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  • it looks like that ATI has alot of high and low peaks while nvidia is alot more stable and has a lower minimum fps

  • Also naja wenn eine 4870 @ 1680x1050, very high 25-40 FPS packt

    warum dann für ein wenig mehr auflösung viel mehr geld ausgeben?

    Oder steckt da noch Antialiasing dahinter? Dann würd ich das verstehen :)

  • @iceboyzz2

    More like 40 lol!

  • @1:33 @1:36 Major stuttering by 5970.

  • the thing i noticed on nvidia cards is that they don't have a sudden fall of fps...they're more stable than ati cards...i think this is where the nvidia technologies kick in :) .personally if i have an intel processor (which is the case ) I'd go with nvidia ...but an intel-nvidia high end system is pretty expensive :) . if u'd like a high-end system go with Amd-Ati.they're more cheaper .even the motherboards are cheaper ..lol :)

  • If you run this game on medium settings, this game looks nearly amazing, but runs nearly two times faster!!!

  • well, the old gtx295 is still fatser than hd5870 in all games and in farcry 2 hd5870 is running 20 fps+ behind the gtx295

  • @NBAasDOGG Actually theres no reason in buying this video card due to the high power supply consumption. it has 2 cores but it's just a little bit faster than single core HD 5870 which has DX 11 and dx 10 equals nothing cause it's outdated. and also don't get GTX 295 unless you have a very high clocked quad core cpu clocked to 3.8 GHZ or 4.0 , either you'll experience a microstuttering issue which is simply a pain in the butt. go for 5870, i recommend it highly.

  • @george3dmax I know what your saying, but doesn't NVIDIA have PhysX, and why would you play this game without PhysX? or does Radeon also have PHysX like features?

  • you guys shouldnt foget one thing,avg≠all,

    just look at "shooting the bomb"

    5970 at 1:33, the fps get very low ,11,15

    295 is much better : 15,22

  • @zqdz123 what's fps?? i mean, why do we care? we still run the game good and with nice graphics.. im not so in to graphics, and i dont really know what frames per second are.. but.. .why should i care?

  • even 5870 smashez 295

  • @Exoime

    gtx295 is 11% faster than hd5870.

  • @NBAasDOGG and costs much more

  • WTF the HD5970 sometimes got only 29 FPS.... fail

  • @ThaDK00  So doesn't gtx 295 get lower framerates than this?, it's crysis, a bad coded game known by almost everyone.

  • GTX480 > All

  • @ammokung ty for the info i was thinkin bout buyin a gtx 260

  • @iceboyzz2 You need to run dual cards for this game, it has too many detail consuming graphics.

  • ATI really kicked themselves in the nut this time by releasing their products too soon at the cost of performance against their competitor's new product.. ouch..

  • buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

  • 295 and 5970 are dual-gpus.

    5970 should be the one being compared to the 295 because of it, unless you are retarded.

    Even so 5870 is behind the 295 by around 2 fps. This has been benchmarked many many times. Sapphire's Vapor-x 5870 beats 295 by a low margin.

    The GTX 470/480 will both have very very high wattage, this is already bad news. Also, they won't come up with a 2x gpu in nvidia.

    If you were to compare 5970 with a new nvidia card, it would have to be a 2x gpu. Too bad it won't happen.

  • @HerpDerp90 Again, some new guy to the computer world bring up something he doesnt know.. Electrical voltage, do you actually Know how much electricity, amps in current the 30% over-use of wattage from the gtx 480 over the 5870 is? do you? and have you any idea what the difference in performance has already proven to be? Please.. Do not speak about what you don't know, with 30% bigger wafers and wattage the 480 proved to be 100% faster than the 5870 in heavy dx11 rendering processes. Bye.

  • HUH? every test shows the 295 beating the 5870 and comes close to the GTX 480 look on any GTX 480 review and see the 5870 behind the 295 fact! look it up...

  • thestoebz is a noob, you are comparing old tech vs. new tech, the 295 is 250/300.00$ cheaper than the 5970. The 295 compares to an overvolted 5870, not a 5970. Fermi should be copared to the 5970, nothing less....

  • @maiky3838 Wtf? The 295 is like 100$ cheaper, not 300$.

  • Time got nvidia to step up. All the fanboys riding Nvidias dick need to face the facts. 295 gtx doesn't even support dx11 srsly and on most games is so far surpassed by the more efficient, power saving card, the 5970. Nvidias new cards will be much more than the 5970 and not much better at most 30% . just face the facts, 5970 much more power efficient and better processing unit in general. Gg nt

  • If i will be lucky i will get HD5970 Crossfire x

    (in 10 months so i expect some mature drivers. WTF HAPPENED WITH THIS FAIL EXPLOSION)

  • lmao sumoninja11985

    then if you want to compare release dates wait till the new ATI that comes out after the Nvidia do your dumb atleast compare to cards that are already out

  • lets see ATI HD3000 = 8000Nvidia, ATI HD4000 = GT100/200 which leads us to..HD5000 = Femi Makes sense doesn't it? Or in your point of view whats fair is to compare new gen vs older gen? that makes sense indeed, for a fanboy.

  • HD 3000 = geforce8000

    HD 4000= Geforce9000

    HD 5000 =GT100/200 actually market

    HD 6000= GTX300 in few moths

  • RIP GTX 295  You have served us well

  • Quit being fan boys buy whats best at the time of upgrade ati or nvidia!

  • yeah i agree 295 is better in explosion

  • thats probably because the 295 has more mature drivers...remember at launch the 295 wasnt much better than a gtx 280.

  • the new card was to at least least double the old one in performanence or it just sucks

  • What a stupid fanboy you are, you make not sense at all..

  • Geforce Fx5700 FTW !!

  • 295 did better on the explosion...

  • @rain0x1 ROFL gayvidia fanboy :D xD

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  • @rain0x1 Yep the GTX295 did better but overall i would go with the HD5970.

  • if crysis werent a nvidia game, 5970 will get like 20 - 30 more

  • dude its really bugging me i cant find the song 0:13 - 0:42 please anyone song name?

  • The song soundtrack was purchased for the Video series, due to strict copyrights I cannot provide it freely for public distro. I'm trying to get a release, If successful, I will be able to provide the tracks for a $1 donation through our forum.

    Hope this helps.

  • PM Me and I will provide more Info...

  • I have a gtx295 with i7 not overlocked, but I cant play it on very high with 8aa it laggs!!! wath is my problem pls tell! I got only max15 fps! And in the vid are 30-40!!! PLEASE HELP.

  • have you tried to install the latest driver?

  • no were can i get it? I have a gigabyte gtx295 and my motherboard is gigabyte UD3R X58 and are 700Watt beQuiet enough?

  • i have never heard that kind of power supply but it should be enough. they recommand 680 wat for gtx 295. do you already have the old driver installed? if you do, you have to uninstall it from control panel then download a program is called driver sweeper to completely uninstall the driver. (this process is kind of hard to explain on writing you might want to contact gigabyte to walk to step by step to install it). after you uninstall it you go to nvidia website and click on download driver

  • thanks, but is this really the problem? Can an old driver cut down the frames from normaly 30-40 down to 15-20 FPS (8aa)? But I will try to install the new driver. Can I download the new one, and overwrite the old one? Or MUST I uninstall the old one first? Sry for my bad english I comes from german, and thanks again for your help.

  • it is always good to do a complete uninstall before installing a newer version of driver. i don't know if that is the reason you only get 15-20 fps but usually drivers have a lot to do with the performance of your video cards

  • and if that doesn't work, you can alway send it back for RMA (Return merchandise authorization) the manufacture should replace you with another graphics card. from my personal experience gigabyte should have 3 years warranty parts and labor.

  • Try nvidias homepage ;D

  • trub compairing the 2 card because nvidia has only 295.. and ati has 5970 now! its not ati's fault if nvidia is so slow to create a card... 300 series?? LOL! ati has 6000 series on da way... even 5870 has more powerful than nvidia best now gtx 295

  • Well of course a dx11 card will wreck a dx10 card but the 295 held up well

  • 5970 won by a lot with beta drivers

  • I <3 ATI \m/

  • I don't know what the hell everyone is discussing about the difference in time these cards came out. In my opinion, comparing the new generation with the old is perfectly fine, just don't do it through an nVidia optimized game, seriously...

  • Who cares, they are both great cards.

    I think ATI is more buck for money, while nVidia is more like "pay the price and u can have ur slice" ;P

    But GTX295 is many months old. HD5970 is such an awesome card.

  • They both drop down to 15fps at the explosions...

  • looked like the HD one drops the fps lot more than the 295 at hard tasks like explosions: 01:35 right vs 01:45 left.. or am I totally wrong?

  • 295 GTX IS 1YEAR OLD and 5970 is new -.- im wait for serie 300

  • is it that old?

  • FOR 1 YEARS

  • comparin a high end DX11 card to a high end DX10 Nvidia card isnt fair

  • @aplayaz2000 

    He is only comparing the best cards both manufacturers have to offer, and by this video, I can only imagine how much of a powersupply eater Nvidia 300 series will be.

  • just wait for the nvidia 300 series

  • GTX min fps:18

    ATI min fps:12

    Lol, no quest. to ask...!!!

  • remenber that crysis are optimized for nvidia clear win

  • and it showed nvidia as beaten ati in visual rendering. fps isnt everything.

  • ok this video made me realise that i shouldnt trade my 2x 295 gtx for a single 5970

    It actually isnt THAT much better i was hearing stuff like 155% better o.o

  • @SumoNinja1985

    "Fermi" not femi, but im totally witth u on that...

  • I Love the Crysis reviews the best, great job, FYI Nvidia uses a separate Physx software then Crysis supports, but the interesting this is why the Radeon card frames dropped to the low teens and the Nvidia did not break below the 20s?

  • and why not? while Nvidia takes its sweet a** time ATI and enthusiasts will rub it in their face

  • what is the song in the begening?

  • ATI Wins!

  • dude, stop underestimating. the 5870 shits on the 295

  • fermi hasnt even been born yet.

  • Fermi isn't even on market LOL ATi is still shitting on Nvidia

  • true

  • fermi is the name of my rat. lol

  • the gtx 295 handles physics a lot better... no lags there... there goes my choice(on the gtx300 series)

  • no it doesn't, it can do in some games (such s batman), but that's only because NVIDIA bought physX and made it for their cards only, instead of building GPUs that can handle it anyway, such as ATI. To me that was a stupid and extremely unethical move, as they could have invested the billions on R&D for better cards. And thats wat NVIDIA always does; if they can't join them, buy them out (eg physX, crysis, FC2(minorly))

  • To put it simply:

    ATI pioneers and breaks through performance barriers first

    Nvidia waits, observes, then charges on ahead

    kp

  • ATIs new batch of cards have a performance advantage over nvidia now. It won't last long though, the GTX300 series will be out soon enough and take back the #1 spot from ATI... again.

  • actually as both Programing and hardware moves to multithread, which is already happening, Nvidia will fail miserably since they aren't producing a hardware model that can keep up where as ATIs massive parallel processing with be able to handle the new extremes needed Nvidia doesn't even utilize FSAA and cant which when u use direct11 become much more noticeable the truth is Nvidia is good at 1 thing, paying companies to promote their product in games so ppl who know nothing think they are king

  • What im noticing is that while ATI has the higher AVG FPS if you compare 1:35 to 1:46 it seems that the explosion really slows down and gets choppy with ATI a lot more than Nvidia which is ACTUALLY noticeable during gameplay, whereas the diff btwn. 35 fps to 45fps is not very noticeable unless u use an fps counter.

  • trubitar do 5970 in crossfire and gtx 295 in sli thats a video ive been dying to see!!!!

  • 295 would get destroyed

  • probly but i wanna see the performance

  • stanbonys bench of this runs up to 107 average, eva classified 285s @1920x1200 everything set to the max ;-)

  • in my opinion, dual gpu cards a waste of time and money...u can get more performcne than an ati 5970 by getting 2 5870's instead..eache gpu has its own heatsink, and has a higher clock...same goes for nvidia..

  • given the cost gap this is not a good show from ATI

  • LOL wait tell Nvidia comes out with its new cards.... They will be twice as good and they will be cheaper.. Its to bad Ati comes out with new cards every month.. I feel for the people who bought the 5870's to see 3 weeks later they came out with the 5970's.... Fcuk!!

  • @dimpilsPEACE im still waiting on them nvidia cards ): i want to see if nvidia full fills their promise so i can get one of them gtx380's =D (or 3 =P ) wait..the 5970 isn a new card entirely...the people who got 2 5870's are actually doing better off no? 2x 5870's will beat the 5970, and thats what the 5970 basically is..except underclocked =P and they aren releasing anew card every month, they're releasing their lineup like how nvidia does aswell (like the gtx 295).

  • Cheaper? in what world do you live on?

  • Love the HD5970.

  • You guys are idiots no offense. Performance on iIsta and 7 for video cards is a 1-2 frame difference. 7 runs dx11, 10, and 9 like vista does too...

  • owned'em :'D

  • wow, i'm officially scared of this card now.

  • explosions effect 5970 more than the 295

  • Well of course they do, nvidia cards have physx.

  • fantastic......but the real battle will be when the nvidia start to sell a gt300 x2 Fermi Architecture....not now...

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  • I've got a question, Trubritar: Why use 1920 x 1080 instead of 1920 x 1200 or higher?

  • In the video, he is running it at 1920x1200. Idiot.

  • whats wrong with that, just cause you carnt run it.

  • what about 2x5970 VS 2xGtx295

  • could u try and sync the vid u'v done a couple like this still good tho don't mean to sound like an arse

  • so when the fuck are the 300 series coming out? by the time they come out, ATI will have 6000 series and fuck it up the ass by half the price =D

  • as always (:

  • 300 series, as far as i know will come in March 2010

  • I don't like how hot AMD and ATI gets.

  • actually the cards of the 5000 series gets colder than the nVidia's ones

  • I'll believe it when I see it. I have personal experience with a few cards/cpu's and know for a fact that everytime I used AMD/ATI, it made my PC room hot without overclocking. Heat will always be the biggest issue for me. I'd rather pay a few bucks more for a card that stays cool and isn't power hungry.

  • all you nshitia fanboys fail to realize how optimized this game is for nvidia

  • and please note his running windows 7 and the 295 is direct x10 and 5970 is dx11 dx10 cards seem to have lower performance in win7 wait for the 300 series where they are actually dx11

  • crysis is dx10, so the dx11 feature doesnt affect performance u moron --"

  • i never said anything about crysis i'm talking about his os he has a dx10 card on a dx11 os, you moron

  • i'll have to repeat

    that doesnt make ANY difference

  • How would you know? Do you have a dx11 card? probably not. I've tried windows 7 on a 260gtx and the fps were dropped by 10-15 on crysis compared to vista

  • @bensonak47 gtx 260 was never built for dx11, its simply ported to it..the architecture isnt optimized for dx11

  • I personally don't buy Nvidia products, after having several bad experiences and seeing bad reviews of over heating problems. I have stuck to AMD & ATI hardware and my HD4850 works beautifully in my rig, and runs very cool at 35c at idle and about 50c max on a full workload. All stock coolers as well I did not need any aditional cooling methods.

  • HD4850 is the second/third best performance/benefit card in the market ;)

    i guess it's in techpowerup that the graphs shows the 4830 as the king in CxB, followed by 9500gt and the 4850, but depending on the resolution the 4850 stays with the 2nd position ;)

  • Ah nice to know since I bought the overclocked version from XFX :) ty!

  • wow 12 frams on 5970

    roflmao

    tthere was not a huge difference imo, considering that 5970=2x5870 and 5870=295 in performance .... i'm surprised. can you imagine what the 300 series will do ?

  • It's funny how the 5970 only beat the 295 but a small margin and the 5900 series is ATI's so called "beast cards".....imagine wut the nVidia 300 series cards will do to the 5000 series from ATI.

    It will fukin MERK IT...NO COMPETITION!!

    It's like getting fucked in the ass by two dicks. You won't be able to stand up! You will fukin DIE! that's wuts gona happen to the 5000 series once the nVidia 300 series cards come out!!

    LOOOOL

  • read my mind

  • 6000 will come out..

    No competition? are you really that fanboy to nvidia?

    It's all about smart buying.. I'm sure you don't know what that's is.

  • or not ;o

    you seem to have experience when you talk about gettin' fucked in the ass by two dicks

    not gonna say anything more :x

  • ya, you're mom was telling me while i was picking her up from the streets.

    BTW....im her best client ; )

    OWNED!

  • when you need to tell by urself that you owned some1, that's really sad D;

    btw, if your only decete argument is talking about my mom and making up bs, i'm sry for you, i'm in another level then D;

  • keep in mind the gtx295 is 8 or 9 months old and it only has 8fps less than the hd5970

    i think who is the real winner (and every body)

    nvidia ftw

    nvidia meant to be played

  • Youre an idiot. There are no real drivers for the 5970 yet.

  • its a revolving door dood..ur just a fanboy..both cards r equally gr8..i prefer ati myself...im pickin one of these up in Jan, but there is allways gonna be one better up for release on XX and YY date....ATi will win..then Nvidia then back to ATi...its a back n forth tug...there is never a real Even battle..one will be old and one will be new...so this BS about how nvidia is old..blah blah blah...its gonna be the same thing when nvidia has sumthin new then ati will be back...

  • i do like nvidia, and have never owned an ati card, but i really think it depends on what card is best at the time, a month ago it was the 295

    now its 5970

  • actually, in GTA IV  it has half of the 5970 FPS

    32 to 64, and besides that, the CPU usage with the 295 stays in about 80%, and the 5970 put it on less than 30% ;o

  • dont worry the ati drivers arent that good yet

  • What is the name of the song from 0:13 to 0:42

  • i would like to know as well if any1 knows

  • Still waitin for nvidia. From the benchmark that got leaked it is a much better card.

  • Tat benchmark was fake, but doesn't mean the actual performance will be worse. Might be better, actually. GTX380 is single-GPU but rumored to keep up with the dual-GPU 5890.

  • The benchmarks that were released were proved to be fake, sadly.

    It's a shame. They were amazing, and ATi would have had to lower their prices in order to compete.

  • you mean, ati would have to lower their prices to half as always, then nvidia would have to lower their prices too, cuz we all know when the 300 series gets released, its price will be fking high ;p

  • 5970 is amazing!

  • ENOUGH of these futile comparisons, we GET IT the 5970 is SUPERIOR in just about every way!

  • Song?

  • WHAT THE FUCK?!

    EVERY VIDEO HAS A NVIDIA FANBOY TO SAY THATS NOT FAIR BECAUSE GTX 295 IS OLD! THEN HE WILL COMPARE WITH WHAT?

    Accept that ATI now is in the first and if the comparision seems to not be fair its because NVIDIA sucked to quickly adapt to the market. And even if the newers GF100 do better than those new ATIs they are too late, march 2010, laughtable. 40nm is not the cause, because until there ATI will keep selling the hd 5000 series.

  • not worth it if your cards already a 200 card lol I was expecting a lot more from the HD5970

  • 295 gtx had more min frame rate than hd 5970

  • LOL at this level theres virtualy no diference in gameplay because either goes down when the processor is needed. If Nvidias can handle some CPU on their vgas maybe doings some friendships with some companys to makes dirty things as always, like disabilitaing the CPU and many other things when the game is played with an ATI's VGA...

  • how do you figure that out?

  • Because explosions normaly are processed by CPUs, and not GPUs, did you know that?

    O

  • It occurs in some games with some engines, like mirrors edge, that i can remember now.

  • No an Nvidia rep. said there will be two entries in the GTX 300 series that will be named GTX 360 and GTX 380, so no GF100.

    This was reported about a week ago.

  • The GF100 was reported two days ago.

  • I need a link. I got my information from a news site stating that they had interviewed an Nvidia sales rep. and he stated that GTX 360 and 380 would be arriving early next year. I can't find the article now, but I know what I read.

  • Why would they call the Fermi GTX when the T stands for TESLA? rofl.

  • I asked for a link, jackass.

  • Kick ass setup !

  • Nvidia GTX 360 en GTX 380 are coming out I think ;-)

  • based on fermi ?

  • search a little

    Fermi = March 2010

  • Oh look this conference about Fermi looks interesting. Maybe they'll talk about his ide- oh wait, no. It's about the Fermi telescope, not Fermi.

    Oh look, there's this thing about Fermi coming out in march 2010. I wonder what it is. Maybe they found an old unpublished paper of his and - oh wait, no. It's just a graphics card...

    god dammit why can't people choose different names for their products and projects. they should stop naming objects after scientists

  • HAHAHAHA LMAO

    luvd that :'D

  • hey trubritar can you show us in a detailed video on how to install cpu because im thinking on upgrading from a p4 ht to a core 2 quad and im not shure how to do it thanks man

  • i think there are enough tutorials on placing a cpu.

    but first check if ur motherboard is supporting the cpu u want.

  • yes it deos support it 780i motherbord goes with the core 2 quad and all of the tutorials i found are crappy quality and done by amatures or are 5 years old

  • i wonder why in hell u took a pentium 4 with a board like that but ok.

    this should be ok watch?v=KMcC_TsT-bs&NR=1 he just put on too much cooling paste. (when buying a new core2quad cpu, the cooler will have cooling paste alrdy on it so u don't have to worry about that.