Honda safety

[390merc65]

its funny to see all of this..but does anyone realize that ford had anti lock brakes back in the early 1970's?..no probably not...or chevy offered air bags in the early 1970's//nop..i guess everyone forgot that also ...everyone is to busy patting toyota and honda on their backs and it was americans who actually came out in the 1970's with safety equipment..

[alexkvaskov]

@390merc65 You're absolutely right, GM and Ford had their days when they had money and engineering talent. But the execs got comfy (especially at GM and Chrysler) with past successes (as well as GM's 45% market share in 1978) which essentially had them saying "first, so why try harder?"

This contributed to many, if not most of their failings in the following 20-25 years; what with the public's perception of GM today, it will be years before they get people on board, even with quality products

[alexkvaskov]

But look at what effective management can do for a company - Ford has been producing competitive products in Europe for the past 10 years and has introduced a raft of competitive vehicles stateside within the last two years.

GM's intentions on turning around have seen competitive vehicles introduced, and they seem to have no plans on slowing down. Even Chrysler is scrambling to get something done.

But like I already mentioned, it will be the public perception the most difficult to change.

[390merc65]

@alexkvaskov yes i agree,.but i was basically saying how the american public doesnt know..or seems to forget what the american car companys have done..they have been straddled with the idea over the last 20+ years of being junk and i really think that is not 100% true..because if that was the case why do ppl still have a hard time explaining to me why you still see more 20/30 year old american cars on the road to imports ..so that tells me that they are not all that bad..and i own 2 of them

[MrCcrowley11]

Volvo beat Honda to everything in the video. Volvo had their SIPS (Side Impact Protecton System) safey cage standard in 1991, adding side airbags in 1995 standard and curtain airbags in 1999 standard. Volvo built their "Safety Centre" first and is still better than Honda's because Volvo's has a 1 mile long track that moves on air and is reversible to crash against outside structures. Look at a late 90s Volvo 850 and a late 90s Honda Accord. It's clear which automaker is truely the safest.

[alexkvaskov]

@MrCcrowley11 I agree with you in the sense that in the 1970s and 80s, Volvo, Mercedes (as well as BMW and Audi to a certain extent) were genuine world leaders in safety, innovation and reliability. But the times have changed since then. Cheaper vehicles are offering all of the same safety features, from airbags to ESC;

the quality and reliability of cheaper, smaller vehicles have improved to the point where big, luxury marques make no financial sense for the average customer.

[alexkvaskov]

@MrCcrowley11 Not to mention the fact that the German automakers have indeed dropped in the ball in the sense if one was to compare their relative 'above-average' quality and innovation standards - Daimler's aquisition of Chrysler in the late 90s proved a disaster (for both companies I might add).

If one desires safety and quality from a vehicle these days, honestly, it makes more sense to buy a darn Hyundai Sonata Limited, get most everything an E-class has and save 30 grand.

[MrCcrowley11]

@alexkvaskov Have you driven a German/Swedish car? The solidity/fit and finish is unparalleled. The Japanese do much better than the American manufacturers but it's still not up there. Furthermore, vehicles today are doing very well in crash tests. That doesn't mean they do just as well in real world crashes. Volvo, Saab and Mercedes sends out engineers to study most of the serious accidents involving their vehicles.

[MrCcrowley11]

@alexkvaskov Have you driven a German/Swedish car? The solidity/fit and finish is unparalleled. The Japanese do much better than the American manufacturers but it's still not up there. Furthermore, vehicles today are doing very well in crash tests. That doesn't mean they do just as well in real world crashes. Volvo, Saab and Mercedes sends out engineers to study most of the serious accidents involving their vehicles.

[alexkvaskov]

@MrCcrowley11 I have sat in the new Volvo S60 - can't say the interior warrants the premium price. But I do like the 5 series' interior.. As for Japanese interior quality, IMHO the latest models from Hyundai are much better..

[MrCcrowley11]

@alexkvaskov Granted, their safety has improved but, I was struck by a driver on the wrong side of a country road, cresting a hill, at 50mph (offset crash). I was driving my 2003 Saab 9-3 and he was driving a 2002 Kia Spectra, both very similar in size. I had some bad bruises from the seat belt and was very shaken up but, I walked away. The other driver had very serious injuries, as the passenger compartment was no more. The fire department had to use the jaws of life, where my doors worked fine

[alexkvaskov]

@MrCcrowley11 Hey, I never said older Hyundai's were safe ;)

As for Honda, I recommend you check out this one video here on YT, where a previous generation Accord is subjected to an offset impact at 60mph from a Dodge Ram - the Accord held up very well.

I daresay Hyundai's 2010+ models would hold up just as well..

[MrCcrowley11]

@alexkvaskov Cars are doing much better in crash tests today, and that's a good thing for everyone. However, doing well in a crash test and doing well in the real world are two different things, as I mentioned above. One thing that often gets overlooked is seat back failure. Most of the big European brands (BMW, Mercedes, Volvo, Saab, Audi, Volkswagen) test their seat strength with real dummies. Japanese, Korean and American brands do not.

[MrCcrowley11]

@alexkvaskov They only meet the Federal standard, which is from the 1960s and is very weak. An alumium lawn chair would pass, and it would fold backward in a mild (15mph) rear-end collision, forcing the front occupants into the backseat. Infants have been killed and the front occupants have been left paralyzed, as their neck breaks. Japanese, Korean and American cars have had this problem up until very recently. They use cheap hinges and aluminum tubing in the seats.

[tamilsuzukiagain]

good video but y do u hate 1997fordprobegt

[alexkvaskov]

@tamilsuzukiagain lulz i don't "hate" brian/spencer or whatever the hell he calls himself these days, but there are plenty of reason why any reasonable person would dislike him

[tamilsuzukiagain]

@alexkvaskov y?

[alexkvaskov]

@tamilsuzukiagain would you like someone flipping out on your for no reason every few weeks, then apologizing and then flipping out again and blocking you?

[jaffacake1578]

aaah what happened to the old song???

[alexkvaskov]

@jaffacake1578 i can put it back, both are from audioswap

[jaffacake1578]

@landstrasse36 yes it was

[alexkvaskov]

@jaffacake1578 Wrong, it was the TL in 2004. Also the Acura RL also got a "Good" in 2005.

[nanakeyks]

vtech is the best thing honda ever did

[Ali2m]

song?

[alexkvaskov]

epic 001 by ming and fs

[jaffacake1578]

by the way acura are owned by ford so is mercury lincon and volvo, but i think that is why it got one of the top safety picks, because the 2008 ford taurus did...

they share the same safety systems as ford...

also ford are the car to earn more five star awards than any other brand in the U.S (don't belive me??? then check out the 2008 taurus crash test and click on the top video...it should be a white car) p.s cool video and i like the music...what is the name of the tune please???

[FuzzyBearofDeath]

I just saw a commercial talking about Acura being the first automaker to ever make all models with top safety picks or something like that.

[27riccioconroe]

Thanks alot! I SUBBED

[alexkvaskov]

thanks! :D

[Heatran222]

Thanks!

[alexkvaskov]

no prob :)

[27riccioconroe]

alexkvaskov, how are you?

Okay, I want your brain to answer this question:

Is the Honda Odyssey (2009) safer than the Toyota Sienna (2009)?

The Honda Odyssey scored better on the rear end crash test than the Sienna, and has a 5/5 rating for driver's frontal, while the Sienna has a 4/5.

The Honda Odyssey has a Top Safety Pick and the Toyota Sienna doesn't. Then, obviously, if there isn't some other hidden data that proves that the Sienna is safer, isn't the Odyssey the safer one of the two?

[27riccioconroe]

I ask you, because I believe your intelligence levels are higher than some other guy I know, whom believes that the Toyota Sienna is safer.

Thanks for any responses.

[Heatran222]

Yo, this is great. I support for Honda! Love the music! Who is it made by?

[alexkvaskov]

the artist is Ming+FS, the song Epic 001

[ventureandcivic]

hondas are really fucking safe, and very gooooooooooood, I want a 2000 honda accord v6, my father sold the 2000 civic X(

[Toyotaminivans]

Suzuki was rated the 3rd worst in reliability, outdoing Land Rover and Chrysler,

[toyotaeatsgmhondavw]

but the grand vitara is a good car. so was the cultus

[alexkvaskov]

riight!

[toyotaeatsgmhondavw]

i like suzuki, so does geometroman94

[alexkvaskov]

do i care no

[Toyotaminivans]

Why did you take me off your friends list?

[alexkvaskov]

i did?

accident i guess

add me again

[EpiDemic117]

HONDA IS THE FUCKING BEST! I own one and this is the only brand i will stick with. No Garbage motors, or Fix or repair daily, or crapler. its honda all the way. I love the companys history to.

[alexkvaskov]

fuck yeah man

[raterupper]

5*s if I could rate ^^

[alexkvaskov]

thanks dude

[Power2Cadillac]

Toyota and Honda are definitely the leaders of reliability and quality...

[alexkvaskov]

for sure dude

[FrontalTraction]

Why censor ratings?

[alexkvaskov]

so honda haters and other idiots don't ruin it

[toyotacooper]

I personally do think Hondas are safe cars, but hate the fact that in frontal accidents, that have nothing to do with side crashes, the side airbags randomly go off. Talk about purposely deploying the side airbags just to make a few extra bucks. I know that they do it so people's arms don't go out of the side, but they usually don't, and if they do the person is usually unrestrained.

[alexkvaskov]

no that is a good safety feature as it helps if the occupant is unrestrained

and it also prevents the occupants' heads from hitting the pillars

[whattheheck1000]

I agree. Side airbags are only helpful in side crashes.

[alexkvaskov]

no dude they are also useful sometimes in front impacts

[firedemon101]

Cool video but i don't think the part with the civic and the accord was correct

[alexkvaskov]

that's what i read

[firedemon101]

the modus is compact well mini lol and it has all those thing standard

[alexkvaskov]

what about the accord

[firedemon101]

the megane

[carexpertandy]

wow, this is all very interesting

[alexkvaskov]

lol

[FatGuyWithAShotgun]

*plugs ears* la la la la la i like camaros la la la la la la chev ah lay la la la

[alexkvaskov]

lol! :)

still those are facts and i just like honda

so just respect my personal opinion tis all

[FatGuyWithAShotgun]

i had a civic and i loved that car... until i got my first camaro. nah for real it was cool and fun to drive but damn that 305 was a bit funner than the v tec.

[alexkvaskov]

def man

besides how can a 1.5L be fun lol

civics aren't meant to be fun

the new si is not bad though

[FatGuyWithAShotgun]

it was the sohc vtec, is that a 1.5L?