Messianic Movement and Messianic Judaism

[homemarketer61]

Yeshua spoke against the "interpretation" set up by the rabbis. Elohim said one thing and the Rabbis contradicted what He said. Yeshua came to teach Torah based on Torah itself not some else's interpretation. When people start interpreting Torah, then we get several opinions with several forms of religions. The rabbis say that you must pray when washing your hands...where is that written in the Torah? That is man's interpretation not Elohim's direct words.

[psandbergnz]

@homemarketer61, why do you call him "yeshua"? His real name could have equally been "Yehoshua" or other such derivative. In calling him "Yeshua", you are admitting the New Testament is deficient, since it is not aware of his real name, and you want to know it.

Even the fact that his language (Aramaic) is not recorded in any documents is suspicious. It is evidence the New Testament writers (or early Church) controlled what he said. Jesus' speech was removed from his culture, and re-worked.

[rocermi61]

"Rabbinic Judaism" is not Biblical Judaism, because of the doctrines in the Talmud where it states that even Adonay can't contradict the sayings of the rabbis...Rabbinic Judaism is a religious dictatorship that states that if someone believes in Yeshua, the Messiah from Israel who came to save Humanity from sins, stops being a Jew...how is it possible? I am a sephardic Jew and I believe in Yeshua, not in "christianity", since the goyim rejected Judaism without thinking that Yeshua is a Jew.

[clarkewi]

@rocermi61 Well said. Rabbinic Judaism emphaisise "Oral Law"(Mishnah) over Torah. This is the message of Jesus, to place the emphasis back on the written law. Oral law had become rediculous by the first century. Rabbinic Judaism, however, has preserved Torah where Roman Christianity has added its own "oral law" known as Paganism and Babylonian Sun worship. The idea is not to throw out the baby with the bathwater - follow Jesus and keep Torah or at least be a Noahide.

[jimmypagen10]

@rocermi61 Actually thats not true It states that Adonai gave complete authority to the Rabbis for interpreting Torah

[homemarketer61]

@jimmypagen10 Where does it say so? Only in the Talmud you'll find that statement, that actually was written there by the rabbis. This is called "Circular Reasoning" you believe in what the rabbis say, because the rabbis say that Elohim gave them authority to interpret the scriptures. Is like saying in Mormonism that Joseph Smith, is a prophet because he said so or Mohammed is a prophet because the Quram says so. Torah was written to be read to everyone with no personal interpretation.

[Drregaleagle]

I thought continuity was lost when the Temple was destroyed in 70 C.E.