fu*** that... True democracy and optional True socialism is the way to 2 go, 2 proven methods... fu*** cummunism, fu*** scammed democracy chose your leader either way u r fuc**ed, freedom of choice is not obligatory capitalism we can have optional socialism 4 everyone who wants that...
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I watched the movie called "Demolition man" with Stallone and Wesley. It's a great movie depicting Zeitgeist type of society very nicely. Can it work? Yes, absolutely it can, the movies is the proof. Unfortunately the food is awful and there's no sex :( Now, Peter might not know that behind all of this are 9-11 satanists, or maybe he does know. Once the New Age system of idyllic harmony gets established, they'll soon find out that the human emotions are a serious problem and wil try to remove it
It's sad that Alex had to let this NWO shill get to him and make him lose his cool.
He should of just told him how much he disagrees and he respects his opinion. Joseph tells the truth about the Federal Reserve and I actually agree with him about Religion. But it's unrealistic and a LIE that technology is going to be shared by the people. It's going to be used to CONTROL everyone and WILL be abused by those that create it. It's foolish to think it won't be exploited.
@timberwolves100 only in THIS system is technology being abbused. In a sane world where there is no differential advantage, there is nothing to exploit people with. Technology will provide goods and services just like today only on a massive scale and FREE so everyone can live a nice human life here on earth.
the problem with this is that i agree with Alex on most of their points of difference here. however, unfortunately Alex puts his points across poorly in this interview and is downright rude when he doesnt need to be. this is a manic performance from AJ.
i like it when alex says its in all of us as an individual, look in the mirror if you want to find the bottom line problem...and the bottom line solution. but, obviously he misses his own bottom problem.
I don't care if people accuse of being melodramatic, but this is actually one of the most relevant discussions of our generation (maybe localized to 2000+) it not only outlines PJ's ideas, but shows how he's able to defend himself and maintain his composure with great patience. At the same time it makes this prior ranking theorist out to be a moron, by his very own actions and accord. It separates the small minded thinking of the early 2000s to the intellectual strength we need for the future.
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the reason that the venus project is different from the older institutions that alex jones is afraid of is M O N E Y ! money has always been used to devide us.
Things like communism aren't feared because of money, they are feared because they're totalitarian.
Having a highly technological civilisation, with automated production of goods and personal space ships, is obviously very preferable but any ideology that is based upon fundamentally changing human beings, like communism, is potentially the most dangerous ideology possible. There's not enough scepticism about TVP.
It's not even like TVP has a monopoly on tech advancement anyway...
@RPFS2008 i agree its scary,and im one who dreams of a reality where this idea would work,not needing to worry of those whod try to horde power.but, there are so many who are involved,and if that intimate relationship with the people could continue,i think its possible,though it could also go wrong if let.these types of worries can be addressed on a large scale within the community.have you seen any of the other interviews of peter joseph?hes very smart and im sure hes well aware of the dangers
I've been watching interviews with Fresco. Much of what he says is very good, infact many of the problems Zeitgeist points out (other than the NWO/911 conspiracy junk) are valid but their seems to me that there is a lack of understanding of the free market and thus the remedies (TVP).
"hes very smart and im sure hes well aware of the dangers"
Don't take this the a bad way, but this kind of trust is an example of a lack of scepticism regarding TZM/TVP.
It just occured to me, when they were talkin about guns, peter said that people I would be educated to know they don´t need guns. It´s the same manipulation that he attacks, he doesn´t give an individual the chance to want guns for pleasure. Some ideas of Peter doesn´t add up. The educational system would have to be programmed by a tiny group of people, the same way that is today, deciding what to think. "No sheperd, for his only existance, wants you to be free"
Yup. I guess you can call anyone who challenges religion a luciferian, yup, I guess you can call me a goat worshiper and a person who sacrifices animals.
Joseph says everything will be monitored to distribute resources equally, but that no one will be there to enforce it... that's a complete oxymoron. Even without money, there will be people that WILL try to control things. Animals even control things! There is no utopia, yet Joseph isn't making sense because he's describing a utopia but then says there is no perfect World.
I'm all for the Zietgiest system, what a wonderful world it would be. What Peter is saying is that WE all humans have to be responsible and care for our world. Each individual has to see in one direction if we are to survive.
the biggest difference is Peter believes in the society and what is and what could be. and Alex belives in the individual and what is and what was. Alex wants to go back to the greatness of the past. Peter wants to the greatness of the future. Peter wants to evolve us socially. Alex fears change.
What Peter is saying is all great in "theory". Evil does exist, right now in this world. It is a result of "human conditioning" along with our ability to make "choices" (yes or no, on or off, right or wrong, 1 or 0, good or bad). What Peter is suggesting is, at this stage of evolution, a fantasy and would be abused beyond our wildest dreams by some form of elitist power structure. Alex is correct by saying this is what IMF is trying to sell us NOW and it has "hidden agenda" written all over it!
so I understand what peter joshep is saying, he is saying that we should all work for good of society and re-educate our self and condition ourselves so we will have society without division, and driven for material. hmmmm.... I think I heard that before where did I hear that??? Oh right I heard from my ole friend Marx.
@rockyoh Yes but Marx's ideals was still WITHIN a monetary system of engagement, so what peter is saying is under different contexts now that the monetary system is taken out of the account
The satan is a real intelligent entity that does not possess a physical body, that means you cannot see it not with your 5 sense human reasoning and comprehension. Until we all see things spiritually then and only then will the human population do things naturally, it is a choice in whom we serve, we make that choice with every thought and ACTion.
ACTS = legislated rules of society, what do our ACTIONS represent? Do they represent people who want to change the world into a peace loving planet?
That is why the family unit is disintegrating and that there are children born out of wedlock, because the satan is against all of the created and meant to work features of the design called human and GOD created human so that puts the satan at odd with GOD. The satan want to destroy everything.
Peter is speaking correctly, if all people of all nations thought as we all own everything and nothing, then the problems of this world would go away.
WE NEED to change OURSELVES, not try to change the external system.
This worlds system is total anarchy already, democracy does not exist.
Why not try a Theocratic Order, one ruled purely by heaven alone. Recognise the child of heaven within.
I will go further and say that Peter Joseph is possibly an "operative" of the Council On Foreign Relations. He is a "Neo-Stalinist". I wouldn't be surprised if he's funded with Rockefeller capital? I also question Alex Jones's patriotism for giving this individual a platform for his anti-Christian / anti-capitalist / anti- US Constitution deposition. A true patriotic American would have thoroughly questioned Mr. Joseph's anti-liberty statements. Peter Joseph is essentially a white Barack Obama.
Peter Joseph's Ideologies are stupid and invalid to the way life itself works, I can't believe people would actually follow this fool because he can articulate well..I never heard more apathetic, contradicting statements in entire my life.. the Zeitgeist Movement is truly at the bottom of the barrel as far as the way life works.
@SeanJohnson1425 Life? that's easy.. Your born, You live, You die, As far as before that or after that? Is a different question, One that can't be told to you, it can only be found from within.. people can't decide for you, you'll come to your own conclusion. But as my own personal feelings.. I don't trust people who are so strongly involved in occults.. or gets their insights from people heavy in pagan ideology thus claiming Christ a sham.. "We can be as Gods.." that sounds familiar..
The christian issue is a problem because preachers work with the Goverment under a secular level and the problem with that is that the Bible will never be taught right because of that.
Both Alex and Peter are right to an extent. Should "intellectual growth" not work along side spiritual?Are they not two sides of the same coin? People do need to become self sufficient and be less reliant on the system, take back some power.
not really, if the vast majority sees the real values of humankind and nature, they live in total teamwork and symbiosis. The invidiuals that dont work right int he society would be recognised and removed, or dealt with. Its like the founding fathers of america. There was no1 to get more than the others, it was for the of the people.
I agree, I was commenting on what apears to be a lionizing of the founding fathers who were 2 faced at best. they wanted to create a debt free currency and govern themselves but it was never meant to be for and of the people. that was the rhetoric used to garner support for their sucsesion from britan. to use us as the british were for themselves.
This clip doesnt, I was commenting on your comment about "Its like the founding fathers of america. There was no1 to get more than the others, it was for the of the people." I was refuting this perpetuating myth that America once had just politicians and government. History shows this to be untrue(not this clip) so if you are asking me to prove that America never had this great free society I refer you to the above quote,if more evidence is needed ask.
A debt free currency allowed the wealthiest to impose debt on the colonist keeping the wealth of this nation here for them not abroad in Britain.The same plan as the British just implemented so theese arristocrates got to control the colonies wealth not the British.Our founding Fathers came from British Elite, they just fought for their succesion not ours.the debt free currency just made them not beholden t the Brits.Kept us beholden to them,the founding fathers.
society at that level of self awareness will not allow 1 person to victimize another.Would you stand by and watch a child be beaten, or a woman raped, or a child raped?Do you think all memebers of society would stand by and watch?Instead of trying to focus on how people might be different (which is small and irrellevant) focus on how we would be the same and you will see clearly that its possible.Rules as we know them are not needed.99% of crime is monetary based.
@zellymusic Exactly what I thought, ZeitGeist is the NWO's blueprint to make it look like total freedom emotionless utopia, that's basically what Joseph says and what is the goal of the NWO. He also contradicts himself on how this kind of life would be sustainable, doesn't give any type of answer to who will monitor who gets what, someone will always want to monitor!!!
Ignorance, lack of knowledge has been made clearly evident of hundred thousands of people`s comments on the internet about the Zeitgeist movies. People with subject knowledge do reason out more sensibly then those who have absolutely not even an idea on the subject matter. These are the very people who follow blindly with itching ears the deception presented by the Zeitgeist movies.
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I'm always thankful to anyone for trying to protect our rights, but this interview really shows that Alex Jone's is horrible at defending his own ideas. He has to act similar to O'reilly by always being the loudest and in control. That guy needs to stop yelling all the time. Peter Joseph is obviously more articulate and focused with his thoughts. You can see how much being out gunned on his own show bothers Jones.
@jayskyall Alex's ideas are concise as well ? You are like most so called pseudo-intellectuals that are conditioned to believe that for a person to be intelligent they have to speak with a monotone emotionally stable voice , irrespective of the content . You are a tofu eating emasculated loser ! Have fun in your F.E.M.A. camp coward.
@jimmi0082001 That being said, I do not think peter looked great in this interview. Alex did come off really bad, looking childish, but that is his passion coupled with inability to articulate what exactly it was he wanted to say. Peter did come off a little condescending, but his failure to clarify his point was obviously impatience with Alex yelling over him and insulting him. On viewpoints alone, i think the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.
the most educated person in the educational system is the one who learns the most crap that they make you learn and if u argue with the teacher and prove him wrong u get an F or 3-4
People should have the right to believe in whatever religion that they like.If i want to believe in a Mushroom God then it is my right,i wouldn't want somebody like Peter to tell me what i want to believe,he talks about Religion when it isn't mandatory to be in a religion it is voluntary.Also just because you are in a religion doesn't mean that your intellectual growth is stumped like Peter says.If that were true then Christians or other religions for example wouldn't be able to learn math,etc.
Any and all Alex Jones followers should do themselves a favor and listen to alex Jones broadcast of 12/31/99. After listening to ALEX'S COMPLETE AND TOTAL BULLSHIT you would need to be deaf dumb and blind to give any credibility to Alex Jones. He is beyond idiocy.
@anolmec Wow what a way to discredit someone, pull up an old show and say that's how it is. What about Peter Joseph? he gives some interesting points and can articulate well, but he contradicts himself over and over again. No one is perfect, but I prefer to listen to Alex Jones over Peter Joseph any day.
Alex Jones, you are rude. Let a person make his point. If it's a valid one, then stop arguing with him. If you have issue with it, then respond. But you should also make a point. Don't just blab about nothing for the sake of arguing. You make a fool of yourself.
@schtooch Funny how you fail to mention how Peter the delusional idiot had accused Alex of insulting him off air when he didn't and never apologized for it even when he was busted . WHat about how he cowardly said when he was "forced to use Madison Ave. marketing" and how he is" forced to sell " his shitty film ? Yet he said Alex uses Madison Ave. marketing for the same exact thing he is doing , yet his position is somehow unique because he is "Forced" . Where is your pseudo intellectual answer
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@jimmi0082001 I took it as him trying to make a point originally about how we are all forced to work with the stupid system. When Alex defensively jumped on him, Peter kept getting cut off while he was saying he wasn't attacking alex, he was trying to make a point. He did get frustrated and fail to clarify his point until much later when he said that he himself is also forced to whore his product, but that was the original point he was making. Alex's product was just a prime example.
Do you have any proof of what you say? No? Thought so.
Alex Jones made a fool of himself while arguing with Peter Joseph. Alex didn't make a single valid point. All he did was rant on and on and on about nothing relevant. But that's to be expected from Alex Jones. All he does is just talk out of his ass. Don't believe any of his conspiracy theory bullshit.
I like the argument but Alex is so challenged by his own solution to the problem at hand that the ultimate solution Joseph suggest is way way to far out there and complex to achieve or perceive at our current state. However I never heard these ideas argued about or debated until Zeitgeist., but like Alex projects, someone will always try to impose control of others. Evil does exist and so does good. It is man's perception of the two that defines him individually.
Peter really has a problem with religion. This is sad. I completely disagree with him on this point. I am a Buddhist and I believe in the right to practise your religion of choice. Religion is not a bad thing. Evil is a bad thing, and Peter doesn't seem to realise that we all have evil and good. Peter is obviously very spiritual but at the same time bashes religion; in my view, spirituality and religion are inseparable. Religion is the method to awaken our spirituality.
Religion and spirituality are not the same. Religion is culturally based. Spirituality is for what everyone has in common. I think this is the challenge for bringing Peters vision into fruition. there has to be a way for people to evolve spiritually. Without spiritual evolvement people are stuck in their ego's Religion is created by men that are stuck in their egos. As people develop their spirituality then they will be able to develop systems not based on control.
Peter has no things with religion. He will never attack someone for being religious. He is ultimately tolerant but he believes that, a) organized religion (such as christianity in the US) is a bad thing, and b) religion will disappear when and if his ideals are made real, because the value system of humans will have no place for fashion, money, and among other things religion.
Look, Peter doesn't see himself as a leader of the world he envisions. And religion although harmful to the world now (harmful overweighting the positive, so to say), will be irrelevant in the resource-based economy that is discussed. You "could" practice just about any religion you want so long as you don't impose your views on anyone else. It's just that religion, among other things like fashion or nationalism, will go naturally when the value system changes. There is no place for enforcement.
I believe Peter's view of how the world should be is sound, but it can't happen in one generation. There will HAVE to be a painful transition if it's going to happen quickly.
I agree. Adding that such pain will have a clear source; those who benefit from the status quo. For everyone else, they'll have a choice in the future, it should be easy...
- Choose "more of the same" proven to fail over & over; by the same interests who scare you into thinking things will get worse, by actively making them worse.
OR
- Choose something because it isn't what was before; choose better.
Hearing "we're not ready!" but the question then becomes... "If not now (right now), when?"
I agree completely, and have said the same before. Our generation, and unfortunately, possible the next, will have to be the laying foundation for the paradise we envision.
What peter joseph is doing, knowingly or unknowingly, is slowing down the path to a better society by rejecting what Alex is saying and refusing to fight. I imagine peter as a person going down in quick sand still trying to say what should happen in the future. Talking while sinking. Everyone in the CURRENT and PRESENT fight KEEP FIGHTING!
Isn't there enough war in the world? War on drugs, war on poverty, war on starvation, war on terrorism (the last one is ridiculous)? What's next - war on war? Because that's what the current prevalent system is - it is war because it feeds off of it.
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it's really not possible to be a guest on someone's show and be treated with such hostility after they ask you to explain your idea which they preconceive as a threat. The thesis of Zeitgeist threatens Alex Jones' entire show business-driven 'resistance movement.' This guy knows he's in entertainment, he plays it up as much as he can, and Zeitgeist is just too sound an argument. Watch "A Scanner Darkly" and you'll see how seriously Alex Jones takes his "Endgame" philosophy. Laughing to the bank.
That is a good explanation of the differences these two face when discussing these issues, especially the last statement.
Ultimately, they are both talking about the same thing. The people Alex Jones is focussing on are the main people in charge of the crisis across the globe, but it is the psychological tendencies Peter Joseph is talking about, which need to be eradicated, which are the true culprits behind the mentality of these people to continue what they are doing.
I've watch all of the videos for which the information they are discussing is presented, and I agree with both of them. PJ and AJ, along with everyone who understands the issues they present, must find common ground to understand that neither the "Oligarchs" nor the deeply-rooted tendencies of the human mind can be faced separately.
We must inform and give knowledge to the public so the tendencies begin to change, and the "oligarchs" are removed from limitless power over the world's population.
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Peter Joseph 00:56 seconds, "the New World Order will not change until you address the people that are at the very bottom and why they believe what they believe." In an earlier video Peter stated he doesn't believe there is evil in the world. And, in this video he states we all need to be re-educated. Educated how and according to who? This is NWO stuff.
re-education as in developing your critical thinking, developing creatively, not being limited by biases, creating a healthy environment that seeds desire to contribute beneficially to the world. its about growth, not stagnation, not destruction. this is not about a global power structure. this is about acknowledging that people and all life are not separated...people need to distinguish between necessities and what are conditioned pseudo-dependencies...no one needs to starve belly or mentally
We need to create the change and if we do "WE" will be the "LAST" remaining layer of this current corrupt system, like a nasty crusty old layer that will shed off and reveal the new.
The new borns will be introduced to this new environment from birth and will absorb all well beings of this new society and "WE" the last of the tainted society will age and shed away carrying all memories and behaviors of all that was corrupt and distorted.
Sounds like alex doesn't get the big picture of Peter's documentaries.
Alex talks about no money but rather bartering? that completely misses the point. if you have a barter system, it's no different. Someone is going to want a resource that they have nothing to trade for, and therefore they may commit a crime to gain the resource they couldn't trade for.. That's the whole point.
No one should own raw materials, oil, metal, wood, etc. We should all harvest it to build a community.
alex is a realist, he knows he is stuck in the world as we know it now, and wants this to be the best society it can. But I hope the world can one day be like Joseph says, but it will take many generations to come to fruition.
It blows my mind how Peter tries to nullify life experience, I was show in a way I can not even explain that God is real, so, what is he talking about it?
he neer said god is not real, not once, he said religion is false. eveidnce that there was intelligent design in this world is tantamount, but no, he never came to earth and said this is what u must do, these are all just stories used by people to control other people since ancient times
This wasnt half bad. Alex you did get really heated at the start, but you calmed down, and it didnt end badly, so its cool. good thing we can go beyond the 10% that we dont agree with.
Alex you acted like you were being insulted by everything the man said and played the devils advocate on points that go over your head. If you agree with 90%of what this man says then why didn't he speak 90%of the time. Peter is trying to explain how a world without an elite agenda could be possible and Alex stuck onthe idea that the establishment will always be there. So go ahead Alex,while pple like Peter are promoting a world community u are worried about whether ornot u can keep your f'n gun
If Alex Jones ever looked unprofessional this is it. I got to give Peter credit I would not to have the pittance to put up with Alexis crap. If he only know how bad this made him look.Peter defiantly won this debate and I will never pay 29.95 for Alexis stuff.
The only one making sense there is Peter. If religion, the educational system and the political systems work as tools for the "corporatocracy" to perpetuate their empire of scarcity, war and misery, then by changing the focus from profit (based on the controlled scarcity) to resources and sustainability, there's no point to wars and campaigns of terror (and their creators) once we overcome scarcity.
So Alex, why are asking things like "who is gonna enforce(...) having guns?" and such.
how is it possible, this fat egnorant prick, to even assume, that this circus he calls a show, has even the slitest resemblance to a dialogue where actuall arguments are presented?!?!?! by making a joke out of yourself and desperatly trying to provoke laughter doesnt mean that the laughs u get r because u r right! its because YOU ARE A JOKE MR JONES!
What do these two have in common? They're both STATISTS. Alex scares the hell out people with the COMING POLICE STATE! but then he wants to reform the government through political means(WTF?) While everyone is impatiently awaiting a police state that will never arrive, Peter's kinder and gentler communism will descend on the world like a soft net capturing a butterfly. And when currency dissappears a police state will be unnecessary, for you will have few choices.
Alex Jones is the emotional equivalent of Bill O'Reilly. Pathetic really. Too bad, as he does help to raise awareness on important issues but his character flaw is that he is resistant to listening and learning.
I agree with everything Peter Joseph says, especially on the stratifications and competition in the education systems. His ZA video helped me a lot in understanding his views and now once i start to form my own obsevations and opinions about other things i am glad that our views are similar and we think alike. He makes powerful ovservations that not many people in this society and time,in my opnion, could ever make, and I am enlightened that finally someone agrees and thinks similarly to me.
there will always be competition a man always has to prove he is better then the next man the earlies form of competition was for women you think it would not exhist in a resource based economy it has loose ends it is far from perfect but PJ brings up a very good theory/philosophy
well ok people dont know about the resource based economy but they do know about the injustice of the us in iraq and their fascist policies and nothing has been done how do you think change will come to the whole globe this is a good idea and a good theory but would it be could in practicality
Noone can fathom a life without a monetary system. Think about it! The whole world would be turned upside down. Why would the people who have the money and the power want to change the system to a non monetary COMON! This is good philosophical thinking, which has to be exepted by half the globe atleast and I dont see this happening.
So half the globe needs to think this way for it to work? When a very few people made the world what it is today, why cant a very few people change it aswell?
well these very few people who created this world didnt just all of a sudden do it this has been goin on for a thousand years it has to be changed at the tope and these people have to much power( money, control of institutions, all sorts of ideologies) i would loeve to see the world change into what PJ says but i dont see these people who have been setting up this agenda of control all of a sudden having a change of heart plain and simple im not being a pessimict im just being realistic.
This has not taken thousands of years. The real changes has happened within this last decade. Social control has ofc existed as long as humans have had the brains to do so. But this on a global scale has no existed for long, and with the power of a few people it can be brought down.
i disagree can you please reitterate your arguement im talking about monetary system vs. resource based economy and i feel its embedded to deep in the system along time ago for it to be changed
look at it this way; When people are made aware of a problem and join in on the group mentality that they can make a difference, they actually can make a difference. If the general population knew what we know about the monetary system and the resource based economy. Things would change, even if powerful people are trying to stop it. Like the enviromental issues like global warming, alot of powerful people tried to stop it. But it became "public knowledge" anyways. We can change anything
You both bring up important aspects, although I disagree on a couple of items. I believe a change cannot take place by the incentive of a few "revolutionaries" performing a coup d'etat or something to that effect. The general population has to be "freed" from their narrow mindset by ideas such as are presented by Alex and Peter. We have to be educated to such a degree so that the transition occures automaticaly, that is: it's not forced upon us, but becomes gradually acknowledged and accepted.
Alex can't even come close to fathoming the idea of a life with no monetary system. He keeps debating the wrong issues. Alex's does a lot of good and its important in the monetary system that we currently live in but the issues he tackles will always come back maybe in a new forms but never the less, where Peter's plan on a resourced based economy would work indefinitely. Its as if Alex needs someone to always be at war with...Kinda SAD
Unconditional love is the answer because we are all one
Alex Jones was so sad in this interview. Peter is trying to have an intellectual discussion and AJ is being absurd. Everyone is free to make their own decision, but you have to be open to new information and surely Alex has a problem even attempting to digest Peter's opinions. Sad Alex, Sad.
@domaysayjay9 lol
biscuitparty 1 month ago
fu*** that... True democracy and optional True socialism is the way to 2 go, 2 proven methods... fu*** cummunism, fu*** scammed democracy chose your leader either way u r fuc**ed, freedom of choice is not obligatory capitalism we can have optional socialism 4 everyone who wants that...
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LifeIsJustARide85 8 months ago
I watched the movie called "Demolition man" with Stallone and Wesley. It's a great movie depicting Zeitgeist type of society very nicely. Can it work? Yes, absolutely it can, the movies is the proof. Unfortunately the food is awful and there's no sex :( Now, Peter might not know that behind all of this are 9-11 satanists, or maybe he does know. Once the New Age system of idyllic harmony gets established, they'll soon find out that the human emotions are a serious problem and wil try to remove it
codergames 9 months ago
It's sad that Alex had to let this NWO shill get to him and make him lose his cool.
He should of just told him how much he disagrees and he respects his opinion. Joseph tells the truth about the Federal Reserve and I actually agree with him about Religion. But it's unrealistic and a LIE that technology is going to be shared by the people. It's going to be used to CONTROL everyone and WILL be abused by those that create it. It's foolish to think it won't be exploited.
timberwolves100 10 months ago
@timberwolves100 only in THIS system is technology being abbused. In a sane world where there is no differential advantage, there is nothing to exploit people with. Technology will provide goods and services just like today only on a massive scale and FREE so everyone can live a nice human life here on earth.
LifeIsJustARide85 8 months ago
the problem with this is that i agree with Alex on most of their points of difference here. however, unfortunately Alex puts his points across poorly in this interview and is downright rude when he doesnt need to be. this is a manic performance from AJ.
SuperRicecrackers 11 months ago
i like it when alex says its in all of us as an individual, look in the mirror if you want to find the bottom line problem...and the bottom line solution. but, obviously he misses his own bottom problem.
L89Fucy 1 year ago
Wooo! That was an awesome song!
amazinero 1 year ago
Merola is an idiot, the last people willing to give up their guns will be the ones that use them.
justintempler 1 year ago
Alexander The Grate- big douche-bag!!!
domaysayjay9 1 year ago
lol, Alex love's is gun! ;p understandable,but could that be a result of human conditioning?!
johnnycadilac1 1 year ago
I don't care if people accuse of being melodramatic, but this is actually one of the most relevant discussions of our generation (maybe localized to 2000+) it not only outlines PJ's ideas, but shows how he's able to defend himself and maintain his composure with great patience. At the same time it makes this prior ranking theorist out to be a moron, by his very own actions and accord. It separates the small minded thinking of the early 2000s to the intellectual strength we need for the future.
MyOnlyFarph 1 year ago 2
does alex want us to be amish
myloginmylogin 1 year ago
Alex Jones Pay attention and leave your core beliefs. Us against them, listen to yourself. Typical hillbilly mentality.
jjmsthunder 1 year ago
Alex Jones Pay attention and leave your core beliefs. Us against them, listen to yourself.
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blootrax 1 year ago
the reason that the venus project is different from the older institutions that alex jones is afraid of is M O N E Y ! money has always been used to devide us.
moochabod 1 year ago
@moochabod
Things like communism aren't feared because of money, they are feared because they're totalitarian.
Having a highly technological civilisation, with automated production of goods and personal space ships, is obviously very preferable but any ideology that is based upon fundamentally changing human beings, like communism, is potentially the most dangerous ideology possible. There's not enough scepticism about TVP.
It's not even like TVP has a monopoly on tech advancement anyway...
RPFS2008 1 year ago
@RPFS2008 i agree its scary,and im one who dreams of a reality where this idea would work,not needing to worry of those whod try to horde power.but, there are so many who are involved,and if that intimate relationship with the people could continue,i think its possible,though it could also go wrong if let.these types of worries can be addressed on a large scale within the community.have you seen any of the other interviews of peter joseph?hes very smart and im sure hes well aware of the dangers
moochabod 1 year ago
@moochabod
I've been watching interviews with Fresco. Much of what he says is very good, infact many of the problems Zeitgeist points out (other than the NWO/911 conspiracy junk) are valid but their seems to me that there is a lack of understanding of the free market and thus the remedies (TVP).
"hes very smart and im sure hes well aware of the dangers"
Don't take this the a bad way, but this kind of trust is an example of a lack of scepticism regarding TZM/TVP.
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@RPFS2008
*this in a bad way
RPFS2008 1 year ago
@RPFS2008 ...also, it would be hard to control people without an enslaving device such as money.
moochabod 1 year ago
It just occured to me, when they were talkin about guns, peter said that people I would be educated to know they don´t need guns. It´s the same manipulation that he attacks, he doesn´t give an individual the chance to want guns for pleasure. Some ideas of Peter doesn´t add up. The educational system would have to be programmed by a tiny group of people, the same way that is today, deciding what to think. "No sheperd, for his only existance, wants you to be free"
rodnymorash 1 year ago
Alex, very childish.
ooohdannyboy 1 year ago
peter joseph sounds like a luciferan elitist that wants to disprove religoin and live by laws of nature
vandam7002 1 year ago
@vandam7002
Yup. I guess you can call anyone who challenges religion a luciferian, yup, I guess you can call me a goat worshiper and a person who sacrifices animals.
Germanboy567 1 year ago
@vandam7002
i agree
PacmanBonez 1 year ago
Joseph says everything will be monitored to distribute resources equally, but that no one will be there to enforce it... that's a complete oxymoron. Even without money, there will be people that WILL try to control things. Animals even control things! There is no utopia, yet Joseph isn't making sense because he's describing a utopia but then says there is no perfect World.
CartoonPoem 1 year ago
I'm all for the Zietgiest system, what a wonderful world it would be. What Peter is saying is that WE all humans have to be responsible and care for our world. Each individual has to see in one direction if we are to survive.
CharlesMCavarra 1 year ago
the biggest difference is Peter believes in the society and what is and what could be. and Alex belives in the individual and what is and what was. Alex wants to go back to the greatness of the past. Peter wants to the greatness of the future. Peter wants to evolve us socially. Alex fears change.
TheNar2012 1 year ago
@r3m1x24 or Kants view of doing both
SeanJohnson1425 1 year ago
What Peter is saying is all great in "theory". Evil does exist, right now in this world. It is a result of "human conditioning" along with our ability to make "choices" (yes or no, on or off, right or wrong, 1 or 0, good or bad). What Peter is suggesting is, at this stage of evolution, a fantasy and would be abused beyond our wildest dreams by some form of elitist power structure. Alex is correct by saying this is what IMF is trying to sell us NOW and it has "hidden agenda" written all over it!
jcapvip 1 year ago
so I understand what peter joshep is saying, he is saying that we should all work for good of society and re-educate our self and condition ourselves so we will have society without division, and driven for material. hmmmm.... I think I heard that before where did I hear that??? Oh right I heard from my ole friend Marx.
rockyoh 1 year ago
@rockyoh Yes but Marx's ideals was still WITHIN a monetary system of engagement, so what peter is saying is under different contexts now that the monetary system is taken out of the account
SeanJohnson1425 1 year ago
The satan is a real intelligent entity that does not possess a physical body, that means you cannot see it not with your 5 sense human reasoning and comprehension. Until we all see things spiritually then and only then will the human population do things naturally, it is a choice in whom we serve, we make that choice with every thought and ACTion.
ACTS = legislated rules of society, what do our ACTIONS represent? Do they represent people who want to change the world into a peace loving planet?
zacfromorchardpark 1 year ago
That is why the family unit is disintegrating and that there are children born out of wedlock, because the satan is against all of the created and meant to work features of the design called human and GOD created human so that puts the satan at odd with GOD. The satan want to destroy everything.
zacfromorchardpark 1 year ago
Peter is speaking correctly, if all people of all nations thought as we all own everything and nothing, then the problems of this world would go away.
WE NEED to change OURSELVES, not try to change the external system.
This worlds system is total anarchy already, democracy does not exist.
Why not try a Theocratic Order, one ruled purely by heaven alone. Recognise the child of heaven within.
zacfromorchardpark 1 year ago
I will go further and say that Peter Joseph is possibly an "operative" of the Council On Foreign Relations. He is a "Neo-Stalinist". I wouldn't be surprised if he's funded with Rockefeller capital? I also question Alex Jones's patriotism for giving this individual a platform for his anti-Christian / anti-capitalist / anti- US Constitution deposition. A true patriotic American would have thoroughly questioned Mr. Joseph's anti-liberty statements. Peter Joseph is essentially a white Barack Obama.
AlembicVapor 1 year ago
maybe he's doing a swan-dive on purpose in order bolster a new Plan?
plus:- his eyebrows move indepently of each other. but apart from that nothing will ever change until the sun gets to warm to support life
jrjupton 1 year ago
Peter Joseph's Ideologies are stupid and invalid to the way life itself works, I can't believe people would actually follow this fool because he can articulate well..I never heard more apathetic, contradicting statements in entire my life.. the Zeitgeist Movement is truly at the bottom of the barrel as far as the way life works.
CrazyKing570 1 year ago
@CrazyKing570 can you please enlighten me on how life works then?
SeanJohnson1425 1 year ago
@SeanJohnson1425 Life? that's easy.. Your born, You live, You die, As far as before that or after that? Is a different question, One that can't be told to you, it can only be found from within.. people can't decide for you, you'll come to your own conclusion. But as my own personal feelings.. I don't trust people who are so strongly involved in occults.. or gets their insights from people heavy in pagan ideology thus claiming Christ a sham.. "We can be as Gods.." that sounds familiar..
CrazyKing570 1 year ago
don't ever go on that show with that fat prat
raymondsinclair4 1 year ago
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The only religion that is sick is the religion promoted by Peter Joseph.
He is a sick satanist.
GoodGuy4life199 1 year ago
why do you think so ?
pepakake27 1 year ago
@GoodGuy4life199 hahahahahahahaha nice joke
SeanJohnson1425 1 year ago
The christian issue is a problem because preachers work with the Goverment under a secular level and the problem with that is that the Bible will never be taught right because of that.
comeau1234567 2 years ago
OMG Why did PJ have to talk about religion ? ! Doesn't he know that AJ is a Protestant Christian ?
LorentJovet 2 years ago
dude
clebmedia 2 years ago
pause on 4:25 hahahaha!!! Alex just wants Peter to fight with him!
BestBefore111189 2 years ago
Both Alex and Peter are right to an extent. Should "intellectual growth" not work along side spiritual?Are they not two sides of the same coin? People do need to become self sufficient and be less reliant on the system, take back some power.
MsCread 2 years ago
My question is the same as Alex, Who is the one that RE educates?
Who Decides if Guns are needed?
Peter lives in this idea that we wll some how will all desire the exact same thing no more no less.
There will allways be someone who wants more than everyone else! There will allways be someone who whats to not follow the rules!
zellymusic 2 years ago
not really, if the vast majority sees the real values of humankind and nature, they live in total teamwork and symbiosis. The invidiuals that dont work right int he society would be recognised and removed, or dealt with. Its like the founding fathers of america. There was no1 to get more than the others, it was for the of the people.
Hypnosiz 2 years ago 3
@Hypnosiz
"There needs to be a strong central government to protect the minority of the opulant from the majority"
James Madison(American Constitutional Framer)
99missingperson99 2 years ago
i think that only applys to currency based economy.
Hypnosiz 2 years ago
I agree, I was commenting on what apears to be a lionizing of the founding fathers who were 2 faced at best. they wanted to create a debt free currency and govern themselves but it was never meant to be for and of the people. that was the rhetoric used to garner support for their sucsesion from britan. to use us as the british were for themselves.
99missingperson99 2 years ago
where does this show that they wanted to control it themselves and how would they do it with debt free currency?
Hypnosiz 2 years ago
This clip doesnt, I was commenting on your comment about "Its like the founding fathers of america. There was no1 to get more than the others, it was for the of the people." I was refuting this perpetuating myth that America once had just politicians and government. History shows this to be untrue(not this clip) so if you are asking me to prove that America never had this great free society I refer you to the above quote,if more evidence is needed ask.
99missingperson99 2 years ago
A debt free currency allowed the wealthiest to impose debt on the colonist keeping the wealth of this nation here for them not abroad in Britain.The same plan as the British just implemented so theese arristocrates got to control the colonies wealth not the British.Our founding Fathers came from British Elite, they just fought for their succesion not ours.the debt free currency just made them not beholden t the Brits.Kept us beholden to them,the founding fathers.
99missingperson99 2 years ago
Yes more (even some lol) evidence thanks.
Hypnosiz 2 years ago
@zellymusic
society at that level of self awareness will not allow 1 person to victimize another.Would you stand by and watch a child be beaten, or a woman raped, or a child raped?Do you think all memebers of society would stand by and watch?Instead of trying to focus on how people might be different (which is small and irrellevant) focus on how we would be the same and you will see clearly that its possible.Rules as we know them are not needed.99% of crime is monetary based.
99missingperson99 2 years ago
Dammit, seriously ? 99% ? Where do you get than number from ? If it's true then the Venus project is the best solution
LorentJovet 2 years ago
@zellymusic Exactly what I thought, ZeitGeist is the NWO's blueprint to make it look like total freedom emotionless utopia, that's basically what Joseph says and what is the goal of the NWO. He also contradicts himself on how this kind of life would be sustainable, doesn't give any type of answer to who will monitor who gets what, someone will always want to monitor!!!
CartoonPoem 1 year ago
@CartoonPoem Pay attention.
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papimerki 2 years ago
I'm always thankful to anyone for trying to protect our rights, but this interview really shows that Alex Jone's is horrible at defending his own ideas. He has to act similar to O'reilly by always being the loudest and in control. That guy needs to stop yelling all the time. Peter Joseph is obviously more articulate and focused with his thoughts. You can see how much being out gunned on his own show bothers Jones.
jayskyall 2 years ago 34
@jayskyall more articulate and focused with his thoughts and to what end
tonyteb 1 year ago
@jayskyall Alex's ideas are concise as well ? You are like most so called pseudo-intellectuals that are conditioned to believe that for a person to be intelligent they have to speak with a monotone emotionally stable voice , irrespective of the content . You are a tofu eating emasculated loser ! Have fun in your F.E.M.A. camp coward.
jimmi0082001 1 year ago
@jimmi0082001 That being said, I do not think peter looked great in this interview. Alex did come off really bad, looking childish, but that is his passion coupled with inability to articulate what exactly it was he wanted to say. Peter did come off a little condescending, but his failure to clarify his point was obviously impatience with Alex yelling over him and insulting him. On viewpoints alone, i think the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.
dreaminginnoother 11 months ago
the most educated person in the educational system is the one who learns the most crap that they make you learn and if u argue with the teacher and prove him wrong u get an F or 3-4
pidromonz 2 years ago 3
People should have the right to believe in whatever religion that they like.If i want to believe in a Mushroom God then it is my right,i wouldn't want somebody like Peter to tell me what i want to believe,he talks about Religion when it isn't mandatory to be in a religion it is voluntary.Also just because you are in a religion doesn't mean that your intellectual growth is stumped like Peter says.If that were true then Christians or other religions for example wouldn't be able to learn math,etc.
JWLSR17 2 years ago
@JWLSR17
didnt they persecute Galileo for saying that the earth was not the center of the universe?
99missingperson99 2 years ago
Any and all Alex Jones followers should do themselves a favor and listen to alex Jones broadcast of 12/31/99. After listening to ALEX'S COMPLETE AND TOTAL BULLSHIT you would need to be deaf dumb and blind to give any credibility to Alex Jones. He is beyond idiocy.
anolmec 2 years ago
that show from that date is here on youtube
JacYodac 2 years ago
@anolmec Wow what a way to discredit someone, pull up an old show and say that's how it is. What about Peter Joseph? he gives some interesting points and can articulate well, but he contradicts himself over and over again. No one is perfect, but I prefer to listen to Alex Jones over Peter Joseph any day.
CartoonPoem 1 year ago
Science has nothing to do with the system... Trade and profit is the system...
Fixfax23 2 years ago
You know,Peter this system has already been invented. Its called science isn't it ?
(I could be a better interviewer than Alex,i know when to shut up))
MexxPowers 2 years ago 6
Alex Jones, you are rude. Let a person make his point. If it's a valid one, then stop arguing with him. If you have issue with it, then respond. But you should also make a point. Don't just blab about nothing for the sake of arguing. You make a fool of yourself.
schtooch 2 years ago 54
@schtooch Funny how you fail to mention how Peter the delusional idiot had accused Alex of insulting him off air when he didn't and never apologized for it even when he was busted . WHat about how he cowardly said when he was "forced to use Madison Ave. marketing" and how he is" forced to sell " his shitty film ? Yet he said Alex uses Madison Ave. marketing for the same exact thing he is doing , yet his position is somehow unique because he is "Forced" . Where is your pseudo intellectual answer
jimmi0082001 1 year ago
@jimmi0082001
Alex Jones is laughing at you while he's on his way to the bank.
Go on and drink his kool aid. Go on and buy into his conspiracy theory bullshit. He's laughing at you and counting his money.
schtooch 1 year ago
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TheAnubisDrake 1 year ago 2
@jimmi0082001 I took it as him trying to make a point originally about how we are all forced to work with the stupid system. When Alex defensively jumped on him, Peter kept getting cut off while he was saying he wasn't attacking alex, he was trying to make a point. He did get frustrated and fail to clarify his point until much later when he said that he himself is also forced to whore his product, but that was the original point he was making. Alex's product was just a prime example.
dreaminginnoother 11 months ago
@jimmi0082001
Do you have any proof of what you say? No? Thought so.
Alex Jones made a fool of himself while arguing with Peter Joseph. Alex didn't make a single valid point. All he did was rant on and on and on about nothing relevant. But that's to be expected from Alex Jones. All he does is just talk out of his ass. Don't believe any of his conspiracy theory bullshit.
schtooch 5 months ago
I like the argument but Alex is so challenged by his own solution to the problem at hand that the ultimate solution Joseph suggest is way way to far out there and complex to achieve or perceive at our current state. However I never heard these ideas argued about or debated until Zeitgeist., but like Alex projects, someone will always try to impose control of others. Evil does exist and so does good. It is man's perception of the two that defines him individually.
Arginine88 2 years ago 4
I apoligize for calling you a fucking IDIOT. I was just getting pissed while listening to you. I still think you're ignorant...
TheHippness 2 years ago
Peter really has a problem with religion. This is sad. I completely disagree with him on this point. I am a Buddhist and I believe in the right to practise your religion of choice. Religion is not a bad thing. Evil is a bad thing, and Peter doesn't seem to realise that we all have evil and good. Peter is obviously very spiritual but at the same time bashes religion; in my view, spirituality and religion are inseparable. Religion is the method to awaken our spirituality.
Sammicsno 2 years ago
Religion and spirituality are not the same. Religion is culturally based. Spirituality is for what everyone has in common. I think this is the challenge for bringing Peters vision into fruition. there has to be a way for people to evolve spiritually. Without spiritual evolvement people are stuck in their ego's Religion is created by men that are stuck in their egos. As people develop their spirituality then they will be able to develop systems not based on control.
SacredSpaceRetreats 2 years ago 2
Peter has no things with religion. He will never attack someone for being religious. He is ultimately tolerant but he believes that, a) organized religion (such as christianity in the US) is a bad thing, and b) religion will disappear when and if his ideals are made real, because the value system of humans will have no place for fashion, money, and among other things religion.
goldragon988 2 years ago 4
Heaven forbid! I believe in freedom, including the freedom to practise the religion of your choice.
Sammicsno 2 years ago
Look, Peter doesn't see himself as a leader of the world he envisions. And religion although harmful to the world now (harmful overweighting the positive, so to say), will be irrelevant in the resource-based economy that is discussed. You "could" practice just about any religion you want so long as you don't impose your views on anyone else. It's just that religion, among other things like fashion or nationalism, will go naturally when the value system changes. There is no place for enforcement.
goldragon988 2 years ago 3
ALEX IS SICK!!!
sinanaja 2 years ago
This guy Peter Joseph is smart
i would vote for him
redlineroberts 2 years ago 6
I believe Peter's view of how the world should be is sound, but it can't happen in one generation. There will HAVE to be a painful transition if it's going to happen quickly.
FAX420 2 years ago 5
I agree. Adding that such pain will have a clear source; those who benefit from the status quo. For everyone else, they'll have a choice in the future, it should be easy...
- Choose "more of the same" proven to fail over & over; by the same interests who scare you into thinking things will get worse, by actively making them worse.
OR
- Choose something because it isn't what was before; choose better.
Hearing "we're not ready!" but the question then becomes... "If not now (right now), when?"
casemon 2 years ago
I agree completely, and have said the same before. Our generation, and unfortunately, possible the next, will have to be the laying foundation for the paradise we envision.
BeyondDGrave 2 years ago
Well America is collapsing and when it finally does, probably within 2 years or less, the world can see lasting meaningful change.
xPythox 2 years ago
What peter joseph is doing, knowingly or unknowingly, is slowing down the path to a better society by rejecting what Alex is saying and refusing to fight. I imagine peter as a person going down in quick sand still trying to say what should happen in the future. Talking while sinking. Everyone in the CURRENT and PRESENT fight KEEP FIGHTING!
cityoffresno 2 years ago
Isn't there enough war in the world? War on drugs, war on poverty, war on starvation, war on terrorism (the last one is ridiculous)? What's next - war on war? Because that's what the current prevalent system is - it is war because it feeds off of it.
goldragon988 2 years ago
Agreed.
"War on war." is a lot of peoples mentality unfortunately.
We need to address root causes.
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EnveBeats 2 years ago
does AJ have a mirror to his right? that everytime he feels like he's making a point he looks to it and smiles at himself?
mrbridges05 2 years ago
it's really not possible to be a guest on someone's show and be treated with such hostility after they ask you to explain your idea which they preconceive as a threat. The thesis of Zeitgeist threatens Alex Jones' entire show business-driven 'resistance movement.' This guy knows he's in entertainment, he plays it up as much as he can, and Zeitgeist is just too sound an argument. Watch "A Scanner Darkly" and you'll see how seriously Alex Jones takes his "Endgame" philosophy. Laughing to the bank.
exploitmankind 2 years ago
An Armed Society is a polite society and the weapon will be the art of peace Ai Ki Do
ShiroiLong 2 years ago
Peter Joseph doesn't understand what AJ is talking about because they don't agree on who the enemy is.
PJ sees the enemy as backwards outdated ideas, but AJ thinks the enemy is evil oligarch who are disguised as people who want to expand `democracy'.
Though ultimately I'd agree with Joseph, I'd sooner trust Jones to actually get people there.
PJ is top down. AJ is bottom up.
CRAPCANNONS 2 years ago 4
That is a good explanation of the differences these two face when discussing these issues, especially the last statement.
Ultimately, they are both talking about the same thing. The people Alex Jones is focussing on are the main people in charge of the crisis across the globe, but it is the psychological tendencies Peter Joseph is talking about, which need to be eradicated, which are the true culprits behind the mentality of these people to continue what they are doing.
DRCSBoivin 2 years ago
I've watch all of the videos for which the information they are discussing is presented, and I agree with both of them. PJ and AJ, along with everyone who understands the issues they present, must find common ground to understand that neither the "Oligarchs" nor the deeply-rooted tendencies of the human mind can be faced separately.
We must inform and give knowledge to the public so the tendencies begin to change, and the "oligarchs" are removed from limitless power over the world's population.
DRCSBoivin 2 years ago
AJ is correct but like he said
he is on about the now
Peter is on about the future
AJ just cant accept ideas and cant think ahead or outside the box
plus hes rude and annoying!
iamrathercool12121 3 years ago 4
Poeple like alex jones are worse than the elite who rule this world...the ppl who play down the middle.
acali24 3 years ago
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Peter Joseph 00:56 seconds, "the New World Order will not change until you address the people that are at the very bottom and why they believe what they believe." In an earlier video Peter stated he doesn't believe there is evil in the world. And, in this video he states we all need to be re-educated. Educated how and according to who? This is NWO stuff.
hplaserjet2001 3 years ago
re-education as in developing your critical thinking, developing creatively, not being limited by biases, creating a healthy environment that seeds desire to contribute beneficially to the world. its about growth, not stagnation, not destruction. this is not about a global power structure. this is about acknowledging that people and all life are not separated...people need to distinguish between necessities and what are conditioned pseudo-dependencies...no one needs to starve belly or mentally
crowwithacookie 3 years ago 6
We need to create the change and if we do "WE" will be the "LAST" remaining layer of this current corrupt system, like a nasty crusty old layer that will shed off and reveal the new.
The new borns will be introduced to this new environment from birth and will absorb all well beings of this new society and "WE" the last of the tainted society will age and shed away carrying all memories and behaviors of all that was corrupt and distorted.
mototsprotot 3 years ago
Sounds like alex doesn't get the big picture of Peter's documentaries.
Alex talks about no money but rather bartering? that completely misses the point. if you have a barter system, it's no different. Someone is going to want a resource that they have nothing to trade for, and therefore they may commit a crime to gain the resource they couldn't trade for.. That's the whole point.
No one should own raw materials, oil, metal, wood, etc. We should all harvest it to build a community.
doobiest420 3 years ago 3
alex is foolish
SmGard 3 years ago
alex is a realist, he knows he is stuck in the world as we know it now, and wants this to be the best society it can. But I hope the world can one day be like Joseph says, but it will take many generations to come to fruition.
patrickdotts88 3 years ago
It blows my mind how Peter tries to nullify life experience, I was show in a way I can not even explain that God is real, so, what is he talking about it?
his own life experience.
spydat3k 3 years ago
he neer said god is not real, not once, he said religion is false. eveidnce that there was intelligent design in this world is tantamount, but no, he never came to earth and said this is what u must do, these are all just stories used by people to control other people since ancient times
xXFooXx 3 years ago
WHATS WITH THE CUTTING WHENEVER PETER IS TALKING?!
Why are you hiding alex?? WHAT are you hiding alex??
kvbrock82 3 years ago
hahaha he just wants to be a cowboy
mechazaowa 3 years ago
This wasnt half bad. Alex you did get really heated at the start, but you calmed down, and it didnt end badly, so its cool. good thing we can go beyond the 10% that we dont agree with.
WtfJuju 3 years ago
dude alex, CUDOS on the taser reform. THANKS!
eTernaLBOWLING 3 years ago
Alex you acted like you were being insulted by everything the man said and played the devils advocate on points that go over your head. If you agree with 90%of what this man says then why didn't he speak 90%of the time. Peter is trying to explain how a world without an elite agenda could be possible and Alex stuck onthe idea that the establishment will always be there. So go ahead Alex,while pple like Peter are promoting a world community u are worried about whether ornot u can keep your f'n gun
troublecalls 3 years ago 2
Hey, Peter Joseph should have his own radio show.
zelikris 3 years ago 4
ALEX JONES = BILL O'REILLY
y is he like this? i thought he was like a good guy. he isn't even letting peter joseph speak.
basketballaddt 3 years ago 2
Peter Joseph is 100% correct.
Even though I listen to Jones, he is acting like an imbecile.
Juvebeck10 3 years ago 5
alex was a complete ass but at least he did appologize near the end..even if it was only a small appology
toadyboy20 3 years ago
I wish this was just peter joseph talking. everytime alex jones talks its like nails on a chalk board
CondemnedPatriot 3 years ago 4
If Alex Jones ever looked unprofessional this is it. I got to give Peter credit I would not to have the pittance to put up with Alexis crap. If he only know how bad this made him look.Peter defiantly won this debate and I will never pay 29.95 for Alexis stuff.
23stude 3 years ago 2
The only one making sense there is Peter. If religion, the educational system and the political systems work as tools for the "corporatocracy" to perpetuate their empire of scarcity, war and misery, then by changing the focus from profit (based on the controlled scarcity) to resources and sustainability, there's no point to wars and campaigns of terror (and their creators) once we overcome scarcity.
So Alex, why are asking things like "who is gonna enforce(...) having guns?" and such.
Pectiniculus 3 years ago
Alex can't listen. He seems to be trying, but he just attacks in spite of himself.
misterkel10 3 years ago 2
ALEX JONES = REDNECK
bozzleman 3 years ago
peter josephs wrong to say religions stop intellectual development tho as it naturally entails reading itself a form of education
bozzleman 3 years ago
how is it possible, this fat egnorant prick, to even assume, that this circus he calls a show, has even the slitest resemblance to a dialogue where actuall arguments are presented?!?!?! by making a joke out of yourself and desperatly trying to provoke laughter doesnt mean that the laughs u get r because u r right! its because YOU ARE A JOKE MR JONES!
alxstv 3 years ago
What do these two have in common? They're both STATISTS. Alex scares the hell out people with the COMING POLICE STATE! but then he wants to reform the government through political means(WTF?) While everyone is impatiently awaiting a police state that will never arrive, Peter's kinder and gentler communism will descend on the world like a soft net capturing a butterfly. And when currency dissappears a police state will be unnecessary, for you will have few choices.
THEY'RE IN CAHOOTS!!!!
brainwash45 3 years ago
Alex Jones is the emotional equivalent of Bill O'Reilly. Pathetic really. Too bad, as he does help to raise awareness on important issues but his character flaw is that he is resistant to listening and learning.
He's a slave to his own ideas.
And the irony of that is staggering.
SavannahsRUs 3 years ago 3
Boo alex.. boo
wexarexthexStorm 3 years ago 3
alex jones is completely outmatched and outclassed in this interview.
ROGIBIV 3 years ago 7
I agree with everything Peter Joseph says, especially on the stratifications and competition in the education systems. His ZA video helped me a lot in understanding his views and now once i start to form my own obsevations and opinions about other things i am glad that our views are similar and we think alike. He makes powerful ovservations that not many people in this society and time,in my opnion, could ever make, and I am enlightened that finally someone agrees and thinks similarly to me.
straitupballa 3 years ago 6
there will always be competition a man always has to prove he is better then the next man the earlies form of competition was for women you think it would not exhist in a resource based economy it has loose ends it is far from perfect but PJ brings up a very good theory/philosophy
milzz100 3 years ago
well ok people dont know about the resource based economy but they do know about the injustice of the us in iraq and their fascist policies and nothing has been done how do you think change will come to the whole globe this is a good idea and a good theory but would it be could in practicality
milzz100 3 years ago
PJ sounds very good hes very articulate he needs to take his point of view to congress like Jeremy Scahill
milzz100 3 years ago
I just figured it out with a calculator..PJ is 236 times smarter than Alex Jones.. better abs too, probably.
CLINTSZAF 3 years ago
LOL!
willmolinar 3 years ago
omg buddy shut the fuck up your EMBARRASSING yourself.. joesph is standing his ground tho!
hatinhayden 3 years ago
Alex Jones is a blithering babbling buffoon.
Rahab111222 3 years ago
both of these guys are extremely annoying when brought together...
brett2525 3 years ago
Noone can fathom a life without a monetary system. Think about it! The whole world would be turned upside down. Why would the people who have the money and the power want to change the system to a non monetary COMON! This is good philosophical thinking, which has to be exepted by half the globe atleast and I dont see this happening.
milzz100 3 years ago
So half the globe needs to think this way for it to work? When a very few people made the world what it is today, why cant a very few people change it aswell?
Masterfuryx 3 years ago
well these very few people who created this world didnt just all of a sudden do it this has been goin on for a thousand years it has to be changed at the tope and these people have to much power( money, control of institutions, all sorts of ideologies) i would loeve to see the world change into what PJ says but i dont see these people who have been setting up this agenda of control all of a sudden having a change of heart plain and simple im not being a pessimict im just being realistic.
milzz100 3 years ago
This has not taken thousands of years. The real changes has happened within this last decade. Social control has ofc existed as long as humans have had the brains to do so. But this on a global scale has no existed for long, and with the power of a few people it can be brought down.
Masterfuryx 3 years ago
i disagree can you please reitterate your arguement im talking about monetary system vs. resource based economy and i feel its embedded to deep in the system along time ago for it to be changed
milzz100 3 years ago
look at it this way; When people are made aware of a problem and join in on the group mentality that they can make a difference, they actually can make a difference. If the general population knew what we know about the monetary system and the resource based economy. Things would change, even if powerful people are trying to stop it. Like the enviromental issues like global warming, alot of powerful people tried to stop it. But it became "public knowledge" anyways. We can change anything
Masterfuryx 3 years ago
and what has changed have the large corporations stopped dumping waste for example in the ocean that global warming shit is a hoax man
milzz100 3 years ago
You both bring up important aspects, although I disagree on a couple of items. I believe a change cannot take place by the incentive of a few "revolutionaries" performing a coup d'etat or something to that effect. The general population has to be "freed" from their narrow mindset by ideas such as are presented by Alex and Peter. We have to be educated to such a degree so that the transition occures automaticaly, that is: it's not forced upon us, but becomes gradually acknowledged and accepted.
FenTel 3 years ago 2
Couldnt have said it any better
philosoisgrt 3 years ago 2
With this in mind, the only "revolution" that takes place is within each individual's mind, so that the "evolution" of our society can happen.
FenTel 3 years ago 2
Alex can't even come close to fathoming the idea of a life with no monetary system. He keeps debating the wrong issues. Alex's does a lot of good and its important in the monetary system that we currently live in but the issues he tackles will always come back maybe in a new forms but never the less, where Peter's plan on a resourced based economy would work indefinitely. Its as if Alex needs someone to always be at war with...Kinda SAD
Unconditional love is the answer because we are all one
ExplicitContent81 3 years ago 3
Alex kill the "EGO"
drmihailo 3 years ago 2
Exactaly!!!!
vegnagunL 3 years ago
Alex Jones was so sad in this interview. Peter is trying to have an intellectual discussion and AJ is being absurd. Everyone is free to make their own decision, but you have to be open to new information and surely Alex has a problem even attempting to digest Peter's opinions. Sad Alex, Sad.
TheTophaLoaf 3 years ago 6
Alex likes fighting.
EB88 3 years ago
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Alex ROcks!
ave383 3 years ago
ALEX IS A LOSER
PYTHAGORAS101 3 years ago 4