Thousand Oaks Day Labor Site Protest (Immigration), Pt. 1

[Gokudo13]

Stop all immigration. There over 30 million people unemployed in this country, and not enough jobs to go around.

[olivia3805]

thats right u needed the cops there u pussy

[pistache7]

Just over 200 years ago we used to have a different word for immigrants, they called them WHITE people !

[DerailAmnestydotcom]

@pistache7 You should watch the video again. The subject matter is not "immigrants." It's illegal aliens.

[pistache7]

@DerailAmnestydotcom So were WE at first. The word illegal is only a paper term. It exist on paper. But, i do agree with you on this subject.Even immigrants should not force their way into a new society or culture or nation without first understanding the politics, language and laws of their newfound region, to successfully reside, work and socially integregate into our towns and cities.

[DerailAmnestydotcom]

@pistache7 Speak for yourself. I wasn't nor was anyone related to me. My family came through Ellis Island. And you have some interesting ideas about the concept of "illegal alien." It is hardly "only a paper term." It is a concrete reality with a whole series of consequences in the real world that exist far beyond the margins of something written in a state or federal code. Just ask anyone who has undergone deportation proceedings.

[pistache7]

@DerailAmnestydotcom Yeah i know dude.I've been there.

[mbjl1758]

maybe you folks should go after the employers. just a thought. You're targeting the outcome of allowing employers to hire without penalty.

But of course republicans LOVE cheap labor - and more importantly - what cheap labor does to all wages (hint it goes down).

Just sayin ;)

[andyloma01]

geauxnosaints your name is samson you are a poor loser with no brain retarded i have compation for you in your own contry and blaming us for your retardernes jajajajajajaj here we are and we wont go no where

[BudPeters44]

Thif your mexican check this stuff out.Illegals are being raided and not sent back to mexico.They are being sent to fema camps and never seen again.The buildings are wrapped with gas pipes and an infernery.On the side of the freeway close to the fema camps are half a million caskets made for inferneries and can hold up to five bodies.Something is going on and you better wake the hell up.I have not heard from some of the mexicans i now that were supposedly deported.

[FxUncertainty]

Thanks, now I know where to go hire some help.

[alvanson]

I would only expect this kind of protest in suburban towns such as TO which are loaded with bible preaching transplants from the midwest.

[DerailAmnestydotcom]

Would you expect them in locations infested with third world intruders, like Canoga Park, the Antelope Valley, National City and Maywood? The reason I ask is because we've had them there, too.

[MiamiIndianTribe]

that forget that freedom means to be FREE, the united states is not a free country

[DerailAmnestydotcom]

Because you are a dipshit, dipshit. The guy answered your question. He's not a Christian, and you kept asking the same sorry ass thing, dumb ass.

[limefg123]

hold on i was just confused by the description,,, it says something about aliens...i didnt see any in the video, just humans.

[GeauxNOSaints]

Interesting way of looking at it. I suppose one could stare out at a prison yard and say roughly the same thing about the convicts walking around - "It says something about criminals ... I didn't see any in the video, just humans." The thing is, it'd still be a pack of convicted felons out there, regardless of whatever niceties or warm fuzzies you had sprinkled on the observation.

[limefg123]

mm i dont see the corilation. because referring to someone in prison as a criminal is more accurate than calling a human an "alien"

[GeauxNOSaints]

Well, you have that opinion because your points of reference in this matter appear to be science fiction films from the 1980's rather than an English language dictionary. Try picking one up and looking up the word.

[limefg123]

i have thatt opinion because i find it to be innacurate and inhumane to refer to a person within the same species as "alien". and you have your opinion because you lack cultural appreciation and a sense of humanity, otherwise you would embrace and support HUMANS that happen to be darker skinned than you.

[GeauxNOSaints]

No. You have that opinion because you make a conscious decision to indulge your feelings rather than deal with the facts. One of which, in this particular case, is a definition of a term found in the Eng. language. As for the rest of what angrily blurted out: Personal attacks and race-baiting are weak substitutes for a substantive argument. "Illegal aliens" is a perfectly valid term. You're not liking it doesn't make it "inaccurate". Sorry that the world isn't the way you want it to be.

[limefg123]

i dont like it because its innacurate and inhumane, i already explained that. interesting how you cant defend my statements about your lack of cultural appreciation and sense of humanity because you know im right.. i challenge you to care for these people like your brother instead of some filthy animal.

[GeauxNOSaints]

No, it is not inaccurate, no matter how much you don't like it. All you have to do is consult a dictionary to check the veracity of that statement. Of course, I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for that to happen b/c you're certainly not about to let a fact or two get in the way of heartfelt sentiment and an opportunity to sling insults.

[limefg123]

well now you're are being unintelligent, if you really think i dont know that "alien" could be defined as "foreign" then uhhh i dont know what to tell you. I have been aware of this definition. I wonder however, if you are aware that they are human just like you and there is no need, even if the dictionary gives you permission, to refer to a human as an alien. So that challenge still stands man and so far you arent doing too well.

[GeauxNOSaints]

I guess I am unintelligent because from where I'm sitting it appears you've now contradicted yourself. Last night you said the term "alien" was "inaccurate". Now you're saying the word is, in fact, defined as "foreign" and that you've been aware of it. Is there also a third position on the topic you'll be staking out later?

[limefg123]

im a aware of the definition, i dont agree with it. just because it is in the dictionary doesnt mean it is the best word to desribe something or the most humane. It is inhumane to refer to a human as an "alien" and you cant deny. i would be willing to put money on the fact that you are a "christian"...?

[GeauxNOSaints]

You are mischaracterizing the situation. It's not that you "don't agree" with it. The definition of "A resident born in or belonging to another country who has not acquired citizenship by naturalization" is not something you substantively dispute. Be honest, you just don't like it. As I said earlier, sorry that the world isn't the way you want it to be.

[limefg123]

I am against the use of the word period.. and you and anyones use of it shows lack of humanity at best. now tell me, do you profess the christian faith?

[GeauxNOSaints]

It appears, then, that your argument is with the folks at Merriam-Webster rather than me. A Google search will probably produce an address for the company's Customer Service Department. You can zip off a letter explaining their staff's "lack of humanity". Listen, if by chance you get a response, please post it here b/c I can use the chuckle. I'll end the conversation here, but in response to your repeated question/attempt(s) to change the subject: You would lose that money. I'm not/I don't.

[limefg123]

you obviously dont get it. my problem is with you and anyone who uses the word, for the reasons i have explained to your uncomprehending self several times. are you a christian?!?!?!?!? or so called christian?

[DerailAmnestydotcom]

He did answer your question, dipshit.

[limefg123]

yo fuck you why you gotta come in here and start name calling . the converstation didnt include you. you can get mad as you want, treat other humans in the way you do cause they are darker but it dont change the fact that WE run THIS. in 2010 mexicans will be the majority in california son!!! and that doesnt even include the rest of my latinos from central and south america so go ahead keep going to your rallies and supporting racist and tyrannical movements. VIVA TODO LATINO AMERICA!!!!

[Avatarblackwolf]

Your illegal....or an anchor baby?

[red23fan]

It's sad to see so many middle class americans have nothing better to do than to spread hate. Im assuming if you were to rid CA. of all illegal immigrants, you would quit your office job and start picking fruit or washing cars. God forbid these harmless human beings prevent you from heading over to the Civic Arts Plaza or the Oaks Mall. Your probably the first in line when El Torito opens up, you hypocritical racist moron. Get a fucking part time job with all that free time...

[GeauxNOSaints]

Wouldn't need to. The positions opened up by their absence would be performed either by automated machinery or many of the 10.1 % of your fellow Californians who are currently unemployed. Listen, while you're munching away at El Torito this afternoon, try picking up a newspaper and perusing an article or two about this state's tax debt and job crisis, and then give me that same speech about "harmless human beings", but this time with a straight face.

[red23fan]

Thousand Oaks does not have a true newspaper. They have The Acorn, which is something for you racists to read as you live your lives thinking your upper class, when you are really middle class. Im wondering how you and your wife are going to enjoy strawberries, when you kick all the hard working people out of this country, who would normally pick them. BTW, you might actually have to buy a hose and sponge, since your committing car wash suicide with your wishes.

[kristinatopia]

and im sure its only a coincidense that thousand oaks only has a 1 percent population of blacks too Racist pigs.

[OrientOranges]

Why are you watching anti-illegal videos then? Tirate a un poso.

[therogueranger]

Hey guy, stop calling them immigrants. They are ILLEGAL ALIENS! Thanks. Rock on!

[Cribster]

The efforts put forth by Save Our State and Immigration Watchdog are simply unparalleled.

You guys and gals have my utmost respect and thanks!!!

[idependant]

Isn't driving with people riding in the truck bed of a pickup illegal? Why isn't that law enforced?

[DennisSlater]

Yes, its illegal.

[4271940]

Good Job

I really need to come and help you guys some day

[DennisSlater]

that would be most appreciated.

[warcraft1920]

they are accually hurting our economy. That much has already been proven. No real American would sink low enough to join the day laborers.

[bobdole1102449]

As a UCLA professor of economy I say you've been blinded by the negative then the positive. Immediatley they hurt the economy yet over time they gave the economy 20 billion dollars back. Not many people know that, they buy and stimulate the economy why do you think california and texas have very big economies. Basic economy greater demand stimulates a better economy. The goverment knows this hence why they never really stopped illegal immigration and its not going to stop.

[warcraft1920]

I dont think so. Mayors of many citys have been pushing amnesty because the illegal residents of their cities are bleeding them dry. Even people who push for amnesty know that the illegals are hurting us. Also dont say "its not going to stop." Many states have passed laws to stop illegals. And its working. Our President wont do anything about. Hopefully the next one wont be so incompanant. So I do think it WILL be stopped.

[GeauxNOSaints]

You mean professor of "Economics", right? Oh, and that's capitalized, Professor.

[bobdole1102449]

(laugh) you got me there but as I said and economics teacher not an english teacher good catch though.

[GeauxNOSaints]

I think you miss the point.  It's not that I think your grammar is poor. It is. It's that it's indicative that you're not an academic at UCLA. You see, even someone whose English is not the greatest but is still employed at a major university would have gotten the name of his academic discipline right.

[DennisSlater]

lol

[bobdole1102449]

Please criticizing my creditials of being a Professor of Econcmics over a typo is laughable. You know many people educated and not make stupid mistakes, heck most of the faculty send me emails with stupid typo all the time. One even mispelled his name, you don't think of me as Economics proffesor fine, but I am what I am. If you feel strongly about good for you, but I am comfortable with my high education that I don't care if you believe me or not. Maybe it your sad that you got rejected to UCLA

[GeauxNOSaints]

"Maybe it is your sad that you got rejected to UCLA"? You're right. What could I have been thinking? With an observation like that, how could anyone question your "creditials"?

[bobdole1102449]

YOu really are a fool I admitted I am not a great writers. But let me ask you this do you have a Ph.D in Economics I doubt your profession has nothing to do with economics. Heck I doubt you've been to a real college.

[GeauxNOSaints]

Well, that was a safe admission. And you're correct about my lack of a post-graduate degree (not that it's relevant, as I'm not the one ridiculously pretending to have academic expertise I clearly lack). Unfortunately, I aren't as edjikated as you, Purfessur.

[bobdole1102449]

Please I don't pretend, your belief in not being a proffesor is what it is, I don't care but I am what I am. If you can't accept it and the truth I speak then you really are a ignorant persone fighting for a lost cause. You will never rid of 12 million undocumented immigrants its unheard of and impossible. Keep what we have now and secure our border is the way its going to have to be its as easy as that. But you people are the kind of people who are asking for the impossible, hence an epic fail.

[GeauxNOSaints]

We are now in agreement. You definitely are what you are, and no rational "persone" reading this moronic exchange would deny that.

[freeUSmind]

I am a rational person. I deny that.

[centerrightpunk]

haha. bob dole? are you serious? no one seriously asks to deport all 12 million. at least no one sane. it's called attrition by enforcement. like, making large-number employers check the SSN of potential workers, etc. when it's too hard to get a job and be illegal, they'll go elsewhere.

[red23fan]

Dude, you're dealing with a full blown racist. Just let it go. There is no use trying to change someone's mind when it just can't be changed. I would much rather live my life misspelling words, than going through it hating people who were different. These are the kinds of people who run around saying "Go back to your own country" when they are living on land that they stole from the Native Americans. Thousand Oaks is notorious for being a racist city.

[3Haydens]

Maybe in the Chicano Studies program, but a legitimate professor, not a chance. Your illiteracy is NOT limited to typos. It is all encompassing. I'm sure IF you even attended UCLA it was via the Affirmative Action program.

[red23fan]

"It is" is not a sentence.

But, "Instead of getting a job, I will go show my hatred of people" is.

[3Haydens]

Hmmm...YOU need to have your tenure removed, bob. You are an abject liar and NO professor of economics. Otherwise you would know that the State has a roughly $18 Billion deficit, roughly the cost of illegal alien social services. You would also know that the high tax placed on the "cost of doing business" LEGALLY in CA has caused many, many, many legitimate businesses to flee the state.

[3Haydens]

The remaining, unscrupulous businesses, hiring mainly illegals, pay NO taxes or workman's comp ins and VERY low, illegal wages. Those illegals taking those jobs AL:SO pay no taxes, yet suck up EVERY social service known to man, adding to their windfall annually by having more anchor babies than they could EVER support as THEY don't support them, the American tax payer does. BTW bob, paying sales tax on welfare funded purchases is NOT an economic stimulus.

[bobdole1102449]

Take an economics course, of course there are downside to illegals but the state deficit is far from being mianly the illegal aliens fault the state has made many mistakes in dealing with state funding,o ver crediting, overspending, on itself. Its policies are blasphemus, all you say is true but please its been around for years and hasn't hurt the econmy half as much as the state did to itself. The whole U.S is in the bunker which makes it worse for california. Get a Ph.D then talk to me.

[3Haydens]

LMAO...IF you are a PhD, you are a prime example of the dumbing down of the American public schools. Yup, the illegal alien problem has been around for years, and has caused the educatiional status in CA to fall from #1 nationwide to #49. CUT benefits to all illegals AND their anchor babies, fine all illegal employers, lower the cost of doing business and watch CA thrive. That would include an unburdened public educational system, with NO special services/classes/programs to the aforementioned.

[bobdole1102449]

Honestly man I just finish explaining that immigrants are not the main problem when it comes to Californias Economics deficit. This is a well known fact to all economist maybe if you paid attention enough to learn and get into a oollege then maybe you'd think on your own. Instead of learning from the internet or media as I assume you do.

[3Haydens]

See? When you ASS U ME anything you just make an ass out of U. I am a graduate, with honors, of UCSB, more than is OBVIOUS by your illiteracy and ignorance of the economic realm. I have been an accountant for over 25 years, as well. Your obvious MISunderstanding of the CA economy is readily apparent. If CA cut all special programs for the illegal & their anchor babies, if they cut ALL social services, if they cut all incarcerations and just DEPORTED to ONLY Mexican prisons, thaT'D BE A START.

[bobdole1102449]

Ha with honors now that would be a disbelief, maybe not since you are from a second rate UC compared to UCLA. Anyways its people like you who hold are country back, personally thinking that a certain minority group is the problem. Instead of focusing at the source of problem such as goverment policies that throw are money away for honestly nothing.

[GeauxNOSaints]

What kind of a "disbelief" would it be?

[3Haydens]

are=our...but NOT to an illegal or an anchor baby, which I can ONLY presume you to be, bob.

[bobdole1102449]

Please I am not even Mexican, I am half black and half white. I was living in south central grew up in LA I enjoyed the mixture diversity. I don't support illegal immigration but I do not believe kicking 12 million people out, it really is immpossible. I say keep what we have now and strengthen our borders security so we never let so many undocumented immigrants in again. We keep the program for the one we have now and lessen them over time once the dust have settle.

[cwp91206]

Won't work. That's what they said with the 1986 SHAMnesty. Look what that got us.

[red23fan]

No my friend, you need to read more into what's going on. We are not at a deficit because of fucking strawberry pickers and painters. We have the deficit because your President was sucking every state bone dry of money, to motor a useless war. Name one company that had to move out of state because an illegal immigrant took a job as a short order cook. Everyone ignore these morons.. they are the kinda guys who use the "N" word while flipping channels at Hillcrest Royale Retirement Home

[wackymackyboy]

What a fuking biatch u r! Harrassing peaceful workers who are contributing to our economy. Go start a business or join the day laborers instead of damaging our economy.

[hccowboy]

Prostitutes work hard too, and they add big money to the economy. However it is not legal! Dont you get it. Or does anything go with a guy like you? how bout crack deals, or sex slaves, or personal home slaves. I think those who support illegals are the true sickos in this nation. SHAME ON YOU!

[Bigbadred23]

Give em hell Love the commentary.... You rock