that know absolutely nothing about RF signals. This simply is not how RF signals work. Metal in the atmosphere blocks RF signals and would make the system much less effecient or completely useless, not the other way around.

[brainphreak]

@MrGopherhead - This is not true at all, apparently aircraft professional does not make you an Electronics Enginer (which luckily I am!). Rf signals are mostly line of sight and would for all intents and purposes shoot right into outer space. The ionosphere already has a TON of metal particles in it, this helps reflect those radio waves INSIDE the atmosphere and allows them to travel much much farther rather than disappearing into outer space.More particles = more reflection = better propogation

[MrGopherhead]

@brainphreak If you are an electronics engineer you would recognize the error in your comments. Aircraft do not fly in the ionosphere. At the lower altitudes where planes fly the metal particles would act to scatter the RF signals randomly unlike the uniform propogation you are describing with the particles in the ionosphere as you described. They form a layer that reflects the signals around the curvature of the earth. At lower altitudes they form a barrier.

[brainphreak]

@MrGopherhead - I did not once claim aircraft fly in the ionosphere, this is not my area of expertise. This is what is referred to as a 'straw man' argument. AKA putting words in my mouth (or keyboard).

Why not just read the HAARP site and mainstream news to see that metal is being put into the atmosphere. There is even a US bill in congress which allows this to take place. There is full explanation of using this method also to combat 'global warming'. Lots of documents if you just look.

[brainphreak]

@MrGopherhead - From mainstream CBS news: "The simplest solution is to put into the high atmosphere small particles which scatter away 1 or 2% of the sunlight...the sooner the better."

Check the haarp alaska website, it explains the ionosphere and its manipulation much better than I can.

haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/ion1.ht­ml

[MrGopherhead]

@brainphreak Yes I have heard this dozens of times. Something proposed has nothing to do with the trails in the sky that have been recorded for over 90 years. It will never happen anyway the EPA is never going to allow it to happen.

[brainphreak]

@MrGopherhead - You are far too trusting if you think the EPA is out to protect you from the government and corporations... Just ask the first responders who helped rescue those at the WTC on 9/11. The EPA at times even FORCED them to take OFF the masks.. Because it would SCARE the public, and the air was PERFECTLY safe to breath... They now retract that and apologize for the deaths.

Do you also expect the FDA to protect you from bad drugs? Even with all the recalls? The EPA will do nothing.

[MrGopherhead]

@brainphreak Who said I trusted the EPA or anyone else. whether you trust them or not, I was simply telling you they weren't going to let it happen in my opinion.

[brainphreak]

BTW those toxic cloud coming from jets, even normal gas fumes, are harmful to our health... yet the EPA allows it... They also classify CO2 as a dangerous pollutant, yet you are breathing right now without them stopping you... The EPA,FDA, CPS, etc. are really just a false sense of security... Kids are still abused, drugs still kill you and have lack of testing, and the air quality is still being RUINED by corporations without any problem. The EPA gives 2 shits about you :)

[MrGopherhead]

@brainphreak They are not gas fumes. the exhaust is far less harmful that the exhaust from automobiles as jets are far more effecient.

[brainphreak]

@MrGopherhead - Spoken like a true politician :) You do know that efficiency is not directly attached to pollution right? You can have something far more efficient, still cause pollution. You should do a search for "Impacts of jet air pollution on health". The only thing making it more efficient is the fact its using FAR MORE fuel per second, and holds more people. So maybe less pollution per gallon, but far more gallons, and pollution per second compared to a car.

[MrGopherhead]

@brainphreak Wrong as usual, I wouldn't expect a chemtard to understand or even be able to do a search on jet engines. jets operate on a continuous thermodymanic cycle. That means that intake, compression, combustion and exhaust cycles that occur in a 4 cycle engine occurs continuously and not in cycles like a 4 cycle engine. that alone makes a jet far more effecient at burning fuel with the least amount of unburned fuel in the exhaust. Commercial aircraft operate on JP-4

[brainphreak]

Wrong as usual? You have yet to provide evidence or proof of any statement I have said that is wrong. You instead create a strawman by disagreeing with something i never said.... This is the number one method for those losing a debate. Cant argue with something I say, so you must argue with something I didn't say. Unlike 2 adults debating, you decide to add childish comments like "chemtard" "stupid" .

Those things make you feel grown up I guess. Go spam someone else, the EPA will save you :)

[MrGopherhead]

@brainphreak The operating temperature is far higher than a gas engine also , this ensures more complete burning of the fuel. Your comparison to a car is absolute B.S. How many cars carry 200 people? How many planes are there compared to cars? Cars produce much more pollution that aircraft that is a proven fact. Pretending to be stupid won't change that .

[brainphreak]

@MrGopherhead - Although I fully enjoy laughing at your straw man arguments. I think you have made it plainly obvious you are not one to have a normal conversation. You apparently rely on lies and insults to try and prove your non existent point. "chemtard"? What are you age 12?

I wrote "The only thing making it more efficient is the fact its using FAR MORE fuel per second, and holds more people"

You disagree by saying "How many cars carry 200 people?]"

Go look up "straw man" little one :)

[ogremeister1]

@MrGopherhead The EPA wouldn't let it happen? Are you serious?! Maybe you should look into the agency you think is protecting you!

"Efficient" is mostly used as a comparative term. Jets put out a LOT of pollution per gallon, but when you put 400 people on a plane it's less per person per mile than a gas car. Diesel is more efficient for MPG, but pollutes more per gallon. So try to look at the bigger picture when hearing these things.

[brainphreak]

Assuming that every single of the words "wetter-karten-manipulation" meant map manipulation instead of actual weather... the article still has the same outcome and objective? If that one thing was translated completely wrong, it still doesnt change the context of the story.. not sure what your trying to say... Are you trying to say that the military has never manipulated the weather? And there are not ongoing missions/objectives of doing so? Not sure what your point is... I didnt translate BTW

[skinnychef]

wow! they admit it!