Balanced Brawl Showcase

[TeamScyther]

someone should like list all of the songs



[supercasper96]

what the song name for sonic?

[pontyfaxjr]

I rewatch this video all the time for the music.

[Rougealienpirate]

If your going to buff Lucario you have to remove his Aura ability completely as well as prevent snake from using c4 on the air

[RoDryBones]

are all the stages in this patch?

[zattacks]

There should be a counter-spamming penalty for Marth/Ike.

[quenchify]

can't you just decrease the damage ratio in settings in regular brawl?

[Neko3031]

@quenchify ... read it and you'll see the difference

[Rannosteachs]

how did i miss this for over a year? i stopped playing the smash brothers series because brawl was so imba and switched guilty gear but this has been around for how long?!?! gosh darn it. well i'll need to go dust off the ole wii and get back in shape because this looks great.

[Stammer6]

Dude, you can't make a video like this where you've got all these great songs and not give us a song list to check the full songs out!! Where's the song list?!

I'd at least like to know Fox, Sonic, Zelda, and Bowser. Lots of the others I wanted I was able to get thanks to the song lyrics at least lol.

[inditled]

whats the music when the ice climbers were on

[AlexMarseglia]

That's Works For Wii Pal 4.3v2?

[shadow80926]

whats  a Balanced Brawl ?

[Britishrain]

its doubtful but is it possible to go online with balanced brawl?

[OfficerCooper]

Uh... huh?

[NekuSakuri]

@OfficerCooper can u still have stage or character PSA's hacks on balanced brawl?

(question aimed at anyone else as well)

[THEasianpianodude]

@NekuSakuri Yes, you can. On the Balanced Brawl website, it said that all you needed to do was have the psa hacks on the sd card with balanced brawl, and it would load the hacks along with balanced brawl.

[YOMAMA288alyurbase]

Something i've been wondering: can you use more than just 2 players? Because every video i've seen about Balanced Brawl only shows 2 people.

[OfficerCooper]

Of course.  You can do Home Run Derby if you want.

[ThePlatiepoos]

Continued...... ZSS- Las Ketchup (Asereje) Toon Link- *shrug* Pit- Rave On (Killer7) Peach- What is Love? (Haddway) Luigi-Yakkety Sax Fox- Supernova (???) Wolf- Space Jam Theme Song (Quad City DJ's) Sonic-Running in the 90's (Max Coveri) Zelda/Sheik-All the Things She Said (TATU) Bowser- Anybody? Ike-Don't Stop Me Now (Queen) DK- We Like to Party (Vengaboys) Lucas- Tunak Tunak Tun (Dahler Mehndi) Ness- Take On Me (A-ha) Yoshi- Forever Young (Jay-Z) Samus- Jerk it Out (The Caesars)

[ThePlatiepoos]

MK/Mario-I Will Survive (Gloria Gaynor) Snake-Stayin' Alive (The Beegees) Wario-Put Your Hands Up For Detroit (Fedde Le Grand) Falco-U Can't Touch This (MC Hammer) Diddy-Banana Phone (Raffi) King DDD-Kasta Sten (Slagmalskubben) Marth-Tarzan Boy (Baltimora) G&W-Hardware Store (Weird Al) Pikachu-Thunder (The Prodigy) Olimar-Push it to the Limit (Paul Engemann) Ice Climbers-Better Off Alone (Alice Deejay) ROB-Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger (Daft Punk) Kirby/Lucario- Couldn't find. Anyone else?

[Trace0002222]

Samus>Lucario

[mizzmauricio29]

what was the music for mr.gameandwach, iceclimers, rob,

[camike1231]

cuz marth is already perfect for it.

[Frizzurd]

the jungle boy song was perfect for Marth and im not meaning it in a negative way... hes just way too pretty

[PaladinOfGame]

Do you mind adding the list of songs to your description please? Thanks.

[PaladinOfGame]

lmao Mr. Game & Watch, Hardware Store xD

[metalsonic546]

Where is player 1?

[TheSiIentXelxas]

LOL "What is Love"

[IvanUM15]

what is the song the ice climbers pls?

[DatHottneSS]

SOMEONE TELL ME THE NAME OF THAT SONG @ 5:02

[rqchunterx]

LOL !!  Epic music!!

[Mysticpez]

Whats the Music Durig DeDeDe's Part?

[ThePlatiepoos]

You should probably just post all the music in the description. >_>

[Alvaromanx]

whats the song when Ice climber get into scene :D!

[VonSilvermoon]

Is there any chance you can post the song list for each character? Cause it seems you're getting asked a lot about different songs xD

[TheOriginalSmasher]

Will someone PLEASE tell me the songs for Ness, Lucas, and Lucario?? Please!

[BollyBibby]

I'm having some issues getting this to work. I moved all my custom stages to an SD card, put the ZIP file on a different SD card, put it in my Wii, and went to stage builder but all it does is go to stage builder. I tried extracting the file, and it didn't work. I tried again with the file NOT extracted, and it didn't work. What am I doing wrong?

[TheOriginalSmasher]

@BollyBibby Are any files on the SD card still zipped? that would be why if so.

[BollyBibby]

@TheOriginalSmasher No, I extracted them and afterward, they weren't zipped, and it still didn't work

[TheOriginalSmasher]

@BollyBibby no clue then, sorry.

[TheOriginalSmasher]

Anyone know the song that plays during Lucarios section?

[DireVulcan]

I would like to know, during Yoshi's section, what version of Forever Young that is. I can't seem to find it on YouTube and it'll be pretty cool if perhaps the uploader can reveal that info? lol

[OfficerCooper]

I think it was a clip I extracted from just the normal iTunes version.

[Ganton2]

6:46 Lol, internet

Very well done!

[juannunez3000]

@Ganton2

"lol, internet" what the shit? fail...

[Ganton2]

@juannunez3000 Running in the 90's, or what the internet fad calls the song: 'lol internet'

Internet knowledge #FAIL

[ololkenshinlolo]

When i saw marth no changes i stoped this vid X_X

[OfficerCooper]

Ha. It's to Marth's Advantage that MK has been toned down to his level though, since Marth is the closest thing to MK's fighting style. Also, Marth does have a change now: the "stored" lag from up-b on a ledge has been fixed. That was a really annoying bug for Marth!

[Digitalsp33r]

Good job.

[SiLeNtDo0m]

Finally, what are the tunes when Fox and Sonic are on?

[OfficerCooper]

Supernova and Ruuning In The 90s

We just finished the 2010 version of Balanced Brawl, and are working towards a PAL version.

[SiLeNtDo0m]

Thanks a lot and that's really good to hear. Will this version be available to those without Homebrew too (I have Homebrew but just out of curiousity)?

[OfficerCooper]

Any hypothetical PAL version will be utilizing Riivolution, which I know can be booted with bannerbomb on NTSC. We'll provide details whenever this happens.

[Megido]

I really like the video, but I think some captions to point out the changes to the characters would be nice. Some players (such as myself) don't remember enough about how everything works normally to see all the differences that are displayed in the video, as awesome as it is. I can catch the obvious changes, but not the more subtle ones.

[SiLeNtDo0m]

Oh yeah and Benny Hill+Luigi=WIN

[SiLeNtDo0m]

Darn. I don't have Homebrew, I can never get it (thanks to the patch update a while ago) and I live in the PAL region T-T Does that mean I can't play at all?

[TH3Z3R0H0UR]

so ice climbers are useless... even if they do more damage every character still has a zero death on them....

[Patmancav66]

can you please list all of the songs you used in this please?

[randomdude222]

cool. Will there be any BB tournaments around the US?

[randomdude222]

Oh ok. So i can get the same way I got brawl+? Via SD card and file(s) then load it up on the HBC?

[OfficerCooper]

Sure.

[randomdude222]

Wait a balanced patch? Im not sure I follow.

[OfficerCooper]

For many games, especially PC games, it is common for developers to issue patches to update and balance their game--removing abusive glitches and improving underpowered characters. Nintendo does not issue such patches for Brawl, but this is an unofficial patch produced by fans after a lot of work.

[randomdude222]

What exactly is Balanced Brawl? This like the 3rd time this week I've heard about,

[OfficerCooper]

Balanced Brawl is an unofficial balance patch for Brawl, putting into use the knowledge the competitive community has built over the last two years.

[Anthon1996]

04:02

WTF?!

[TOYD3]

"When life gives you lemons, tech chase lemons."

This is my new mantra for life.

[curlythesaxman]

so sonic's spring spikes now?

[LirokMurasame]

why try to fix something that is broken when perfection has long presented itself?

[Bones0]

Does this address the issue of not being able to combo any of the characters or planking to stall out the game?

[Horcish]

They don't change game mechanics. If you want those things, go see Brawl+ or something. Balanced Brawl is only meant to try and improve matchups + stage counterpicks.

[Bones0]

I know, I was just trolling. Obviously I need some practice.

[G102Y5568]

I don't understand, did you remove canceling as well as chaingrabs?

[OfficerCooper]

I'm not even sure what you are asking--canceling of what?

[G102Y5568]

@OfficerCooper Like, for example, when Peaches would use their F-Air and then immediately do a neutral A upon landing, or how Foxes would use a DAir and immediately use an FSmash after hitting the ground, essentially being an inescapable combo. I think it's called "cancelling frames" or something.

[OfficerCooper]

That's just the normal timing for aerials attacks--when landing puts you in the attack landing state and when it doesn't. We don't change move timings, including aerial landings. All that is the same.

[G102Y5568]

@OfficerCooper Oh, I see. Did you do anything to adjust projectiles so that they wouldn't cause such a problem for slow characters?

[OfficerCooper]

No, although Ganondorf in particular got some good options for getting past projectiles. This is even more true in the next release.

[G102Y5568]

@OfficerCooper Ooh, that sounds very interesting. I know I could probably find this all out myself with a minimal amount of research, but is there any way I can sign up for testing of Balanced Brawl, and keep up to date with all of its changes?

[G102Y5568]

@OfficerCooper Where can I go to keep up with Balanced Brawl updates and testing?

[Liljoegi]

This looked promising at first. . .But then I see you not changing G&W no . . .just no

[OfficerCooper]

Mr. Game & Watch is already a very impressive character who is able to compete at a high level already. The other person behind this project plays him almost exclusively.

[Liljoegi]

@OfficerCooper Ya I know that you need to make him less cheap

[OfficerCooper]

Ah--well, a lot of the smaller changes to characters are *specifically* targeted to deal with Marth and G&W. Both those characters are also getting small nerfs in the upcoming next release.

[Liljoegi]

Excellent. I should of done the research myself... I apologize for my first comment and take it back. Thanks for words ;)

[GanonkingAkatsuki7]

u shouldnt nerf his bair considering praxis finding a way around, correct me if i have the players name wrong..

[Blubolouis]

I love you for what you did to Ike.

<3

[becongeneral]

This looks very well put together and i am very happy to see the ice climbers not being used as chain grabbers, everyone thinks thats all they are good for but no one has actually took the time to use them... i was looking at ivysaur, and it was hard to see it in this video but does olimar get the same benefit with his up-b as well? if so that will teach those ledge faggots a thing or two. isn't giving ike spamable forward b a bad thing? i mean make it so he isnt in fall mode but not spamable.

[OfficerCooper]

ICs are pretty buffed otherwise, especially their dair.

Olimar doesn't get the ability to repeat up-b for several reasons; he has vastly more aerial mobility than Ivysaur, and he doesn't stop moving horizontally after doing his up-b. Also, he has armor on down-b as an extra tool.

Ike's side-b is still very punishable, as it's pretty slow for a close-range attack. It only decreases the effectiveness of running away from Ike, and helps his recovery some.

[nikc101]

its interesting, but ics are seriously nerfed without chains. :(

[Tom03110]

hahaha you made the spring spike? That shit felt cheap as hell even in minus.

[ThaddeusMalkane]

Can anyone please tell me the name of the song that plays during Fox's segment? I've had that song for years, and I've never actually known its name or its artist.

[Fawriel]

... *drool dripping from mouth*

[Timic83amv]

why is shiek twice

[OfficerCooper]

Uh... huh?

[AvatarZ]

6:41

Perfect song choice for Sonic. "Running in the 90s" indeed! :D

[fxtricky]

The Opening is WAAAAAAAAY Funny!!! OMG!!! porr metaknite hehehe. But for real though Falcos music and Dedede was the best ones far as im concerned. Cant touch this!!!!!

[deVall3y]

its kinda stupid to try to "balance" too much imo. melee is amazing and isnt balanced at all. i guess you should nerf MK beause I realize some people want him banned lol but you should focus on fun gameplay than balancing -too much-.

[deVall3y]

oh I read that this is just meant to balance brawl ok forget about my first comment. I still think its stupid to have 30 brawl versions though, the community should have focused on one brawl mode and made it acceptable by everyone. the more brawl modes that come out, the stronger the original (and flawed and boring) game becomes

[OfficerCooper]

Balance is a sort of poorly-defined concept, but most designers attribute it to meaning something beyond equality of results. (Who wins how much, ect.) Balance is part of a larger goal of deep, compelling gameplay.

For example, balancing mirror matchups is a big deal for many designers (and this project) even though result equality isn't a concern. You still have to make sure the gameplay itself is balanced in the sense that it isn't degenerate.

[deVall3y]

oh yeah I totally understand what you mean.

[OfficerCooper]

For example, if a character had an infinite chaingrab that didn't work on any character but himself, That wouldn't be a problem to "balance" if all you cared about was equality. No good designer would call it "balanced" though, since it's degenerate.

[turazrok]

I approve of the chrono trigger, queen. Heck I like all of the music :D

[GuardianOfTheKey]

that samus segment was sexy.

[Calvo819]

@DarkRoast

lol you beat meat knights with mario :D

[MasterHand243]

The Songs u set-up fit them perfectly...

[cloudglider]

If they intended to have songs that had lyrics in them I think they could have tried harder. Such as Eat You Up by BoA for Kirby maybe? It doesn't really matter and the current music still fits well however, and the music doesn't really matter anyway, though.

[Samsasrenjet]

I have to give kudos to the project. It really balances Brawl. However, the game play still isn't for me. I prefer Brawl+ right now. Hopefully someone will pull through for the Melee community and make a mod that makes Brawl resemble Melee's game play down to the tee.

[Mofat]

woot! Samus has kill power

[morycce]

hm cool for all the brawl fans.

hope someday melee 2.0 comes out. (and not brawl+ tho it's trying)

[DarkRoast]

eh.....I've beaten the worst meat knights with my Mario......I don't feel the need for this patch. Noobs will grab a hold of this quick though.

[FierceFang]

Well, as you said, they ARE the worst.

[Axiomatix]

@DarkRoast

It really doesn't help that all the characters are even if you still suck at the game. That's not the point of the project...it's to change what makes it impossible to enjoy all parts of the game at high-level play.

[DarkRoast]

I aware of that. But I'm fine with the way it was made. I'll admit at first i was dissapointed just with the speed and not knowing how to beat certain characters but I'm good with all that now(Except tripping it sucks). It's a good patch but not for me, I'm probably part of the very few people who play brawl and would rarely ever go back to Melee.

[TrueGedeon]

It's just me or ike's and yoshi's foward b doesn't make them helpless anymore?

[fireemblemaddict128]

ROB's full charged laser is... awesome?

Wah?

Yoshi's fair can bury?

o:

OMG MISSILES STORMS TELL ME IT'S ALL TRUE

[TaterSalad0811]

@fireemblemaddict128

It's all true

[bobelloch11]

how it works on a pal version?

[Mechasonic64]

What song is of the part of Zelda?

And what song is of the part of Samus?

xD I need this songs...

[kinetikgambit]

@Mechasonic64

All the things she said by TATU and Jerk it out by The Caesars

[Drillz88]

I looked at Link's upgrades and it's not that great. He is the 2nd worst character in the game and deserves more upgrades than that. If they made Link's grab and Spin Attack faster, with less lag, then that would make all the difference.

[ChoPrinn]

Have you seen his arrows in action? They can rape pretty hard.

I do agree he could've used something of a slightly bigger buff though, although he's not the only one.

[TriggerheartExcelica]

At least you had the good sense to replace the audio with some decent music.

[sapphir4444]

Sonic's spring as a spike... that's just genius.

[ChoPrinn]

Fox's section, short as it is, makes me shudder with manly joy.

[ploperkid]

If I install Balanced Brawl, would I be able to return back to regular Brawl whenever I want?

[lenovo747]

I feel Brawl+ over Balance Brawl. Both balance the game, but I like the changes in physics change and combos.

[UTubeGangster1]

Balanced Brawl is BullShit

[OfficerCooper]

cool story bro

[K9GM3]

What's the song played during Sheik and Zelda's demonstration?

[SniperNightOwl]

rofl "Take on me" for Ness

[RealBigDeal22]

Fuck brawl. Fuck brawl+(tell + him to eat a dick) Long live to balanced brawl and nintendo should approve it.

[Yoshifire98]

Goodbye old brawl hello balanced brawl =D

[jjjm640]

ike side-b = no helpless? wtf? how is that at all balanced

[Sonar009]

Ike's recovery and Mobility were both lacking to the extent that he was at a disadvantage to many characters. The none helpless-inducing state gives him better mobility and recovery, thus bringing him up to where the other characters are.

At least that's the way the creators told it.

[Blitzmidfielder]

Because it means he can recover now.

[jjjm640]

he sure can now, with one of the best recoveries in BB

[Fortenium]

Man, love how much the YTMND Soundtrack is used in this video! Fantastic!!! ^^

5/5

Great compilation of many matches.

[TheBrownScourge]

Bowzer doesnt have his grab release shenanigans :(

I am saddened

@ Crusty

DELETE ALL custom stages first

[0ddler]

Melee

[mythmonster2]

Can someone tell me the Sonic song please? I swear I've heard it before.

[Fortenium]

"Running in the 90's" - Max Coveri

[Sonar009]

The Samus semi-combo at the end was awesome.

[crustymethaddict]

"Press A to "Launch Game" when prompted. Brawl should restart." i uploaded the files on the sd card and booted up brawl, went to the stage builder and nothing happened??

[Prophet6000]

Can Someone list these songs i need to put them on brawl lol i think im try bb on my other sd card i got brawl+

[Devhawk124]

Cool Up-b spring spike for sonic

[mythmonster2]

Spring spikes for Sonic? Me like.

[bookmanCS]

lol marios b-throw is reminescent of the smash bros. 64 days.

[xXDynamosXx]

lol, sonic

[John12346]

0:50

I came.

[ThePlatiepoos]

Just thought I'd say that the King Dedede segment is inspired by the machinima puff pong. It's pretty cool, and it's on youtube.

[JoiXco]

Eh.

I like reppin' the low tiers.

It makes getting up the ranks a challenge. It makes you proud.

Certainly for accuracy's sake, BB would be fun to try.

[fraudster111]

lol. I dont think this will replace regular brawl. People spend months learning how IC chain grab and because some dude hates been 0-death with one grab. BOOOHOOO. You can never replace the original. NEVER!!!!ONEONEONE11111111

[Sonar009]

The IC chain grab is the only one still intact, and coincidentally is the only one that works on G&W and Jigglypuff in vBrawl, which the two people who coded this main.

[thanyou]

B+ replaced Vbrawl, so why can't this too? Besides, I think this is how brawl should've been. So I will gladly support it

[GunmasterLombardi]

Brawl+ is an unofficial hack. It, and Balanced Brawl will NOT replace vBrawl.

I support BB btw.

[Joker490Frozen]

Lol at the ZSS song cause I actually know it XD

[FailProofFrank]

I really wanna try out this balance brawl sometime...and may i say amazing music choices for everybody...(especially Ike)

[Vwashk]

So the goal is to make every character as good as Diddy? So they remove IC infinites without giving them anything else while the ICs are LOWER on the tier list than Diddy?

Balanced my ass

[OfficerCooper]

ICs have stronger smashes, a better nair, and much better dair.

[moomoomamoo]

=/ balanced brawl did 2 things. One was to elimate all infinites and overly abused attacks. Second was to balance everyone's dmg, knock back, and recovery.

They removed I.C.'s inf. (1) But they improved I.C.'s dmg and knock back (2)

[LinkPS]

learn stuff about the mod before making a sh1tty comment that will make u look stupid..

the mod is amazing, congratulations to the modders and testers.. nintendo should adopt the changes and update everyone's brawl's with this!!!!

[simbiot04]

dumb noob its not an update its a hack.

[Alvaromanx]

what its the name of the song in 6:14?

[OfficerCooper]

Fox's song is "Supernova"

[Alvaromanx]

thanks, but please Can you tell me the name of the group?

[WindTouzoku]

^_^^_^_^_^_

[anvilsnare]

I think B+ is much better.....

But this is my own opinion...

[Blitzmidfielder]

The Pit song is "Killer 7 - Rave On".

[llumys]

What song is playing during the D3 montage?

[OfficerCooper]

"Kasta Sten"

[chicomelee]

2:12 hurray for no easy chaingrabs XD

[Revolutionist2]

Could I have a song list for this video?

There are some good ones.

I like SSBBB it's got a good ring to it.

[smashmaniac2008]

for Lucario it should've been Rock the Dragon.

[pseudohippie55]

that's pretty awesome

bravo my friend

[steve9014]

mad props on this. amazing idea. so far im a fan of the changes to Zelda/sheik.

will a will there be a balenced Brawl+? or is this the "real deal"?