Such racism I can read here should stay out of the martial arts!
Don't forget japan is one of the younger asian cultures compared to the chinese, burmese, thai and many more (even korean).
I don't know what martial art of which country was copied by whom and it doesn't bother me. If it would, I (and all others) would have to go back to the roots and train kalaripayattu from india and similar styles.
The kor. are not the founders of MA nor the jap. are! So TRAIN HARD and STOP ARGUING!
@FireWarlock Do all the German cultures come from ancient Rome or Greek civilization? Isn't it important to understand the difference between French and England culture?
@japantruthify01 You may be right to SOME extend, but you're being fanatical. Unless you only want to attract lunatics to your cause (whatever it may be), then you shouldn't behave like one.
They disguise other country’s distinctive cultures as they were originated in Korea, make up a video in which a beautiful plastic girl appears, put it on YouTube, and make a good comment pretending to be an American.
Thank you for a good video to prove Koreans are liars and frauds. It should be kept in museums all over the world as a historical evidence for the Korean fabricating culture.
So one might say Kendo and Gumdo has the same origins kind of. And the fact that no one had, previous to 20th century, gathered the same style of teachings of the ways to attack and defend oneself under a school or anything doesn't mean that Koreans didn't have anything on their own and have copied everything from others. But I might be mistaken and if I am never mind me then :D
If I'm not mistaken it's not the shape of the sword that makes katana unique and Japanese rather than it's the method of production, the way to incorporate steel that's hard and sharp on the edge while maintaining the flexability on the back. The slightly curvy single-edge style of swords in looks isn't really anything unique to Japanese. On the matter of who came up with what and when weren't much of Japan migrated by Koreans before any major original culture had been established?
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South Korea begins to copy the Japanese martial arts from the late 20th century. Individual martial arts was not developed in the Joseon Dynasty(Korea). Taekwondo, Haidong Gumdo, Kumdo, Hapkido, Yudo is nothing to the history of Korea.
Taekwondo copied the Shotokan Karate. Haidong Gumdo and Kumdo copied Kenjutsu and Kendo. Hapkido copied the Daitoryu Jujutsu and Aikido. Yudo copied Judo. Hwa Rang Do is not historical martial arts. Hwa Rang is dancer in the Silla and Kogryo Dynasty.
The imitation that the Korea martial arts imitated a Japanese samurai, the martial arts.
The samurai is not in the Korean Peninsula in history.
The postwar original martial arts that imitated appearance and the form of the Japanese style martial arts.
The Korean fencing that there is not the samurai using the Japanese sword of the music sword single edge in the Korean Peninsula is the ceremony of straight sword double-edged dance.
@bergamot5599 Please watch this video watch?v=ZPNtVRdQyk4&feature=youtu.be Then talk about Plunering of cultures. GIve back Korean's plundered cultural properties before you go crying about some intangeable thing like Martial Arts. Japan actually has THOUSANDS of physical cultural properties of Korea looted and stolen and brought to Japan.
@taihuu25go Learn Engligh or write in Japanese ok- you don't make any sense. Also, are you telling me Japanese martial arts never been in movies? Why can't you Neo Nazi Japanese Nationalists leave HDGD alone and mind your own business? You would think with everything going on in Japan you guys would have better things to do.
Neo Nazi Japanese Nationalist are the only ones complaining about who made the curved blade. Who the hell invented the automobile and curry and blue jeans then. Stop all the FUCKING hating, you guys sound like little bitches. Japan did not invent the curved blade you morons. Stop arguing for fuck sakes.
South Korea begins to copy the Japanese martial arts from the late 20th century. Individual martial arts was not developed in the Joseon Dynasty(Korea). Taekwondo, Haidong Gumdo, Kumdo, Hapkido, Yudo is nothing to the history of Korea.
Taekwondo copied the Shotokan Karate. Haidong Gumdo and Kumdo copied Kendo. Hapkido copied the Daitoryu Jujutsu and Aikido. Yudo copied Judo. Hwa Rang Do is not historical martial arts. Hwa Rang is dancer in the Silla and Kogryo Dynasty.
Kendo 剣道 (Way of Sword) is a “Japanese” traditional martial art, which was established, developed, cherished,and handed down by Japanese Samurai warriors and hence is unique only to Japan. “GUMDO” is merely a Korean translation of the Japanese word, “Kendo.” It was brought by Japanese to Korea during the annexation period
Why so many of you Japanese racists give such a bad name to all Japanese by doing things like this. Do you believe you invented walking too? Stupid to think China, Korea, & Japan did not exchange martial knowledge as well as other knowledge with each other due to their proximity and wars fought between each other. Why can't you just respect good skill and the hard work that goes into achieving that skill?
i must say Gumdo is just copied the surface of Japanese Kendo only without the reason(理)and Samurai spirits.this is not Budo(武道) anymore,Korean changed worst as Korean twiddle leaping dance.
stop to exhibit fake Korean Budo in the Japan Expo in Paris!!!!
watch?v=PVMwXztivL0
watch?v=7Hcq3kb792g (French)
watch?v=C7BoI4gWXN4
watch?v=ImWL-N582ZU
pls think and understand deeply the reason (理) and natural rule(自然法則).
Korean Gumdo is very dangerous art,since they let children hold wooden swords
or imitation Katana easily.In Japan we can't use its easily till master give the pardon.why Kendo use bamboo sword?since even just wooden or imitation sword can kill.if the children kill other people slily,could you accept the blame?
Korean Gumdo show the brassy performances and get many student and money teaching in hazard without any definite knowledge.
@sakura0jp0aikidodesu I wouldn't say that for all. The one Hiadong Gumdo instructor I know only offers the classes to those that have more then a few years in his TKD classes. I think the skill and control needed for either sword skill is very impressive.... but I'm just a gaijin.
“Corea has no Samurai. She lacks what Japan has always had - a cultured body of men, superbly trained in both mind and body, the soldier and scholar in one, who held to a high ideal of loyalty, patriotism, and sacrifice for country. “
Hi,i am learning Aikido and Iaido a little of bit.
why Japanese are confused to Korean Gumdo ....pls image that if Japanese swing around rapier that French fencing sword like cheerleading with dressing English kelt,and then the playing would be popular and spread in many country....
suddenly the Japanese make public like that "Japacing is Japanese traditional martial art,and Kelt is Japanese wear originally!!"or "even if Japacing art is similar to French fencing,it is different art originally since Japanese fencing doesn't wear any protect."
Korean fabricate like that.i am sorry for my poor English.
I read in a book that Haidong Gum Do is based on Gicheon,
a martial art which is quite similar to Tai Ji Quan, a chinese martial art.
Just because they use swords which look like katana doesnt mean they copied the art from Japanese Iado or Kenjutsu. Haidong Gum Do is developed from other styles.
By the way ALL martial arts are in a development, so its good to know where the roots were, but for practising it becomes unimportant.
@RYO061699 r u freakin kidding me korean's fought with sword's before japan was even born in which korean history is the same date with the chinese and japan was a little colony
Question for u all @:41 of the vid does he approach the candles with a closed fist or is he carrying/fanning wind in order to extinguish the candles??? damned if i do damned if i don't.......the power of chi is crazy indeed
Korean has been trying to steal Chinese and Japanese traditional culture and make FAKE TRADITIONAL CULTURE in this era. and They try to be its origin.
I want all foreigners to know this crisis.
Korean think Bushido , Katana , Samurai and so many Japanese tradional culture and chinese culture is korean origin.
THERE IS NO HISTORICAL PROOF!!!
Their mimic of Kendo will come to Japan expo in this year.
@Kleiber2004 You are such a fag and a joke to ur nation. Grow the fuck up man and enjoy the art for what it is. Stop trying to spread ur hate and ignorance to the public, No one really cares. It's like winning the gold medal at the special Olympics you retard.....................
@Kleiber2004 Where is the evidence that it is a copy from China or Japan Kleiber2004? can you really absolutely proof that the Koreans just copies and do not contribute to the development of the art at all? Unless you are really sure, I suggest you do not make such outrageous claims. One little hint.....Wikipedia is not the source of all truth, just in case you have not noticed.
@centraltheorem2076, Oh by the way, Korea is a peace loving country and respect nature! For Japan, well what can you say about after watching these videos:
"The raping of Nanking Massacre Torture" and
"Unit 731 Japanese Torture & Human Medical Experiments 部隊の真実" videos.
I couldn't watch through these vidoes with a full stomach!!! Fucking sick bastards!
@centraltheorem2076, Where the fuck have you been all these years. What goes around comes around! If your proud ancestors won't own up to the truth of your disgusting behaviors in the past, then you need to look at these videos. As I speak, your feeble-minded ancestors are burning in eternal hell fire forever, you nonsensical pussy bastard! So, go right ahead you dipshit, glorify your repugnant fucking ancestors for all I care. You will also be forever brainwashed, whale slaughtering cunt.
@centraltheorem2076, including so many neighboring countries wants revenge or retrobution for raping, torturing, slaughtering, persecution against humanity. Like I said before, consider you pathethic little Ainu ancestors island lucky by countless times by the Mongols and Chinese invasion. You japs should be thankful for the harsh weather by the ocean and unforgiving typoons.
@centraltheorem2076, I could careless about what your little midget ass Ainu island monkeys think about Koreans and don't you bring up Chinese people. You shameless war criminals will burn in hell for all your evil deeds and you have the adacity to bring up your disgusting behaviors of your ancestors. "I will spit and shit on your fucking ancestors grave, you fucking piece of shit!" So many nations look down on your jap history by showing pity of your shameless past. Chinese people and Koreans
@centraltheorem2076, tell that to your pathethic lying ancestors who slaughtered and burned innocent people in WWII. You're simply brainwashed. You hypocrite jap bastard and stop your bullshit. I think your parents taught you to lie and cheat about your shameless culture. Look up "The raping of Nanking Massacre Torture" and if you still sucking on your dead emperors cock, then check out the video of "Unit 731 Japanese Torture & Human Medical Experiments 部隊の真実" Fuck you, you jap bitch!
@centraltheorem, hey you dipshit! I really don't think your man enough realize about your dirty shameless past. If your so bent on recorrecting the originality about Martial Art then you must also comment on Brizilian Jujitsu. You fag! Fucking pussy!!! I will castrate what's left of your brave little fingers, including your shameless nuts.
@mrpahjun Why? Japanese people will not say nothing to Brazilians because they admit Brazilian jujitsu has been originated from judo and they never tell untruth that Brazilian jujitsu has been originated from Brazil. But Koreans are telling untruth that kendo and katana were derived from Korea. Japanese people are angry at Koreans who are telling untruth. Koreans are never respected by Japanese and Chinese people as long as they are faking Japanese and Chinese cultures.
@centraltheorem2076, tell that to your pathethic lying ancestors who slaughtered and burned innocent people in WWII. You're simply brainwashed. You hypocrite jap bastard and stop your bullshit. I think your parents taught you to lie and cheat about your shameless culture. Look up "The raping of Nanking Massacre Torture" and if you still sucking on your dead emperors cock, then check out the video of "Unit 731 Japanese Torture & Human Medical Experiments 部隊の真実" Fuck you, you jap bitch!
@mrpahjun Please consider why Koreans have not been respected by Japanese people. You disgrace Korea and Koreans by your behavior. The fact that Koreans label "Korean" on kendo and katana is never changed if you yell out. Didn't you learn shamefulness from your kumdo teachers? Kendo teachers must teach it.
Why does it matter whether Haidong Gumdo is a traditional art, or whether Korea traditionally used a curved two-handed blade or not? If you like the art, enjoy this video and train hard. If you don't, show some respect and discipline to the way of the martial arts and fellow martial artists and go watch a kendo video.
@XoNMan1 Please don't misunderstand. Japanese are angry at Haidong people who label "Korean" on kendo and samurai swords. Japanese would say nothing if Koreans valued the long efforts by Japanese people. Koreans often claims origins of Japanese martial arts such as kendo (as kumdo), judo (as yudo), aikido (as hapkido), and so on. Why do Koreans imitate Japanese cultures inspite that they hate Japan? It's very curious. The people who do not respect the spirits of martial arts are haidong people.
@centraltheorem2076 It is not fair to hate on an entire style and everyone in it because some misinformed people on youtube make outrageous claims. Surely though you can understand Korea's resentment of Japan given the history. Frankly I'm not interested in any of that, but I believe every martial artist should show respect for their fellow practitioners training and hard work, and not disrespect them because of their chosen style.
@XoNMan1 I don't hate Koreans but I just feel sorry when watching Koreans tell untruth about the origin of their martial arts. The technique was developed by our ancestors. But Koreans are telling untruth that the technique was originated from Korea with wearing hakama and using samurai swords. In martial arts, to respect your opponents and the accomplishments by the forerunners are important. So I said they (not all but Haidong teachers) did not respect the spirits of martial arts.
@centraltheorem2076 ...and there would have been a time when China or Korea would have said shame shame on the Japanese for using their stuff....lol this is nothing more then a modern evolution of martial arts..its happened countless times. The one sided blade came from KOREA via CHINA and then the curve was added in japan. As to why Hakama...Well Korea WAS a colony (against their will) of Japan as you very well know. Any and ALL Korean culture was forbidden during this time.
@XoNMan1 Didn't you learn to look up to the works by your ancestors in the school? We Japanese people were educated that we must respect our cultures handed down by our ancestors. In addition, we were educated not to tell untruth to people. To lie was the worst in the Japanese society. If it is joyful, don't you correct a mistake?
Haidong is not a hitorical existence. It is a copy of Japanese art of sword. There is no historical document recording Korean art of sword, because Korean history is not military but literary. Please be proud of Korean original and beautiful culture. You should not easily imitate neighbor's culture. Japanese people have developed the art of sword for a long time. You should not give a reason to Japanese people to ridicule you. NOW, you should become people which Japanese and Chinese can respect.
They are using Korean swords. Given Koreas location it was/is a natural bridge between China and Japan. Sword forging spread from China to Korea to Japan (around 6-700AD). You will find many similarities between Korean and Japanese designs due to the fact that Japan accupied Korea several times. Check asian art history books and you will find that many ancient Japanese craftsmen were actually abducted Koreans. Hope this clarified things a bit.
@Asiaroeschti Japanese swords have been developed in Japanese islands. Sword mining technique in Japan is very different from Korean one. You don't know? Almost all Korean swords created in modern era is copy swords strongly influenced by samurai swords. Korean people should reproduce original shape of Korean swords. You should not mimic Japanese culture. Please be proud of your own country's culture. You are making your ancestors feel sad under the ground.
Check the sword designs of the Joseon Dynasty and you will notice the similiarity with the current designs. As a difference the current Haidong Gumdo swords are a bit bulkier due to the fact that the practicioners focus on cutting performances. Well, opinions are like buttholes: Everbody has one. So I will stick to my opinion, feels free to stick to yours. Feel free to drop by in Switzerland if you want to continue anyway.
@Asiaroeschti Traditional Korean swords don't look like Japanese swords. But the swords they have are very similar to Japanese swords. Probably they were made by copying samurai swords. Due to a part of Korean like the uploader of this video, all Koreans are fooled by Japanese. In addition, Haidong is not a historical existence. It was started recently. A lot of Asian people know that. Europeans and Americans who are not familiar with Asian culture are deceived.
Im happy because Im a white belt and can understand the meaning of haidong gumdo better than a lot of people here. I dont know who you are guys but, why arguing about something like this? Just let it be.
Korean copying Japan? Who cares? It's like music: Rock & roll copying blues?! It's just ART.
go and learn to cut proper thick bamboo ! have fun with it and dont struggle who invented it ! cut 3 papers in a row ! learn putting out candles. there you will find ganja, you will find peace !
haidong gumdo..was created on a movie scene by a producteur in 1982..they went court..they claiming they are the original..but the korean didnt have a proof.so they lost in court!!
(2) I have been a Kenjutsu practioner for 15 years now and I still see the ancient Silla influences in Gumdo style especially with the 2 swords method.....And by the way the Silla kicked the shit out of the Japanese in 663 using this style of fighting..READ YOUR HISTORY BEFORE YOU COMMENT HOLLYWOOD EXPERTS!!!!
@Highlandersforever my Kwonjanim in TKD said after Japan outlawed many Korean martial arts they introduced Japanese martial arts such as kendo to schools. Its popularity in Korea spread fast as part of Koreas first national physical education system. Up until end of the occupation. kumdo developed in parallel with kendo. So it had its roots in Japan. They just took the idea that was shown to them by the Japanese and made it into there own thing. So you may be a little off sir.
really? wow... that's kinda hard to believe... sorry been practicing kendo in a korean dojo... but what i dont understand is how do they really help in a real fight? i dont understand.
(1)Gumdo is not japanese it is an ancient form of martial style from the Silla warriors of the Silla kingdom now modern day korea (56 B.C - 935 A.D) the modern similarities are more in the fact that the Gumdo practitioner wears Japanese Hakama during practice WHY I HAVE NO FUCKIN IDEA? but to say it is from Japanese style is ignorant it has many similaryties I agree but most asian martial styles are very similar,
Gumdo and Kendo are like the same thing, but Gumdo is slightly different because it is Korean taught. It doesn't really matter if anyone's copying because all martial arts originated in India anyway.
Please donot be fooled with these flashy moves which influcenced by Japanese samurai movies. Traditional sword fight skill from Japan, Kendo, is all about strict and skill. No dance, NO music, NO bull shits like this. It is serious thing.
And what they doing here is use Japanese katana and cloth that caught world recognition and show it as if it all belong to Korea. It is just so funny moves and without back ground of samurai history. Gumdo only started 1970s!
I know ninja origin belongs to Japan. Haha is the word ninja even Korean? NO. Koreans know that - most do, anyway. You're generalizing the whole freaking nation of one or few people.
NOBODY CLAIMED THAT IT ALL BELONGED TO KOREA. What makes you think that way? It's the same as some ignorant Japanese people claiming Tae Kwon Do as being Japanese - you shouldn't generalize because of one person's ignorance, regardless of the nationality.
There are so many video posts by him. His name is Greg Park. He is Korean American who sing Ninja origin belong to Korea. And also please check Gumdo website, they are saying Japanese kendo was originally from Korean Gumdo.
this is a demonstration so there need to be some flashy moves because of the show and for the people who are watching. Haidong Gumdo is more than those flashy moves.. just like korean tae kwon do. so don´t get mad at people who like that demonstration
These samurai-move- like flashy demo make both Kendo and Gumdo CHEAP!!! I do not know if it OK for Gumdo, but for Kendo, I do not think that's acceptable. Kendo is serious thing and it is not a show. Kendo isn't such cheap thing. You will know if you play it once and see how hart to play it. This thing is for kids play. Imagin if someone play with western swords and move like a worrier from Load of the Ring. Do you take it seriously?
first i ignore the gramma but, why should i PLAY kendo? and the difference between kendo and gumdo in itsself is the speed. kendo has something like one strike and finish. Gumdo is way faster and like berserk. so this video doesn´t show the truth of haidong gumdo. just like every demonstration. and demonstrations are just for publicity and for getting new members. hope u don´t forget about that ;)
Second, you are wrong with Kendo and Gumdo speed. How do you know without playing Kendo before? Gumdo is Korean interpretation of Kendo. And this is wrong way of publicity for getting new players, because Kendo (origin of Gumdo) isn't a show. It is "DO!" if you know what I meant with DO (道）. It is like showing samurai movie actions to invite players...and these players are not serious.
Also, they should stop using and wearing Japanese Kendo equipment if Gumdo is different from Kendo. It will create confusion for those who are interested in real Japanese Kendo. What more, Korean claim Gumdo is the original of Japanese Kendo. What a joke.
Try it with a sword. The difficulty is greater than you imagine. But it is funny to think cutting paper requires skill of any kind. There is a lesson in there for us: never to judge that what we do not yet understand. This is true of all things.
I rarely show anyone any of the ability I possess, as knowledge, once imparted, cannot be reclaimed. And should I meet with an adversary, I should hope them to fall before they realize their error, or my perceived skill.
PEOPLE THIS IS HAIDONG GUMDO. Stop uttering nonsense please. Ignorance in this world saddens me nowadays. Haidong Gumdo is indeed Korean, and Koreans are not copying anything! Jeezus. Being a martial artist myself, this is so sad to see. 해동검도 <-- Korean. For the last time! Nobody is copying anybody. People who claim that Koreans are copying Japanese and crap are usually the people who know nothing about martial arts, anyway. Probably not even white belt, ha.
You are wrong. Study first and then talk. If you are matial artist (I do not know what hell martial artist you are in) better know original and copy. Copy is copy. it is too obvious in front of our eyes! Just look at their cloth and swords! they do not belong to Korean traditional martial art. And its move should be inspired by Samurai movies. Not from actual samurai combats which lately become sports kendo...after all refinements in its movements.
Whoa, calm down. I don't see why people are freaking out and bitching on this page. I agree with you - the clothes and swords are somewhat influenced by Japan. But would you not say the samething about every other martial art? The way they use belts, uniforms, etc. etc.? Look at Kung Fu. Tae Kwon Do. Karate.
See my point? It'd be nice to know which martial art you're in, too. I'm guessing something Japanese, with the way you're hot headly defending the Japanese side.
OK dude. let me take a deep breath...huuuuu.....calm downed.
Now, please get my point. They are claiming the origin. Korean said this is came from Korea while they using Katana and Japanese cloth. If they keep saying to these who have not been to exposed to Kendo, they easily believe fake story. If you look at Chosen Ninja posts in YT...then you find Korean guy claiming Ninja origin in Korea....it happens all traditional cultures of ours. SOO many Japanese are now upset.
Haidong Gumdo is Korean. I agree. but you have to admit they use Japanese Katana and cloth(small thing tho). If you are martial artist, Kata and tradition are very important to traditional martial arts. You can swing your fist, but without kata, it will not be counted as effectivel...as such, they should use Korean things not Japanese. That's why I call it copied Japanese Kendo. And what are those actings? And Japanese Taiko as background music?
They can at least do not wear Japanese cloth and stop using Japanese Katanas...if they claim it as their original. Meantime, we all know this thing was created in 1980s.
True traditioanl Korean swords were streight one. Much like Chinese one. And they did not hold katana like Japanese. Also Korean hold their sword grip on backword, not like Japanese who hold Katana grip on front. And they wear totally differenct cloth. In this vid, they wear Japanese cloth for some reason.
Thank you for making things clear to me. What you have said is true, now that you point that out. That would make this video a circus performance then would it not? I appreciate the lesson.
Actually Korea have one of the best Kendo practictioners in the world. I wonder how they feel about Gumdo's flashy moves. This is more show than real martial art....which maybe more appealing to those who have not been exposed Asian swords, and easily start to think these are Japanese samurai kendo...totally fooled. That's not good way..and they aren't rooted real samurai one to one combat traditions. Not even close to real Kendo.
If they apply these stupid flashy move to real kendo matches, they will be defeated in a miniutes because real kendo guys can read their flashy swings easily. Real kendo win/lose is matter of sub 1 sec, sometimes faster than 0.5 sec...there are no room for dancing swing like that...if that's their kata.
Koreans may not be copying Japanese swordfighting styles, but Korean media execs have no problem copying Japanese TV programs.
Not to mention Korea does its own share of accusing Japan of certain other things. So please, enough with the "Japanese are bad" mantra. I've heard it for the last 13 years living in Korea. It's tiresome.
Formats of TV programs are similar in all countries because we are all copying the pioneer of TV programs, the American TV.
You should accuse all countries for copying the formats of VARIETY SHOWS, TALK SHOWS, MUSIC SHOWS, GAMES SHOWS, AWARD CEREMONIES, SIT-COMS, TALENT SHOWS, NEWS PROGRAMS, NEWS MAGAZINES, from the American TV.
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gennmai12 4 days ago
なんで日本の袴を着て日本刀振り回しながら、中国武道みたいな動きしてんだ？
skymadder 1 month ago
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It is monkey business to insist on the Korea samurai and martial arts without a Korean having existed.
It is a fact that Korea was a dependency of Chinese 明、清 for a long time(500year) in 李氏朝鮮 Korea.
There are not society background and the base which there is a samurai.
wolfpack13000 3 months ago
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The Korean martial arts and fencing are monkey business.
Because there is not the culture that there was a samurai in the Korean history.
The Korean uses a castle of Japan and the sculpture including the Asura by an image strategy in imitation of the style of the Japanese samurai in HP.
I understand it if I examine it, but, in the Korean Peninsula, culture and the castle of the samurai do not have the trace.
wolfpack13000 3 months ago
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emuseum.go.kr/relic.do?action=view_d&mcwebmno=95046 Here is picture of curved sword from Korea from Won Sam Guk era 원삼국(原三國)
(300-57BC) It is nearly 1,000 years older than the 童子切安綱 Dōjigiri Yasutsuna from 9th century Japan.
HDGDisnotfromkendo 4 months ago
(Kendo + Jackie Chan + Star Wars + Dragon Ball) ÷ 100 + α = Gumdo
This seems to be made for a show, not an art..
Gu- の名称さえ、手が書くのを嫌がりましたが（汗）、上記のように思えて、シャレ込みで書いています。あっていますか？
teas781 4 months ago
私が幼稚園だった頃にしたお遊戯の方が上手かった
こんなかっこつけしいのよりも
kanzyukubanana 4 months ago
日本の袴と刀と殺陣、中国の剣舞。欲張って色んなもの詰め込んだら訳わかんなくなっちゃったんだろうねｗ
Daviysoh 4 months ago
日本の文化は何でもパクろうとするのなｗｗ
国をあげて反日活動してるくせに
hosozoku 4 months ago
日本刀をおもちゃにして遊ぶな！ばかども！
日本に憧れているのなら、キチンとした剣道を学びなさい。
nadare4258 4 months ago
song of 1:19 ? once performed it with taekwon do but forgot its name....
ElysianFlame 5 months ago
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ElysianFlame 5 months ago
fruit ninja xD
IBLUEB 5 months ago
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Please watch
watch?v=uQ5zOKB3yzw
enushisama 6 months ago
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朝鮮王朝實録：The Annals of the choson Dynasty (The True Record of the Korean Dynasty)…
【June 11, 1480】矧惟國人, 不慣槍劍, 專業弓矢, 爲禦敵之備
The people were not accustomed to use of sword or spear, defended from enemies only by archery...
【October 13, 1592】上敎政院曰“我國絶無劒手”
The king said “There was no swordman in our country at all”...
【July 11, 1594】我國自古劍術不傳
There has not been descendent any swordplay from ancient time in our country...
enushisama 6 months ago
Such racism I can read here should stay out of the martial arts!
Don't forget japan is one of the younger asian cultures compared to the chinese, burmese, thai and many more (even korean).
I don't know what martial art of which country was copied by whom and it doesn't bother me. If it would, I (and all others) would have to go back to the roots and train kalaripayattu from india and similar styles.
The kor. are not the founders of MA nor the jap. are! So TRAIN HARD and STOP ARGUING!
FireWarlock 6 months ago
@FireWarlock Do all the German cultures come from ancient Rome or Greek civilization? Isn't it important to understand the difference between French and England culture?
expedition60 6 months ago
Koreans are spreading fabricated stories like Kendo originated from Korea everywhere in the world.... Japan Expo in Paris is an example.
Silverstein1883 6 months ago
@japantruthify01 You may be right to SOME extend, but you're being fanatical. Unless you only want to attract lunatics to your cause (whatever it may be), then you shouldn't behave like one.
Kordox2 6 months ago
@japantruthify01 typical korean
expedition60 6 months ago
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武藝圖譜通志Muye Dobo Tongji (1790) : Comprehensive Illustrated Manual of Martial Arts in Korea .
[It is an official document at a Korean Dynasty, written by The Korean King order in the 18th century]
國練兵之制三軍練于郊，衛士練于禁苑，其禁苑練兵盛自 光廟朝，然止弓矢一技而已如槍劍法技，既未之聞焉，
Archery was the only martial art that had been practiced by Korean soldiers. They have no skills of sword or spear fighting (17th).
購得戚繼光紀效新書遣訓局郎韓嶠遍質東來將士
Therefore, Koreans began learning sword skills and others from Chinese.
enushisama 6 months ago
This is the method of KOREAN NATIONALISM.
They disguise other country’s distinctive cultures as they were originated in Korea, make up a video in which a beautiful plastic girl appears, put it on YouTube, and make a good comment pretending to be an American.
expedition60 6 months ago
CAUTION!!
Gumdo is a Korean of KENDO reading.
And the KENDO historically has the origin in Japan.
When the KENDO is a Korea origin, they are fabricating it !!
They also are fabricating a story to them own advantage that all Japanese culture
are Korean origins !!
Everybody of intelligent foreigner !
PLEASE DO NOT CHEAT !!
TheMatrix1221 7 months ago
Why do you accuse the Korea martial arts of the imitation?
If an imitation copies brands such as Vuitton or Armani, and an imitation forges it with a genuine article, and a monkey business, can you be angry?
All of you wanting to be the world martial arts do not be deceived.
Only Japan has the genuine samurai and martial arts.
wolfpack13000 7 months ago
The Korean forges Korea samurai and why does talk?
As a reason, the Korean history had only the miserable, poor history as China and the dependency and colony of Japan.
I longed racial glory and insisted on the origin of the Japanese samurai out of vanity and found honor and a position.
I understand that there was not a samurai in Korea if I examine the Korean history.
wolfpack13000 7 months ago
It is monkey business to insist on the Korea samurai and martial arts without a Korean having existed.
It is a fact that Korea was a dependency of Chinese 明、清 for a long time in 李氏朝鮮 Korea.
There are not society background and the base which there is a samurai.
wolfpack13000 7 months ago
There is not the Korean fact that the samurai existed in history.
There is neither the society scenery created historically nor the inevitability.
Though there is not the base which existed, the person forging Korea samurai spreads a lie.
I imitate a Japanese samurai and divert castles of Japan to their HP and develop the false martial arts that I forged for an image of Japan.
wolfpack13000 7 months ago
Too bad.
Sword, wielding one-handed use in a manner not.
Kendo was introduced from Japan, but, why I degrade.
Bounce or jump on a wooden sword, but with not action movies.
Additional copies are ninjas and samurai sushi sadou · manga · judo.
From Japanese and overseas fake to everyone please be careful.
This country, so China was a vassal state, history has oppressed, there is no culture of their country.
In recent years Japan has been copied to a national culture.
kooldalt 7 months ago
Thank you for a good video to prove Koreans are liars and frauds. It should be kept in museums all over the world as a historical evidence for the Korean fabricating culture.
expedition60 7 months ago
why so many dislikes???
MrPIROCAS 7 months ago
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I want you to look well.
Difference between clothes and equipment for sword of a Japanese samurai and the Korean military officer.
Youtube
Can you distinguish Japan and Korea Part1 日本と韓国の違い Part1
Korea had only the history of the dependency including China and Japan.
I say and forge the origin of the culture because of the history that I want to hide attracted by Japan and China.
yuukoku11 7 months ago
The reason that Japanese people think Gumdo is a problem is that Korean people's assertions about the history of Gumdo are thoroughly deceptive.
Please google the words below;
"Why does "kumdo" tell a lie ?"
There are explanations about this problem both in English and Japanese.
lumine66 7 months ago
Poor Corea
netuyo 7 months ago
The martial arts in Korea, the fencing are only a joke, funny stories.
Korean expresses a Japanese samurai, the image of the samurai by original interpretation.
Will there be a solution in the meaning that a Japanese samurai brushed a hakama on?
日本人より。
yuukoku11 7 months ago
haha even I can screw the shit out of them by a Japanese sword.
2channIist 7 months ago
if you want know about Gumdo more,you can watch
watch?v=hG6tqGGZW8Y
or
watch?v=iFBo-Zs_Dp8
Sakra137 7 months ago
So one might say Kendo and Gumdo has the same origins kind of. And the fact that no one had, previous to 20th century, gathered the same style of teachings of the ways to attack and defend oneself under a school or anything doesn't mean that Koreans didn't have anything on their own and have copied everything from others. But I might be mistaken and if I am never mind me then :D
MrEshah 7 months ago
If I'm not mistaken it's not the shape of the sword that makes katana unique and Japanese rather than it's the method of production, the way to incorporate steel that's hard and sharp on the edge while maintaining the flexability on the back. The slightly curvy single-edge style of swords in looks isn't really anything unique to Japanese. On the matter of who came up with what and when weren't much of Japan migrated by Koreans before any major original culture had been established?
MrEshah 7 months ago
韓国の平昌市は２０１８年冬季オリンピックの開催地に立候補していて、あす開催地が決定する予定です。
国家ぐるみでスポーツの起源を捏造をしている国にオリンピックを開催する資格はありません。スポーツに対する冒涜です。
もし開催地が韓国にきまったら、ＩＯＣ（国際オリンピック委員会）にこの問題を持ち出して抗議しようと思います。
Peongchang(Korean city) has applied 2018 winter Olympics.
Does Korea have a quarification for holding Olympics?
These Koreans are fabricating the origin of kendo, and despising sports.
expedition60 7 months ago
Kendo is a strong Weak Kumudo
sakusakusamurai 7 months ago
wolfpack13000 7 months ago
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These of Gumdo, Komdo are the plagiarism of Japanese Kendo.
Gumdo or Komdo is the one of derivation of Kendo.
ALL of Gumdo, Komdo... is Kendo.
Lier, the Korean.
KageRyuBTRON 8 months ago
韓国人は、人種差別主義者である。
韓国人は、障害者差別主義者である。
韓国人は、第二次世界大戦次日本人だったにも関わらず、日本を悪者にして憎んでいる卑怯者である。
韓国人は、泥棒である。
韓国人は、日本のあらゆる優れた文化を盗んで、韓国発祥と嘘をつく。
KageRyuBTRON 8 months ago 3
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KageRyuBTRON 8 months ago
South Korea begins to copy the Japanese martial arts from the late 20th century. Individual martial arts was not developed in the Joseon Dynasty(Korea). Taekwondo, Haidong Gumdo, Kumdo, Hapkido, Yudo is nothing to the history of Korea.
Taekwondo copied the Shotokan Karate. Haidong Gumdo and Kumdo copied Kenjutsu and Kendo. Hapkido copied the Daitoryu Jujutsu and Aikido. Yudo copied Judo. Hwa Rang Do is not historical martial arts. Hwa Rang is dancer in the Silla and Kogryo Dynasty.
unkeihokusai 8 months ago 5
@unkeihokusai Who the fuck is interested in history, if the sport is a nice one?
gentleknight81 3 weeks ago
The imitation that the Korea martial arts imitated a Japanese samurai, the martial arts.
The samurai is not in the Korean Peninsula in history.
The postwar original martial arts that imitated appearance and the form of the Japanese style martial arts.
The Korean fencing that there is not the samurai using the Japanese sword of the music sword single edge in the Korean Peninsula is the ceremony of straight sword double-edged dance.
wolfpack13000 8 months ago
korean funny sideshow
sakura0jp0aikidodesu 8 months ago
Foolish South Korean. Thief South Korean. Deceitful Korea.
arata9 8 months ago
Korea had been a dependency of China for 1000 years long. Slave nation did not any
skill of sword. Kum-do is also Japanese Kendo's fake.
baron706 8 months ago
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How korean plundered japanese cultures.
Please watch this video:
watch?v=iFBo-Zs_Dp8
watch?v=ImWL-N582ZU
hori3dazo 8 months ago
A Korean insists on the origin of the Japanese samurai mimicking the martial arts recently.
It is forgery of the origin with an imitation.
There is not at all the social system and background that a samurai and a samurai group are formed in history in the Korea dynasty, and develop.
Both the existing document and the documents have nothing.
A samurai cannot exist in Korea.
wolfpack13000 8 months ago
@bergamot5599 Please watch this video watch?v=ZPNtVRdQyk4&feature=youtu.be Then talk about Plunering of cultures. GIve back Korean's plundered cultural properties before you go crying about some intangeable thing like Martial Arts. Japan actually has THOUSANDS of physical cultural properties of Korea looted and stolen and brought to Japan.
HDGDisnotfromkendo 8 months ago in playlist Haidong Gumdo Demos
Please watch this video!
Fake Samurai & Kendo in Japan Expo 2011: On Korea's Plunder of Japanese Cultures
watch?v=iFBo-Zs_Dp8
bergamot5599 8 months ago
61 NEO JAP NATIONALIST and counting LOL
MASTERNCS 9 months ago
watch?v=iFBo-Zs_Dp8
boiledegg777 9 months ago
@taihuu25go Learn Engligh or write in Japanese ok- you don't make any sense. Also, are you telling me Japanese martial arts never been in movies? Why can't you Neo Nazi Japanese Nationalists leave HDGD alone and mind your own business? You would think with everything going on in Japan you guys would have better things to do.
pomminsu 9 months ago
No. This is a downgrade copy of the Tate.
It seems to be a beginning that Haidon kumudo was used in a Korean movie of the 1980s.
taihuu25go 9 months ago
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Neo Nazi Japanese Nationalist are the only ones complaining about who made the curved blade. Who the hell invented the automobile and curry and blue jeans then. Stop all the FUCKING hating, you guys sound like little bitches. Japan did not invent the curved blade you morons. Stop arguing for fuck sakes.
MASTERNCS 9 months ago
South Korea begins to copy the Japanese martial arts from the late 20th century. Individual martial arts was not developed in the Joseon Dynasty(Korea). Taekwondo, Haidong Gumdo, Kumdo, Hapkido, Yudo is nothing to the history of Korea.
Taekwondo copied the Shotokan Karate. Haidong Gumdo and Kumdo copied Kendo. Hapkido copied the Daitoryu Jujutsu and Aikido. Yudo copied Judo. Hwa Rang Do is not historical martial arts. Hwa Rang is dancer in the Silla and Kogryo Dynasty.
unkeihokusai 9 months ago
Kendo 剣道 (Way of Sword) is a “Japanese” traditional martial art, which was established, developed, cherished,and handed down by Japanese Samurai warriors and hence is unique only to Japan. “GUMDO” is merely a Korean translation of the Japanese word, “Kendo.” It was brought by Japanese to Korea during the annexation period
(1910-1945).
maei7 9 months ago
Why so many of you Japanese racists give such a bad name to all Japanese by doing things like this. Do you believe you invented walking too? Stupid to think China, Korea, & Japan did not exchange martial knowledge as well as other knowledge with each other due to their proximity and wars fought between each other. Why can't you just respect good skill and the hard work that goes into achieving that skill?
pomminsu 9 months ago
What a fantastic demonstration. I pity you Korean detractors and your propaganda
RuggedHawaiian 9 months ago
I turn and why am a kung fu movie?
Do these people think that martial arts are dramas?
Such a useless movement is not martial arts.
Impurity do not hold traditional culture in Japan!
I think and force it to desire why there is bending to the sword whether I am thin.
koisan1000 9 months ago 3
チャンバラ？ 映画用の演技？
中国の剣舞の粗悪品か、日本の剣術の偽物としか言いようが無い･･･
updisk123 9 months ago 11
i must say Gumdo is just copied the surface of Japanese Kendo only without the reason(理)and Samurai spirits.this is not Budo(武道) anymore,Korean changed worst as Korean twiddle leaping dance.
stop to exhibit fake Korean Budo in the Japan Expo in Paris!!!!
watch?v=PVMwXztivL0
watch?v=7Hcq3kb792g (French)
watch?v=C7BoI4gWXN4
watch?v=ImWL-N582ZU
pls think and understand deeply the reason (理) and natural rule(自然法則).
sakura0jp0aikidodesu 9 months ago 4
Korean Gumdo is very dangerous art,since they let children hold wooden swords
or imitation Katana easily.In Japan we can't use its easily till master give the pardon.why Kendo use bamboo sword?since even just wooden or imitation sword can kill.if the children kill other people slily,could you accept the blame?
Korean Gumdo show the brassy performances and get many student and money teaching in hazard without any definite knowledge.
this is serious problem for society.
sakura0jp0aikidodesu 9 months ago 4
@sakura0jp0aikidodesu I wouldn't say that for all. The one Hiadong Gumdo instructor I know only offers the classes to those that have more then a few years in his TKD classes. I think the skill and control needed for either sword skill is very impressive.... but I'm just a gaijin.
MysticKnight38 4 months ago
“Corea has no Samurai. She lacks what Japan has always had - a cultured body of men, superbly trained in both mind and body, the soldier and scholar in one, who held to a high ideal of loyalty, patriotism, and sacrifice for country. “
(William Elliot Griffis, Corea, Hermit Nation, 1894)
watch?v=PVMwXztivL0
WondrousJapanForever 9 months ago 4
Bella dimostrazione.
brunocavanna 10 months ago
copy of Japan
RYO061699 10 months ago 47
@RYO061699 People don't care, as long as they're feeling better thanks to the discipline they practice, don't you think?
Lassionbabe 10 months ago
@Lassionbabe
Hi,i am learning Aikido and Iaido a little of bit.
why Japanese are confused to Korean Gumdo ....pls image that if Japanese swing around rapier that French fencing sword like cheerleading with dressing English kelt,and then the playing would be popular and spread in many country....
sakura0jp0aikidodesu 9 months ago
@Lassionbabe
suddenly the Japanese make public like that "Japacing is Japanese traditional martial art,and Kelt is Japanese wear originally!!"or "even if Japacing art is similar to French fencing,it is different art originally since Japanese fencing doesn't wear any protect."
Korean fabricate like that.i am sorry for my poor English.
sakura0jp0aikidodesu 9 months ago 4
@RYO061699
I read in a book that Haidong Gum Do is based on Gicheon,
a martial art which is quite similar to Tai Ji Quan, a chinese martial art.
Just because they use swords which look like katana doesnt mean they copied the art from Japanese Iado or Kenjutsu. Haidong Gum Do is developed from other styles.
By the way ALL martial arts are in a development, so its good to know where the roots were, but for practising it becomes unimportant.
benny0202 7 months ago
@RYO061699 the katana was introduced to japan through the continent(china and korea)
horangi75 6 months ago
@RYO061699 r u freakin kidding me korean's fought with sword's before japan was even born in which korean history is the same date with the chinese and japan was a little colony
scottyi88 5 months ago
@RYO061699 I don´t see the Japs doing bamboo cutting, and handling the Sword this good ;)
moodowon 4 months ago
Question for u all @:41 of the vid does he approach the candles with a closed fist or is he carrying/fanning wind in order to extinguish the candles??? damned if i do damned if i don't.......the power of chi is crazy indeed
MASTERNCS 10 months ago
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Korean has been trying to steal Chinese and Japanese traditional culture and make FAKE TRADITIONAL CULTURE in this era. and They try to be its origin.
I want all foreigners to know this crisis.
Korean think Bushido , Katana , Samurai and so many Japanese tradional culture and chinese culture is korean origin.
THERE IS NO HISTORICAL PROOF!!!
Their mimic of Kendo will come to Japan expo in this year.
watch this
v=bivg7cDHeyg
tasu9 10 months ago
Like a bad parody of Highlander.
highlanders7 10 months ago
やってることが 子供だね。
なんの精神性もない。
ShuuRon 10 months ago
Why do you wear a Japanese life jacket?
I introduce a Japanese tradition to wind in Korea, and does Korea appeal to me for a colony of Japan?
I delicately steal the Kung Fu.
koisan1000 10 months ago 2
これは日本の剣道を韓国が勝手に真似した物です
この動画に出てくる刀はどう見ても日本刀を模した物ですよ
韓国は青竜刀というぶっとい剣で刃が曲がってます
miyamotokusasi 10 months ago
culture thief Country＝Korea
tarou3917 10 months ago 3
Sham.
Copy from japan & china.
look wiki.
Kleiber2004 10 months ago
@Kleiber2004 You are such a fag and a joke to ur nation. Grow the fuck up man and enjoy the art for what it is. Stop trying to spread ur hate and ignorance to the public, No one really cares. It's like winning the gold medal at the special Olympics you retard.....................
MASTERNCS 10 months ago
@Kleiber2004 Where is the evidence that it is a copy from China or Japan Kleiber2004? can you really absolutely proof that the Koreans just copies and do not contribute to the development of the art at all? Unless you are really sure, I suggest you do not make such outrageous claims. One little hint.....Wikipedia is not the source of all truth, just in case you have not noticed.
iagahari 10 months ago
@iagahari Why Japanese angry now though it overlooked until now?
because the organizer of Japanese exposition in Paris 2011 makes a serious mistake, the show of the Haidong Gumdo has been listed.
Haidong Gumdo(in japanease called "kendo" or "aikido") use japanease KATANA or japanease SHINAI,wear Japanease HAKAMA.
Don't you think this is too much?
Kleiber2004 10 months ago
@centraltheorem2076, Oh by the way, Korea is a peace loving country and respect nature! For Japan, well what can you say about after watching these videos:
"The raping of Nanking Massacre Torture" and
"Unit 731 Japanese Torture & Human Medical Experiments 部隊の真実" videos.
I couldn't watch through these vidoes with a full stomach!!! Fucking sick bastards!
mrpahjun 1 year ago
@centraltheorem2076, Where the fuck have you been all these years. What goes around comes around! If your proud ancestors won't own up to the truth of your disgusting behaviors in the past, then you need to look at these videos. As I speak, your feeble-minded ancestors are burning in eternal hell fire forever, you nonsensical pussy bastard! So, go right ahead you dipshit, glorify your repugnant fucking ancestors for all I care. You will also be forever brainwashed, whale slaughtering cunt.
mrpahjun 1 year ago
@centraltheorem2076, including so many neighboring countries wants revenge or retrobution for raping, torturing, slaughtering, persecution against humanity. Like I said before, consider you pathethic little Ainu ancestors island lucky by countless times by the Mongols and Chinese invasion. You japs should be thankful for the harsh weather by the ocean and unforgiving typoons.
mrpahjun 1 year ago
@centraltheorem2076, I could careless about what your little midget ass Ainu island monkeys think about Koreans and don't you bring up Chinese people. You shameless war criminals will burn in hell for all your evil deeds and you have the adacity to bring up your disgusting behaviors of your ancestors. "I will spit and shit on your fucking ancestors grave, you fucking piece of shit!" So many nations look down on your jap history by showing pity of your shameless past. Chinese people and Koreans
mrpahjun 1 year ago
@centraltheorem2076, tell that to your pathethic lying ancestors who slaughtered and burned innocent people in WWII. You're simply brainwashed. You hypocrite jap bastard and stop your bullshit. I think your parents taught you to lie and cheat about your shameless culture. Look up "The raping of Nanking Massacre Torture" and if you still sucking on your dead emperors cock, then check out the video of "Unit 731 Japanese Torture & Human Medical Experiments 部隊の真実" Fuck you, you jap bitch!
mrpahjun 1 year ago
@centraltheorem, hey you dipshit! I really don't think your man enough realize about your dirty shameless past. If your so bent on recorrecting the originality about Martial Art then you must also comment on Brizilian Jujitsu. You fag! Fucking pussy!!! I will castrate what's left of your brave little fingers, including your shameless nuts.
mrpahjun 1 year ago
@mrpahjun Why? Japanese people will not say nothing to Brazilians because they admit Brazilian jujitsu has been originated from judo and they never tell untruth that Brazilian jujitsu has been originated from Brazil. But Koreans are telling untruth that kendo and katana were derived from Korea. Japanese people are angry at Koreans who are telling untruth. Koreans are never respected by Japanese and Chinese people as long as they are faking Japanese and Chinese cultures.
centraltheorem2076 1 year ago
@centraltheorem2076, tell that to your pathethic lying ancestors who slaughtered and burned innocent people in WWII. You're simply brainwashed. You hypocrite jap bastard and stop your bullshit. I think your parents taught you to lie and cheat about your shameless culture. Look up "The raping of Nanking Massacre Torture" and if you still sucking on your dead emperors cock, then check out the video of "Unit 731 Japanese Torture & Human Medical Experiments 部隊の真実" Fuck you, you jap bitch!
mrpahjun 1 year ago
@mrpahjun Please consider why Koreans have not been respected by Japanese people. You disgrace Korea and Koreans by your behavior. The fact that Koreans label "Korean" on kendo and katana is never changed if you yell out. Didn't you learn shamefulness from your kumdo teachers? Kendo teachers must teach it.
centraltheorem2076 1 year ago
Why does it matter whether Haidong Gumdo is a traditional art, or whether Korea traditionally used a curved two-handed blade or not? If you like the art, enjoy this video and train hard. If you don't, show some respect and discipline to the way of the martial arts and fellow martial artists and go watch a kendo video.
XoNMan1 1 year ago
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danceontightrope 1 year ago
@XoNMan1 Please don't misunderstand. Japanese are angry at Haidong people who label "Korean" on kendo and samurai swords. Japanese would say nothing if Koreans valued the long efforts by Japanese people. Koreans often claims origins of Japanese martial arts such as kendo (as kumdo), judo (as yudo), aikido (as hapkido), and so on. Why do Koreans imitate Japanese cultures inspite that they hate Japan? It's very curious. The people who do not respect the spirits of martial arts are haidong people.
centraltheorem2076 1 year ago
@centraltheorem2076 It is not fair to hate on an entire style and everyone in it because some misinformed people on youtube make outrageous claims. Surely though you can understand Korea's resentment of Japan given the history. Frankly I'm not interested in any of that, but I believe every martial artist should show respect for their fellow practitioners training and hard work, and not disrespect them because of their chosen style.
XoNMan1 1 year ago
@XoNMan1 I don't hate Koreans but I just feel sorry when watching Koreans tell untruth about the origin of their martial arts. The technique was developed by our ancestors. But Koreans are telling untruth that the technique was originated from Korea with wearing hakama and using samurai swords. In martial arts, to respect your opponents and the accomplishments by the forerunners are important. So I said they (not all but Haidong teachers) did not respect the spirits of martial arts.
centraltheorem2076 1 year ago
@centraltheorem2076 ...and there would have been a time when China or Korea would have said shame shame on the Japanese for using their stuff....lol this is nothing more then a modern evolution of martial arts..its happened countless times. The one sided blade came from KOREA via CHINA and then the curve was added in japan. As to why Hakama...Well Korea WAS a colony (against their will) of Japan as you very well know. Any and ALL Korean culture was forbidden during this time.
BlackSoulsAion 10 months ago
@XoNMan1 Didn't you learn to look up to the works by your ancestors in the school? We Japanese people were educated that we must respect our cultures handed down by our ancestors. In addition, we were educated not to tell untruth to people. To lie was the worst in the Japanese society. If it is joyful, don't you correct a mistake?
centraltheorem2076 1 year ago
この納刀の動きいつも笑える。
noinjamininja 1 year ago
Haidong is not a hitorical existence. It is a copy of Japanese art of sword. There is no historical document recording Korean art of sword, because Korean history is not military but literary. Please be proud of Korean original and beautiful culture. You should not easily imitate neighbor's culture. Japanese people have developed the art of sword for a long time. You should not give a reason to Japanese people to ridicule you. NOW, you should become people which Japanese and Chinese can respect.
centraltheorem2076 1 year ago
Why do they use Japanese swords? If they are proud of their own country's culture. They should use Korea swords.
centraltheorem2076 1 year ago
@centraltheorem2076
They are using Korean swords. Given Koreas location it was/is a natural bridge between China and Japan. Sword forging spread from China to Korea to Japan (around 6-700AD). You will find many similarities between Korean and Japanese designs due to the fact that Japan accupied Korea several times. Check asian art history books and you will find that many ancient Japanese craftsmen were actually abducted Koreans. Hope this clarified things a bit.
Asiaroeschti 1 year ago
@Asiaroeschti Japanese swords have been developed in Japanese islands. Sword mining technique in Japan is very different from Korean one. You don't know? Almost all Korean swords created in modern era is copy swords strongly influenced by samurai swords. Korean people should reproduce original shape of Korean swords. You should not mimic Japanese culture. Please be proud of your own country's culture. You are making your ancestors feel sad under the ground.
centraltheorem2076 1 year ago
@centraltheorem2076
Check the sword designs of the Joseon Dynasty and you will notice the similiarity with the current designs. As a difference the current Haidong Gumdo swords are a bit bulkier due to the fact that the practicioners focus on cutting performances. Well, opinions are like buttholes: Everbody has one. So I will stick to my opinion, feels free to stick to yours. Feel free to drop by in Switzerland if you want to continue anyway.
Asiaroeschti 1 year ago
@Asiaroeschti Traditional Korean swords don't look like Japanese swords. But the swords they have are very similar to Japanese swords. Probably they were made by copying samurai swords. Due to a part of Korean like the uploader of this video, all Koreans are fooled by Japanese. In addition, Haidong is not a historical existence. It was started recently. A lot of Asian people know that. Europeans and Americans who are not familiar with Asian culture are deceived.
centraltheorem2076 1 year ago
holy shit. why isnt this popular?
lolofdoom 1 year ago
Wow... I have never seen such thing from Korea.
Very exciting to watch.
Mapanda 1 year ago
AMAZING at 8:45 i swear i almost had a heart attack that was amazing
badboi26101 1 year ago
Im happy because Im a white belt and can understand the meaning of haidong gumdo better than a lot of people here. I dont know who you are guys but, why arguing about something like this? Just let it be.
Korean copying Japan? Who cares? It's like music: Rock & roll copying blues?! It's just ART.
LGshwm 1 year ago 2
martial art is an ART.
nobody owns it
nor does a country
nor is it something that is stolen from another.
it is something that all people from every nation should be able to practice without judgement or argument.
so please lets not ruin it and just enjoy the video and appreciate the time and effort these people put into their training
xxxKDHxxx 1 year ago 10
@xxxKDHxxx Amen.
Freexthinkerx 1 year ago
@xxxKDHxxx Amen.
Freexthinkerx 1 year ago
@xxxKDHxxx It is a country that invented it....
JESUSISGREATEST 11 months ago
@xxxKDHxxx oversimplification and avoidance in order to cover up plagiarism.
GhostXDog 9 months ago
@xxxKDHxxx , nice words.
TamerlanKuzgov 7 months ago
For their martial arts, a Chinese sword will be better
Because the Japanese sword is not good to swing it around
They mistake "ken-jyutsu" for "cyanbara"
katsukit 1 year ago
boys, kids,
- all the time argue and fight who copied what !
go and learn to cut proper thick bamboo ! have fun with it and dont struggle who invented it ! cut 3 papers in a row ! learn putting out candles. there you will find ganja, you will find peace !
wienonline 1 year ago
日本のパクリじゃん。
本当朝鮮人て気持ち悪い。
KkkOoIiCcHhIi 1 year ago
haidong gumdo..was created on a movie scene by a producteur in 1982..they went court..they claiming they are the original..but the korean didnt have a proof.so they lost in court!!
sexyboy0690 1 year ago
wow
KSJoshWhite 1 year ago
(2) I have been a Kenjutsu practioner for 15 years now and I still see the ancient Silla influences in Gumdo style especially with the 2 swords method.....And by the way the Silla kicked the shit out of the Japanese in 663 using this style of fighting..READ YOUR HISTORY BEFORE YOU COMMENT HOLLYWOOD EXPERTS!!!!
Highlandersforever 2 years ago
@Highlandersforever my Kwonjanim in TKD said after Japan outlawed many Korean martial arts they introduced Japanese martial arts such as kendo to schools. Its popularity in Korea spread fast as part of Koreas first national physical education system. Up until end of the occupation. kumdo developed in parallel with kendo. So it had its roots in Japan. They just took the idea that was shown to them by the Japanese and made it into there own thing. So you may be a little off sir.
link000000 2 years ago
really? wow... that's kinda hard to believe... sorry been practicing kendo in a korean dojo... but what i dont understand is how do they really help in a real fight? i dont understand.
jung567 1 year ago
(1)Gumdo is not japanese it is an ancient form of martial style from the Silla warriors of the Silla kingdom now modern day korea (56 B.C - 935 A.D) the modern similarities are more in the fact that the Gumdo practitioner wears Japanese Hakama during practice WHY I HAVE NO FUCKIN IDEA? but to say it is from Japanese style is ignorant it has many similaryties I agree but most asian martial styles are very similar,
Highlandersforever 2 years ago
The same reason many styles use the Japanese style karate uniform :)..its just because it was adapted. Great post by the way
DustinAdam07 1 year ago
Gumdo and Kendo are like the same thing, but Gumdo is slightly different because it is Korean taught. It doesn't really matter if anyone's copying because all martial arts originated in India anyway.
tcgthevidiots 2 years ago
I don't give a crap about what other people think. I like this video. Very nice skills.
5 stars.
onyoursidee 2 years ago
@onyoursidee
Please donot be fooled with these flashy moves which influcenced by Japanese samurai movies. Traditional sword fight skill from Japan, Kendo, is all about strict and skill. No dance, NO music, NO bull shits like this. It is serious thing.
And what they doing here is use Japanese katana and cloth that caught world recognition and show it as if it all belong to Korea. It is just so funny moves and without back ground of samurai history. Gumdo only started 1970s!
tokyocityrat 2 years ago
@tokyocityrat
I know ninja origin belongs to Japan. Haha is the word ninja even Korean? NO. Koreans know that - most do, anyway. You're generalizing the whole freaking nation of one or few people.
NOBODY CLAIMED THAT IT ALL BELONGED TO KOREA. What makes you think that way? It's the same as some ignorant Japanese people claiming Tae Kwon Do as being Japanese - you shouldn't generalize because of one person's ignorance, regardless of the nationality.
onyoursidee 2 years ago
@onyoursidee
please see Chosen Ninja channel on YT.
There are so many video posts by him. His name is Greg Park. He is Korean American who sing Ninja origin belong to Korea. And also please check Gumdo website, they are saying Japanese kendo was originally from Korean Gumdo.
tokyocityrat 2 years ago
this is a demonstration so there need to be some flashy moves because of the show and for the people who are watching. Haidong Gumdo is more than those flashy moves.. just like korean tae kwon do. so don´t get mad at people who like that demonstration
WhiteSAM20 2 years ago
@WhiteSAM20
These samurai-move- like flashy demo make both Kendo and Gumdo CHEAP!!! I do not know if it OK for Gumdo, but for Kendo, I do not think that's acceptable. Kendo is serious thing and it is not a show. Kendo isn't such cheap thing. You will know if you play it once and see how hart to play it. This thing is for kids play. Imagin if someone play with western swords and move like a worrier from Load of the Ring. Do you take it seriously?
tokyocityrat 2 years ago
first i ignore the gramma but, why should i PLAY kendo? and the difference between kendo and gumdo in itsself is the speed. kendo has something like one strike and finish. Gumdo is way faster and like berserk. so this video doesn´t show the truth of haidong gumdo. just like every demonstration. and demonstrations are just for publicity and for getting new members. hope u don´t forget about that ;)
WhiteSAM20 2 years ago
@WhiteSAM20
First of all, I did not ask you to play Kendo.
Second, you are wrong with Kendo and Gumdo speed. How do you know without playing Kendo before? Gumdo is Korean interpretation of Kendo. And this is wrong way of publicity for getting new players, because Kendo (origin of Gumdo) isn't a show. It is "DO!" if you know what I meant with DO (道）. It is like showing samurai movie actions to invite players...and these players are not serious.
tokyocityrat 2 years ago
@WhiteSAM20
Also, they should stop using and wearing Japanese Kendo equipment if Gumdo is different from Kendo. It will create confusion for those who are interested in real Japanese Kendo. What more, Korean claim Gumdo is the original of Japanese Kendo. What a joke.
tokyocityrat 2 years ago
@tokyocityrat what teacher do you have that allows you to talk like that?
AlanMolstad 1 year ago
the paer cutting is funny..i can do that with a pocket stanley blade from walmart
tuchitochi 2 years ago
Try it with a sword. The difficulty is greater than you imagine. But it is funny to think cutting paper requires skill of any kind. There is a lesson in there for us: never to judge that what we do not yet understand. This is true of all things.
CitizenNomad 2 years ago
if i wanna show i can use a sword...i wudnt show ppl that i can cut through paper LOL
tuchitochi 2 years ago
I rarely show anyone any of the ability I possess, as knowledge, once imparted, cannot be reclaimed. And should I meet with an adversary, I should hope them to fall before they realize their error, or my perceived skill.
CitizenNomad 2 years ago
how do u pronounce it...goomdoh or like chewing gum..gumdoh ?
tuchitochi 2 years ago
PEOPLE THIS IS HAIDONG GUMDO. Stop uttering nonsense please. Ignorance in this world saddens me nowadays. Haidong Gumdo is indeed Korean, and Koreans are not copying anything! Jeezus. Being a martial artist myself, this is so sad to see. 해동검도 <-- Korean. For the last time! Nobody is copying anybody. People who claim that Koreans are copying Japanese and crap are usually the people who know nothing about martial arts, anyway. Probably not even white belt, ha.
panda4ever12 2 years ago
@panda4ever12
You are wrong. Study first and then talk. If you are matial artist (I do not know what hell martial artist you are in) better know original and copy. Copy is copy. it is too obvious in front of our eyes! Just look at their cloth and swords! they do not belong to Korean traditional martial art. And its move should be inspired by Samurai movies. Not from actual samurai combats which lately become sports kendo...after all refinements in its movements.
tokyocityrat 2 years ago
@tokyocityrat
Whoa, calm down. I don't see why people are freaking out and bitching on this page. I agree with you - the clothes and swords are somewhat influenced by Japan. But would you not say the samething about every other martial art? The way they use belts, uniforms, etc. etc.? Look at Kung Fu. Tae Kwon Do. Karate.
See my point? It'd be nice to know which martial art you're in, too. I'm guessing something Japanese, with the way you're hot headly defending the Japanese side.
onyoursidee 2 years ago
@onyoursidee
OK dude. let me take a deep breath...huuuuu.....calm downed.
Now, please get my point. They are claiming the origin. Korean said this is came from Korea while they using Katana and Japanese cloth. If they keep saying to these who have not been to exposed to Kendo, they easily believe fake story. If you look at Chosen Ninja posts in YT...then you find Korean guy claiming Ninja origin in Korea....it happens all traditional cultures of ours. SOO many Japanese are now upset.
tokyocityrat 2 years ago
@panda4ever12
Haidong Gumdo is Korean. I agree. but you have to admit they use Japanese Katana and cloth(small thing tho). If you are martial artist, Kata and tradition are very important to traditional martial arts. You can swing your fist, but without kata, it will not be counted as effectivel...as such, they should use Korean things not Japanese. That's why I call it copied Japanese Kendo. And what are those actings? And Japanese Taiko as background music?
tokyocityrat 2 years ago
They can at least do not wear Japanese cloth and stop using Japanese Katanas...if they claim it as their original. Meantime, we all know this thing was created in 1980s.
tokyocityrat 2 years ago
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CitizenNomad 2 years ago
True traditioanl Korean swords were streight one. Much like Chinese one. And they did not hold katana like Japanese. Also Korean hold their sword grip on backword, not like Japanese who hold Katana grip on front. And they wear totally differenct cloth. In this vid, they wear Japanese cloth for some reason.
tokyocityrat 2 years ago
Thank you for making things clear to me. What you have said is true, now that you point that out. That would make this video a circus performance then would it not? I appreciate the lesson.
CitizenNomad 2 years ago
@CitizenNomad
Actually Korea have one of the best Kendo practictioners in the world. I wonder how they feel about Gumdo's flashy moves. This is more show than real martial art....which maybe more appealing to those who have not been exposed Asian swords, and easily start to think these are Japanese samurai kendo...totally fooled. That's not good way..and they aren't rooted real samurai one to one combat traditions. Not even close to real Kendo.
tokyocityrat 2 years ago
@CitizenNomad
If they apply these stupid flashy move to real kendo matches, they will be defeated in a miniutes because real kendo guys can read their flashy swings easily. Real kendo win/lose is matter of sub 1 sec, sometimes faster than 0.5 sec...there are no room for dancing swing like that...if that's their kata.
tokyocityrat 2 years ago
i'll be there in one year, i cant wait
mominaporongon 2 years ago
love the music at 1:58, what is this? goes great to the guy doing the forms too!!!
Glennwingchun 2 years ago 6
Koreans may not be copying Japanese swordfighting styles, but Korean media execs have no problem copying Japanese TV programs.
Not to mention Korea does its own share of accusing Japan of certain other things. So please, enough with the "Japanese are bad" mantra. I've heard it for the last 13 years living in Korea. It's tiresome.
coitus68 2 years ago
Be specific about your accusation.
Formats of TV programs are similar in all countries because we are all copying the pioneer of TV programs, the American TV.
You should accuse all countries for copying the formats of VARIETY SHOWS, TALK SHOWS, MUSIC SHOWS, GAMES SHOWS, AWARD CEREMONIES, SIT-COMS, TALENT SHOWS, NEWS PROGRAMS, NEWS MAGAZINES, from the American TV.
KimInLosAngeles 2 years ago