@rusher38 no shit... its not like i hate v8s. im driving a 454 right now. but i know its place. and really? its youtube.. who gives a shit about grammar on youtube. i get enough of that in school
@nogooddisplayname "Who cares about grammar on Youtube?" Such a common thing to say for those who are inept in the English language. Everyone says that. All of you dumb asses come on here because you did not speak well at your job interview; now your only way to waste time is to sit on the internet and show the world how dumb you are!
@rusher38 holy shit... I. DONT. CARE. ur...ya i said ur... freakin worthless. go get a life... a real youtube badass we have here ladies and gentlemen.
the people driving this car don't know how lucky they are to drive it. i would give almost anything to be able to do one lap in this car. too bad i will never in my lifetime be able to chunk out the dough to convince mazda to let me drive it. DAMNNN BEING A POOR CAR ENTHUSIAST!!!!!!!!!
@Ekmurl So if it races at Le Mans it will get banned like his big brother, because Mazda made a car that was too good..... 787B and Furai are gods _O_
I couldn't care less about any problems she has, I mean look at her, you tell me you've seen anything so stunning since the Jag E-type and I'll eat my own balls. You've no idea how bad I want one and I know it's only a concept car but how many of them do you see being ran round Laguna, Mazda would be out of their minds not to make her into a production super/hypercar. She'd piss all over the Veyron and look awesome doing it
veyron have 1000hp (limited) factory setting to allow stupid richman to drive carefully, It can produce over 2000hp if remapping air-flow, ignition timing and remove rev limit, haha, kick your ass pixuma...
why would they limit the power if their goal was to achieve fastest production car when they need all the HP they can get to get it up to that speed, they were barely achieveing it, if there was more available why not open it up?
where are you getting your "Facts" from, ibnujohari?
It is limited dumbass. how bout you research before talking. they obviously dont have enough power becasue the cars heavy as fuck and apparently an nobody company from america can modify a chevy v8 and make a car that hits 257 on a 2 mile highway
again, presumption. I have seen a SSC, all my friends know what it means, we know isn't not carrol shelby. You're just a know it all who wants to seem cool on the internet
You sir are the know it all. You and your friends knowing about a company doesnt mean anything. Please call me when it becomes as popular as any supercar company.
I'm narrow minded because i refuse to believe that Aero will be popular. Read your post' you're a hypocrite. I get you only 10, but learn what a contradiction is and stop.
YOU are narrow minded. People all over the world had a countach on their wall, same with a diablo and still with the murcielago and gallardo. SSC's one car has nowhere near the advancements that bugatti had and was nowhere near the price and got nowhere near the hype. People still call this a kit car.
Maybe if you werent so thick headed I wouldnt have to throw out so many examples which may or may not make sense! I am a fan of the aero but it is ridiculous to say that they are as popular or well known as lamborghini. The SSC was only made to make a name for SSC which it didnt do very well because it had to follow the bugattis act. Not everybody is as smart or well learned as you and I bet it wouldnt be hard to find 1 million people who believe lamborghinis cost 1 million dollars
the veyron was a success with popularity straight away-the ssc is old fashioned looking,its probably just like the good old amerian car-fast in a straight line,shit in the corners,plastic interior and just over the fact that the VEYRON is better
If you like Mazda, then you like their Aero, they are going to put these concept designs in all their later designs, just look at the new Mazda 6, 3 , 5 and 2.
ohh really? u guys forgot about the beast, BUGATI VEYRON? guys come on no production car till date in this world can beat a veyron. veyron is pure power 110% power.
Sure, it beats everything on a hugely long strip of straight road, but you only have to look at Top Gear's supercar lap times to see that it's not the fastest around a track, not by a long shot. And Top Gear's track FAVOURS horsepower, seeing as it contains a lot of long, dead straight runway.
who cares about bugatti, bugatti is not a track car. well you can take it to track but that design is like a honda civic, so aerodynamic is not that good, and it's heavy weight makes it all worse (less prone to aerodynamics such as drag and downforce). so pretty much the heavy weight is for speed.
You can quote meaningless stats about weight all you like but the FACT is the Veyron is faster around the top gear track than an Enzo, Carrera GT, Maserati MC12, Ford GT, Maclaren SLR, Corvette Z06 and Murciélago LP670-4 SuperVeloce. There are only 5 cars they have tested out of over 170 which were faster than the Veyon so that makes it one of the greatest track cars in the history of motoring quite frankly.
There are 6 cars faster. None of those cars come even close to the price of the bugatti and none of the cars that are faster are anywhere near that price. All these nobody companies are easily beating bugatti
You cant seriously be trying to say the SSC is a better car?
The Veyron makes the SSC look like a heap of agricultural shit. If they stripped all of the luxurys out of the Veyron like the SSC it would blow the Aero away.
The SSC needs far more power to go really fast on a one off event even though its a stripped down lightweight while the Veyron can do it in luxury with less power with ANYBODY driving. THATS good engineering, something the US motor trade knows nothing about.
That's not entirely true though.. The US DOES make a faster car.. and you would know it if you watch Top Gear.. i just forgot the name of it!! haha ;)
There is the SS2 Ultimate Aero which once did something like 3 mph faster than the Veyron on a straight but around a track it would be blown away by most other supercars.
No it wouldnt. The veyrons got a W16 which is probably twice the weight off the bat. HAve you seen the SSC's interior? what more could you want? The verons just an ugly car made up of old VW parts. The SSC hit 257 on a 2 mile HIGHWAY not VW's huge paved raceway. it has more horsepower and still gets 20mpg! The veyron maxes out at 250 but the SSC has hit over 270. and thats last years model. Good engineering? Ive seen more new german cars at repair shops that any other car. 3 brand new audis
the problem with the rotary, ingenious design or not, is its fragility. the sandwich construction causes weak points between the housings allowing water seals to blow out and warping to occur with even slight overheating. and rotaries create massive amounts of heat compounding the problem. in addition to make power with a rotary you either have to rev it to the moon, or turbocharge it, this is because rotaries are inherently low compression engines.
You're forgetting the torque and that they ignite in less revolutions than your average piston engine. Also, the cars they are in are relatively light and aerodynamic and thus achieve very high speeds. Power isn't everything, although rotaries are actually quite powerful. Oh, and I'd like to compare the reliability of a mazda rotary to that of your average american car. I know which one I place my money on.
"You're forgetting the torque" torque? rotaries are very low torque motors.
"Power isn't everything" power is everything when your talking about motors. Motor A makes more power than motor B. So from a performance perspective Motor A is the better motor.
"although rotaries are actually quite powerful."
the most powerful rotary pwoered car in the US was the FD at 255-260hp. the most powerful production rotary car was the FD and Cosmo in japan at 276hp. these are not "powerful" cars.
1.6 liter what? makes less than 260hp? what 5-6liter V8's are you comparing it to? there are plenty of low power V8's out there and comparing a newer/modified small displacement motor to the lowest power V8 you can find is just moronic. I agrantee your 1.6 whatever it is can NOT compete with a modern V8 such as the LS1/2/3/6/7/9.
As for American car or rotary powered car. Your not comparing types of motors. Some American cars are unreliable because of cost cutting. not because actual design. Rotaries are unreliable due to actual motor DESIGN.. I'll put my money on the more reliable PROVEN design over a rotary any day, all other things being equal.
Get your typical american mentality of "bigger is better" and shove it where the sun don't shine. Do it with your attitude too. Take a standard RX7 and your average standard V8 and lets see who wins. Just to put it in perspective, my 180HP 1.6L 4 cylinder toyota piston engine (standard) regularly matches 1/4 mile times of your average 5L V8 over here in Australia. Its one thing to be patriotic, but dont shove your "superiority" down others throats. That's why America is so globally disliked.
Take your unwarranted American stereotypes elsewhere. I own 2 RX-7's, and Japanese midsize truck, and a Japanese bike. but to your quote. "bigger is better" when it comes to engine's and power , it is true. you make more power with more displacement. and seeing as LS series engines weigh within 30lbs of the 13brew and make way more power, way more torque, get better gas mileage, and are way more reliable. bigger really is better.
I still cannot fully agree with the "bigger is better" mentality. After all, as I said before, I've been beating V8s with ~280hp quite regularly. You also only have to look at the HKS drag skyline that has well over 1000 horses and does 7s runs, with 2.8L of displacement. You also can't compare reliability here, with times under 8s reliability is pretty much out the window no matter what engine you have.
"I still cannot fully agree" it is w/out question people do alot with little. but the fact is, you can do more w/ more. you can make 1khp in street legal trim with a V8 in the in California, a state with some of the most stringent emissions laws in the world and it will last longer. you cannot do this with a 2.6-2.8 RB26. So if you can have a V8 with twice the displacement that weighs less (LS series motors weigh almost half as much as RB and JZ series motors) and make more power, why not?
It all comes down to preference. Personally I would prefer to have a car that goes faster than most people would assume, which generally means something small and Japanese.
your 180hp economy car is nothing compared to a real performance car. You can compare it to the slowest V8 powered cars you can find all you want to try and prove your point. fact is, even in Australia, there are plenty of V8 powered cars, new and old that demolish a 180hp 4 cylinder. and yes, most of them are powered by American motors, go figure. A 5.7 liter LS1 making 350hp, getting 25-30mpg, with 360lb-ft+ of torque, and weighing comparably to a high performance 4 cylinder really is superior
My "1.6L economy car" is an AE86 sprinter with a blacktop 20v. It happens to be one of the closest engines to race specification that comes out in a standard car and is heavily used in Japanese performance applications. I just happen to have not touched my internals, hence the mere 180hp. And sure, the V8 will beat me on a straight, but lets start turning corners.
Apologies for assuming you were a typical V8-humping yokel, but you really were starting to sound like one.
"lets start turning corners." we can bloviated about hypothetical races all we want, but there are simply too many hypothetical situations to come to any sort of reasonable conclusion. there are plenty of powerful, agile V8 cars that can out handle and out accelerate a 180hp AE86. likewise there are plenty of slow as shit V8 cars that cant handle too. What it comes down to is power to weight and, when it comes to handling, suspension setup and driver.
Veyrons actually handle quite well. I'd say about an even match on a winding track, but in a straight line 16 pistons and enough torque to spin the earth is kinda hard to beat.
You're forgetting that Veyrons are boats. They weigh on the order of 4500lbs. This car is a race car, there is NO WAY a Veyron could hope to keep pace with this car drivers being equal.
Um, do some research? Veyrons are extremely fast round a track, as in in the ballpark of zondas, ferraris and lambos. You don't think the 13 million dollars it costs to build a veyron went to waste?
at the most a veyron can pull 2 Gs round a corner where as the furai can pull 4 or 5 this shows that the furai can go round corners faster, the veyron may be just as fast in a straight line as the furai but not round a race track. veyron ROAD car, furai RACE car! which are normaly faster
4 or 5 Gs? Even formula one cars don't reach more than 1.5 lateral Gs around a corner. 4 or 5 is more like a modern day fighter jet aerial dogfight. Where the hell are you getting your figures from
I can guarantee you that it doesn't do 3 lateral Gs. I say again: Formula one cars can't pull 2. Are you saying that the furai can pull nearly twice as many Gs as a formula one car? Go back to the video games dude.
f1 cars do pull 4/5gs round a corned if you watch f1 you will c that they have a little readout that showes up on screen sometines n it tells you the Gs they are pulling and i have seen it go over way over 2 in a fast corner wat you think they do all that physical traning for. silverstone the first corner, they go round that corner at 180 mph, and they often get up 2 5gs under breaking ps dont have a games consol cant b bothered wi them lol
formula 1 hits 4 to 5 gs watch silverstone this year and istanbul has three consecutive 5 g turns and silverstone has left right 4 to 4 gs the other direction they easilly hit 4 slowing down also
Formula 1 cars hit an absolute maximum of 3.5 lateral Gs (as quoted on the official formula one website). I wasn't aware they went this high (the downforce they achieve nowadays is absolutely ridiculous). It's easy to see how there are so many different ideas of the amount of Gs they do with all of the rubbish I had to go through previously to find an accurate figure. Luckily, the official formula 1 site's figure is now at the top of the google search.
No doubt Veyrons are quick, but they are NOT in the same league as a RACECAR such as this. this car weighs. Veyrons are luxury GT's with massive amounts of power. They go around a track as well as a 4500lb GT can, but they simply cannot compete with this car (the Furai).
I never said, or even thought the veyron would beat the furai on the track. I was saying that they weren't just 2 tonne boats that were useless around corners.
the fact is the Veyron shouldn't even be brought up when talking about the Furai. its a 4500lb GT car with a large amount of power meant to look good and overpower its way to 250mph. As good as it may handle, its handling was an after thought and is in no way comparable to a car that was essentially meant to look good and handle better, as in in the league of GT1 race cars.
the car industry is changing so much and quickly, only one can really know! I do believe this car will be a peak into the future using 3 and maybe 4 rotor engines with mazda sports cars. The 20b engine will have to be less costless on maint. more simple with a lateral/ horizontal spinning rotor! This will help take a big part of gravity out of the equation. Less expensive more power to ya! Alternative fuel engine might be the case.
that is one sick engine! that sounds are wicked. much better noise produce than britney does. don't talk about fuel consumption when you want a powerful fast car. its common sense.
one could never tell with fuel and the wacky economy wether this car will make it or another like it but less expensive to maintain. faith is really all we have!!
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it wont be a practical sports car for the street. Ever. This was a concept created by adding a carbon fibre body to an existing race car, to lift the profile of Mazda in the USA.
Well.. ok.. if you say so. Do some research, and you'll see that what I have said is true, as much as I'd still like to buy one to sit next to my FD RX-7 if it ever did see the street :)
Guys, your aiming way too low with the price tag. I expect this would exceed the cost of a veyron, not only because of the sheer exclusivity of the car, but the running costs would be phenominal. Simular costs to a formula one, but never would be/could be a production car. Shame, would love to nip out to the shops and pull up in this!
They aren't on the market yet, they are just a concept but most like its just going to be the next gen race car....but if they were for sale they would be in the 100K easy
sounds like the grudge
xdiepx 4 months ago
Not usually a fan of Japanese cars but this Furai is completely badass.
Congrats to Mazda for a well-conceived concept car.
triplexxxsatyr 6 months ago
@AB1racing that bugatti veyron couldnt race that furai...it would blow its engine b4 it wins lol!:)
NineTailedNarutoFoxB 6 months ago
1 person is a unuck....lol!!!
TheRotaryRules 11 months ago
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sounds like a baby fart ... listen to some V8 Big Blocks .... THAT'S the Shit !!!
Padge92 1 year ago
@Padge92 to bad this will smoke em all
nogooddisplayname 11 months ago
@nogooddisplayname Too bad your grammar sucks.
I bet you wouldn't even be able to afford a Furai if they were made commercially. ;)
rusher38 5 months ago
@rusher38 no shit... its not like i hate v8s. im driving a 454 right now. but i know its place. and really? its youtube.. who gives a shit about grammar on youtube. i get enough of that in school
nogooddisplayname 5 months ago
@nogooddisplayname "Who cares about grammar on Youtube?" Such a common thing to say for those who are inept in the English language. Everyone says that. All of you dumb asses come on here because you did not speak well at your job interview; now your only way to waste time is to sit on the internet and show the world how dumb you are!
rusher38 5 months ago
@rusher38 argueing with a 17 yr old... your freakin cool dude. go shove it up ur ass.
nogooddisplayname 5 months ago
@nogooddisplayname Arguing instead of argueing, year instead of yr, you're instead of your, your instead of ur.
Oh ya, I'm 17.
rusher38 5 months ago
@nogooddisplayname Arguing instead of argueing, year instead of yr, you're instead of your, your instead of ur.
Oh ya, I'm 17.
rusher38 5 months ago
@rusher38 holy shit... I. DONT. CARE. ur...ya i said ur... freakin worthless. go get a life... a real youtube badass we have here ladies and gentlemen.
nogooddisplayname 5 months ago
@nogooddisplayname Go get a life? *I* actually race cars at nearby circuits. I tune them up myself as well.
rusher38 5 months ago
@rusher38 um... thank you?
nogooddisplayname 5 months ago
@Padge92 uhuh...
juppe007 9 months ago
epic....i was speechless when i first saw this car! true MAZDA! "tears of joy" lol
HangDangles 1 year ago
@AB1racing yea, and thats why Mazda employs mechanical engineers, not mechanics like yourself.
reavrr 1 year ago
radical will smoke this think for fraction of the price.
MrRandomWindstorm 1 year ago
@MrRandomWindstorm L.O.L.
untouchabledriver87 1 year ago
the people driving this car don't know how lucky they are to drive it. i would give almost anything to be able to do one lap in this car. too bad i will never in my lifetime be able to chunk out the dough to convince mazda to let me drive it. DAMNNN BEING A POOR CAR ENTHUSIAST!!!!!!!!!
D16y7nonvtec 1 year ago
i think furai is the new 787B :D
Ekmurl 1 year ago
@Ekmurl So if it races at Le Mans it will get banned like his big brother, because Mazda made a car that was too good..... 787B and Furai are gods _O_
Ponkiizz 1 year ago
@Ponkiizz yea.. So pathetic.. furai could win easily~
Ekmurl 1 year ago
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@Ponkiizz yea.. so pathetic they are.. :)
Ekmurl 1 year ago
I couldn't care less about any problems she has, I mean look at her, you tell me you've seen anything so stunning since the Jag E-type and I'll eat my own balls. You've no idea how bad I want one and I know it's only a concept car but how many of them do you see being ran round Laguna, Mazda would be out of their minds not to make her into a production super/hypercar. She'd piss all over the Veyron and look awesome doing it
Numbnuts2163 1 year ago
How to check an engine for fine tuning. Just block your ear (like that mechanic did) and let your mechanic's ear do the analysis.
You can't buy an ear like that and I don't have......THAT TOUCH!
All bow to the race mechanics....3...2......1.........and.....bow!
skp1970 1 year ago
I would steal that car. lol
stefanosrachi 1 year ago
Mazda really needs to get back to their roots. The only rotary's they have now are the 2-Rotor RX-8 and this.
Ke7ch 1 year ago
@Ke7ch yeah im sure they would if Ford would let them
Feralspirit15 1 year ago
This is by far the most bad ass car i've ever seen in my life.
captainjosue 1 year ago
I like how it has the same number as the le man champion 787B.
MazdaArai 2 years ago 2
Geez... everyone in this post needs to calm the hell down...
mrskyking737 2 years ago
Mazda are the business and I hope they make this car for others to enjoy. I would bow if this rolled by.
mostillrx 2 years ago 22
I would bow and pray! So i can maybe get myself one later ^^
gielfransen 2 years ago 2
I love this car....*sigh*
mentor2506 2 years ago
oh my jesus =]
khenry1991 2 years ago
i dislike all the people talking about a FKING veyron or ssc
watch the video or go on a forum to discuss fking bullshit k thnx
stepxunit 2 years ago 6
but ssc cant drive on regural fuel so that doesnt count
iowne30 2 years ago
uhh yes you can. All supercars take premium fuel
FlyingAero 2 years ago
the motor would melt and the car could not support the power for more than a few min.
mentor2506 2 years ago
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veyron have 1000hp (limited) factory setting to allow stupid richman to drive carefully, It can produce over 2000hp if remapping air-flow, ignition timing and remove rev limit, haha, kick your ass pixuma...
ibnujohari 2 years ago
why would they limit the power if their goal was to achieve fastest production car when they need all the HP they can get to get it up to that speed, they were barely achieveing it, if there was more available why not open it up?
where are you getting your "Facts" from, ibnujohari?
pixuma 2 years ago 3
It is limited dumbass. how bout you research before talking. they obviously dont have enough power becasue the cars heavy as fuck and apparently an nobody company from america can modify a chevy v8 and make a car that hits 257 on a 2 mile highway
FlyingAero 2 years ago
I wouldn't say SSC (Shelby Super Cars) is a nobody company.
mentor2506 2 years ago
Nobody has head of them. they dont have the status of other car makers
FlyingAero 2 years ago
who are you to say what other people have and have not heard of? You are acting like a "know-it-all"; stop
mentor2506 2 years ago
Because I state the facts? or because you cant handle them?
FlyingAero 2 years ago
again, presumption. I have seen a SSC, all my friends know what it means, we know isn't not carrol shelby. You're just a know it all who wants to seem cool on the internet
mentor2506 2 years ago
You sir are the know it all. You and your friends knowing about a company doesnt mean anything. Please call me when it becomes as popular as any supercar company.
FlyingAero 2 years ago
okay, what's your phone number? I'll call you all day
mentor2506 2 years ago
539-0239. A simple google search shows that lamborghini is at least 15 times more popular than SSC. Just accept the facts
FlyingAero 2 years ago
what the fuck does that have anything to do with it. That just means more sites had the word lambo in them than SSC.
YOU'RE A FUCKING RETARDED ASS LOSER! CHILDISH LITTLE BASTARD. BELIEVE WHAT YOU WILL. some people still deny the Holocaust
mentor2506 2 years ago
Your probably one of them. You are the most narrow minded person if you think that the Aero is or will be anywhere near as popular as a lamborghini.
FlyingAero 2 years ago
I'm narrow minded because i refuse to believe that Aero will be popular. Read your post' you're a hypocrite. I get you only 10, but learn what a contradiction is and stop.
mentor2506 2 years ago
YOU are narrow minded. People all over the world had a countach on their wall, same with a diablo and still with the murcielago and gallardo. SSC's one car has nowhere near the advancements that bugatti had and was nowhere near the price and got nowhere near the hype. People still call this a kit car.
FlyingAero 2 years ago
1) prove it
2) you're a contradicting moron who cann't properly express it's ideas.
3) you are narrow minded because you refuse to give Aero a chance. They've only been around for a few years after all.
4) If you cannot drive, then you need to stop acting like you know every damn thing.
5) FUCK A POSTER ON MY WALL as proof of success. You didn't learn anything in this financial disaster the world is having.
mentor2506 2 years ago
Maybe if you werent so thick headed I wouldnt have to throw out so many examples which may or may not make sense! I am a fan of the aero but it is ridiculous to say that they are as popular or well known as lamborghini. The SSC was only made to make a name for SSC which it didnt do very well because it had to follow the bugattis act. Not everybody is as smart or well learned as you and I bet it wouldnt be hard to find 1 million people who believe lamborghinis cost 1 million dollars
FlyingAero 2 years ago
the veyron was a success with popularity straight away-the ssc is old fashioned looking,its probably just like the good old amerian car-fast in a straight line,shit in the corners,plastic interior and just over the fact that the VEYRON is better
aerlingus18 2 years ago
If you like Mazda, then you like their Aero, they are going to put these concept designs in all their later designs, just look at the new Mazda 6, 3 , 5 and 2.
gielfransen 2 years ago
prove it
rotor13 2 years ago
hmmm, yep ur true. but how abt the ariel atom, in terms of accelration tat car is so damn amazing!!!
atlas9online 2 years ago
ohh really? u guys forgot about the beast, BUGATI VEYRON? guys come on no production car till date in this world can beat a veyron. veyron is pure power 110% power.
atlas9online 2 years ago
Sure, it beats everything on a hugely long strip of straight road, but you only have to look at Top Gear's supercar lap times to see that it's not the fastest around a track, not by a long shot. And Top Gear's track FAVOURS horsepower, seeing as it contains a lot of long, dead straight runway.
Adovansu 2 years ago
who cares about bugatti, bugatti is not a track car. well you can take it to track but that design is like a honda civic, so aerodynamic is not that good, and it's heavy weight makes it all worse (less prone to aerodynamics such as drag and downforce). so pretty much the heavy weight is for speed.
kenjigraphics 2 years ago 2
You can quote meaningless stats about weight all you like but the FACT is the Veyron is faster around the top gear track than an Enzo, Carrera GT, Maserati MC12, Ford GT, Maclaren SLR, Corvette Z06 and Murciélago LP670-4 SuperVeloce. There are only 5 cars they have tested out of over 170 which were faster than the Veyon so that makes it one of the greatest track cars in the history of motoring quite frankly.
Jellyform 2 years ago
There are 6 cars faster. None of those cars come even close to the price of the bugatti and none of the cars that are faster are anywhere near that price. All these nobody companies are easily beating bugatti
FlyingAero 2 years ago
google the SSC Ultimate Aero
veyron needed 16 cylinders and 4 turbos to produce 1001hp
SSC Aero needed 8 cylinders and 2 turbos to produce a bit over 1500 hp
pixuma 2 years ago 2
You cant seriously be trying to say the SSC is a better car?
The Veyron makes the SSC look like a heap of agricultural shit. If they stripped all of the luxurys out of the Veyron like the SSC it would blow the Aero away.
The SSC needs far more power to go really fast on a one off event even though its a stripped down lightweight while the Veyron can do it in luxury with less power with ANYBODY driving. THATS good engineering, something the US motor trade knows nothing about.
Jellyform 2 years ago
That's not entirely true though.. The US DOES make a faster car.. and you would know it if you watch Top Gear.. i just forgot the name of it!! haha ;)
Lucatastrophy 2 years ago
There is the SS2 Ultimate Aero which once did something like 3 mph faster than the Veyron on a straight but around a track it would be blown away by most other supercars.
Jellyform 2 years ago
Word.. When it comes to handling.. an american car would never be mentioned.
Lucatastrophy 2 years ago 3
False
FlyingAero 2 years ago
No it wouldnt. The veyrons got a W16 which is probably twice the weight off the bat. HAve you seen the SSC's interior? what more could you want? The verons just an ugly car made up of old VW parts. The SSC hit 257 on a 2 mile HIGHWAY not VW's huge paved raceway. it has more horsepower and still gets 20mpg! The veyron maxes out at 250 but the SSC has hit over 270. and thats last years model. Good engineering? Ive seen more new german cars at repair shops that any other car. 3 brand new audis
FlyingAero 2 years ago
I love that car
JuanPapaNicolao 2 years ago
the problem with the rotary, ingenious design or not, is its fragility. the sandwich construction causes weak points between the housings allowing water seals to blow out and warping to occur with even slight overheating. and rotaries create massive amounts of heat compounding the problem. in addition to make power with a rotary you either have to rev it to the moon, or turbocharge it, this is because rotaries are inherently low compression engines.
li7in6 3 years ago
just one word...torgue. but i love them rotaries !
the sound man i love it !!
Berzerkka 2 years ago
You're forgetting the torque and that they ignite in less revolutions than your average piston engine. Also, the cars they are in are relatively light and aerodynamic and thus achieve very high speeds. Power isn't everything, although rotaries are actually quite powerful. Oh, and I'd like to compare the reliability of a mazda rotary to that of your average american car. I know which one I place my money on.
Adovansu 2 years ago
"You're forgetting the torque" torque? rotaries are very low torque motors.
"Power isn't everything" power is everything when your talking about motors. Motor A makes more power than motor B. So from a performance perspective Motor A is the better motor.
"although rotaries are actually quite powerful."
the most powerful rotary pwoered car in the US was the FD at 255-260hp. the most powerful production rotary car was the FD and Cosmo in japan at 276hp. these are not "powerful" cars.
li7in6 2 years ago
My 1.6 develops less torque and power than an rx7, but still matches 5-6L V8s. Yes, power counts, but only if you use it efficiently.
Adovansu 2 years ago
1.6 liter what? makes less than 260hp? what 5-6liter V8's are you comparing it to? there are plenty of low power V8's out there and comparing a newer/modified small displacement motor to the lowest power V8 you can find is just moronic. I agrantee your 1.6 whatever it is can NOT compete with a modern V8 such as the LS1/2/3/6/7/9.
li7in6 2 years ago
As for American car or rotary powered car. Your not comparing types of motors. Some American cars are unreliable because of cost cutting. not because actual design. Rotaries are unreliable due to actual motor DESIGN.. I'll put my money on the more reliable PROVEN design over a rotary any day, all other things being equal.
li7in6 2 years ago
Get your typical american mentality of "bigger is better" and shove it where the sun don't shine. Do it with your attitude too. Take a standard RX7 and your average standard V8 and lets see who wins. Just to put it in perspective, my 180HP 1.6L 4 cylinder toyota piston engine (standard) regularly matches 1/4 mile times of your average 5L V8 over here in Australia. Its one thing to be patriotic, but dont shove your "superiority" down others throats. That's why America is so globally disliked.
Adovansu 2 years ago
Take your unwarranted American stereotypes elsewhere. I own 2 RX-7's, and Japanese midsize truck, and a Japanese bike. but to your quote. "bigger is better" when it comes to engine's and power , it is true. you make more power with more displacement. and seeing as LS series engines weigh within 30lbs of the 13brew and make way more power, way more torque, get better gas mileage, and are way more reliable. bigger really is better.
li7in6 2 years ago
I still cannot fully agree with the "bigger is better" mentality. After all, as I said before, I've been beating V8s with ~280hp quite regularly. You also only have to look at the HKS drag skyline that has well over 1000 horses and does 7s runs, with 2.8L of displacement. You also can't compare reliability here, with times under 8s reliability is pretty much out the window no matter what engine you have.
Adovansu 2 years ago
"I still cannot fully agree" it is w/out question people do alot with little. but the fact is, you can do more w/ more. you can make 1khp in street legal trim with a V8 in the in California, a state with some of the most stringent emissions laws in the world and it will last longer. you cannot do this with a 2.6-2.8 RB26. So if you can have a V8 with twice the displacement that weighs less (LS series motors weigh almost half as much as RB and JZ series motors) and make more power, why not?
li7in6 2 years ago
It all comes down to preference. Personally I would prefer to have a car that goes faster than most people would assume, which generally means something small and Japanese.
Adovansu 2 years ago
less rpms
na6drifter 2 years ago
your 180hp economy car is nothing compared to a real performance car. You can compare it to the slowest V8 powered cars you can find all you want to try and prove your point. fact is, even in Australia, there are plenty of V8 powered cars, new and old that demolish a 180hp 4 cylinder. and yes, most of them are powered by American motors, go figure. A 5.7 liter LS1 making 350hp, getting 25-30mpg, with 360lb-ft+ of torque, and weighing comparably to a high performance 4 cylinder really is superior
li7in6 2 years ago
My "1.6L economy car" is an AE86 sprinter with a blacktop 20v. It happens to be one of the closest engines to race specification that comes out in a standard car and is heavily used in Japanese performance applications. I just happen to have not touched my internals, hence the mere 180hp. And sure, the V8 will beat me on a straight, but lets start turning corners.
Apologies for assuming you were a typical V8-humping yokel, but you really were starting to sound like one.
Adovansu 2 years ago
"lets start turning corners." we can bloviated about hypothetical races all we want, but there are simply too many hypothetical situations to come to any sort of reasonable conclusion. there are plenty of powerful, agile V8 cars that can out handle and out accelerate a 180hp AE86. likewise there are plenty of slow as shit V8 cars that cant handle too. What it comes down to is power to weight and, when it comes to handling, suspension setup and driver.
li7in6 2 years ago
Lets just agree that the person with the most driving skill, technological knowledge and money will win, whatever they may choose to drive.
Adovansu 2 years ago
Couldn't have said it any better.
FukU2222 2 years ago
that could smoke a bugatti anytime on the track
NineTailedNarutoFoxB 3 years ago
on a track yes bugattis dont handle good so on track yes drag race never
lespaulzmm 2 years ago
Veyrons actually handle quite well. I'd say about an even match on a winding track, but in a straight line 16 pistons and enough torque to spin the earth is kinda hard to beat.
Adovansu 2 years ago
You're forgetting that Veyrons are boats. They weigh on the order of 4500lbs. This car is a race car, there is NO WAY a Veyron could hope to keep pace with this car drivers being equal.
li7in6 2 years ago
Um, do some research? Veyrons are extremely fast round a track, as in in the ballpark of zondas, ferraris and lambos. You don't think the 13 million dollars it costs to build a veyron went to waste?
Adovansu 2 years ago
at the most a veyron can pull 2 Gs round a corner where as the furai can pull 4 or 5 this shows that the furai can go round corners faster, the veyron may be just as fast in a straight line as the furai but not round a race track. veyron ROAD car, furai RACE car! which are normaly faster
littleweeman22 2 years ago
4 or 5 Gs? Even formula one cars don't reach more than 1.5 lateral Gs around a corner. 4 or 5 is more like a modern day fighter jet aerial dogfight. Where the hell are you getting your figures from
Adovansu 2 years ago
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littleweeman22 2 years ago
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littleweeman22 2 years ago
well around 3 / 3.5 a nissan gtr can pull 1.5g, AND in an aerial dogfight they can go over 7g. 9gs and you would black out lol
littleweeman22 2 years ago
I can guarantee you that it doesn't do 3 lateral Gs. I say again: Formula one cars can't pull 2. Are you saying that the furai can pull nearly twice as many Gs as a formula one car? Go back to the video games dude.
Adovansu 2 years ago
f1 cars do pull 4/5gs round a corned if you watch f1 you will c that they have a little readout that showes up on screen sometines n it tells you the Gs they are pulling and i have seen it go over way over 2 in a fast corner wat you think they do all that physical traning for. silverstone the first corner, they go round that corner at 180 mph, and they often get up 2 5gs under breaking ps dont have a games consol cant b bothered wi them lol
littleweeman22 2 years ago
formula 1 hits 4 to 5 gs watch silverstone this year and istanbul has three consecutive 5 g turns and silverstone has left right 4 to 4 gs the other direction they easilly hit 4 slowing down also
oOillillOo 2 years ago
Formula 1 cars hit an absolute maximum of 3.5 lateral Gs (as quoted on the official formula one website). I wasn't aware they went this high (the downforce they achieve nowadays is absolutely ridiculous). It's easy to see how there are so many different ideas of the amount of Gs they do with all of the rubbish I had to go through previously to find an accurate figure. Luckily, the official formula 1 site's figure is now at the top of the google search.
Adovansu 2 years ago
interestig i just have been watching the g meter as they go around tracks.
oOillillOo 2 years ago
No doubt Veyrons are quick, but they are NOT in the same league as a RACECAR such as this. this car weighs. Veyrons are luxury GT's with massive amounts of power. They go around a track as well as a 4500lb GT can, but they simply cannot compete with this car (the Furai).
li7in6 2 years ago
I never said, or even thought the veyron would beat the furai on the track. I was saying that they weren't just 2 tonne boats that were useless around corners.
Adovansu 2 years ago
the fact is the Veyron shouldn't even be brought up when talking about the Furai. its a 4500lb GT car with a large amount of power meant to look good and overpower its way to 250mph. As good as it may handle, its handling was an after thought and is in no way comparable to a car that was essentially meant to look good and handle better, as in in the league of GT1 race cars.
li7in6 2 years ago
Don't look at me, I didn't bring it up.
Adovansu 2 years ago
This car is a RACE CAR, and it will beat every production car I can think of on a race track, supercar or not.
TKDWolf 2 years ago
Rotary motors are so under rated they are a ingenius design.
seroyer2 3 years ago 4
the car industry is changing so much and quickly, only one can really know! I do believe this car will be a peak into the future using 3 and maybe 4 rotor engines with mazda sports cars. The 20b engine will have to be less costless on maint. more simple with a lateral/ horizontal spinning rotor! This will help take a big part of gravity out of the equation. Less expensive more power to ya! Alternative fuel engine might be the case.
youcdtube 3 years ago
problem is they are still figuring out how to fully harness the power of one rotary, let alone 3 or 4 but give it time
leechowning 3 years ago
Mazda forever :D
refus3d 3 years ago 4
i dont like how rotorys cant idle but there rpm is amazing
rcpro17 3 years ago
that is one sick engine! that sounds are wicked. much better noise produce than britney does. don't talk about fuel consumption when you want a powerful fast car. its common sense.
ekei47 3 years ago
$1.5M minimum for this car. That's the cost just run 1 season in ALMS
Panadeeni 3 years ago
one could never tell with fuel and the wacky economy wether this car will make it or another like it but less expensive to maintain. faith is really all we have!!
youcdtube 3 years ago
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it wont be a practical sports car for the street. Ever. This was a concept created by adding a carbon fibre body to an existing race car, to lift the profile of Mazda in the USA.
vortexau 3 years ago
i could tell your not very bright
rcpro17 3 years ago 2
Well.. ok.. if you say so. Do some research, and you'll see that what I have said is true, as much as I'd still like to buy one to sit next to my FD RX-7 if it ever did see the street :)
vortexau 3 years ago
Guys, your aiming way too low with the price tag. I expect this would exceed the cost of a veyron, not only because of the sheer exclusivity of the car, but the running costs would be phenominal. Simular costs to a formula one, but never would be/could be a production car. Shame, would love to nip out to the shops and pull up in this!
waxonandoff 3 years ago
They aren't on the market yet, they are just a concept but most like its just going to be the next gen race car....but if they were for sale they would be in the 100K easy
E46man05 3 years ago
i would guess more because there probably not goina make a hole lot of em
rshintss 3 years ago
Ya much more....They've been using it in the Le mans series but I don't think they will sell them....otherwise....they would make a Lambo look cheap
E46man05 3 years ago 2
how much are they...
greengaurd 3 years ago