Scientology plans to convert Russia. By faith or cash?

[OriginalScuffler]

The whole debate here isn't some sort of validation of Scientology. It's in the concept of "religion". Scientology falls into the crack of a religion, and it shouldn't be discriminated against. ALL RELIGIONS ARE UNTRUE AND UNSUPPORTED BY EVIDENCE AND FACTS AND SHOULD NOT BE BELIEVED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE. But they get to call themselves a religion, it's kind of their right.

[FranciscoKGuerreiro]

insane...

[toqtaqiya]

My God. What is happening in the world?

[resistanceunion]

Dumb EU gov .. How can you say to Russia to pay ... Scientology has dozens of unsolved cases in EU , missing documents , many witneses .. That only shows how corrupt everyone is .. They care only about their Bribes .. During the Trail in France 3 Casses of files wen't missing and no one was taken responcible .. Too me it showed simply that EU and US sold out like cheap Hoes soo that Scientology can brainwash people.

[KidChaos878]

The EU can go shove that ruling up their ass! We Russians are never and will never be part of them! Scientology are not a religion and will never be considered as one!!!! Long live Russia! Long live the Russian people! Ura!

[carsmasher]

@KidChaos878 You are so right. Take this from an American. Don't let the Scientologist take hold, it has done serious damage here in the United States. Don't let them hurt your country as it has mine.

[discjockeyfuture]

So, Russia refuses to recognize Scientology as a religion, but the EU can order the Russian government to change their position? So much for global co-operation.

[gunterra1]

@discjockeyfuture - The EU has done that already. However, Russian government refuses to comply and do the oposite. I smell a rat. Looks like vested interests and conflict of interests are at the root of all this nonsense. And now a judge bases his ruling of the OPINION of psychiatrists, the vested interests without asking for FACTS or proof!. Makes me wonder who is being "brainwased" here by whom?

[thewhitepumpkin]

Finally there is hope for the Russian people!

[Freethinking2010]

Story in RT today saying that an investigation has been launched into a branch of the 'church' of scientology in Shchelkovo near Moscow, and that the center was searched by the police. Good on you, Russia, keep up the good work. We need strict action against this organization. We're far too politically correct in the West, and are not doing enough for those brainwashed into this group.

[trexx32]

@abadubie so is islam and christianty

[Polum824545201]

all religions should be banned.. they all have negative effects on the progress of mankind.. like a ball and chain.. at the very least.. they should be taxed..

[NoxusGas100]

@Polum824545201 That's the most ignorant comment you can't take peoples religion from them stupid.What if I took your car away from you?Cause I felt like it destroying the environment?

[Polum824545201]

@NoxusGas100 cars are real though.. you can take my imaginary car and do whatever you want with it..

[NoxusGas100]

@Polum824545201 So your saying brainwash them? lol

[keggerous]

omg . . . the future is goign to be super muslims vs. super christians vs. super scientologists. . . . . fucking aye :(

[r22k10]

Let them call themselves a religious, by all means. Just stop giving tax exemptions to religious groups!

[mattbob58]

If you must pay to join a religion then its not a real religion. Go me, I just solved the problem.

[LittlePinky82]

@mattbob58 So true. Even within main stream religions like Islam,Judaism, Christianity and Earth based religions don't do that and donations are always welcome. The one guy is totally right. It's just to be exempted from taxes.

[Htogrom]

From bad tree bad fruits. And everything bad will be thrown in the fire.

[domstott86]

the creator of this religion was a science fiction writer, coincidence?

[nowherehome]

Even the French don't like scientologists, what's with the double standard? Russians are intelligent people and see scientology for what it really is, a massive cult scam.

The government sure as hell won't pay those fines. Scientologists do no good works and are self-serving. Long live Orthodoxy!

[Martial024]

Christianity was a cult.

[NoxusGas100]

@Martial024 Thats why I have no religion.Nope I'm not atheist either their just as worse as christians or muslims.

[sniper6081]

You guys better watch these assholes. Their religion is quite dangerous.

[ab1tchslap]

scientologists are creepy.

[MikeCT17]

Just another example that we shouldn't give in to all that that tolerance crap, I would bash them if I would see them trying to claim they have rights, that should be already thankful for being alive so far, and should keep quiet and out of focus,

[analyzingfunny]

$cientology the business is loosing money in America. So they have to prey on Russia! How sad.

[coladict]

@analyzingfunny How much luxury do the heads of the organization have to spend on for them to actually be losing money ?

Also I doubt they have much chance in Russia or the rest of the eastern block. It's only here (the former Eastern block that is, I'm not in Russia) that Scientology might actually be scammed itself. I tell you we're better frauds than them!

[analyzingfunny]

Earn? you mean pay for! FUCK SCIENTOLOGY!!!! Youtube "Gareth Cales" and see what this "church" does to kids.

[rainer1980]

You'd think all those years of Communism saying how bad organized religion was would have made people more secular.

[deepmind]

I would think just the opposite. They saw how bad a G-dless system like Communism was, making them yearn for something more spiritual & merciful.

[SovietUnionRedStar]

this would have not happened if Communism never fell

[kkklownknight6699]

Religion is human poison.

These fairy tales suppress and divide people.

An Ideal society will be free of religion.

[NoxusGas100]

@kkklownknight6699 Well the world will never be free of religion.My religion is do good and good will come back to you. Never judge others.

Believe in yourself.

This religion is called "Life"

[Polum824545201]

@NoxusGas100 sounds like karma... also not real..

[eristderbeste]

thanky ou.

[RFXCGZZ]

Anonymous would not like this xD

[Falsecults]

And what duristiction odes the european court have in russia?

This cult is not recogized in many country in eurupe.

[CruSaD3Rs]

i can't believe that ppl in 2009 still believe in superstitions

[mikesinner69]

All religions are cults since they are bases on mythology. People who follow them are ignorant.

[MrWinston1984]

I understand what you mean. Scientology is very different in that it demands very strict mind control over every little thought and even further it demands you believe this is total freedom. It's not enough for you to just mouth out the words, the e-meter is used for the purpose of seeking and destroying all independent thought.

[BlackNeon9]

yes.. the e-meter does not do anything, its just a glorified lie detector. but its how they use it that persuades people that what they say is true. few years ago, I by accident went into one of their bases in Birmingham England and ended up having an audit and walked out, once i knew, part way through.. they use aggressive sales tactics. also they on purposely ask questions to TRY and find your weaknesses. that brief 10 mins answered my questions about how some get sucked into the practice

[junmeskie]

TO PUT IT MILDLY lol

SCIENTOLOGY IS A CULT!

indeed

WATCH MY VIDEO:

"The Truth About Scientology - BEWARE OF THIS CULT"

[liviu6]

Scientology is an evil sect.

[igorvasilevsky]

European Court of Human Rights can kiss their ass. Enough said.

[Daz20s]

Come on, wake up Russians!! why are you allowing these groups to destroy your country? Did you notice that all those groups are coming from the US?!! They start them in the US and when they become strong, they start working with the Masons, the CIA, the FBI and all evangelical churches and sects such as Jehovah's Witnesses, the Moromons, the 7th Day Adventists so they can penetrate any society and spread their poison! Why doesn't the the Russian Orthodox Church kick them out?

[AnonymousDisguise]

100,000 $cientologists in Russia? Bulls**t. The Church enormously exaggerates it's numbers.

Come on, Russia, get rid of these mind-controlling morons. Unless you want Russians to shell out $300,000 (USD) + to reach spiritual enlightenment.

[CRAPCANNONS]

/wiki/Church_of_Scientology_Mo­scow_versus_Russia

[CRAPCANNONS]

European Court of Human Rights?

Didn't Germany just ban them from the country?

You Russians better nip this in the bud asap.

[AcePilot101]

Only the truth will set you free.

Therefore, let logic be your religion and truth be your god.

[deepmind]

Logic & Truth are not the same thing.

[DueCarnage]

Any "religion" that requires you pay in order to get their teachings should not be granted tax exempt status.

[Xakryn]

It's funny how easy it is for most people to recognize this as a cult, but not their own religion. Amazing lack of critical thinking there.

[eristderbeste]

careful! choose church of satan theyxre bedder!

[Realfoxhawk]

Lol. I have heard of people like you who actually enjoy being slaves.

[murk2002]

If you have money, I mean lots of money you can be a scientologist, lol. The Russian Orthodox Church needs to keep a close watch on these people.

[AnonLulzKiller]

Oh no. A religion that doesn't preach poverty, stupidity, and blind obedience to the government. Is must be a cult. Maybe the fascists in u.s.-occupied Germany can save us all with their Nazi ambitions, again.

[jojoinhere]

Scientology = Christianity but newer

[StopUnumNow]

Are you having a laugh?

[jojoinhere]

yeah, kind of. but still hoping that cult like all judeo religion can be destroy so no one can start a war or kill people in the name of god,allah whatever.

[Realfoxhawk]

And all sport should be banned because of the minority hooligans. Are you going to destroy me? Then what does that make you?

[jojoinhere]

so shoud Scientology be banned because someone die for it

[Realfoxhawk]

No I don't think it should be banned, but you are stereotyping all people who believe in a god/gods. Not everyone is interested in starting wars in the name of their god/gods. In fact many of them get locked up for refusing to take part in wars that radicals start. And most of the religions that have the radical elements tend to look down upon the radicals and consider them to be misdirected.

[ArtypNk]

Put the money in the basket, dont do that, do that in this way, hate that, go here, say this here, make this illegal. Now, tell me, what religion do I describe with this cryptic sentence?

[metalfisted]

ArtypNk

[zeogeox]

Who told russia they have to have Sientology in htere country? I mean the russian goverment didn't want them in there country so WTF!?!??!

[Cossakfreedon]

If its true what i knew from South Park about Sientology,i'd say just-Hahaaa,the most stupid stuff which been created by the most clever confidence man.

Jehovah's Witnesses were banned in few towns of my region month ago. No place for sectants!

[movitmovit]

so who does the "fine" get paid to?

[Tressco]

Ominous Mr. Strasbourg is not paying any attention!

He should retire!

Southpark did a nice one on Psytologie...

Curious to see the snake oil merchants invading Russia...

[Simbirsk2130]

Scientology = Network Marketing. Once you are in, you can't get out. Glad, that my homecountry has banned it.

[Wasp16mm]

Get The God Damn Scientologist & Muslims OUT of Russia!

[RodionRodion]

LOL I love Russia banning that garbage.

[666calculator]

If you want to see something very new and very controversial see the uploads on my channel.

[odin92681]

Just a cult with actors as members is all it is. These people actually THINK they can buy their way into heaven

[nocturnalpray]

how people can become so stupid, how people gets entangled in this kind of bull shit? salvation .....my ass!!

[nirbija]

Never mind this scientology religious rubbish, why would Russians allow themselves to be part of a so-called european court?

So-called european court is just a cover for another effort to promote european colonization and european domination

Russian Federation should have its own court; because there are natural and fundamental cultural differences between those in western europe and people of the Russian Federation. Those differences are healthy and SHOULD be maintained. ONE world is silly

[JobecRichardson]

That damn cult is trying so hard to survive in a world that does not want them. Ha, there attempts are so poor.

[VictorWasechkin]

this is not a religion as it does not link a human to Heaven.

[leetshoot]

Just another cult

[polo123man456]

where is Stalin when you need him !!!!!!!

[RedGunBullets]

haha nice one xD

[nirbija]

lol

East is East and West is West, and NEVER must there be foolish and worthless efforts to make them one!

All scientologists, fagots, etc should remain in the West, and not allow to pollute the East and elsewhere!

[cyberspy034]

lol

[gunterra1]

@polo123man456 - Well, Stalin may be your hero. But I don't think he is comming - yet. (lol). Why not ask for Hitler instead? "Hate is more lasting than dislike".. (dircct quote)! Get the point?

[Chinkeyface]

@polo123man456 amen to that, thought the russians had balls, obviously not....

[HeartBreak1x]

Send them to the gulags. Man If I owned a country these Fuckers would be experimented upon and be made into reality tv stars like Running Man.

[natlissits]

It won't work in Russia - Russians are too down to earth and sceptical people for this kind of bullshit.

[allthings509]

Cult of Satan/Scientology/Kabbalah.. Russia kick these evil satanic bastard moneysuckers O U T!!

[BlackNeon9]

the very idea of Scientology and Russia don't go well together at all, bad news

[JuliaWinters]

So many lonely people which wish to enter sects for receptions of feeling family. But the majority of these sects are created by swindlers.

[ss90ss444]

If Tom Cruise and other famous people are members I am sure ordinary people will join aswell.

Everybody knows that L. Ron Hubbard was a fraud.

[RussianDefender100]

Scientology is a typical

filthy religious occult made by the Yanks

Get them out of our holy lands !!

[parrotnutz]

Believe me, there are plenty of us yanks who are doing as much as we can do to stamp out this disgusting cult. Just because insane Tom Cruise and John Travolta believe in it...doesn`t mean all yanks do.

[zambimaru]

Hopefully Russia wont make Scientology feel welcome.

[AmnonNhymous]

Anonymous has ambitious plans for Scientology. Please visit WhyWeProtest (dot) net

[Sasoriakakatsuki]

In Soviet Russia, Russia converts Scientology.

[malo7000]

Sigh,  Russia Keep fighting against this nutcase "religion"

[DjPetrov]

WTF?!?! i thought us Russians we're Orthodox. im orthodox. so theres a new reljoin? sorry for my bad eng/

[parrotnutz]

No, there isn`t a new religion...$cientology is a nasty CULT and has nothing to do with religion. Scientology has used religious cloaking to get out of paying taxes because the whole scheme is about sucking money.

[roosterrocks]

Scientology is a joke no one in America even likes this shit, except hollywood. They're a bunch of cultish creeps.

[parrotnutz]

Sorry....not even in Hollywood...just a couple of brainwashed actors believe in this BS. One actor, Jason Beghe, left and has spoken out against the cult. The cult is crashing and burning.

[jerseyflex238]

I'm RUssian i BELIVE IN RUSSIA it is my Religion, I follow Orthodox Traditions because with Our church we went through Mongols, Teutonic orders, Poles, Sweeds, Prussians, Napoleon, Germans, Nazis, Coldwar, Communist -Georgians( STALIN,BERIA, jews) 1991, 1997 Default and so on.

[phfrankh]

"Tax avoidance Cults" are everywhere. Just my observation/opinion.

[GeeKayKayGee]

Tax the church. Tax all churches and all religions.

Let each church apply for tax exemption only for the money they spend on truly charitable works.

Spent $10k running a soup kitchen? Ok you don't have to pay tax on that $10K. No tax on the $10million you spend to run a hospital.

Spend money building a new church or mosque or synagogue? Taxed. Land for building? Taxed. Payments to clergy? Taxed. Fancy museum and library? Taxed. Funny hats for priests? Taxed.

[dopefish55]

all religions are psychos people are just mad that this is new and is not 2000.

That aside, these scientolofags are mentally insane imo.

[Estonianbeauty]

why is russia part of this Strasbourg court. Its a chechen terrorists surporter aswell. They should get out of this court.

[trueemperors]

why does every one blame america for this , we all think its bs too

[GenAndrei]

Fucking bullshit! Strasbourg Court.... Russia should've said fuck off! And they could too. Another branch of American influence...

[vantagepointmoon]

One more thing - Strasbourg looks like puppet in that case, f*ck them as well.

[vantagepointmoon]

The court's decision while obligatory to follow is purely hypocritical, a clear case of what the abuse of 'human rights protection' is - it's not the state in this case that is violating human rights by not allowing the $cientology to be calling itself a 'religion', but the so-called 'church', which is systematically abusing its members and those critisizing it for its aggressive activities and using legal loopholes to protect this money-sucking cult. In other words - F*ck $cientology!!!!!!

[igorvasilevsky]

Russia just should ignore this Strasbourg shit, which even can't investigate crimes of Suck-ass-willy.. Thousand years we lived without this scientology bullshit and will live more thousand years.

[Paganiproductions]

scientology is bullshit

[FirsToStrike]

The guy at 1:35 is totally right, i talked with a scientologist once and he told me that the only reason they have "religious" symbols and their operation centers are called churches, is that they want to be considered as a religion so they can avoid paying taxes.

[EvilViolencePerson]

But Russia will now face a crippling shortage of E-meters! Think of the Thetans!

[FirsToStrike]

Damn, those E-meters are really amusing, especially when you see how much they cost... what will the russians do without them? Oh right, drink vodka!

[gLaDik]

c'mon

f*ck scientology

wtf, kill these motherf*ckers

[zombieseezombiedo]

*rolls eyes* at Europe. Scientology? a religion? really?

FACE PALM!

[LeilaKmusic]

Goth bless Xanu ....LOL

[alex3914]

There is many ways to raise your consciousness....

This is one of them.

[Paganiproductions]

It's the wrong one

[beasuappear]

I think this merely proves that people are pre-disposed to 'believe' and to 'submit' to something- it is simply a shame that rather than submit to TRUTH- they will believe anything though. Like this.

[MisterFission]

Scientology is NOT a religion, it's a business! They sell self-help books and counseling services. To call scientology a religion is just nonsense. What Vladimir Ivanov said is true: The scientology "church" is a scam to pump money out of people and makes its members work for little pay. Followers of scientology are brainwashed into thinking this scam is helping them.

[BlackNeon9]

the court just want one rule for them (the french) and one for everyone else geesh nothing makes sense! why???

[TruthSeeker404]

protest against scientology they don't even deserve to live on the ground they "pay"

for.

[BlackNeon9]

European Court of Human Bureaucracy i.e This really gives countries no right to choose how to run their country.... Fucking pansies.. in know im english blah blah but the EU really sucks donkey bollocks and everyone know it!!

[AnonymousCthulhu]

Fuck Scientology! Спасите Россию!

[ThisBoyTV]

I often wonder how they turned Ron Hubbard's book of science fiction into a religion. He really was a notable science fiction writer.

[BlackNeon9]

yeah i put his book down after first chapter so i didn't bother to read the others,... it didn't make a good impression...

[HitlerH8sNeoNazis]

Scientology is evil and a scam

[igorvasilevsky]

Scientologists, GET OUT FROM RUSSIA!

These retards are hypnotising people, making them do all that they want, mostly in politics.

So GET THE FUCK OUT!

Russia did right. This is a threat to our national security.

[BlackNeon9]

and economy

[MarshallKutuzov]

Of course - "Scientology" is yankee-doodle criminal activity. Kick these yankees out of Russia, NOW!

[onlygoodhunsadeadun1]

Russia should nuke the european court of human rights !

passing laws on russia , the cheek of these assholes !

[onlygoodhunsadeadun1]

as if stalin and hitler weren't bad enough !

[motherussia123]

we must all drink the blood of every dead/dying scientologist

[0xTRX007]

Nuke the European Court of "Human rights"... and then kill any Scientology nut who brags about converting Russia to their crazy Scientology scam.

If these Scientology nuts want to force their scam onto Russia then the only way to stop them is by force.

[Wadim87]

So basically European Court of Human Rights wants this deadly scam to prosper in Russia. I'm a European Federalist, but I think Russia should just quit from this "court" influence.

[keklolbur]

They should ALL be ki**** if you know what I mean.

[transfixedtornado]

wow - - how can this happen?

[albertfeeney]

in russia, religion picks you!

[MrVgeeT]

That's the way it seems now.

[UltraBibendum]

Scientology is the light

[onlygoodhunsadeadun1]

Bollocks ! its a cult for idiots !!!

[phackqu]

zeitgeistmovie com

[VexRiot]

New age stuff

[jreed136]

Scientology is poisonous, it's a horrible group of mind washed people.

You'd be better off just killing them all off in Russia.

[massmanthaman]

that shit isn't even a real religion if anything

[Globox822]

fuk strasbourg or what ever, they can have them, ban that shit from Russia or any country that still has some values and put them in jail if they are persistante.

[Popajaja]

Wikipedia to Church of Scientology: You're Banned!

[eyesonly2019]

Haha I wouldn't touch this pseduo-occultic nonsense with a ten foot pole. Did you all know the creator of scientology Hubbard was a disciple of the most famous satanist of all time Aleister Crowley who called himself the beast and anti-christ. That alone should tell you all you need to know about this cult.

[Paulina86]

It's a sect, like Jehovah's witnesses... It's better to avoid it!

[manhattanwombat]

hail xenu

[troglodyte3344]

How can European Court impose a fine on Russia? They wont pay that.

[officialusa]

cult worships money and aliens

[mysticx0]

holy crap...france is actually standing up to someone? wow...and someone the rest of the world bends over for. impressive. viva la france!

[MarshallKutuzov]

The European Court can shove it up its asshole. "Scientology" isn't a religion. It's a financial scam that relies on criminal methodology.

[hereandnow6002]

scientology is bullshit. all religion is bullshit