Muting techniques for piano tuning *bad audio*

[1wirewool]

How about a Paps Wedge? I have used them for years, simple.

[knumberd]

man, its a good video maybe u should rerecord it

[drwoodwind]

Hi Isaac,

I'd be hesitant to say "no way" about any techniques. If there's one message I'd like to pass on to technicians it is that we are all individuals, and what works (or doesn't) for one tech is not a rule for another. We all have to try a variety of techniques to find what works.

For me, the only way to be sure is to listen as the musician does... all three strings for final movement of the third string...

[Pianotec]

Ron, thanks for answer . I slightly differ, in a sence that technicans can vary and may, but some basis finally tend to emerge with time. All comments are based on my own evolving, but I look at others around really a lot, and I discovered that some of the actually usual ways to do things are there with good reasons. Can be taught something that looks like a Japanese or a new method, to discover later that 100 % of concert tuners use it , and where doing so for a long time. Musician ear OK

[Pianotec]

Hello ROn,

Thanks for sharing

The basis of unison tuning is to tune 2 doublets of strings together. No way to have pure and good sounding unissons with a 3 strings tuning method (while it was the way I learned first , 35 years ago)

You have to tune 2 strings vs 2 strings,only in PR a 3 strings unisson is accepteable.

If not, you have no control on the phase effect and it is very difficult to avoid any leaning tone.

Do you only show PR muting in this video ?

Isaac OLEG

[mevmevmev]

Thanks for the videos. I've watched them all and am learning lots. Look forward to fixed audio on this one.

[drwoodwind]

Sorry all about the audio - seems to be a conflict with the lapel mic I tried to use... I'll try again soon.

One mute allows me to tune just the left or right string first. Aural tuners are using the single rubber mute technique too, so yes, you would need to check intervals as you progress.

RK

[pianolist]

Please fix the audio and also add much better lighting down on the strings.

[mcgiver02]

I read about TEMPERAMENT STRIP in J.Cree Fischer. Colin McCullogh mentioned it in his tutorial webpage. But You don't seem to need it.

Don't you use it at all ?

[mcgiver02]

To tune unisons,

Don't you need TWO mutes to mute the outside strings, so you can concentrate on the centre string ?

Next, you seemed to tune chromataically.

That implies you were using a Korg or some software such as TuneLab 91.

If you tuned aurally, you would need

to tune by intervals such as 3rd, 6th and checking by 4th or 5th. Am I right ?

[pianoscantalk]

If one has a "good ear" so to speak, they can tune chromatically aurally. This can come with experience or just naturally (like perfect pitch or relative pitch).

[r0natello]

Nice video but the audio keeps cutting out. Maybe an encoding problem?