@idnurxx He gave him room? He DIDN'T move to the right, he even moved to the LEFT! Yes it is racing, but when someone is next to you this far, there is no point anymore in trying to stop him overtaking you, it's a done deal! Vettel couldn't move anymore to the left, can't you see the asphalt is stopping there? Webber should have given him some more room and should have tried overtaking him in the next corner. THAT would have been racing. And the nazi thing is just to dumb to even go about...
Honesty Vettel should actually have gone right first, allowed webber to block him and then gone left and due to the rules not allowed a driver to cut across the track twice, Webber would not have been able to block him again. The rest is impossible to predict.
I think both drivers are at fault but from all the hate people are giving Vettel i am feeling sorry for him. And subsequently starting to dislike Webber. But thats not his fault, just his fans.
how very disappointing. I hope somehow the two can get past this they both are talented drivers; it has happened and there isn't anything they can do about it now.
@devilruski There is no need for this sort of comment. Yes Vettel is stupid to behave the way he did (& still is by the way) but seriously you only denigrate yourself using that language, and you definitely don't help Mark either. He has to battle both Vettel & the Team management as it is.
Die cast, 100% Vettel's fault. Fact 1: Webber drove in a straight line (didn't have to, could've blocked him). Fact 2: Vettel TURNED RIGHT into him. End. Of. Story.
Little shit needs his head examined. The even bigger travesty is Christian Horner's post race comments that suggested Webber did something wrong. Well Vettel may be the coming kid, and it seems the team favour him, but Webber is tougher and will beat him anyway.
There where no fuel saving concerns, Red Bull just don't want a 34 year old trying to beat their wizz kid. Remeber Vettel running up the back of Webber in the rain in China. This kid needs to get a head on his shoulders, Spoilt little rich kid.
@PESandFIFA He had to move right to setup for the apex on the next corner, thus mark webber should have given him more room. webber needs to learn that racing against you teammate is different from racing other drivers.
@aieljose Yes ofcourse it's true but i think it's nobody his fault. It's a true racing crash even when they are teammates but i would pul that action only in the last weeks of F1 to win the title.
It' Vettels fault webber moved over and let him pass vettels an idiot his move was uncalled for and it could have been a 1,2 finish for RBR if vettel hadn't pulled that move
This is clearly Vettels fault, webber was actually moving over, Vettel couldn't control his car and twitched into Webber, Webber was at least, in the middle of the track, I bet Webber was thinking "what the heck is he doing..."
Slow the vid down and you will see this is 100% a Vettel error.
vettel moved right too early, not webber's fault, but he could have avoided the accident if he wanted to...before this they were teammates, from now on they are enemies.....
look where Hamilton is at a similar position into that corner that's where Webber would have been if Vettel hadn't been along side him on the inside, Webber chose to squeeze him and give him no room at that speed into a corner i don't blame Vettel. If they weren't team mates, this would be at least 50% Webber with little question.
Seb's rear wheel hit Mark's front. In front = right of way.
Mark should've made him go around the outside.. then he could slow him in the next left. Just run him a bit deep. Mark opened the door slightly, which is a bit silly when the guy is right under your rear wing. I guess conversely Seb could've stayed on the same line and run webber deep. Meh. It's all history now. The end result is Mark was lucky to grab third…
..vettel didn't hit webber..this situation apply physic.there's one law that state d higher velocity, d lower the pressure is..when both webber's & vettel's car on side-by-side, the velocity of d wind in between the car is so high that it reduced d air pressure of the air between d car, which in turns d atmospheric pressure press the car closser frm the outside and cause it to collide.this situation is simillar as when a bus juz past u at high speed, u'd feel like u've been pull to it..
Seb is an excellent driver who had already presented himself to Webber with half a car length's lead. At that turn, the racing line takes you to the right to set up for the left hander. Seb began a slight move to the right expecting Webber to yield space which he SHOULD HAVE DONE. By pinching off Seb, Webber was at fault by failing to yield space....just like the McLarens properly did a few laps later......
It always easy to be an armchair expert. I think Mark should've either covered the inside better, or let Seb past. Initially I was "all Seb's fault"; now I think not so much. Clearly Seb was well alongside and Mark chose not to move over. It's your team mate, you make room. Like I say.. very easy to sit here and armchair-expert the thing.
If Mark's honest he'll know he's probably slightly more "in the wrong" than Seb. c'mon Mark, keep it together dude. Eye on the cup n'all that.
This Vettel is a motherfuckin dumbass. As the faster car, it's his responsibility to stay away from the person being passed. If I was Webber, i'd be punching Vettel.
It was 100% Vettels fault, he had plenty of room but decided to turn into Webbers car. The fact is they are both racing for the championship, if Webber was to just move, and make it easy for Vettel to pass, thats just like Webber handing the world championship trophy to him.
Watch the steering wheels - Vettel turns into Webber. No wonder Vettel makes the crazy sign - he tried a crazy maneuver that nearly took them both out.
i don't think vettel was to blame on his own..it's all about communication..in a sport where they can communicate so easily , they could atleast tell webber to give him more space...
Big Fail on Red Bull Team , no driver rides on it's own , when something goes wrong it's the team's fault , not the driver's .
Webber's car was in fuel saving mode, in fact he was first for all the race and spent more fuel. Vettel had just 1 lap with the car without saving mode, so he tried overtaking, but in this way it was very stupid and the only one crazy here is him. He ruined his race and because of him webber lost 2 positions. He lost 15 point on webber instead of 7 he would lose if he arrived second, and red bull took 15 points instead of 43
Mark Webber is to Blame for not giving Vettel enough room even when he saw him moving over. But Vettel is also to Blame for moving across like that, Vettel is just like the old Schumacher, these things do happen. But I could sense that it was bound to happen sometime soon. Number One Rule in Motorsport, Never Take Out Your Team Mate. Remember Senna vs Prost in Suzuka Japan 1989.
@DextraKiedis true, but in vettel's defence webber didn't give him much room. He had alot more room to give and should have given it because you have to give your teammates more respect than other racers to avoid stuff like this. If webber would have given more room, this probably wouldn't of happened.
@aieljose Well, if you have to give your teammates respect, than Vettel shouldn´t even think about attacking Webber, when he was in fuel saving mode. If the team was so afraid of Hamilton, why they´d told Webber to slow down? Webber gave him some room as you can see, unfortunately the turn was coming and Vettel turned the car to the right too quick. I guess this accident happened because of too much ego on both sides.
@DextraKiedis webber was told to slow down because of fuel consumption issues. There's nothing wrong with vettel trying to pass webber as it is after all a race. I just think webber should have given him more room. If you look at 1:47 you can see what i mean. Webber has tons of room to give but decides to stay on the middle of the road. Stupid.
@aieljose Cause Vettel had enough space, so he decided not to give him any more room. He couldn't expect Vettel turn right into him. The first thing is not to race with your teammate if he´s not having any serious problems with the car. (many top drivers first ask the team "Can I really pass him?" to avoid situations like this) So basicaly, Vettel shouldn´t attack. But if he once did... Then what is wrong with Webber fighting for his position? Vettel was not acting like a teammate, Webber too.
@DextraKiedis so you don't think it's ok for teammates to battle for the lead? There's nothing wrong with teammates battling for the lead and trying to pass each other, it's racing. The redbull team said it was webbers fault. If the team say's it's webbers fault then it's webbers fault.
if i were mark webber i would go and kill vettel , it's a really newbie mistake by vettel. redbull could take a double but vettel destroys it all with a stupid overtake , and that's not all of it... it could end with a disaster, somebody could be hurt.
The more important issue from this race and this incident isn't who is to blame for the crash. Both drivers were partially to blame. The important issue is that Vettel is clearly being favoured by the Redbull team. Webber was told to go into fuel saving mode, and Vettel turned his engine up. Redbull team wanted Vettel to overtake Webber (team orders) and blamed Webber for the crash.
Vettel = spoiled brat darling of Redbull Racing. Maybe he is Helmut Marko's lovechild.
The more important issue from this race and this incident isn't who is to blame for the crash. Both drivers were partially to blame. The important issue is that Vettel is clearly being favoured by the Redbull team. Webber was told to go into fuel saving mode, and Vettel turned his engine up. Redbull team wanted Vettel to overtake Webber (team orders) and blamed Webber for the crash.
Vettel = spoiled brat darling of Redbull Racing. Maybe he is Helmut Marko's lovechild.
The more important issue from this race and this incident isn't who is to blame for the crash. Both drivers were partially to blame. The important issue is that Vettel is clearly being favoured by the Redbull team. Webber was told to go into fuel saving mode, and Vettel turned his engine up. Redbull team wanted Vettel to overtake Webber (team orders) and blamed Webber for the crash.
Vettel = spoiled brat darling of Redbull Racing. Maybe he is Helmut Marko's lovechild.
The more important issue from this race and this incident isn't who is to blame for the crash. Both drivers were partially to blame. The important issue is that Vettel is clearly being favoured by the Redbull team. Webber was told to go into fuel saving mode, and Vettel turned his engine up. Redbull team wanted Vettel to overtake Webber (team orders) and blamed Webber for the crash.
Vettel = spoiled brat darling of Redbull Racing. Maybe he is Helmut Marko's lovechild.
The more important issue from this race and this incident isn't who is to blame for the crash. Both drivers were partially to blame. The important issue is that Vettel is clearly being favoured by the Redbull team. Webber was told to go into fuel saving mode, and Vettel turned his engine up. Redbull team wanted Vettel to overtake Webber (team orders) and blamed Webber for the crash.
Vettel = spoiled brat darling of Redbull Racing. Maybe he is Helmut Marko's lovechild.
It is very strange that Red Bull came up with an excusse that Vettel was right because Hamilton was getting close and he had to overtake Webber otherwise Hamilton would pass Vettel and that just a couple of corners before Vettel's move they ask Webber to change the engine mapping to save fuel (reducing top end's speed). And on top of that Helmut Marko says that Vettle was faster because of the tires.
Smells like Red Bull Crap to me...Vettel crying baby, u ran over Webber
watch the gap between vettel's wheel and the white line, it constantly increases meaning vettel was coming across the track to the right and into webber. also watch webber's steering wheel when vettel is beside him, several times he is giving little adjustments to the right to give vettel more room and keep out of his path.
@Pompyroftw How was it his fault when he gave him room for a car to move he didn't cut in on Vettel he was allowed to stay where he was. Vettel accross the front randomly. What did Webber do he is allowed to race him esspcailly for the lead and championship.
@CraigA43 look where Hamilton is at a similar position into that corner that's where Webber would have been if Vettel hadn't been along side him on the inside, Webber chose to squeeze him and give him no room at that speed into a corner i don't blame Vettel. If they weren't team mates, this would be at least 50% Webber with little question.
@CraigA43 simply...he didn't leave room for Vettel. Vettel was driving on the grass before they touched...that was uncalled for. It would be a dirty move if he did it to someone else, but to his team mate...
Vettel did bear some fault for it tough, he did the same thing to Hamilton in China
@Ic3m4nSi OMG I am sick of people saying that he was on the grass. Look at the footage, he was on the white line, which is the road, not the grass! Get it right...
@HSVLVR oh,i'm sorry, Mr. get it iright, i forgot that there's sand on the middle of the track so puffs of dust fly into the air, like it did at 0:24. I'm pin'n all the blame on webber now, just to piss you off ;)
@Pompyroftw ...and so are Lewis Hamilton, Nico Rosberg, Alex Wurz, Martin Brundle, David Coulthard and Niki Lauda, right? Becuse they all said Vettel is the one to blame.
it is clear in this video that Vettel came down the inside which was dirty line going into the corner. it was vettel's fault as we can see that he turned into Mark just before the breaking point. Anyways Mark is still leading the championship and is 15 points ahead of his teammate which is good. And Webber has won alot of fans with his reactions after the incident. As campared to Vettel, Webber stayed calm and came out of the race with third place.
Anyone who thinks this was Webbers fault....is absolutely beyond question a fucking retard. Look at the actualy moment Vettel and Webber collide, Vettel has at least two car lengths to the left of him to go into, but he quite ovbiosuly moves too quick to the right.
1:43 - 1:46 Webber clearly squeezed Vettel. If they had not touched the very next corner would have enden in tears anyway. What was Webber thinking if at all?
@ackkhk it was vettels fasult u can see he turns into him to push him across the track all the commentators even say vettels fault webber was defending his lead at the accident vettel wqas leading but he had not completed the move and tried to push webber across to make room so he he wouldnt run wide at the corner and loss the position webber was also in fuel saver mode vettel wasnt but he was ment to be
See the onboard cam of Vettel, the "right move" was very slightly. He definitly knew and got enough time to acknowledge Vettel was pushing him away, in front of him. But Webber choosed to hold the line deadly waiting him to crash.
But, if you see the cam from the audience, Vettel's seems snap to Webber hardly.
In fact, that "sudden right move" results from the crash, not an active nor aggressive move from Vettel.
@ackkhk Webber had the right to defend the line, Vettel simply tried to pull off an overtaking maneuver which was impossible unless the driver in front was going to give way, and why should Webber give way, they were fighting for P1 and the Championship.
Webber gave Vettel enough room to back off, Vettel was faster and could have tried again, but he wanted to make it stick then as he knew that he only had an advantage for a short time.
@ackkhk these car are so sensative that even the slightes move on the sterring wheel turns u alot vettel was at fault he turned into webber and u can c from webbers cam that he tries to avoide it these cars run side by side like this all the time when overtaking the aero was not at play
Vettel is getting very nervous because his teammate is faster then him,3 polepositions in a row don't lie,go Mark,i hope you become the next worldchampion.
Vettel went right, but Webber swa, that Vettel was much faster and he should had made more space...Vettel was almost through and Webber provocated this crash
How can Hamilton say that he deserved the win. It was Red Bull who was the fastest, Vettel just went crazy for a second. This is how I see this. Vettel gets beaten by webber in SPain and in Monaco. THen in turkey Webber is faster again and Vettel can't take the pressure from Hamilton. So he tried to overtake his teammate in a incredible action. Only snap he thought he was clear whilst Webber was around his right wheel. The rest is history.
@marpetpet during the interview after the race with the top 3. Hamilton said that it was a great team effort blabla. And he said that "it was truly deserved". Then after that he started to say about the Vettel-Webber crash and about the thing that you mentioned.
I agree with what Coulthard said about accumulating pressure resulting in a slip up - at the end of the day Vettel pulled across too early before clearing Webber's car. Nail biting looking at Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button going head to head... was anyone else here waiting for a similar incident to happen ?!?!?!??
it was Weber fault cause he was outside and he was behind in that moment. Race rules are strict, if you are outside and opponent's front tires are in your line you have to give him some space. Not to mention Vettel is his team mate. So shameful for red bull no matter which fault was that. :(
Clearly Webber didn't give that space they're supposed to give each other as the team talks about it. Vettel was faster and ahead, webber didn't leave any space. That's it.
@lookfilms - why should Webber leave space? It is not a charity run, it is a RACE!! And just becasue a car is faster, does not mean you have to let it pass... that's called RACING!
Webber didnt let Vettel space, so they got too close together and aerodynamics caused the cars to move together.. vettel is not so fucked in head (like for instance Alonso) to cause this just because webber is better,
yes webber did hold the line as nooone is near him, but there was, and he should let space for Vettel
@dnch No the aerodynamics did not pull the cars together, Webber defended the corner and Vettel wen up the inside, there was room for vettel but he snapped right to get a better line and hit Webber... It was a rookey mistake by Vettel, Webber did nothing wrong!
@xNoReligionx i dont see no "snap" by vettel, he just gets to better place to get into the corner (you never get to corner from inside) and he let space right to him for Webber, Webber went like noone is near him (maybe he is too used to be 30 seconds ahead anyone else)
and how the hell is he defending a corner when he clearly is behind Vettel?
@dnch he left him space on th right vettel went up the inside where there was less room but enough. and vettel turned into him it was not the aero vettel was ahead of him he had no dirty air when he hit him u can see onboard he turns into him
@dnch aerodynamics do not cause cars to come together, its the fact that sebastian moved his wheel right that caused the car to go right haha. and no, he had every right to defend from vettel.
IT IS ON LIKE DONKEY KONG!!!! Webber should have got the win. NICOLE IS HOT if Hamiltopn wants the champ this year he should let all driver fuck her and they will let him win LOL
But Webber gave about a car width to Vettel. If Vettel didn't turn right, most likely Webber would overtake vettel at the next corner. Like how the McClarens battled it out later in the race. So to me, Webber was fair to hold the line and give enough space to vettel. its not like he closed the gap by sharply turning left.
OMG! clearly webber's fault. Vettel's comin up and he's much faster...webber's movin first to the right, then when he realizes he's gonna be passed, he tries to block the german steerin left again...you can't always win webber..and u deserved to be out of the race instead of Vet.
DEFINITELY Vettel's fault. Webber kept the line and tha tis his right. "It is the responsibility of the overtaking driver to complete a clean manoeuvre". The only thing Webber would not have been allowed to do, is pull to the left. Webber did NOT pull to the left, but Vettel moved to the right. Even if Vettel pretends to think differently, he must know that it was his fault. It reminds me of his crash with Kubica in Australia 2009...
No one was wrong, but what Webber did is a very selffish move.
Watch carefully, Webber was not just holding the line throught out the straight, he was getting right for next corner already and get back to left side to block Vettel.
It is not necessary for Webber to hold his line, harass or make any difficulties to Vettel's overtaking, which was much faster, sure overtaking, teammates of him.
@ackkhk - "a very selfish move"... helloooooo: they are racing, competition is all about being selfish. Like you are going to be champion by lying down and letting everyone walk on you!! Webber defended perfectly, Vettel lost his nerve and panicked.
@lookfilms Webber was way off the line, there is nothing wrong with that it's called driving defensively, he did not jink or turn left, he gave Vettel room, but Vettel snapped right to get a better line into the corner= accident!
@ackkhk So a race leader should give up his lead as soon as his team mate asks for it? Vettel feints right first then darts left fast. Webber held his line and did NOT move to block either move. Basically saying to Vettel, if you are good enough to pass me I'll let you through. Didn't block Vettel and stayed in his own line and let Vettel attempt the over take. The fact that Vettel was idiotic and decided to cut right HARD to cut webber off and take Webber's line caused the accident, not Webber.
I thought Red Bull was the perfect place for Webber to drive the rest of his F1 career. Now I think he should he should leave what was my favourite team, and go to Ferrari.
This is the second time Vettel has cost Webber a race win. He has so much more to learn before he can be considered a good driver. So far, he has backed up his good speed with only errors time and time again.
The fact that Red Bull are backing Vettel's side of the story proves they are clearly favouring the German. The entire world can see Vettel crashing into a car holding it's line, yet somehow it's Webbers fault!
in the onboardcamera from webber you can see that he steer a little bit to left and the distance between asphaltedge and vettels car will be smaler.... and so he have to steer right... and as a teammade you have to pass your faster teammade
vettel, vettel, vettel you stupid idiot if you had hold your own line you would had passed webber what so ever. webber could do anything on this. blame: vettel
Vettel is a little upstart trying to intimidate his older team mate. This for first position in the race. No one is expected to yield in these circumstances. Vettel would've had to take inside line if he had taken Webber early which would've resulted in a re-take by Webber. So the cheeky little monkey tries to move into the racing line and is lucky he didn't take them both out and people didn't get hurt. Vettel definitely being studying too many old Schumi vids.
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CrazyManHamster 1 year ago
This isnt the first time vettel has cost webber, search youtube and u will find this hack of a driver running him off the road several times
rooboy69 1 year ago
Vettel you imbecile, you've done it once already to Kubica!!!!! Do you think you've got a title - you fucking far from it
psiemollo 1 year ago
All of you cunts saying its webbers fault dont no shit about racing
Webber gove him a room he was moving to the right slowly vettel thinks he can just shove webber over... fuck you vettel you NAZI fuck
idnurxx 1 year ago
@idnurxx He gave him room? He DIDN'T move to the right, he even moved to the LEFT! Yes it is racing, but when someone is next to you this far, there is no point anymore in trying to stop him overtaking you, it's a done deal! Vettel couldn't move anymore to the left, can't you see the asphalt is stopping there? Webber should have given him some more room and should have tried overtaking him in the next corner. THAT would have been racing. And the nazi thing is just to dumb to even go about...
BoekbeestAndCO 1 year ago
nice vid
KetchupTubeTV 1 year ago
how can people even think of blaiming webber? Vettel turned right into him...
ElGranPikachu 1 year ago
Little bit of inexperience on Vettels part there.
rudolfmanu 1 year ago
Honesty Vettel should actually have gone right first, allowed webber to block him and then gone left and due to the rules not allowed a driver to cut across the track twice, Webber would not have been able to block him again. The rest is impossible to predict.
I think both drivers are at fault but from all the hate people are giving Vettel i am feeling sorry for him. And subsequently starting to dislike Webber. But thats not his fault, just his fans.
Nish2280 1 year ago
Vettel??? che coglione!!!!!!
dinamite67 1 year ago
Obviously it's a Alonso's fault
MrTiub 1 year ago 3
@MrTiub too funny
luke84smeh 1 year ago
how very disappointing. I hope somehow the two can get past this they both are talented drivers; it has happened and there isn't anything they can do about it now.
rushare 1 year ago
plus- GO WEBBER! AUSTRALIA REPRESENT!!!!! :D
rushare 1 year ago
I like the way Jenson still atacked Lewis, real racers =p
xiniks 1 year ago
que guarro el webber, Vetel le habia ganado el interior. Flaco favor de Webber a su equipo Red Bull
MrRAULBCN 1 year ago
FUCK YOU VETTEL, FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU FUCK YOU, go mark :)
devilruski 1 year ago
@devilruski There is no need for this sort of comment. Yes Vettel is stupid to behave the way he did (& still is by the way) but seriously you only denigrate yourself using that language, and you definitely don't help Mark either. He has to battle both Vettel & the Team management as it is.
lunsmann 1 year ago
I think it was getting to Vettel that mark webber is taking the spotlight. greedy, immature kid
Shakezoolamadecoola 1 year ago
the commentator is GOING OFF
W0LFVISI0N 1 year ago
Die cast, 100% Vettel's fault. Fact 1: Webber drove in a straight line (didn't have to, could've blocked him). Fact 2: Vettel TURNED RIGHT into him. End. Of. Story.
Little shit needs his head examined. The even bigger travesty is Christian Horner's post race comments that suggested Webber did something wrong. Well Vettel may be the coming kid, and it seems the team favour him, but Webber is tougher and will beat him anyway.
CNCTEMATIC 1 year ago
wtf Vettel - he is like Hamilton :(
goralxp 1 year ago
Awesome commentary and I can't even understand what they're saying!
longshot14 1 year ago
Farkin Vettel what dick !
WaksON 1 year ago
go webber go !!
TheGizimo 1 year ago
if Vettel tried to pass me like that i'd kill him. Seriously thats a cheap way... and wtf does he think Webber can do when he turns like that to him?
Mamonuth 1 year ago
@Mamonuth i didn't watch it I heard on the sports news I was dissapointed. It was a racing incident :(. Shouldve been a 1 2 finish :(?
TheToyotaRacing47 1 year ago
Well it looks like Vettel turned into Weber,stupid mistake..
mikk8289 1 year ago
they both need to get over themselves it was a racing incident
imbored343 1 year ago
There where no fuel saving concerns, Red Bull just don't want a 34 year old trying to beat their wizz kid. Remeber Vettel running up the back of Webber in the rain in China. This kid needs to get a head on his shoulders, Spoilt little rich kid.
ldsearle 1 year ago 2
wow how awkward afterwards..
likeicarexD 1 year ago
@likeicarexD tell me about. I think Vettle was frustrated, it happens.
SamJar464 1 year ago
Vettel drove to early to the right. The crazy thing is that Webber wasn't so mad when that happend (you know how Webber normally is).
PESandFIFA 1 year ago 2
@PESandFIFA He had to move right to setup for the apex on the next corner, thus mark webber should have given him more room. webber needs to learn that racing against you teammate is different from racing other drivers.
aieljose 1 year ago
@aieljose Yes ofcourse it's true but i think it's nobody his fault. It's a true racing crash even when they are teammates but i would pul that action only in the last weeks of F1 to win the title.
PESandFIFA 1 year ago
Vettels fault he should have seen there wasn't enough room and also if he had not pulled that overtake it would have been a 1,2 finish
mrbtree 1 year ago
You can clearly see that Webber saw Vettel and Vettel drove in to him (look at the onboard cam of Webber) Webber even tried to get away.
PESandFIFA 1 year ago
It' Vettels fault webber moved over and let him pass vettels an idiot his move was uncalled for and it could have been a 1,2 finish for RBR if vettel hadn't pulled that move
mrbtree 1 year ago
This is clearly Vettels fault, webber was actually moving over, Vettel couldn't control his car and twitched into Webber, Webber was at least, in the middle of the track, I bet Webber was thinking "what the heck is he doing..."
Slow the vid down and you will see this is 100% a Vettel error.
darkan99el 1 year ago
vettel moved right too early, not webber's fault, but he could have avoided the accident if he wanted to...before this they were teammates, from now on they are enemies.....
robinleo 1 year ago
lol. I guess webber don't know how to defend his position....ask him to read rules book once.......
gatttermman 1 year ago
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look where Hamilton is at a similar position into that corner that's where Webber would have been if Vettel hadn't been along side him on the inside, Webber chose to squeeze him and give him no room at that speed into a corner i don't blame Vettel. If they weren't team mates, this would be at least 50% Webber with little question.
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Vettel is foolish for risking the championship of the great Mark Webber. What a careless manoever.....
.....But as it turned out, this has given Webber a good lead in the championship. And Vettel has shot himself in the foot. Tee hee.
ExpertCriticism 1 year ago
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Vettel is foolish for risking the championship of the great Mark Webber. What a careless manoever.....
.....But as it turned out, this has given Webber a good lead in the championship. And Vettel has shot himself in the foot. Tee hee.
ExpertCriticism 1 year ago
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Vettel is foolish for risking the championship of the great Mark Webber. What a careless manoever.....
.....But as it turned out, this has given Webber a good lead in the championship. And Vettel has shot himself in the foot. Tee hee.
ExpertCriticism 1 year ago
@BowllowKid
Seb's rear wheel hit Mark's front. In front = right of way.
Mark should've made him go around the outside.. then he could slow him in the next left. Just run him a bit deep. Mark opened the door slightly, which is a bit silly when the guy is right under your rear wing. I guess conversely Seb could've stayed on the same line and run webber deep. Meh. It's all history now. The end result is Mark was lucky to grab third…
71eleven 1 year ago
Vettel(baby schummi) DickHead
his a teenager & jalouz
ibraDiOr 1 year ago
..vettel didn't hit webber..this situation apply physic.there's one law that state d higher velocity, d lower the pressure is..when both webber's & vettel's car on side-by-side, the velocity of d wind in between the car is so high that it reduced d air pressure of the air between d car, which in turns d atmospheric pressure press the car closser frm the outside and cause it to collide.this situation is simillar as when a bus juz past u at high speed, u'd feel like u've been pull to it..
Aizen2uchiha 1 year ago
it was clearly vettel's fault. watch from 1:45, vettel just drives into webber
BowllowKid 1 year ago
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BowllowKid 1 year ago
wait till ferrari unveil their new improved car at valencia. Redesigned diffuser and new chassis. It will own all!
aieljose 1 year ago
Seb is an excellent driver who had already presented himself to Webber with half a car length's lead. At that turn, the racing line takes you to the right to set up for the left hander. Seb began a slight move to the right expecting Webber to yield space which he SHOULD HAVE DONE. By pinching off Seb, Webber was at fault by failing to yield space....just like the McLarens properly did a few laps later......
mhsilver1 1 year ago
@mhsilver1 SHOULD HAVE DONE? WHY?
Pikyfroh 1 year ago
@mhsilver1 well said. I agree 100%
aieljose 1 year ago
way to ruin constructor points :P
ApachyDaro 1 year ago
It always easy to be an armchair expert. I think Mark should've either covered the inside better, or let Seb past. Initially I was "all Seb's fault"; now I think not so much. Clearly Seb was well alongside and Mark chose not to move over. It's your team mate, you make room. Like I say.. very easy to sit here and armchair-expert the thing.
If Mark's honest he'll know he's probably slightly more "in the wrong" than Seb. c'mon Mark, keep it together dude. Eye on the cup n'all that.
71eleven 1 year ago
This Vettel is a motherfuckin dumbass. As the faster car, it's his responsibility to stay away from the person being passed. If I was Webber, i'd be punching Vettel.
TheArfdog 1 year ago 2
A smart driver would have swerved away to avoid contact. Webber is not smart.
Mohibor 1 year ago
@Mohibor sorry but vettel shouldn't have take that line to overtake
worst the corner was far away
he should've take the outside
that's a risky an newbie movement
hugonubario 1 year ago
@Mohibor In your case then Webber would have handed the lead to Vettel, why should he do that for your German boyfriend?
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
@xNoReligionx Simple, to avoid contact. Thats why.
Mohibor 1 year ago
Another tactic to stop an Australian from winning the Drivers Championship. Go Webber!!!
Nickonova69 1 year ago
It was 100% Vettels fault, he had plenty of room but decided to turn into Webbers car. The fact is they are both racing for the championship, if Webber was to just move, and make it easy for Vettel to pass, thats just like Webber handing the world championship trophy to him.
s00059503 1 year ago 3
Watch the steering wheels - Vettel turns into Webber. No wonder Vettel makes the crazy sign - he tried a crazy maneuver that nearly took them both out.
dbshiandmoz 1 year ago 3
i don't think vettel was to blame on his own..it's all about communication..in a sport where they can communicate so easily , they could atleast tell webber to give him more space...
Big Fail on Red Bull Team , no driver rides on it's own , when something goes wrong it's the team's fault , not the driver's .
TheAMGLover 1 year ago
Webber's car was in fuel saving mode, in fact he was first for all the race and spent more fuel. Vettel had just 1 lap with the car without saving mode, so he tried overtaking, but in this way it was very stupid and the only one crazy here is him. He ruined his race and because of him webber lost 2 positions. He lost 15 point on webber instead of 7 he would lose if he arrived second, and red bull took 15 points instead of 43
vitalix88 1 year ago 5
Mark Webber is to Blame for not giving Vettel enough room even when he saw him moving over. But Vettel is also to Blame for moving across like that, Vettel is just like the old Schumacher, these things do happen. But I could sense that it was bound to happen sometime soon. Number One Rule in Motorsport, Never Take Out Your Team Mate. Remember Senna vs Prost in Suzuka Japan 1989.
1ironside 1 year ago
And what should Webber do? Step aside and say "Please, go, your majesty"? It´s racing for gods sake!
DextraKiedis 1 year ago 20
@DextraKiedis true, but in vettel's defence webber didn't give him much room. He had alot more room to give and should have given it because you have to give your teammates more respect than other racers to avoid stuff like this. If webber would have given more room, this probably wouldn't of happened.
aieljose 1 year ago
@aieljose Well, if you have to give your teammates respect, than Vettel shouldn´t even think about attacking Webber, when he was in fuel saving mode. If the team was so afraid of Hamilton, why they´d told Webber to slow down? Webber gave him some room as you can see, unfortunately the turn was coming and Vettel turned the car to the right too quick. I guess this accident happened because of too much ego on both sides.
DextraKiedis 1 year ago
@DextraKiedis webber was told to slow down because of fuel consumption issues. There's nothing wrong with vettel trying to pass webber as it is after all a race. I just think webber should have given him more room. If you look at 1:47 you can see what i mean. Webber has tons of room to give but decides to stay on the middle of the road. Stupid.
aieljose 1 year ago
@aieljose Cause Vettel had enough space, so he decided not to give him any more room. He couldn't expect Vettel turn right into him. The first thing is not to race with your teammate if he´s not having any serious problems with the car. (many top drivers first ask the team "Can I really pass him?" to avoid situations like this) So basicaly, Vettel shouldn´t attack. But if he once did... Then what is wrong with Webber fighting for his position? Vettel was not acting like a teammate, Webber too.
DextraKiedis 1 year ago
@DextraKiedis so you don't think it's ok for teammates to battle for the lead? There's nothing wrong with teammates battling for the lead and trying to pass each other, it's racing. The redbull team said it was webbers fault. If the team say's it's webbers fault then it's webbers fault.
aieljose 1 year ago
@aieljose I could say something about Red Bull, but you're not convincing me, I'm not convincing you. Case closed.;)
DextraKiedis 1 year ago
@DextraKiedis
vettel was almost infront of him this is stupidity not racing
GIANNHSPEIRAIAS 1 year ago
Vettel is crazy... Irresponsible maneuver!!!!!!!
pedrof3110 1 year ago 3
Chybu udělal Vettel...
lordenty 1 year ago
webber is guilty ...webber was faster ..
Procristo63 1 year ago
webber in Ferrari???? No F...g way!! Alonzo massa for ever.
patriaopatria 1 year ago
Weber you fucking retard give him a bit more room to breth and everything would be fine you tit.
HACKSAW1110 1 year ago
if i were mark webber i would go and kill vettel , it's a really newbie mistake by vettel. redbull could take a double but vettel destroys it all with a stupid overtake , and that's not all of it... it could end with a disaster, somebody could be hurt.
shaunwhite0 1 year ago
Vettel was faster, Webber didn't help to avoid this accident, but overall in raceconditions, it's racing. That's what we wanna see.
TheSyntaxE 1 year ago
vettels an idiot not the first time this sort of crap has happened TEAMMATES VETTEL!!!!!!!
johnnyrobot08 1 year ago
!!!!!!...
Gradinata88 1 year ago
Vettel is a ROOKIE..
Still lot to learn..
THIS IS RACING! DON'T WAIT FROM THE OTHERS TO STEP ASIDE FOR YOU!
JUST LEARN HOW TO PASS THEM FAIRLY WITHOUT PUSHING THEM AWAY!
I know 3 consecutive poles and 2 wins are painful..Simply Rookie behaviour.
Webber still remains a gentleman even after the incident..Brilliant. That's a behaviour!
kchras 1 year ago
The more important issue from this race and this incident isn't who is to blame for the crash. Both drivers were partially to blame. The important issue is that Vettel is clearly being favoured by the Redbull team. Webber was told to go into fuel saving mode, and Vettel turned his engine up. Redbull team wanted Vettel to overtake Webber (team orders) and blamed Webber for the crash.
Vettel = spoiled brat darling of Redbull Racing. Maybe he is Helmut Marko's lovechild.
jonw82 1 year ago 2
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The more important issue from this race and this incident isn't who is to blame for the crash. Both drivers were partially to blame. The important issue is that Vettel is clearly being favoured by the Redbull team. Webber was told to go into fuel saving mode, and Vettel turned his engine up. Redbull team wanted Vettel to overtake Webber (team orders) and blamed Webber for the crash.
Vettel = spoiled brat darling of Redbull Racing. Maybe he is Helmut Marko's lovechild.
jonw82 1 year ago
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The more important issue from this race and this incident isn't who is to blame for the crash. Both drivers were partially to blame. The important issue is that Vettel is clearly being favoured by the Redbull team. Webber was told to go into fuel saving mode, and Vettel turned his engine up. Redbull team wanted Vettel to overtake Webber (team orders) and blamed Webber for the crash.
Vettel = spoiled brat darling of Redbull Racing. Maybe he is Helmut Marko's lovechild.
jonw82 1 year ago
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The more important issue from this race and this incident isn't who is to blame for the crash. Both drivers were partially to blame. The important issue is that Vettel is clearly being favoured by the Redbull team. Webber was told to go into fuel saving mode, and Vettel turned his engine up. Redbull team wanted Vettel to overtake Webber (team orders) and blamed Webber for the crash.
Vettel = spoiled brat darling of Redbull Racing. Maybe he is Helmut Marko's lovechild.
jonw82 1 year ago
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The more important issue from this race and this incident isn't who is to blame for the crash. Both drivers were partially to blame. The important issue is that Vettel is clearly being favoured by the Redbull team. Webber was told to go into fuel saving mode, and Vettel turned his engine up. Redbull team wanted Vettel to overtake Webber (team orders) and blamed Webber for the crash.
Vettel = spoiled brat darling of Redbull Racing. Maybe he is Helmut Marko's lovechild.
jonw82 1 year ago
Obviously it was Vettel`s fault, its clear as day light those of u who think it was Webbers fault. Duh hahaha :)
2000Badguy 1 year ago
That is a team order...
It is very strange that Red Bull came up with an excusse that Vettel was right because Hamilton was getting close and he had to overtake Webber otherwise Hamilton would pass Vettel and that just a couple of corners before Vettel's move they ask Webber to change the engine mapping to save fuel (reducing top end's speed). And on top of that Helmut Marko says that Vettle was faster because of the tires.
Smells like Red Bull Crap to me...Vettel crying baby, u ran over Webber
hericmartinez 1 year ago
watch the gap between vettel's wheel and the white line, it constantly increases meaning vettel was coming across the track to the right and into webber. also watch webber's steering wheel when vettel is beside him, several times he is giving little adjustments to the right to give vettel more room and keep out of his path.
vettel's fault, no arguements, end of.
andrewstormchaser 1 year ago 2
If you can't see that this is Webber's fault you're either blind or stupid.
Pompyroftw 1 year ago
@Pompyroftw How was it his fault when he gave him room for a car to move he didn't cut in on Vettel he was allowed to stay where he was. Vettel accross the front randomly. What did Webber do he is allowed to race him esspcailly for the lead and championship.
opo1993 1 year ago 2
@Pompyroftw ..............please, please, please explain how you could possibly think this is Webber's fault!!!
CraigA43 1 year ago 34
@CraigA43
Red Bulls teamchef said it. DOUCHE
ThePhiltastic 1 year ago
@CraigA43 well... he got the inside and he was more than half the car length ahead of webber...webber should have given him room
aboessam123 1 year ago
@CraigA43 look where Hamilton is at a similar position into that corner that's where Webber would have been if Vettel hadn't been along side him on the inside, Webber chose to squeeze him and give him no room at that speed into a corner i don't blame Vettel. If they weren't team mates, this would be at least 50% Webber with little question.
atrains1504 1 year ago
@CraigA43 simply...he didn't leave room for Vettel. Vettel was driving on the grass before they touched...that was uncalled for. It would be a dirty move if he did it to someone else, but to his team mate...
Vettel did bear some fault for it tough, he did the same thing to Hamilton in China
Ic3m4nSi 1 year ago
@Ic3m4nSi OMG I am sick of people saying that he was on the grass. Look at the footage, he was on the white line, which is the road, not the grass! Get it right...
HSVLVR 1 year ago
@HSVLVR oh,i'm sorry, Mr. get it iright, i forgot that there's sand on the middle of the track so puffs of dust fly into the air, like it did at 0:24. I'm pin'n all the blame on webber now, just to piss you off ;)
Ic3m4nSi 1 year ago
@CraigA43
both red bull officials Christian Horner and Helmut Marko said it was an error made by Webber
ggurks 1 year ago
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andrewstormchaser 1 year ago
@Pompyroftw ...and so are Lewis Hamilton, Nico Rosberg, Alex Wurz, Martin Brundle, David Coulthard and Niki Lauda, right? Becuse they all said Vettel is the one to blame.
yaroukh 1 year ago
Vettel 's fault !!
D80fans 1 year ago 4
vettel es muy chiquillaje para un equipo no tiene espiritu de equipo jajajajaja jodanse alemanes de mierdaaaa
borjalapaterna 1 year ago
vettel idiot!
Hulkstar1991 1 year ago
it is clear in this video that Vettel came down the inside which was dirty line going into the corner. it was vettel's fault as we can see that he turned into Mark just before the breaking point. Anyways Mark is still leading the championship and is 15 points ahead of his teammate which is good. And Webber has won alot of fans with his reactions after the incident. As campared to Vettel, Webber stayed calm and came out of the race with third place.
toonmagpies 1 year ago 4
Anyone who thinks this was Webbers fault....is absolutely beyond question a fucking retard. Look at the actualy moment Vettel and Webber collide, Vettel has at least two car lengths to the left of him to go into, but he quite ovbiosuly moves too quick to the right.
FRAFPDD 1 year ago
1:43 - 1:46 Webber clearly squeezed Vettel. If they had not touched the very next corner would have enden in tears anyway. What was Webber thinking if at all?
spokis 1 year ago
Weber fault
lecheparavaka 1 year ago
Do you have the Hamilton onboard also? Gives great view of the accident
Sheraad190 1 year ago
epic moment :)
bukmacherpl 1 year ago
@intelrudic2000
And one more thing, Vettel didn't "feint" right. The move was done very slightly, for at least a second.
What I can see in Webber's cam, is just waiting Vettel to crash into and hold the line deadly.
One more again, Webber WAS NOT the race leader at that moment.
ackkhk 1 year ago
@ackkhk it was vettels fasult u can see he turns into him to push him across the track all the commentators even say vettels fault webber was defending his lead at the accident vettel wqas leading but he had not completed the move and tried to push webber across to make room so he he wouldnt run wide at the corner and loss the position webber was also in fuel saver mode vettel wasnt but he was ment to be
nachospole1 1 year ago
@nachospole1 Not exactly.
See the onboard cam of Vettel, the "right move" was very slightly. He definitly knew and got enough time to acknowledge Vettel was pushing him away, in front of him. But Webber choosed to hold the line deadly waiting him to crash.
But, if you see the cam from the audience, Vettel's seems snap to Webber hardly.
In fact, that "sudden right move" results from the crash, not an active nor aggressive move from Vettel.
Again, not right or wrong, but not necessary.
ackkhk 1 year ago
@ackkhk Webber had the right to defend the line, Vettel simply tried to pull off an overtaking maneuver which was impossible unless the driver in front was going to give way, and why should Webber give way, they were fighting for P1 and the Championship.
Webber gave Vettel enough room to back off, Vettel was faster and could have tried again, but he wanted to make it stick then as he knew that he only had an advantage for a short time.
Vettel = ROOKIE!
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
@ackkhk these car are so sensative that even the slightes move on the sterring wheel turns u alot vettel was at fault he turned into webber and u can c from webbers cam that he tries to avoide it these cars run side by side like this all the time when overtaking the aero was not at play
nachospole1 1 year ago
@nachospole1 And yes. I agree Vettel was pushing right a bit too early.
Vettel can wait until his car completly pass Webber.
But this "wait" and "defence" would make both of them run into the "very dirty" line. A big space for Mclaren.
Anyway, not a good nor necessage move for RedBull. That's it. That's what I mean.
ackkhk 1 year ago
ježiš komentátor se málem udělal...dělá jak kdyby se to nikdy nestalo...
kxuxbxaxs 1 year ago
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ackkhk 1 year ago
I like the way vettle admits he’s a complete nut case vettle carnt even drive a straght line
amorjz 1 year ago
Vettel is getting very nervous because his teammate is faster then him,3 polepositions in a row don't lie,go Mark,i hope you become the next worldchampion.
seatleontsi1 1 year ago
Vettel je čůrák.
yaroukh 1 year ago
They were just infront of a curve and there was not much space for vettel...ofcourse is mive was crazy, but Webber should have made more space
Injection64 1 year ago 2
Vettel went right, but Webber swa, that Vettel was much faster and he should had made more space...Vettel was almost through and Webber provocated this crash
Injection64 1 year ago
How can Hamilton say that he deserved the win. It was Red Bull who was the fastest, Vettel just went crazy for a second. This is how I see this. Vettel gets beaten by webber in SPain and in Monaco. THen in turkey Webber is faster again and Vettel can't take the pressure from Hamilton. So he tried to overtake his teammate in a incredible action. Only snap he thought he was clear whilst Webber was around his right wheel. The rest is history.
erwinruys 1 year ago
@erwinruys - When did Hamilton say that? He said on BBC that he was not very excited to win in such a way (ie because the competition self-destructs)
marpetpet 1 year ago
@marpetpet during the interview after the race with the top 3. Hamilton said that it was a great team effort blabla. And he said that "it was truly deserved". Then after that he started to say about the Vettel-Webber crash and about the thing that you mentioned.
erwinruys 1 year ago
Obviously that was Vettel's fault. Mark didn't change any direction on the track.
Think back to the 2007 Japenese GP , what happened?
Vettel is too young, need more experience
frankchelsea 1 year ago
Vettel turned right. His fault clearly.
robertlam18 1 year ago 2
I agree with what Coulthard said about accumulating pressure resulting in a slip up - at the end of the day Vettel pulled across too early before clearing Webber's car. Nail biting looking at Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button going head to head... was anyone else here waiting for a similar incident to happen ?!?!?!??
skeletalwreck 1 year ago
@skeletalwreck iwas hoping for a similar accident. That would've been great that Webber would win even with a crash.
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it was Weber fault cause he was outside and he was behind in that moment. Race rules are strict, if you are outside and opponent's front tires are in your line you have to give him some space. Not to mention Vettel is his team mate. So shameful for red bull no matter which fault was that. :(
ivanoviciva 1 year ago
Clearly Webber didn't give that space they're supposed to give each other as the team talks about it. Vettel was faster and ahead, webber didn't leave any space. That's it.
lookfilms 1 year ago 2
@lookfilms - why should Webber leave space? It is not a charity run, it is a RACE!! And just becasue a car is faster, does not mean you have to let it pass... that's called RACING!
marpetpet 1 year ago
Webber didnt let Vettel space, so they got too close together and aerodynamics caused the cars to move together.. vettel is not so fucked in head (like for instance Alonso) to cause this just because webber is better,
yes webber did hold the line as nooone is near him, but there was, and he should let space for Vettel
dnch 1 year ago
@dnch No the aerodynamics did not pull the cars together, Webber defended the corner and Vettel wen up the inside, there was room for vettel but he snapped right to get a better line and hit Webber... It was a rookey mistake by Vettel, Webber did nothing wrong!
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
@xNoReligionx i dont see no "snap" by vettel, he just gets to better place to get into the corner (you never get to corner from inside) and he let space right to him for Webber, Webber went like noone is near him (maybe he is too used to be 30 seconds ahead anyone else)
and how the hell is he defending a corner when he clearly is behind Vettel?
dnch 1 year ago
@dnch he left him space on th right vettel went up the inside where there was less room but enough. and vettel turned into him it was not the aero vettel was ahead of him he had no dirty air when he hit him u can see onboard he turns into him
nachospole1 1 year ago
@dnch aerodynamics do not cause cars to come together, its the fact that sebastian moved his wheel right that caused the car to go right haha. and no, he had every right to defend from vettel.
BrandzF1 1 year ago 2
IT IS ON LIKE DONKEY KONG!!!! Webber should have got the win. NICOLE IS HOT if Hamiltopn wants the champ this year he should let all driver fuck her and they will let him win LOL
inboundDMC 1 year ago
WTF vettel.
dumpkernel 1 year ago
"Webber's movin first to the right, then when he realizes he's gonna be passed, he tries to block the german steerin left again"
I completely disagree - like almost everybody else, I saw Webber only hold the line.
hartigdom 1 year ago 3
@hartigdom
But Webber gave about a car width to Vettel. If Vettel didn't turn right, most likely Webber would overtake vettel at the next corner. Like how the McClarens battled it out later in the race. So to me, Webber was fair to hold the line and give enough space to vettel. its not like he closed the gap by sharply turning left.
javernchua 1 year ago
Hard to see the darkside is...
The both of guys no intense to make any extra space between
tyres to overtaking your team mate.
Well they made out of history.
greendarth 1 year ago
OMG! clearly webber's fault. Vettel's comin up and he's much faster...webber's movin first to the right, then when he realizes he's gonna be passed, he tries to block the german steerin left again...you can't always win webber..and u deserved to be out of the race instead of Vet.
fgrfgr 1 year ago 2
DEFINITELY Vettel's fault. Webber kept the line and tha tis his right. "It is the responsibility of the overtaking driver to complete a clean manoeuvre". The only thing Webber would not have been allowed to do, is pull to the left. Webber did NOT pull to the left, but Vettel moved to the right. Even if Vettel pretends to think differently, he must know that it was his fault. It reminds me of his crash with Kubica in Australia 2009...
hartigdom 1 year ago
No one was wrong, but what Webber did is a very selffish move.
Watch carefully, Webber was not just holding the line throught out the straight, he was getting right for next corner already and get back to left side to block Vettel.
It is not necessary for Webber to hold his line, harass or make any difficulties to Vettel's overtaking, which was much faster, sure overtaking, teammates of him.
ackkhk 1 year ago
@ackkhk - "a very selfish move"... helloooooo: they are racing, competition is all about being selfish. Like you are going to be champion by lying down and letting everyone walk on you!! Webber defended perfectly, Vettel lost his nerve and panicked.
marpetpet 1 year ago
Even if they didn't crash at last, Webbers was pushing both cars into a "very dirty" line, 2 Mclaren's were just right behind to attack at any moment.
Webber holding his line was just for himself, not for the team.
While Vettel was thinking of a better apex for both of them, but his TEAMMATE didn't buy it at all.
ackkhk 1 year ago
@ackkhk agree, Webber was way off the line.
lookfilms 1 year ago
@lookfilms Webber was way off the line, there is nothing wrong with that it's called driving defensively, he did not jink or turn left, he gave Vettel room, but Vettel snapped right to get a better line into the corner= accident!
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
@ackkhk So a race leader should give up his lead as soon as his team mate asks for it? Vettel feints right first then darts left fast. Webber held his line and did NOT move to block either move. Basically saying to Vettel, if you are good enough to pass me I'll let you through. Didn't block Vettel and stayed in his own line and let Vettel attempt the over take. The fact that Vettel was idiotic and decided to cut right HARD to cut webber off and take Webber's line caused the accident, not Webber.
intelrudic2000 1 year ago
@intelrudic2000 He didn't do it hard, because a small correction can look like a block at such speed.
erwinruys 1 year ago
@intelrudic2000 That's why i said it was a selffish move.
Webber could do so, but not necessary.
1. That Speed Difference
2. Teammates
3. 2 Mclarens right behind, in-in-out would let Mclaren kill both of them in the straight later
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@intelrudic2000
And one more thing, Vettel didn't "feint" right. The move was done very slightly, for at least a second.
What I can see in Webber's cam, is just waiting Vettel to crash into and hold the line deadly.
One more, Webber WAS NOT the race leader at that moment.
ackkhk 1 year ago
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@intelrudic2000
And one more thing, Vettel didn't "feint" right. The move was done very slightly, for at least a second.
What I can see in Webber's cam, is just waiting Vettel to crash into and hold the line deadly.
One more again, Webber WAS NOT the race leader at that moment.
ackkhk 1 year ago
vettel asshole !
kassus1978 1 year ago
Vettel shit !!!!
niuniek24w 1 year ago
watch?v=WArEMsFsF6A
madebytechno 1 year ago
you dont have to yield ..Its up to the driver behind to overtake NOT ram him...Vettel is aTOOL!
drsquidd 1 year ago
Vettel was much faster, webber should have made some place for him. Forgot sake, they are teammates!!!! In the end both of them made a mistake... -.-
Blockgrafik 1 year ago
was it the "F" duct that sucked Seb in?
smreng1 1 year ago
Vettle brain fart....what was he thinking???????
neobignuts 1 year ago
I thought Red Bull was the perfect place for Webber to drive the rest of his F1 career. Now I think he should he should leave what was my favourite team, and go to Ferrari.
Wake up Red Bull.
RicoRodregez 1 year ago 3
Vettel = Total Failure.
This is the second time Vettel has cost Webber a race win. He has so much more to learn before he can be considered a good driver. So far, he has backed up his good speed with only errors time and time again.
The fact that Red Bull are backing Vettel's side of the story proves they are clearly favouring the German. The entire world can see Vettel crashing into a car holding it's line, yet somehow it's Webbers fault!
RicoRodregez 1 year ago
in the onboardcamera from webber you can see that he steer a little bit to left and the distance between asphaltedge and vettels car will be smaler.... and so he have to steer right... and as a teammade you have to pass your faster teammade
Westbam5 1 year ago
no one is wrong.
ted9111 1 year ago
Seb Vettel is a hitlerjugend-minded person. It was his fault.
duzygrzesio 1 year ago
vettel, vettel, vettel you stupid idiot if you had hold your own line you would had passed webber what so ever. webber could do anything on this. blame: vettel
JP050123 1 year ago
Vettel is a little upstart trying to intimidate his older team mate. This for first position in the race. No one is expected to yield in these circumstances. Vettel would've had to take inside line if he had taken Webber early which would've resulted in a re-take by Webber. So the cheeky little monkey tries to move into the racing line and is lucky he didn't take them both out and people didn't get hurt. Vettel definitely being studying too many old Schumi vids.
bloggabash 1 year ago