What it really boils down to, is that these two should never have worked together. Sr. is unprofessional about how he handles his employees, namely his kids. Jr., talented as he may be, is lazy, has a poor work ethic (good attendance practices are a big part of a good work ethic), and wants to be #1 without putting in the time. Mikey just wants life handed to him for free. I would have fired both of them years ago on attendance alone.
@fixitman21 Jr. ownd part of the company, a very large part might I add. The way I figure, He could come and go as he pleases. about as much time as senior spends out back shooting the shit, in his office sleeping, reading magazines, jerking off on the computer and yelling, jr. was gone. A strong work ethic is 50% internal drive and dedication, 50% of what you were taught your whole life.
@sagequan Junior owned 20%. He is a talented designer and he has some skills, but I stand by my earlier comments. Junior puts in a few long days here and there and he's a hero? Sorry, but no. Mikey hasn't EVER worked a hard day in his life. Yes, Senior seems lazy, but he put his time in to earn the right to kick his feet up. Junior and Mikey want that right without paying their dues. I'm not saying Senior is a good father figure, but those boys may as well be 14 years old. LAZY!
@fixitman21 Its a fathers obligation to take care of his son, to give him a better life, and provide him with every possible advantage. Advantages that senior never had.
Now if his children are now ungreatful, its their loss.
But it is also Seniors loss for expecting them to be greatful.
My kids are "Advantaged" and I call them ungreatful brats all the time. But I dont let it turn into resentment.
@fixitman21 You are dead on but put it to subtly. Jr is likely one of the best creative minds in the chopper world. He, however has a sense of entitlement. He demands the benefits the old man has but forgot to first EARN them. First of all, The old man owns the majority of the business & I damn well bet he GAVE the shares to Jr at less than market value. Mikey, love him but he hasn't worked a day in his life andhe thinks he has/does. Both kids are VERY over entitled. rules are rules.
Moral killers.. If only the other employees could speak their mind without fear . As soon as Corporate America is out of bed with this whole biker concept they will crash hard. If they were smart they would sell this whole business off while its on top. After all its not the bikes making money. Its the clothing line
@Symbiotespider5 I guess after the economy tanked a in 2008 they had some money problems. senior says he cant work with him because jr comes in late all the time and doesnt do certain tasks. I think senior is the primary aggressor
The show is what made OCC grow. Without the show they are just another average bike shop making average bikes. Jrs design and fabrication is rather mundane.Real bikers won't shit on an OCC bike. There are many better bikes builders out than OCC. But if you're a noob with 40 K to blow you get OCC to build you a bike cause they're on TV.
2:56 How many of those bikes were built by Sr? Maybe 1,maybe. Without Jr. that business and show would have not grown like it did. Who is going to design the bikes? Sr? Jason? His father always talked about how Jr. didnt do anything yet if you watch the show you know the bikes got done and got done by Jr, Vinnie,Rick, and help. "daddy issues" "American work ethic"? Oh please. I think you and Sr. have a lot in common. Loss of sanity and reality.
@journeyquest1 That was always my theory. Sr. always Jr was standing around not doing sh** when all that old man did was sit on his ass the whole day and yell at Jr. Paulie, Vin, and Rick did all of the work. Sr. just got in the way. And Jason was basically just a pushover. Doing most of the work? Hell they did all of it. Jr even designed the freaking logo for OCC.
Sr only knows how to bark orders. Have you seen him work on a bike? More then half the time he doesnt know what hes doing. The son needs to be on an equal basis with his father for what hes doing. My dad is kinda the same way so i can relate.
That's the problem with spoiling your kids. No work ethic. Paulie doesn't have the real work ethic. Always late, too many days off. slacking, any other place would have fired him.
Don't think that. Yes, they are both very impulsive and keen on fighting, but I wish that all the fathers in this world cared so much about their sons like Sr does. That's Sr: he's impulsive and he wants to appear ruthless and tough, but he is a very good guy with the biggest heart of all television stars.
Poor Vinnie, that shit, day after day, month after month, year after year, will make you old before your time. Its, funny you never really think about the good work places you had and the co-workers you really liked working with. But, damn you sure remember the toxic work environments. I'm glad he quit, if anyone deserves to wake up when he wants to and go home when he wants to its him and Rick and Cody.
Snr should keep his big mouth shut and stick to laying back in the chair His attempts at fabrication suck Hes a fat big mouthed asshole ! Its the steroids He needs anger management Jnr should knock him the fuck out ! !
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Paul Snr and Rick are having an anal love affair. That's why they both have the same stupid american accents, and they are a bunch of worthless scum, JUST LIKE ALL AMERICANS. These guys are as gay as it gets,and if Paul Jnr had a penis, he'd be fucking his father too.
sr is a hotheaded motherfucker.. jr is no better... they both pick at eachother till one blows and everyone in the shop gets stuck in the middle.. no wonder vinnie and cody left... give them one more maby 2 seasons and their fuckin bankrupt.. ill bet on it
They are crzy...But yea Jr. is the better designer, he knows todays bike buyers, Sr. only know's what his era liked all the new shit doesnt make since to him so he trys to keep everything old school, but in todays market that just wont keep there buisiness going...They need Jr's designs to thrive.
paul sr says to work for 20 more years and paul jr can have the stuff his father has but, paul jr is the person responsible for all the money they are making his father is greeding and taking his sons money like hes some little child star.
paul sr is hilarious because he just comes in and starts arguing about shit he doesn't know about, and it's true paul sr started the company but paul jr brought all of the success of the company which is 95% of the company with is genius designs on the bikes. Paul sr should shut up and thank he son because it seems paul sr is getting most of the money for his sons designs and work and then says paul jr doesnt do shit.
It's the personal comments at the end that make this one so harsh. I've read their book and when you find out about both Jnr's and Snr's upbringings, you can understand that there are some deep things they still feel. That is what they say in the book. I think they are amazing for the success they have made for themselves. I just hope it doesn't break them.
They aren't tossers. y dad and I have been in business for years and we've done the same as this, maybe even worse..we've never hit each other out of anger :)
pay cheques?!! ive watched this show from the start series 1..their both fucking loaded so is vinnie and rick discovery channel as made these guys what they are today
XD
MADCARNAGE 3 months ago in playlist More videos from timteutul
thnks 4 this upload, i was watching this ep the other day.
MADCARNAGE 6 months ago
dude this is not even close to their worst fight
bigbry5120 9 months ago
1:27- 1:53
''weightlessness on external blind''
''and responsibility whatsoever''
''calcutta solace and how does it all on wensday''
''That's what i would say your'e gonna cut recently messing around''
'' suggestion of stalemate''
''avenue office we lose on something on this point dust''
'' garden with the interrelationship''
EPIC TRANSLATION
rukiahentai313 11 months ago
my fucking father inlaw is the same way
some people should just learn to fuck off while people are figuring out there next steps
ke1th111 11 months ago
iam happy that Paulie has hes own shop now, wish u goodluck with that! and that vinny joined hes team. Great to see xD
Maljanus 11 months ago
What it really boils down to, is that these two should never have worked together. Sr. is unprofessional about how he handles his employees, namely his kids. Jr., talented as he may be, is lazy, has a poor work ethic (good attendance practices are a big part of a good work ethic), and wants to be #1 without putting in the time. Mikey just wants life handed to him for free. I would have fired both of them years ago on attendance alone.
fixitman21 11 months ago
@fixitman21 Jr. ownd part of the company, a very large part might I add. The way I figure, He could come and go as he pleases. about as much time as senior spends out back shooting the shit, in his office sleeping, reading magazines, jerking off on the computer and yelling, jr. was gone. A strong work ethic is 50% internal drive and dedication, 50% of what you were taught your whole life.
sagequan 5 months ago
@sagequan Junior owned 20%. He is a talented designer and he has some skills, but I stand by my earlier comments. Junior puts in a few long days here and there and he's a hero? Sorry, but no. Mikey hasn't EVER worked a hard day in his life. Yes, Senior seems lazy, but he put his time in to earn the right to kick his feet up. Junior and Mikey want that right without paying their dues. I'm not saying Senior is a good father figure, but those boys may as well be 14 years old. LAZY!
fixitman21 5 months ago
@fixitman21 Its a fathers obligation to take care of his son, to give him a better life, and provide him with every possible advantage. Advantages that senior never had.
Now if his children are now ungreatful, its their loss.
But it is also Seniors loss for expecting them to be greatful.
My kids are "Advantaged" and I call them ungreatful brats all the time. But I dont let it turn into resentment.
sagequan 5 months ago
@fixitman21 You are dead on but put it to subtly. Jr is likely one of the best creative minds in the chopper world. He, however has a sense of entitlement. He demands the benefits the old man has but forgot to first EARN them. First of all, The old man owns the majority of the business & I damn well bet he GAVE the shares to Jr at less than market value. Mikey, love him but he hasn't worked a day in his life andhe thinks he has/does. Both kids are VERY over entitled. rules are rules.
WaterlooTriumphGuy 2 months ago
Fight. All I ever hear between these two is blah blah blah.
fixitman21 11 months ago
this was a pretty bad fight
Rocky374 11 months ago
man i worked for my uncle for 4 years i dont think we never had a huge fight yeah we bumped heads like maybe once i a blue moon but i bit my tounge
7475flyersfan 1 year ago
Sr. is alway`s right ...in his eyes
homotorsports 1 year ago
Hmm guess Jr. was right and Sr. knew it. He just didn't want to admit it. He's burying his own company.
gbsons 1 year ago
Moral killers.. If only the other employees could speak their mind without fear . As soon as Corporate America is out of bed with this whole biker concept they will crash hard. If they were smart they would sell this whole business off while its on top. After all its not the bikes making money. Its the clothing line
RDMFNU 1 year ago
so what exactly made them not want to work together.. they fight with each other too much?
Symbiotespider5 1 year ago
@Symbiotespider5 I guess after the economy tanked a in 2008 they had some money problems. senior says he cant work with him because jr comes in late all the time and doesnt do certain tasks. I think senior is the primary aggressor
marbito11 1 year ago
The show is what made OCC grow. Without the show they are just another average bike shop making average bikes. Jrs design and fabrication is rather mundane.Real bikers won't shit on an OCC bike. There are many better bikes builders out than OCC. But if you're a noob with 40 K to blow you get OCC to build you a bike cause they're on TV.
seymourbbest 1 year ago
@seymourbbest That's the way it is with everything man.
gbsons 1 year ago
sounds like these Sr haters have "daddy issues". Get over it and learn an American work ethic, thats all senior wanted.
Boston1775 1 year ago
@Boston1775
2:56 How many of those bikes were built by Sr? Maybe 1,maybe. Without Jr. that business and show would have not grown like it did. Who is going to design the bikes? Sr? Jason? His father always talked about how Jr. didnt do anything yet if you watch the show you know the bikes got done and got done by Jr, Vinnie,Rick, and help. "daddy issues" "American work ethic"? Oh please. I think you and Sr. have a lot in common. Loss of sanity and reality.
Jononutoob 1 year ago
@Boston1775 Ya, the work ethic of spmeone doing all or most of the work for you. Guy is bloated on steroids.
journeyquest1 1 year ago
@journeyquest1 That was always my theory. Sr. always Jr was standing around not doing sh** when all that old man did was sit on his ass the whole day and yell at Jr. Paulie, Vin, and Rick did all of the work. Sr. just got in the way. And Jason was basically just a pushover. Doing most of the work? Hell they did all of it. Jr even designed the freaking logo for OCC.
gbsons 1 year ago
Jason always has the shit eating smile. Like the cat who ate the mouse. reminds me of Tom Arnold.
journeyquest1 1 year ago
People need to start putting [CAM] in the title if they made the video by filming a TV screen.
SirGriefALot 1 year ago
Sr only knows how to bark orders. Have you seen him work on a bike? More then half the time he doesnt know what hes doing. The son needs to be on an equal basis with his father for what hes doing. My dad is kinda the same way so i can relate.
journeyquest1 1 year ago
That's the problem with spoiling your kids. No work ethic. Paulie doesn't have the real work ethic. Always late, too many days off. slacking, any other place would have fired him.
brettsir28 1 year ago
You got an awfully nice house for what I did. Exactly!
jasonrtaylor 1 year ago 4
"You got a fucking nice house from what I did!" Best line ever by Jr.
KameoKid 1 year ago 4
i dunno. that door kick was kinda weak. i can only give this a 6
whitedevil2 1 year ago
Would anyone that fucked up with his family treat them like shit to make you for his having been a drunken asshole!!!!
donmagicjuan1000 2 years ago
the problem is they are both stubborn,wich makes for great arguments and fights...the reason i love the show
nederwiet1 2 years ago
thats man u just described, well except for faggots anyway
cloud4527 2 years ago
Vinnie and Jr. should of walked out together and started there own bike shop.
radioguy67 2 years ago 3
vinnie did
royjones57 2 years ago
Paulie needs to start his own business and build only a few choppers a year like Jessie does with Indian Larry as his inspiration for design.
fullpowercartridge 2 years ago
Have you seen the latest episode of Chopper? Paulie was hired back and then decided to quit and open a boutique with his girlfriend Rachael.
pman1018 2 years ago
why does senior always say idear ...there is no r at the end.....lol.....classic father and son battle
pumpdawg 2 years ago
It's a father/son business, so Sr. is stuck with Paulie weather he likes it not!
b33133rice 2 years ago
Did you guys see the new show where sr fired jr?
ericpieper69 2 years ago
search for:
OCC - Senior and Junior fight - UNSEEN FOOTAGE! Season 6 Uncensored!
ideovay 2 years ago 3
It's a good thing Vinnie left them...dealing with Jr. and Sr. fighing all the team is not good...
justinhayesee 3 years ago
i feel so sorry for poor pahlie he must of had a terrible childhood
360fliphazza08 3 years ago
Don't think that. Yes, they are both very impulsive and keen on fighting, but I wish that all the fathers in this world cared so much about their sons like Sr does. That's Sr: he's impulsive and he wants to appear ruthless and tough, but he is a very good guy with the biggest heart of all television stars.
Sorvos 3 years ago 2
Lol.. feel the love.
SwingtotheRIGHT 3 years ago
That was an argument NOT a fight.
creamdaddy07 3 years ago
Poor Vinnie, that shit, day after day, month after month, year after year, will make you old before your time. Its, funny you never really think about the good work places you had and the co-workers you really liked working with. But, damn you sure remember the toxic work environments. I'm glad he quit, if anyone deserves to wake up when he wants to and go home when he wants to its him and Rick and Cody.
drmodestoesq 3 years ago 3
o shit
matexson92 3 years ago
Snr should keep his big mouth shut and stick to laying back in the chair His attempts at fabrication suck Hes a fat big mouthed asshole ! Its the steroids He needs anger management Jnr should knock him the fuck out ! !
Rippavilla08 3 years ago
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Paul Snr and Rick are having an anal love affair. That's why they both have the same stupid american accents, and they are a bunch of worthless scum, JUST LIKE ALL AMERICANS. These guys are as gay as it gets,and if Paul Jnr had a penis, he'd be fucking his father too.
misterassfuck 3 years ago
Poor Paulie, he's crying at 2:43
chaucer44 3 years ago 3
Jr. just can never win a fight.
chaucer44 3 years ago 3
paul jr is a whinge
Kennyman6191 3 years ago
I haw lok on evry episod of dis shov
SWEboyhenrik 3 years ago
sr is a hotheaded motherfucker.. jr is no better... they both pick at eachother till one blows and everyone in the shop gets stuck in the middle.. no wonder vinnie and cody left... give them one more maby 2 seasons and their fuckin bankrupt.. ill bet on it
reffup 3 years ago
paulie cant be fired cause he own's 2% of the place
viper4525 3 years ago
stop recordeing your telavishion and download the shows like the rest of the people who put there shows online.
looking at those lines on your monator (caused by the camra I know) make me dizzy.
kairon156 3 years ago 2
Vinnie`s face at the end was priceless,it was like shit now what do we do.
stylinnprofylin 3 years ago
hehehe... I love this show.
Cheloluis2003 3 years ago
Wasn't this the one that Jr. punched a wall?
24Lancelot 3 years ago
id like to see sr. fight kimbo slice
endecent101 4 years ago
yes!
gannman51 3 years ago
yeah big muscly white man versus a criminal looking nigger
Kennyman6191 3 years ago
Thou shall honer thy mother and thy father!
onearmbiker 4 years ago 2
i hate your camera it sucks but the videos rock so ya
dylan188 4 years ago
lol vinnies stuck in the middle
hondatrxrider14 4 years ago
paulie should be glad he works there, anywhere else he'd be fired.
m0llie92 4 years ago
This is why
MS85ToyotaCrown 4 years ago
shoot i bet another one like that and jason will leave.
BigBoiJC 4 years ago
sr always starts it
sgcsc 4 years ago 11
i agree... it was the worst fight ever!
ricardornt 4 years ago
I couldn't work there. I don't think the cameras would bother me,but the fighting would scare me so bad,I couldn't do my job.
vodkagal28 4 years ago
it sucks to be vinnie to be in the middle of all this and put him in an awkward position
kennybenny 4 years ago 2
the reason Vinnie left is because of the fight between Sr. and Paul Jr.
DieselMikey084 4 years ago 5
no wonder vinny left
webber0044 4 years ago 13
nice when paul sr kick the door
kikesoft 4 years ago
SWEET !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
pardner50 4 years ago
thats a fake fight its all for tv
andyrose333 4 years ago
no man i dont think it is they fight like that for real
REAUME40000 4 years ago
i love fi
JohnnyThror 4 years ago
ahhh families! :)
seeem 4 years ago
They are crzy...But yea Jr. is the better designer, he knows todays bike buyers, Sr. only know's what his era liked all the new shit doesnt make since to him so he trys to keep everything old school, but in todays market that just wont keep there buisiness going...They need Jr's designs to thrive.
MastaChance 4 years ago
paul sr says to work for 20 more years and paul jr can have the stuff his father has but, paul jr is the person responsible for all the money they are making his father is greeding and taking his sons money like hes some little child star.
thetvirus 4 years ago 2
paul sr is hilarious because he just comes in and starts arguing about shit he doesn't know about, and it's true paul sr started the company but paul jr brought all of the success of the company which is 95% of the company with is genius designs on the bikes. Paul sr should shut up and thank he son because it seems paul sr is getting most of the money for his sons designs and work and then says paul jr doesnt do shit.
thetvirus 4 years ago
Paul Jr. is the genius behind the designs... Paul Sr. is just a useless image for the company... he's like Ronald McDonald.
delunahugoren 4 years ago 3
Great family but they have serious issues. Paul snr needs to take a deep breath and walk away. He hits below the belt and must feel awful afterwards.
torqueingheads 4 years ago
i love verbal abuse
XxKobeBryantxX24 4 years ago
It's the personal comments at the end that make this one so harsh. I've read their book and when you find out about both Jnr's and Snr's upbringings, you can understand that there are some deep things they still feel. That is what they say in the book. I think they are amazing for the success they have made for themselves. I just hope it doesn't break them.
AceKickerCards 4 years ago
this tv show is the best...and GO MIKEY GO at your president campaign.
NickRaperBoy 4 years ago
the bikes are still gay when it's all said and done,the old mans old school bikes are bad though
graveyarddisciple1 4 years ago
yeah. By now i'm used to their fighting
aerojo05 4 years ago
That place would be fucked without Vinnie to do the work while those two tossers argue.
h1aa 4 years ago
They aren't tossers. y dad and I have been in business for years and we've done the same as this, maybe even worse..we've never hit each other out of anger :)
alabasterdeplume 4 years ago
pay cheques?!! ive watched this show from the start series 1..their both fucking loaded so is vinnie and rick discovery channel as made these guys what they are today
cymrucymreig 4 years ago
MIKEY FOR PRESIDENT!!!! YAH I WISH
honeybunny2222 4 years ago