Pros and Cons with Adolf Hitler: The Democratic Party

[lizardman563]

wanna know what i think?

politics suck so shut your fat traps.

[downfallzawesome]

i never thought i'd agree with hitler on politics. sure it's downfall parodies hitler but still

[JunierMahri246]

Do pros and cons with hitler: Communism

[ClickyStudios]

lol

[n2yem]

KakashiBallZ what party are you

[AntiVenomFangX]

its up to the republicans wether or not the democrats pass a bill.

its up to the democrats for the republicans to pass a bill.

now if those democrats were adult, and the republicans were children who "hold their breath till they get what they want" what do you think would happen?

you guessed it. eveentually the dems will let a bill pass because its embarrassing to be a child. and the republicans dont care how they look, becaus eif you criticize them you are anti american and hate jesus.

[KakashiBallZ]

@AntiVenomFangX I agree with your first statement. However the republicans can pass whatever they want, with or without dem support. And the third and fourth paragraphs are by far the best analogies I've ever heard regarding the current situation.

[MasterEled]

@AntiVenomFangX If you "hold your breath until you get what you want" you either start breathing again or you pass out, in any case you do not get what you want.

None of those statements have any logical resolution but number three and four make no sense whatsoever. First you call the Republicans a "child" then implicitly the Democrats.

Republicans are assholes, Democrats are self-righteous assholes. Win/Win situation.

[MasterEled]

If you need proof look at their stance on homosexuality. Why the hell do they have a "stance" on that?

Republicans don't want sex among people of the same gender to occur.

Democrats want more same gender sex.

How is "the good of our country" gauged by who other people are having sex with? Technically Two politicians having sex would be gay regardless of gender, that is what happens when you have two dicks in one bed.

[jzcrandall]

So much win I lost count

[summzzxoxo]

genius, i love it

[DarkAngelSupreme]

Isn't it unfair to associate the word vagina with weakness? Or indeed anything female?

lol, by the way.

[AntiVenomFangX]

@DarkAngelSupreme

no because females are weaker. this is no mystery.

[DarkAngelSupreme]

@AntiVenomFangX Define weakness.

[AntiVenomFangX]

@DarkAngelSupreme

weakness in overall physical strength.

[DarkAngelSupreme]

@AntiVenomFangX The statement holds so long as that is all that it refers to.

[AntiVenomFangX]

@DarkAngelSupreme

did you think it refered to something else? if ye sthen what caused these insecurities?

[DarkAngelSupreme]

@AntiVenomFangX I did, as the video inferred that all members of the Democratic Party are "pussies" as they are apparently too weak to be able to pass laws. In this sense, the video is associating femininity with non-physical weakness, which is entirely bigoted and irrational, in my opinion. However, I can completely understand how one could come to that conclusion considering the pathetic and unrealistic stereotype that contemporary societies like to paint of femininity and females in general.

[AntiVenomFangX]

@DarkAngelSupreme

i dont think as much thought went into it as you think it did. it touches a primitive nerve in the general public.

i just think you are fighting a fight against ignorance, which is impossible. thats like saying you someday hope that sports rivalries are going to end. its human nature. women do it to men, men do it to women.

it doesn't hurt most like it seems to hurt you.

[DarkAngelSupreme]

I believe quite a lot of thought has gone into the engineering of social stereotypes so as to undermine some "class" or "genre" of people that are superficially different to the engineers.

The same could also have been said about racial prejudices in the US prior to the abolition of slavery. That too was a fight against ignorance. An ignorance that developes from a fear which is supposedly innate in human nature.

Bigotry and separatism irk me. Avoidable evils are always the most irritating.

[AntiVenomFangX]

@DarkAngelSupreme

men discriminate against women, women discriminate against men. your just chauvinistic towards women. and you feel as if you are fighitng the good fight.

bias is not fighting the good fight. i dont know what has personally happened to you to make you think women are victimized, but your about 20-30 years too late.

[DarkAngelSupreme]

@AntiVenomFangX From where do you draw these assumptions? And why must you personalize the discussion? I would appreciate it if you would try to argue with my position in the future rather than reduce yourself to personally attacking me.

My perspective is egalitarian and therefore unbiased towards any superficial denomination. Fighting against inequality and prejudice is the "good fight" in my opinion. Can you provide any examples of discrimination against males? I can: the stereotype enforced

[DarkAngelSupreme]

by many contemporary societies that males must be insensitive, aggressive, crude, etc. which in itself is divisive, fantastical and completely unrealistic. As an egalitarian, I am also completely opposed to the enforcement, influence and propagation of that pathetic social stigmatization.

I agree that discrimination against females has declined in the past few decades in the developed world. But not completely. You want evidence? buzzle . com / articles / sexism-gender-discrimination . html

[DarkAngelSupreme]

@AntiVenomFangX Try that with all of the spaces removed. And if you want to extrapolate the discussion to the entire world, try this with the spaces removed - childreninneed . com / magazine / gender . html. Undeniable. That other link again - buzzle . com / articles / sexism - gender - discrimination . html

[AntiVenomFangX]

@DarkAngelSupreme

what i said stands. men discriminate against women and women against men.



[DarkAngelSupreme]

@AntiVenomFangX The evidence suggests that the former occurs to a much greater and more harmful degree. On that basis, it is clearly the higher priority. Furthermore, the only result of "an eye for an eye" is that everybody ends up blind.

[AntiVenomFangX]

@DarkAngelSupreme

what evidence? im pretty sure the table have turned recently.

[DarkAngelSupreme]

Look at the articles that I've sent to your homepage. Furthermore, just research the various lists of commercial tycoons and their relative estimated values, e.g. the Forbes lists. In addition, research the female representation in the governments and parliaments of the various nations of the world. Can you think of any elected female heads of state in recent years apart from Angela Merkel, Benazir Bhutto and Margaret Thatcher? Now compare that figure with it's male counterpart. Undeniable.

[AntiVenomFangX]

@DarkAngelSupreme

so let me see if i got this. it doesn't matter if women are being treated equal... it matters if they are 50/50 with men and their jobs and pay? companies want to make money, they wont deny a woman that will make them successful for a man just because he is a man, think a little more.

your greedy, talking about the richest. Women are employed than men are today. your worrying 1% of people. so your saying the majority of women are equal, you just want money?

[DarkAngelSupreme]

@AntiVenomFangX Firstly, being treated equal would entail parity on every basis, including matters relating to employment and financial reward for the same labor. And your presumption about "companies", by which I believe you are referring to EVERY company, not refusing a capable woman in preference for a less than capable man simply has no basis and contradicts reality. Reports of female candidates being refused purely on the basis of their gender and of females receiving less pay for the same

[AntiVenomFangX]

@DarkAngelSupreme

1. even between two,4,6,8etc. males there would be no parity.

2. im only referring to the successful/competitive companies... the ones who see green, not gender not race... money.. not all companies.

3. i dont think you understand just how many jobs are based on physical performance as well. this is where the biggest income gap would occur and heavily offset the average of men vs women...

4. more women are employed then men. do you agree with this?

[DarkAngelSupreme]

@AntiVenomFangX

1) In matters relating to employment and pay there has to be. Otherwise, it would contravene international labor laws.

2) A company must be competitive in order to exist. But, if you are referring to the MOST competitive companies, I would contend that, by definition, those companies are in the minority and are therefore irrelevant to an issue that applies to ALL females and not just a select, fortunate few.

3) Physical performance? Considering, on average, approximately three

[DarkAngelSupreme]

@DarkAngelSupreme disagree.

[DarkAngelSupreme]

@AntiVenomFangX quarters of the economy of a developed nation is funded by the Services and Manufacturing Industries, I find it hard to believe that statement. Furthermore, apart from sport, I believe there are very few sectors which highlight the gap in physical capability between males and females, apart from perhaps the Extraction Industries, which consequently account for the smallest percentage of the input into the economy of the developed world.

4) Employed? My gut feeling would be that I

[AntiVenomFangX]

@DarkAngelSupreme

how many cases of male discrimination are you familiar with?

this will tell us how biased you really are.

[DarkAngelSupreme]

@AntiVenomFangX To my knowledge, I am the only individual in this discussion who has outlined any incidence of social discrimination against males. I could reiterate that case, but I wish to instead draw attention to the gross inequality that is exercised in the Grand Slam tournaments in the sport of tennis. Here, the female players are issued the same financial reward as the male players for doing less "work" (playing a maximum of 2 sets instead of 3). This is explicitly inegalitarian and as

[DarkAngelSupreme]

such I am opposed to it.

My position is that discrimination against females is far more ubiquitous in contemporary society than discrimination against males. Note that my position does not claim that discrimination against males does not exist. That would be ludicrous considering the number of incidents of discrimination on the basis of race and sexual orientation against males.

Again, you resort to personalization. This denigrates your argument. Argue with the message, not the messenger.

[AntiVenomFangX]

@DarkAngelSupreme

ok true. ill argue with the message.

plain and simple you are looking for parity, which is an illusion when it comes to humans.

did you ever think the higher levels of testosterone give men a genetic advantage in the world that was created by men?

[DarkAngelSupreme]

@AntiVenomFangX prejudice at the highest economic level, I believe, is a very potent method of determining the state of gender equality in a society. Furthermore, it highlights a society's true opinion on the issue, especially if that society is capitalist. What evidence do you have to state that women are more employed than men today? I completely refute that statement. And, finally, the trend observed at the pinnacle of the economic world is one that continues disguised to the very bottom of

[DarkAngelSupreme]

@AntiVenomFangX the socio-economic ladder. It demonstrates whether or not a society desires to actually allow egalitarianism to reign or if it desires instead to only cosmetically appease the victims of discrimination while ensuring that some favored social class retains it's domination behind the scenes. The latter is demonstrably the case at present in the developed world. It's also important not to forget the disgraceful treatment of females in the political world amongst all this discussion

[DarkAngelSupreme]

@AntiVenomFangX of the financial world.

The majority of women are treated equally with respect to men? That statement flies in the face of the facts. As such, it is false. Putting the developing world to one side for a moment, just read all of the articles that I've sent you. And then perhaps take a look at the treatment of females and femininity in popular culture. Then try to make that statement again.

[AntiVenomFangX]

@DarkAngelSupreme

1."The majority of women are treated equally with respect to men? That statement flies in the face of the facts."

when did i say this?????

2.even between 2,4,6,etc. males of the same race there would be no parity. i have to mention it agains because i want to know what you think about it.

3. what about the massive number of jobs that demand physical ability?

4. i didnt see the links. send them again.

[DarkAngelSupreme]

@AntiVenomFangX You said "so your saying the majority of women are equal" which I decoded to mean that you thought that I was admitting that "The majority of women are treated equally with respect to men". As such, I responded to that statement. You made that statement in the final line of your comment which you submitted approximately three hours ago.

I've sent you the links.

And I've already responded to all of those other points in another comment.