i find it strange, when talking to gay people, that any other "condition" that you can name,be it a sexual issue or a moral issue or a behavior issue,is always treated as something that can either be controlled by the person or changed.all except being gay.that is off limits.God loves all of us,but the only way He can help us is if we are honest with ourselves.if we have in our hearts that something cant change,then we have already given up. is God strong enough to change what u say cant be? YES
Deviancy is an act or an action. Deviancy describes behavior, not an inborn or inherent condition. Homosexuality is a state of being. It is like being being born with blue eyes and blonde hair as opposed to having brown eyes and auburn hair.
@furlvr1961 so your saying other people arent born with inherent conditions that cause them to act unnaturally,only gay people are. same with addicts,they arent born that way,only gay people can claim that.sounds like someone is being a justification nazi.if gay people can use that excuse to rationalize their "behavior" then others should also be entitled to.also deviancy simply means to deviate from what is normal and natural.and deep in your heart u know homosexuality isnt natural.
i have a serious question, i pray that it doesnt offend anyone,but it probably will.however im still gonna ask it because i honestly want to know.other than the fact that most homosexuals are consenting adults (though not all) what makes them different from someone who was "born" with a sexual deviancy? is it genetics that make a person any one of the philiacs? did God make them like that?
In reading the comments below, I could almost palpate the molten, venomous, hatred spewed forth by those who shamefully would take the name, "Christian", and probably worse, Seventh-day Adventists; the very ones who should be demonstrating the most Christ-like love and compassion of any spiritual body. Of these, I can almost hear our Lord say, "Go away, I never knew you. You never were My friends". Matthew 7:21-23
Whether you actually act out and allow yourself to love someone (again heterosexual or homosexual) is a choice, that is true. But living a live without love is a very unfulfilling life and one that I don't wish on anyone, and it was God who gave the first human a partner to share their life with.
There is no correlation between drugs/alcohol and a sexual orientation. Do you compare being heterosexual to being a substance abuse addict? Whether to use an abusive substance (alcohol, drugs, sugar, caffeine, food in general) is a choice, but having an attraction to who you love (whether heterosexual or homosexual) is not a choice. It is something that is coded into your DNA.
@floydpoenitz according to the very same "scientists" that you get your "DNA" information from, addiction is also coded in "DNA". my point was that some people have a tendancy towards theft,or lying,or whatever.the correlation is the mind.there are some people who are sexually excited by death.thats not in the genetics friend,thats in the mind.sexual attraction has nothing to do with love,its a mental mechanism that unfortunetly can be twisted by satan.there is always a choice .God bless you.
i was born with an alcoholic father and a drug addicted mother.everyone in my family,from my grandmother to my little brother ,has been arrested for dui or drug possession,including me.science says that because of my family's genetics,environment, and inherited traits,i have a higher chance of being an addict,and on the surface they are right.however,i still have a choice not to act upon those thoughts,even if my flesh begs to be satisfied.with Christ i can resist all temptation.He sets me free.
Jesus IS the center of my life and it is because of Him living in me that I was able to make this video.. and to live my life in the truth and not a lie. I can be totally honest about myself with no shame or condemnation. Jesus shed His blood for me and for you so we can have life eternal. I appreciate all your prayers and I am praying for each of you as well. God didn't create mistakes, so I know that I'm not a mistake and neither are you. Put your trust and faith in God, He won't let you down.
it is a sad thing to see how far we have gone away from GOD's word...my GOD would never create someone who had no choice but to be an "abomination"...all I can say is that, if you would seek, you will find the true JESUS for HE is the only one that can help you overcome any sin such as homosexuality...I am sorry that you are feeling such pain but please dont share lies about my SAVIOUR...HE created us "fearfully and wonderfully" in "HIS image" which means that we ALL can overcome ANY sin
To all who have "graced" this page with their regurgitated and standard condemnation, I challenge you to question with renewed scrutiny the passages allegedly labeling LOVING homosexual relationships immoral. If one Levitical prohibition still applies for today then ALL of them should. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed (ironically) for their extreme lack of hospitality and brutality. And the word homosexual wasn't coined until 1892, thus leaving some translations' use of it incorrect and biased.
well this is not about who thinks what, we are not our own moral autority & we are in no position to make our own laws & standards of living.You should go back to the Bible; find out from the Bible what it says about homosexuality if you want to be a Seventh Day Adventist., as the BIBLE is our standard of belief and way of living...If you want to enter the kingdom of God, then you cannot be gay. Im certain homosexuality is impossible to break free from on your own,but Jesus can help make miracle
Finally Floyd you seriously to need change your group name from Voga to VULGAR..
Virtue Over Lust, Gay Associates Reform
or
Violation Of Lucifers Gay Aided Revolution
haha i dont know but change the name cause using the word Adventist is VULGAR when used in your context. Turn to God, walk in his truth, diligently study his word, pray sincerely and hold firm to the faith that in God you can be transformed and made new. Ask yourself is promoting gay really part of the endtime gospel
video is sick, deceiful and anti Biblical going against God & the foundational teachings of his church as you well know Adventists do not approve of homosexuality.
Drop the name Adventist, form your own church as what your doing is making adventism seem like something its not so how is the church suppose to win souls for Christ if your hypocrisy is in contradiction of the church thats confusing to non or new believers something obviously satan has his hands in to put people off adventism
You all say God hates homosexual. But the question is this. How could he then created us...I am homosexual and I know am homosexual since i was born. No body has seen God...
God created the world he didnt create you directly you are the result of your parents descendants of our grand Eden ancestors where throughout time people evolutionised themselves on lust and attractions in the enviroment round about them.
No one can claim to be gay from birth for the simple fcact that a baby to the age of 6 perhaps cannot think sexually, like a teenager 12+ cannot fanthom the meaning of true love but only when they've matured in their young adult years 18+
God doesnt hate the person but hates the actions for by our works shall we be judged.
By you stating that and acknowledging his creation then its obvious that you know that God does indeed exist but maybe your hoping he doesnt just so that you can feel better in the fact you can be free to engage in the homosexual lifestyle.
God loves you my friend, return his love by trusting in him, obeying him & living for him rather than against him.. cast your burden upon Jesus he cares
Please dont mistake me Jesus LOVES the sinner but he HATES the sin. Ppl are in the closet about it because they know its not right or acceptable in his eyes. God winks at ignorance but condemns those who know. Floyd may God Bless you and i will keep you in my prayers. Tell HIS ppl, HIS TRUTH!!!
ion. In these end times we have to take God and his word seriously. In John 1:1 it says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." We have to tell God's ppl the truth not ecourage them to do wrong. We are here to help and guide them in God way not Satan's trap. And Floyd i believe thats what your doing. No one is perfect but we should shrive to be more and more like him daily. WWJD??? I dont think Jesus would encourage ppl to be homosexual do you?
I cant believe this is happening so many ppl are falling into Satan's traps. Floyd how can you encourage God's ppl to continue in there wicked and foolish ways. Its an abomination in God's sight. Floyd God will not only holds the sinner accoutable for their sin but also those who encourage and hold there tongues. God destroyed Sodom and Gamora for there wicked acts which included Homosexuality. Jesus is coming soon and will do the same. God warns us to keep watch and pray lest we fall in temptat
God loves the homosexual, porn addict and murderers. God loves the person but the the behavior, GOD CAN CREATE A NEW CHARACTER AND NEW PERSON WHEN YOU BELIEVE YOU CAN BE BORN AGAIN. Im an Adventist and i truly believe its time that we addicts have to let God be the Lord of our lives, the temple of our lives where he can worship and change and be born again and truly proclaim, "Just as we once were" :)
God didn't create homosexuality or porn or sex addict nor murderers
But God can change you from what you have become. I will be praying for you brother i am addicted to porn and i have struggled with this since 11 years old and now im 16 im still addicted to it. But i cannot justify that. One thing i know God can change me from my struggles and god can change you
As a fellow Adventist I'm very disappointed. Homosexuality is wrong. No matter how much it is popularized, advertised or promoted, its wrong and a learned behaviour. Instead if accepting the direction the devil has allowed you to go, you should be praying for God's help to release you from the strong holds that Satan has on you so you can break the oppression of sin. I'll keep you and others alike in my prayers!
This guy thinks that he can have gay butthole sex with other men and God is fine with that. Sigh...... What an evil deceived fag!
SirJCrusader 1 week ago
Hey faggot wether your a gay Adventist Catholic Baptist or whatever your going to Hell. Keep deceiving yourself faggot OR REPENT! No other choice.
SirJCrusader 1 week ago
i find it strange, when talking to gay people, that any other "condition" that you can name,be it a sexual issue or a moral issue or a behavior issue,is always treated as something that can either be controlled by the person or changed.all except being gay.that is off limits.God loves all of us,but the only way He can help us is if we are honest with ourselves.if we have in our hearts that something cant change,then we have already given up. is God strong enough to change what u say cant be? YES
charliebuck1000 1 month ago
Deviancy is an act or an action. Deviancy describes behavior, not an inborn or inherent condition. Homosexuality is a state of being. It is like being being born with blue eyes and blonde hair as opposed to having brown eyes and auburn hair.
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@furlvr1961 so your saying other people arent born with inherent conditions that cause them to act unnaturally,only gay people are. same with addicts,they arent born that way,only gay people can claim that.sounds like someone is being a justification nazi.if gay people can use that excuse to rationalize their "behavior" then others should also be entitled to.also deviancy simply means to deviate from what is normal and natural.and deep in your heart u know homosexuality isnt natural.
charliebuck1000 1 month ago
i have a serious question, i pray that it doesnt offend anyone,but it probably will.however im still gonna ask it because i honestly want to know.other than the fact that most homosexuals are consenting adults (though not all) what makes them different from someone who was "born" with a sexual deviancy? is it genetics that make a person any one of the philiacs? did God make them like that?
charliebuck1000 2 months ago
Great video Floyd! Keep up the good work!
In reading the comments below, I could almost palpate the molten, venomous, hatred spewed forth by those who shamefully would take the name, "Christian", and probably worse, Seventh-day Adventists; the very ones who should be demonstrating the most Christ-like love and compassion of any spiritual body. Of these, I can almost hear our Lord say, "Go away, I never knew you. You never were My friends". Matthew 7:21-23
(Illegitimi non carborundum)
furlvr1961 2 months ago
Whether you actually act out and allow yourself to love someone (again heterosexual or homosexual) is a choice, that is true. But living a live without love is a very unfulfilling life and one that I don't wish on anyone, and it was God who gave the first human a partner to share their life with.
floydpoenitz 2 months ago
There is no correlation between drugs/alcohol and a sexual orientation. Do you compare being heterosexual to being a substance abuse addict? Whether to use an abusive substance (alcohol, drugs, sugar, caffeine, food in general) is a choice, but having an attraction to who you love (whether heterosexual or homosexual) is not a choice. It is something that is coded into your DNA.
floydpoenitz 2 months ago
@floydpoenitz according to the very same "scientists" that you get your "DNA" information from, addiction is also coded in "DNA". my point was that some people have a tendancy towards theft,or lying,or whatever.the correlation is the mind.there are some people who are sexually excited by death.thats not in the genetics friend,thats in the mind.sexual attraction has nothing to do with love,its a mental mechanism that unfortunetly can be twisted by satan.there is always a choice .God bless you.
charliebuck1000 2 months ago
i was born with an alcoholic father and a drug addicted mother.everyone in my family,from my grandmother to my little brother ,has been arrested for dui or drug possession,including me.science says that because of my family's genetics,environment, and inherited traits,i have a higher chance of being an addict,and on the surface they are right.however,i still have a choice not to act upon those thoughts,even if my flesh begs to be satisfied.with Christ i can resist all temptation.He sets me free.
charliebuck1000 2 months ago
Jesus IS the center of my life and it is because of Him living in me that I was able to make this video.. and to live my life in the truth and not a lie. I can be totally honest about myself with no shame or condemnation. Jesus shed His blood for me and for you so we can have life eternal. I appreciate all your prayers and I am praying for each of you as well. God didn't create mistakes, so I know that I'm not a mistake and neither are you. Put your trust and faith in God, He won't let you down.
floydpoenitz 2 months ago
Brother you are sick & and you seriously need Jesus, the only thing i can do for you now is to pray that the vale be removed from you...
steadmanism 2 months ago
it is a sad thing to see how far we have gone away from GOD's word...my GOD would never create someone who had no choice but to be an "abomination"...all I can say is that, if you would seek, you will find the true JESUS for HE is the only one that can help you overcome any sin such as homosexuality...I am sorry that you are feeling such pain but please dont share lies about my SAVIOUR...HE created us "fearfully and wonderfully" in "HIS image" which means that we ALL can overcome ANY sin
jewelltruscott 4 months ago
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To all who have "graced" this page with their regurgitated and standard condemnation, I challenge you to question with renewed scrutiny the passages allegedly labeling LOVING homosexual relationships immoral. If one Levitical prohibition still applies for today then ALL of them should. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed (ironically) for their extreme lack of hospitality and brutality. And the word homosexual wasn't coined until 1892, thus leaving some translations' use of it incorrect and biased.
veggielover87 4 months ago
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veggielover87 4 months ago
well this is not about who thinks what, we are not our own moral autority & we are in no position to make our own laws & standards of living.You should go back to the Bible; find out from the Bible what it says about homosexuality if you want to be a Seventh Day Adventist., as the BIBLE is our standard of belief and way of living...If you want to enter the kingdom of God, then you cannot be gay. Im certain homosexuality is impossible to break free from on your own,but Jesus can help make miracle
kkastehelmi 6 months ago
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Finally Floyd you seriously to need change your group name from Voga to VULGAR..
Virtue Over Lust, Gay Associates Reform
or
Violation Of Lucifers Gay Aided Revolution
haha i dont know but change the name cause using the word Adventist is VULGAR when used in your context. Turn to God, walk in his truth, diligently study his word, pray sincerely and hold firm to the faith that in God you can be transformed and made new. Ask yourself is promoting gay really part of the endtime gospel
AdventistSoljah 7 months ago
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video is sick, deceiful and anti Biblical going against God & the foundational teachings of his church as you well know Adventists do not approve of homosexuality.
Drop the name Adventist, form your own church as what your doing is making adventism seem like something its not so how is the church suppose to win souls for Christ if your hypocrisy is in contradiction of the church thats confusing to non or new believers something obviously satan has his hands in to put people off adventism
AdventistSoljah 7 months ago
@AdventistSoljah so is homosexuality a choice or genetic..?
vincent4500 4 months ago
You all say God hates homosexual. But the question is this. How could he then created us...I am homosexual and I know am homosexual since i was born. No body has seen God...
andrew280478 7 months ago
@andrew280478 1/2
God created the world he didnt create you directly you are the result of your parents descendants of our grand Eden ancestors where throughout time people evolutionised themselves on lust and attractions in the enviroment round about them.
No one can claim to be gay from birth for the simple fcact that a baby to the age of 6 perhaps cannot think sexually, like a teenager 12+ cannot fanthom the meaning of true love but only when they've matured in their young adult years 18+
AdventistSoljah 7 months ago
@andrew280478 2/2
God doesnt hate the person but hates the actions for by our works shall we be judged.
By you stating that and acknowledging his creation then its obvious that you know that God does indeed exist but maybe your hoping he doesnt just so that you can feel better in the fact you can be free to engage in the homosexual lifestyle.
God loves you my friend, return his love by trusting in him, obeying him & living for him rather than against him.. cast your burden upon Jesus he cares
AdventistSoljah 7 months ago
Please dont mistake me Jesus LOVES the sinner but he HATES the sin. Ppl are in the closet about it because they know its not right or acceptable in his eyes. God winks at ignorance but condemns those who know. Floyd may God Bless you and i will keep you in my prayers. Tell HIS ppl, HIS TRUTH!!!
andrea1on1 8 months ago
ion. In these end times we have to take God and his word seriously. In John 1:1 it says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." We have to tell God's ppl the truth not ecourage them to do wrong. We are here to help and guide them in God way not Satan's trap. And Floyd i believe thats what your doing. No one is perfect but we should shrive to be more and more like him daily. WWJD??? I dont think Jesus would encourage ppl to be homosexual do you?
andrea1on1 8 months ago
I cant believe this is happening so many ppl are falling into Satan's traps. Floyd how can you encourage God's ppl to continue in there wicked and foolish ways. Its an abomination in God's sight. Floyd God will not only holds the sinner accoutable for their sin but also those who encourage and hold there tongues. God destroyed Sodom and Gamora for there wicked acts which included Homosexuality. Jesus is coming soon and will do the same. God warns us to keep watch and pray lest we fall in temptat
andrea1on1 8 months ago
God loves the homosexual, porn addict and murderers. God loves the person but the the behavior, GOD CAN CREATE A NEW CHARACTER AND NEW PERSON WHEN YOU BELIEVE YOU CAN BE BORN AGAIN. Im an Adventist and i truly believe its time that we addicts have to let God be the Lord of our lives, the temple of our lives where he can worship and change and be born again and truly proclaim, "Just as we once were" :)
cyclash10 8 months ago
God didn't create homosexuality or porn or sex addict nor murderers
But God can change you from what you have become. I will be praying for you brother i am addicted to porn and i have struggled with this since 11 years old and now im 16 im still addicted to it. But i cannot justify that. One thing i know God can change me from my struggles and god can change you
cyclash10 8 months ago
As a fellow Adventist I'm very disappointed. Homosexuality is wrong. No matter how much it is popularized, advertised or promoted, its wrong and a learned behaviour. Instead if accepting the direction the devil has allowed you to go, you should be praying for God's help to release you from the strong holds that Satan has on you so you can break the oppression of sin. I'll keep you and others alike in my prayers!
bajanboy246 9 months ago
@bajanboy246 Keep your prayers for yourself. You appear to be in greater need of them.
drktanatlman 9 months ago
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@bajanboy246 Your lack of knowledge on the subject of homosexuality is disappointing.
OzzieHon88 9 months ago