Complètement d'accord avec ta volonté de faire ça avec des animations, pour bien correspondre à la musique "coulante" de Mozart et de l'état d'esprit qui va avec (par contre pour Prokofiev le montage très rapide correspond à merveille :)). c'est marrant je me disais ça durant la vidéo, qui par ailleurs est très cool.
@zviane ...and yet useful in clarifying the contrasting moods which you present. "i" with a sad face is less confusing to the student musician than "I."
@YAM466 Of course it is! You can use 6 4 chords when the bass line moves stepwise through the chord, or at a cadence: Ic V I. It is not "rare as pope shit", it's common as muck.
@TheCrazyCello Et moi je répète que NON, c'est pas acceptable sur un temps fort. Ça PARAÎT être 6 4, mais en fait c'est un V avec des notes ornementales égales à la longueur du temps, puis résolues sur le temps suivant par mouvement conjoint, ce n'est PAS I 6 4. Pour qu'un chiffrage sixte et quarte soit acceptable, il doit absolument être amené par I6, par exemple, ce qui n'était pas le cas ici. Même chose pour IV 6 4. Ce n'est PAS un IV 6 4, mais un I avec des notes ornementales résolues BON.
@TheCrazyCello D'ailleurs, l'auteur(e) de la vidéo l'a mis entre parenthèses, pour prouver que c'est pas vraiment le bon chiffrage, mais que ça passe quand même.
@YAM466 There is nothing wrong with it! There are countless examples of Ic V I cadences throughout musical history. Literally thousands in the 18th century. Yes - normally a 2nd inversion chord is weak and would be avoided, but as I said, when the bassline moves stepwise through the chord it is allowed. However it is ALWAYS acceptable at a cadence, as in this occurance. 6/4 resolves to 5/3 on the dominant note in the bass before a perfect cadence. Stop talking shit.
@TheCrazyCello You don't understand what I mean. I KNOW it SEEMS to be an I 6 4, but it is NOT. It seems to be, but in fact it is a V with decorative notes that are resolved on the next pulsation. From a real analytic point of view, it cannot be named a 6 4, it is a V 5 3 with a melodic movement towards 6 4 resolved later on 5 3, but it cannot be named I 6/4. I know ornamented cadential V are acceptable and may seem to be I 6/4, but they can't be named that way !
@TheCrazyCello To be a true I 6/4, it MUST be introduced by the fundamental chord and be played on a weak pulse, like 3 if in 4/4. I KNOW what I am talking about, I just finished my musical analysis course! It can't be called I 64 because the fourth is dissonant and therefore renders the fundamental unstable. a fundamental MUST bring stability to the harmonic function. It can't be considered as an I 6/4 chord. I know I'm right ! It's written black on white, in my musical analysis book!
@YAM466 Look. What notes do you hear? You hear a G in the bass. You hear an E and a C above it. It doesn't matter if they are "ornamental" because they were not prepared by the secondary dominant which preceeded it, or if it is voice leading towards the V chord, or if it is dissonant, or harmonically unstable. It is an absolute undeniable fact that there is a G in the bass, with E and C above it. The figures that you place under the G are "6/4".
@YAM466 Textbooks are textbooks and are written after the fact. Do you think Mozart went "oh no, I can't place a 6/4 chord after a secondary dominant, on a strong beat - it renders the fundamental unstable! I'll write exactly the same notes, but it will just be known as an unprepared double suspension on the dominant". No, he just wrote the notes because they sounded right in the sense of the musical expression he wished to acheive. If he was writing figures underneath, he would simply write 6/4
@YAM466 However if you are arguing about whether it can be labled "chord I in 6 4 inversion" or "a chord on the dominant note with 6 and 4 above it" then that is possibly one of the most utterly pointless arguments ever to have been devised in the history of mankind and I bid you good day.
@TheCrazyCello I second Yam, in this case it's not a 6 4, but a V with ornemental note who make it look exactly like a 6 4, but it's not a 6 4 because the 6 4 need to be introduce by a I 6 :3
Wow félicitations Zviane j'ai vraiment eu beaucoup de plaisir avec tes deux animations !! J'aime beaucoup le III majeur, le VdeV et le I(6 4)... par contre, no offense, mais je suis pas sûr pour le napolitain. Je trouve que ça fait pas assez les statues tournent la tête d'un coup... 8)
En tout cas, ce vidéo mérite tout mon like possible ! Bravo !
Haha, c'est arrivé par Facebook, et je me suis dit "tiens, ça me fait penser à zviane ; faut que je lui envoie". Ben fail, tu l'as déjà vu. Et pour cause !
@marchingsoutherner09 yes, I know. What i was trying to say, is that although I like the video a lot, I agree with most of the pictures for the chords, but not about the V one.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!
mrpossibilities 1 month ago
man this is awesome :D
omgkennyisliving 1 month ago
jajajajaa en definitiva esta soy yo jajajaaa
mandybulynNery 2 months ago
?????????????
LuciusColumelle 3 months ago
haha en voyant des VII et des II partout j'étais sur que c'était québécois, et bingo!
deadkepon 3 months ago
Shouldn't the B section be "i" not I? - minor? at around .47
Antnelson13 3 months ago
Captain obvious?
helenevienna 3 months ago
120,000 views and only 3 dislikes? Not only is the piece of music a masterpiece...
svict4 3 months ago in playlist More videos from zviane
"You must keep in mind that there are MORE THAN ONE METHOD to analyse music."
Thank you for these videos, simply amazing, im sending it to all my musician friends, i wish teachers had taught me this way!
you're great!
celiaph123 3 months ago in playlist Más vídeos de zviane
I would like to see this with Schoenberg :3
darthjoey13 3 months ago 2
always makes me laugh
erelachan 3 months ago
Complètement d'accord avec ta volonté de faire ça avec des animations, pour bien correspondre à la musique "coulante" de Mozart et de l'état d'esprit qui va avec (par contre pour Prokofiev le montage très rapide correspond à merveille :)). c'est marrant je me disais ça durant la vidéo, qui par ailleurs est très cool.
Mahler1988 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Hey you guys... check out my version of this video on my channel!
DeArteCombinatoria 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
J adore l harmonie et tes petits films ;-)))))
damiendijon 5 months ago
J adore l harmonie et tes petits films ;-)))))
damiendijon 5 months ago
@zviane ...and yet useful in clarifying the contrasting moods which you present. "i" with a sad face is less confusing to the student musician than "I."
OrchestrationOnline 6 months ago
lo mejor que vi en años!!!! sirve para dar clase en el conservatorio. La simpleza de los dibujos lo hace más gracioso e interesante.
sarachara 6 months ago
BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO
paulmaccafan 6 months ago
hahahahaha! Incredible!
Flalape 6 months ago
I LOVE how the five of five has so much attitude! XD
operaticxingenue 7 months ago
C'est toi qui as fait ça?
PaulineBelgique 8 months ago
Congratulation, that's incredible, man! Very keen music knowledge!
RenanAlonso 8 months ago
pretty nice!!
Bosque87 9 months ago in playlist Music Theory/Harmony
ahahahaha fantastico
maurezze 9 months ago
what soing is ?
yoeltape 9 months ago
G-E-N-I-A-L
patispk 9 months ago
Not bad - would have been nice to have small roman numerals on the minor chords.
OrchestrationOnline 10 months ago
moreeeeee!!! give us moreeeee!!!!!!!
musicoenfermera 10 months ago
Loved the V of V characterization!
roseograce 10 months ago
I assume this was produced in "French"? Just curious, in French solfege is the lower case Roman numeral not used to denote minor chords?
Loved watching and shared it on my Fb page!
bluberrymonster 10 months ago
Es realmente fascinante escuchar ésta hermosa música de Mozart.Además ayuda mucho a relajarte. Sirve como musicoterapia. Grande You-Tube
MrMiguelin59 10 months ago
This is absolutely adorable.
TheVocalEscape 10 months ago
Nice..... You just missed the tonicization to F major..
fmusikalia 10 months ago
I love it! This is great, even without the animation! Waiting for more videos :)
bo10gotj 10 months ago
Thanks for translate our point of view to the non-musician's world!
santgil 10 months ago
I sixte et quarte n'est pas un chiffrage acceptable. C'est rare comme d'la marde de pape :)
YAM466 1 year ago
@YAM466 Of course it is! You can use 6 4 chords when the bass line moves stepwise through the chord, or at a cadence: Ic V I. It is not "rare as pope shit", it's common as muck.
TheCrazyCello 11 months ago
@TheCrazyCello Et moi je répète que NON, c'est pas acceptable sur un temps fort. Ça PARAÎT être 6 4, mais en fait c'est un V avec des notes ornementales égales à la longueur du temps, puis résolues sur le temps suivant par mouvement conjoint, ce n'est PAS I 6 4. Pour qu'un chiffrage sixte et quarte soit acceptable, il doit absolument être amené par I6, par exemple, ce qui n'était pas le cas ici. Même chose pour IV 6 4. Ce n'est PAS un IV 6 4, mais un I avec des notes ornementales résolues BON.
YAM466 8 months ago
@TheCrazyCello D'ailleurs, l'auteur(e) de la vidéo l'a mis entre parenthèses, pour prouver que c'est pas vraiment le bon chiffrage, mais que ça passe quand même.
YAM466 8 months ago
@YAM466 There is nothing wrong with it! There are countless examples of Ic V I cadences throughout musical history. Literally thousands in the 18th century. Yes - normally a 2nd inversion chord is weak and would be avoided, but as I said, when the bassline moves stepwise through the chord it is allowed. However it is ALWAYS acceptable at a cadence, as in this occurance. 6/4 resolves to 5/3 on the dominant note in the bass before a perfect cadence. Stop talking shit.
TheCrazyCello 8 months ago
@TheCrazyCello You don't understand what I mean. I KNOW it SEEMS to be an I 6 4, but it is NOT. It seems to be, but in fact it is a V with decorative notes that are resolved on the next pulsation. From a real analytic point of view, it cannot be named a 6 4, it is a V 5 3 with a melodic movement towards 6 4 resolved later on 5 3, but it cannot be named I 6/4. I know ornamented cadential V are acceptable and may seem to be I 6/4, but they can't be named that way !
YAM466 8 months ago
@TheCrazyCello To be a true I 6/4, it MUST be introduced by the fundamental chord and be played on a weak pulse, like 3 if in 4/4. I KNOW what I am talking about, I just finished my musical analysis course! It can't be called I 64 because the fourth is dissonant and therefore renders the fundamental unstable. a fundamental MUST bring stability to the harmonic function. It can't be considered as an I 6/4 chord. I know I'm right ! It's written black on white, in my musical analysis book!
YAM466 8 months ago
@YAM466 Look. What notes do you hear? You hear a G in the bass. You hear an E and a C above it. It doesn't matter if they are "ornamental" because they were not prepared by the secondary dominant which preceeded it, or if it is voice leading towards the V chord, or if it is dissonant, or harmonically unstable. It is an absolute undeniable fact that there is a G in the bass, with E and C above it. The figures that you place under the G are "6/4".
TheCrazyCello 8 months ago
@YAM466 Textbooks are textbooks and are written after the fact. Do you think Mozart went "oh no, I can't place a 6/4 chord after a secondary dominant, on a strong beat - it renders the fundamental unstable! I'll write exactly the same notes, but it will just be known as an unprepared double suspension on the dominant". No, he just wrote the notes because they sounded right in the sense of the musical expression he wished to acheive. If he was writing figures underneath, he would simply write 6/4
TheCrazyCello 8 months ago
@YAM466 However if you are arguing about whether it can be labled "chord I in 6 4 inversion" or "a chord on the dominant note with 6 and 4 above it" then that is possibly one of the most utterly pointless arguments ever to have been devised in the history of mankind and I bid you good day.
TheCrazyCello 8 months ago
@TheCrazyCello I second Yam, in this case it's not a 6 4, but a V with ornemental note who make it look exactly like a 6 4, but it's not a 6 4 because the 6 4 need to be introduce by a I 6 :3
Moonydub 8 months ago
Cool!
jamesjoycebr 1 year ago
what song is this?
i played this before...but can't remember the name :((
lelouch3 1 year ago
@lelouch3 Mozart, Piano sonata No.16 in C, K. 545, first movement (allegro).
RefletdOmbres 1 year ago
)) great!!!!wonderful!!
ninucanini 1 year ago
V de V was fantastic!
atsaka 1 year ago
Great example
jwd223 1 year ago
adorable!
picmeco 1 year ago 12
Comment removed
TheresNoEinALLI 1 year ago
Le 2 en mineur est parfait!
SimmiZ 1 year ago
V of V is awesome hahaha
theanswer00 1 year ago
LOL EPIC!!!
georgesman33 1 year ago 7
I used to play this song all the time, I listened to this video and I went straight to my piano to play it.
I believe this is marked as allegro, but it sounds sooo much better if you speed down the tempo just a little..
Gaspacho79 1 year ago
@Gaspacho79 actually we cannot know how fast they were playing when they signed "allegro" or "presto".. surely every allegro has its own tempo
theanswer00 1 year ago
I ii iii IV V vi vii and i ii III iv V VI vii, do that and I use it in class!
grandbaton 1 year ago
i like IV! so cute!
isoldeuberalles 1 year ago
Wow félicitations Zviane j'ai vraiment eu beaucoup de plaisir avec tes deux animations !! J'aime beaucoup le III majeur, le VdeV et le I(6 4)... par contre, no offense, mais je suis pas sûr pour le napolitain. Je trouve que ça fait pas assez les statues tournent la tête d'un coup... 8)
En tout cas, ce vidéo mérite tout mon like possible ! Bravo !
Arsou333 1 year ago
sjajno!
mmirenaa 1 year ago
thanks !
JulieKenya 1 year ago
so great
DDS1906 1 year ago
Très intelligent , tendre et très utile aussi pour une impression syntetique de l'harmonie comme état d'ame.
je vais l'envoyer aux amis qui inseignent musique, comme moi : )
brava/o zviane! Et je trouve que les dessins fixes sont beaucoup plus poetiques que les animations!!!
atalamon 1 year ago
Geniale, vero e divertentissimo!
ingridBLU 1 year ago
Haha, c'est arrivé par Facebook, et je me suis dit "tiens, ça me fait penser à zviane ; faut que je lui envoie". Ben fail, tu l'as déjà vu. Et pour cause !
madpr0g 1 year ago
@madpr0g hahahahaha :P
zviane 6 months ago
but is really fun!!
sandsaens 1 year ago
hum.. You should use "i" in the minor Tonality not I dont you???
sandsaens 1 year ago
Muy bueno!!!
Bolombilla 1 year ago
j'aime le visage pour VII !
music1595 1 year ago
...merci beaucoup, c'est très cool (et les dessins fixes marchent bien en ce case-là)... mais si tu me permets une sugestion:
Il vaut mieux d'écrire les chordes mineurs avec des petites lettres (ex.: IV mineur = iv; II mineur = ii, etc.); ça va être plus elucidatif...
À bientôt!
lecasteloes 1 year ago
Amazing !!!
BRAVO !!!
Very Funny !
gustavotuba 1 year ago
¡Maravilloso! Superb!
HernanDiego 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Qui est le pianiste?
ferbr1 1 year ago
Très jolie!
ferbr1 1 year ago
V = Mischief. I have a new respect for dominant chords.
petitequinte 1 year ago
OH MY GOD. I am laughing so hard right now. That was legitimately awesome.
FredilYupigo 1 year ago
Too adorable!
reichreichreichreich 1 year ago
c tres mignon!!!!! j'aime bcp!
cookiemonkey1004 1 year ago
V?...mhm
tomatoso27 1 year ago
@tomatoso27 V is the symbol for a 5 chord. The 5 chord is also a dominant chord. Yay for music theory 1!
marchingsoutherner09 1 year ago
@marchingsoutherner09 yes, I know. What i was trying to say, is that although I like the video a lot, I agree with most of the pictures for the chords, but not about the V one.
tomatoso27 1 year ago
I love it! Thank you for doing this.
MrsHanson007 1 year ago
¡Ehhh, que divertido!
AlNissin 1 year ago
V de V marveliuex
patineuse 1 year ago
Muy original!
musicameiming 1 year ago
J'adore le I6/4? le 16/4 ist pour eine nimbly pimbly. es heisst V6/4, and Heinrich Schenkizzles ist der Meister. aber mucho kool vid. schenkst du?
TheIdofpaul 1 year ago
Jaaajaja Genial!!!
juanstill 1 year ago
ahahaha XD
animeimport 1 year ago
J'adore le I 6 !!!!!!
..................... 4
proko514 1 year ago
la carita del Iv me mata!!
gabpas1 1 year ago
Das war das erste Stück, das ich von Mozart gespielt habe :)
aurifex1994 1 year ago
Nice idea. Enjoyed it.
TheVisualMusicShow 1 year ago
Comment removed
tubaguy 1 year ago
Comment removed
tubaguy 1 year ago
C'est adorable!
LadyWoodlark 1 year ago
I love it! Thank you for posting this.
1KatMusic 1 year ago
buenisismo siga asi parcero
RACSOMG13 1 year ago
Fan du premier degré !! :')
Takara3 1 year ago
Bravo! C'est tellement mignon, ça, et je l'aime bien :)
zainshariff 1 year ago
Awesome!!! :D
missmusictube 1 year ago
BRAVOOOOOO TROPPP FORT!!! do more please! this is too cute!
TamadeitzEunice 1 year ago
JAJAJAJA amazing!!
rossinimeaburre 1 year ago
Juaaaaaaa. Qué caras y cuántos prejuicios con los modos :P
Aldyx08 1 year ago
genial!
alvarobitran 1 year ago
jajjajaja muy bueno!
gasparrena 1 year ago
J'adooore !
LelioRiccoboni 1 year ago
Süüüüüüß!!!
Schizling 1 year ago
HAHAAHAH je me doutais donc bien que ça ne pouvait provenir que de Zviane !
ovniweb 1 year ago