HHO plates in parallel, 2.2V to 2.4V 40Amps Output, less then 8Amps input

[tobyde11]

Sorry but your voice is really annoying, and your video therefore became meaningless

[HaveHandsOpen]

I have no heat loss in the cell & I'm not over loading my Alt. I know the wattage read my comments that go with the video.

[HaveHandsOpen]

I use KOH & 316L plates - 2 Table spoons per Gal.

[delvis11]

Have you tried koh?

May help with the foaming.

[HaveHandsOpen]

I have 1 (that's one cell ) only all plates in parallel the power doesn't skip around in the cell at all. The DC to DC converter is about 93%, 7% is power loss. Your PWM has a loss TOO! I'm putting 40 Amp in to my cell with less then 8 Amp load on my Alt. with a PWM I would put 40 Amp load on my Alt. NO THANK YOU!

[jjenson2006]

@HaveHandsOpen Every path in your generator is called a cell. The 40 amps you send to your generator gets divided between each pair of plates (cells). At 40 amps, you are only putting 6.67 amps through each cell (or pair of plates). If your cells (plates) were in series with a PWM and you wanted only 6.67 amps going through each of them, you would only need to draw 6.67 amps from your alternator.

Losses in a PWM are much smaller because it's just a switch, there's no conversion taking place.

[HaveHandsOpen]

@jjenson2006 I have 20 plates in my wet cell.

[jjenson2006]

@HaveHandsOpen Then you have 19 cells (paths of current) that are each pulling only 2.1 amps

[HaveHandsOpen]

@jjenson2006 So you say, stop doing math and do the work. My system is working, is yours ? I get 5 more miles per gal, my oil stay clean longer.

[jjenson2006]

@HaveHandsOpen It's not what I say, it's what I learned in class almost 30 years ago when I was studying to become an Electrical Engineer. Among us Engineers, this law of science is very basic like 1 + 1 = 2 and it is applied to almost every project we work on. I'm not denying your mileage claims. I'm just pointing out that you're not putting 40 amps through your cells while drawing less than 8 amps. Making these kinds of claims doesn't do your credibility any good.

[HaveHandsOpen]

@jjenson2006 SIL40C-12SADJ-VJ made by Artesyn Technologies read the data & application note 132 rev.11 then let me know.

[jjenson2006]

@HaveHandsOpen What do you want me to "let you know" about? It's a dc/dc converter which reduces voltage. Does the output give a greater current capacity than the input? Yes. Does it give a greater power output than input? No. You get 40 amp output divided between each cell. Your input is consuming 108W (13.5V * 8A) If you had 40 amps going through each cell at 2.2V, you would consume 2.2 * 40 = 88W at each cell. 19 cells would consume 88 * 19 = 1672W. Do you think your getting 1672W from 108W?

[jjenson2006]

If you're pulling out 40 amps on a six plate parallel generator, you are only putting 6.67 amps through each cell. You are losing 1.3 amps to heat within the converter. If you were using a PWM instead with a series configuration, the 8 amps you are pulling from the alternator would be going through all the cells.

[hhoforvolts]

That's the correct way to do it.

Richard

[uawwildbob]

this is a sweet set up dude. one of the best i have seen up to date. have ya measured the ltrs per min ? at 8 apms