Really ? I work for a major plane maker in the Seattle area in composite repair,I use film adhesive ,carbon Fiber ,prepreg,Kevlar , honeycomb core ,metal bond, DVD (I'm sure your familiar with that process) So I think I know a couple of things myself. And I'm discussing processes to which this video is about .There is no way one could not imitate Boeing process when building a project of this size weather Airbus copied it or stole it.
@davetileguy You made my day...it's a so laughable assertion. Aluminium planes are been made since more than 80 years by the European nations. The English and the French made together the Concorde which was the most advanced transportation plane of this time. The Airbus uses a lot of technologies developped for the Concorde.
@MrAluminox Really really? LOL ok let's go there, DeHavlin Coment 114,Sud Aviation Caravelle 282 planes ,concord 20...... VS BOEING starting at the 247 in 1933 to the 737 NG ,777.........36,425 PLANES !!! thats not including the MD-80 or the 787 0r fighter jets ,OR HELICOPTERS OR the ATLAS 5 ROCKET OR HYDROFOIL SHIPS OR GPS SATELLITES .next please
@davetileguy yes you made it again as you're out of subjec. We are discussing about technology not numbers of built planes; that has nothing to do for our purpose. We are about technical knowledge. Europe has a long tradition of light alloys work, like the Americans or Russians. and every builder develops its own techniques: some are in public domain, some are patented, some are simply secret...I'm a structural engineer in high tech composites so I have some informations.
i don't see why they want to keep the process for constructing the wing secret. Surely by sharing youre knowledge with others leads to advancements in engineering.
@210482fmj That knowledge you have gained was extremely expensive to develop, why give it to your competitors free of cost? That's a good way to loose your competitve edge in your market. Besides, if everyone does things the same way advancements aren't made.
@alderaforall the more people who think like that keep the world the way it is and not free. WE should share all knowledge learned and never keep any secrets about technology. THat leads to advanced ideas. the more people who know about things the better. You should not be thinking about money making. THe way forward is to make the world a free place that exists without money
@210482fmj well, when you develop a technology that's cost you millions of dollars, feel free to walk over to your competitors shop to tell him how smart and clever you are. While you have to factor the cost of developing that technology into your price for the the product, he can quote the same job for half the price you do. Who do you think the customer is going to choose? The cheaper quote!!! Is any of this making sense? See what you get by giving your work away for free, an empty fridge.
@210482fmj What you are suggesting has been completely rejected by all developed societies, which is why we have patent laws and trade secret laws. These laws solve the free-rider problem, which is where one entity will wait for another to develop a technology and then will reverse engineer the product for much less than it took to develop the product and sell it cheaper. They are actually incentives to creation. Patent law has a quid pro quo of disclosure to the public for a limited monopoly
During the machining of the aluminum wing skin....stresses build up in the material itself. In order to normailze the material after the machining operation it is baked in the oven to release all of the stress during the machining process.
@eproductions2008 Baking the wing not only relieves the stresses as it would do on a steel structure (a boat for example) but improves the qualities of the aluminium alloy itself.
This is taken if I believe from the "World's Biggest Airliner" a Discovery programme. The narrator for the Aussie broadcast is far more agreeable than Andrew Lincoln whose voice was used on the British transmission.
So the cracked wings came from this factory?
lihaoyang 1 month ago
@lihaoyang I believe the construction or design not the real problem. My opinion, the goal of low fuel consumption is the culprit.
capespring 4 weeks ago
Really ? I work for a major plane maker in the Seattle area in composite repair,I use film adhesive ,carbon Fiber ,prepreg,Kevlar , honeycomb core ,metal bond, DVD (I'm sure your familiar with that process) So I think I know a couple of things myself. And I'm discussing processes to which this video is about .There is no way one could not imitate Boeing process when building a project of this size weather Airbus copied it or stole it.
davetileguy 2 months ago
What secret? they stole all their methods from Boeing!!
davetileguy 2 months ago
@davetileguy You made my day...it's a so laughable assertion. Aluminium planes are been made since more than 80 years by the European nations. The English and the French made together the Concorde which was the most advanced transportation plane of this time. The Airbus uses a lot of technologies developped for the Concorde.
MrAluminox 2 months ago
@MrAluminox Really really? LOL ok let's go there, DeHavlin Coment 114,Sud Aviation Caravelle 282 planes ,concord 20...... VS BOEING starting at the 247 in 1933 to the 737 NG ,777.........36,425 PLANES !!! thats not including the MD-80 or the 787 0r fighter jets ,OR HELICOPTERS OR the ATLAS 5 ROCKET OR HYDROFOIL SHIPS OR GPS SATELLITES .next please
davetileguy 2 months ago
@MrAluminox Wel I'm waiting..did I make your day again?
davetileguy 2 months ago
@davetileguy yes you made it again as you're out of subjec. We are discussing about technology not numbers of built planes; that has nothing to do for our purpose. We are about technical knowledge. Europe has a long tradition of light alloys work, like the Americans or Russians. and every builder develops its own techniques: some are in public domain, some are patented, some are simply secret...I'm a structural engineer in high tech composites so I have some informations.
MrAluminox 2 months ago
i don't see why they want to keep the process for constructing the wing secret. Surely by sharing youre knowledge with others leads to advancements in engineering.
210482fmj 6 months ago
@210482fmj That knowledge you have gained was extremely expensive to develop, why give it to your competitors free of cost? That's a good way to loose your competitve edge in your market. Besides, if everyone does things the same way advancements aren't made.
alderaforall 5 months ago
@alderaforall the more people who think like that keep the world the way it is and not free. WE should share all knowledge learned and never keep any secrets about technology. THat leads to advanced ideas. the more people who know about things the better. You should not be thinking about money making. THe way forward is to make the world a free place that exists without money
210482fmj 5 months ago
@210482fmj well, when you develop a technology that's cost you millions of dollars, feel free to walk over to your competitors shop to tell him how smart and clever you are. While you have to factor the cost of developing that technology into your price for the the product, he can quote the same job for half the price you do. Who do you think the customer is going to choose? The cheaper quote!!! Is any of this making sense? See what you get by giving your work away for free, an empty fridge.
alderaforall 5 months ago
@210482fmj What you are suggesting has been completely rejected by all developed societies, which is why we have patent laws and trade secret laws. These laws solve the free-rider problem, which is where one entity will wait for another to develop a technology and then will reverse engineer the product for much less than it took to develop the product and sell it cheaper. They are actually incentives to creation. Patent law has a quid pro quo of disclosure to the public for a limited monopoly
marinegrunt0341 3 months ago
@210482fmj HaHA HA thats funny why don't you set an example and send me all your money!
davetileguy 2 months ago
During the machining of the aluminum wing skin....stresses build up in the material itself. In order to normailze the material after the machining operation it is baked in the oven to release all of the stress during the machining process.
pvougi1 7 months ago
@pvougi1 Just further proves getting baked relieves stress. Lol.
eproductions2008 7 months ago 2
@eproductions2008 Baking the wing not only relieves the stresses as it would do on a steel structure (a boat for example) but improves the qualities of the aluminium alloy itself.
MrAluminox 2 months ago
four supercharged engines...wow
langsteubuisnaamooit 7 months ago
If this jerk says aluminium again I'll cut off his...........
madisonelectronic 8 months ago
@madisonelectronic you mean YOUR ........ right?
MrEiriku 5 months ago
Airbus A380 simply the best.
TheSejan23 9 months ago
so... why were the wings baked? :S It doesnt actually say...
Prasopchai 10 months ago
@Prasopchai
nevermind, found the answers:
cadinfo (.) net/aerospace/building-the-worlds-largest-passenger-aircraft-wings/all-pages
Creep forming
Prasopchai 10 months ago
@Prasopchai to get the right shape, i think.
Hapesky 7 months ago
I love the description about the 'supercharged engines' ! It just goes to illustrate the poor quality of programme making today.
pasoundman 1 year ago
This is taken if I believe from the "World's Biggest Airliner" a Discovery programme. The narrator for the Aussie broadcast is far more agreeable than Andrew Lincoln whose voice was used on the British transmission.
SentiUganda 2 years ago
Holy, 32000 components. SO MANY LITTERS OF FUEL!!
DeucesINC 2 years ago
@DeucesINC 32 000 components made by the lowest bidder :)
CTFlyer7 1 year ago
@CTFlyer7
Yes, and that's why planes fall out of sky everyday, because the lowest bidder manufacturers parts.
what a douche...:( stupid remark.....
loudgonzo 1 year ago
@loudgonzo Oh relax dude it's a joke.
CTFlyer7 1 year ago