Zorio - develop your ideas further, into new regions. Is that not the ultimate conclusion of Kant, articulated by Hegel, that the absence of absolute truth leaves one in a perpetual state of fragmentation to that "truth"?
Your video is a brilliant expansion on fundamental epistemological problems, which, unaware to cropper, cannot guarantee the status of anything 'concrete,' not even the mute body of a dead thinker. . . there are only metaphor's with no rooting in the 'world.'
This is hauntingly beautiful. Very enjoyable to watch. The form of this video and the structure of your essay is especially appropriate. I know you say that you don't like this essay anymore, but I would strongly suggest that you keep this video up for the benefit of anyone who is interested in Baudrillard.
If Baudrillard passes for intellectual writing in the universities today, it is obvious why the layman is eternally suspicious of the value of philosophy.
Incidentally, this is the longest string on unconcretized metaphors I've ever heard. An unbroken string of nonsense.
What does it mean for a book to "roll around itself"?
Baudrillard largely isn't taught in academia, just so you know.
"Incidentally, this is the longest string on unconcretized metaphors I've ever heard. An unbroken string of nonsense."
Considering this is essentially a poem I wrote to mark Baudrillard's death, I think you've missed the point.
Also, I'd like to point out that simply throwing around the terms "concrete" and "abstractions" doesn't make you sound any smarter that when you were calling me a pin head for having read Kant.
Personally I think you all are fools, Rayn is too optimistic, Kant is too synical. Reality is understood to a midpoint. I suppose when you are on two extremes of thought; one cannot think in the context of another. We should rename you both extremist. A-extremist and K-extremist. Anyone hear of Russell? Wittgenstein? Heck, Puttnum?
I don't think zorio is pure kantian, just a certain subset of kant's philosophy. Cropper is the one who insists on puritanical discipleship of some "philosopher."
"Incidentally, this is the longest string on unconcretized metaphors I've ever heard. An unbroken string of nonsense."
Nonsense, like dropping by at random to deliver a "you suck" every once in a while? Maybe you could be reading Kant right now instead of harassing people on youtube.
dude, wherd all your videos go i needed the one where you talk about the map and how were not going insane because of the simulation etc there goes my gr12 english mark.
just say, 'the map is not the territory'. And we ARE going insane. especially you. 0_0
But seriously? You don't need to talk about Baudrillard to get a good mark in grade 12 English. I mean, that's the great thing about English. You can just make stuff up. You're an intelligent guy. Be creative.
Oh yes, interesting delivery, emotive although im not sure why? perhaps im missing something. all the same, a very delicate and well written article, i look forward to more from zorio.
Ok, i was under the impression that you were interested in strait up forgetting him as a figure, therefore opposed to romantisizing JB in any way. no?
ok, i guess his style is very much open to interpretation then.
On a seperate note, i got a lot out of your History of the Subject vids, very concise and structured in a way that sustained my appatite for your opinion.
hmm ... well the last line of this video unforutnately reminded me of the protestant/televangelist dogma that one is not saved by works but by faith (please send money to the above address). however, the Forgotten i believe is dangerous, it occupies a space beyond (beneath?) the ramparts of defense, it grows and becomes plague-like, perhaps medieval. cont.
in this view the forgotten is never really forgotten. it is simply the suppressed, and yet the remedy is not to simply "give in" to the demands of this suppressed (buried?)antagonist, but to direct it to positive ends. Easier said than done.
Alright, so above all I think this is excellent:) I think you have a wonderful prose that to great extent mimics poetry and for sure; you are a great writer. I also think I now too little to comment fully on the remarks on Baudrillards writings, but the points you make on Cool Memories seems refelected, original and well-presented cont.
It is of course a very "avantgarde" piece, not very academic, but on the other hand, more from the heart. I want to be perfectly hournest and confess that I actually felt sad after your video. This is a first. Your friendship is a privilege
I love the word, "homo-fragmentus." It fits so well what is happening to human beings within today's modern "culture." The wonderful touch of you actually becoming homo-fragmentus is...can't find the words...Thanks!
I did enjoy my last semester of undergrad. I ended up getting a lot out of my phenomenology course, as well as the course on Foucault that I took (which resulted in me and a couple of friends from the class going to a big Foucault conference in Boston). My summer plans are basically to read, write, and move for grad school.
... and post some more videos, i hope. i would love to see something about phenomenology, and others would too. i believe Derrida's dissertation was on Husserl's "Origin of Geomety," if i'm not mistaken.
Hi Z. I´ll of course comment more fully, but I have to go now, just before I forget, are you aware of the book "Forget Baudrillard?" by Turner and Rojek.
Reminds me of a statement from one of my favorite teachers when he was summarizing a statement from one of your favorite teachers: "Thinking consists of forgetting". :-)
beaulliard is a useless poetic pussy
gen6k 2 years ago
i was distracted by the poetry of it. so i forgot to say congrats on the essay and awesum song to put in the background.
this will have me thinking for awhile. good quotes on your profile too.
nagchampafreak 2 years ago
wow. thankyou
nagchampafreak 2 years ago
poetry
christophercoltrane 2 years ago
beautiful. thank you.
shannonmart 2 years ago
So I figure its all over between you and videos, at this point. What ruined the romance?
MachineLending 3 years ago
Zorio - develop your ideas further, into new regions. Is that not the ultimate conclusion of Kant, articulated by Hegel, that the absence of absolute truth leaves one in a perpetual state of fragmentation to that "truth"?
Your video is a brilliant expansion on fundamental epistemological problems, which, unaware to cropper, cannot guarantee the status of anything 'concrete,' not even the mute body of a dead thinker. . . there are only metaphor's with no rooting in the 'world.'
ARCHETECTONIC 3 years ago
This is hauntingly beautiful. Very enjoyable to watch. The form of this video and the structure of your essay is especially appropriate. I know you say that you don't like this essay anymore, but I would strongly suggest that you keep this video up for the benefit of anyone who is interested in Baudrillard.
exergenic 3 years ago
Thanks.
zorio 3 years ago
Ok, then who would have a better diet... Sam Harris or Buridan's ass?
joshsowords 3 years ago
If Baudrillard passes for intellectual writing in the universities today, it is obvious why the layman is eternally suspicious of the value of philosophy.
Incidentally, this is the longest string on unconcretized metaphors I've ever heard. An unbroken string of nonsense.
What does it mean for a book to "roll around itself"?
[2:25] "What is forgetting?"
OMG
MrCropper 3 years ago
Baudrillard largely isn't taught in academia, just so you know.
"Incidentally, this is the longest string on unconcretized metaphors I've ever heard. An unbroken string of nonsense."
Considering this is essentially a poem I wrote to mark Baudrillard's death, I think you've missed the point.
Also, I'd like to point out that simply throwing around the terms "concrete" and "abstractions" doesn't make you sound any smarter that when you were calling me a pin head for having read Kant.
zorio 3 years ago
You kantian pin head, go back to the noumenal world where you came from! Cropper should concretize you.
deadwildcat1 3 years ago
I'm not sure if it's funnier if you're joking or if you're serious...
zorio 3 years ago
Personally I think you all are fools, Rayn is too optimistic, Kant is too synical. Reality is understood to a midpoint. I suppose when you are on two extremes of thought; one cannot think in the context of another. We should rename you both extremist. A-extremist and K-extremist. Anyone hear of Russell? Wittgenstein? Heck, Puttnum?
jamesellis33 3 years ago
I don't think zorio is pure kantian, just a certain subset of kant's philosophy. Cropper is the one who insists on puritanical discipleship of some "philosopher."
mutulus 3 years ago
"Incidentally, this is the longest string on unconcretized metaphors I've ever heard. An unbroken string of nonsense."
Nonsense, like dropping by at random to deliver a "you suck" every once in a while? Maybe you could be reading Kant right now instead of harassing people on youtube.
mutulus 3 years ago
whatever happened to your essay on heidegger??
trisix99 3 years ago
Which essay do you mean?
zorio 3 years ago
the one in which you quote Heraclitus - Nature is wont to hide herself.
trisix99 3 years ago
Zorio, I need some help to deconstruct the grammar of ground zero to see how it effects our local reality, can you help me?
Mike1977a1 4 years ago
I don't know what you mean, so... maybe?
zorio 4 years ago
Zorio, Sorry i was talking to a scientist and economist but his view of the world is scientific in the extreme.
He seems to be projecting scientific theories of the subatomic world and thinks it applies to the social politcal world which confused me a bit.
I think that a persons view of the world is shaped by what they do in the world.
Mike1977a1 4 years ago
dude, wherd all your videos go i needed the one where you talk about the map and how were not going insane because of the simulation etc there goes my gr12 english mark.
daneo4 4 years ago
hehe. :D
just say, 'the map is not the territory'. And we ARE going insane. especially you. 0_0
But seriously? You don't need to talk about Baudrillard to get a good mark in grade 12 English. I mean, that's the great thing about English. You can just make stuff up. You're an intelligent guy. Be creative.
touchingstoves 4 years ago
ummm...... i forget :/
Oh yes, interesting delivery, emotive although im not sure why? perhaps im missing something. all the same, a very delicate and well written article, i look forward to more from zorio.
masbbo 4 years ago
"im not sure why?"
To honour the life and death of Baudrillard.
zorio 4 years ago
Ok, i was under the impression that you were interested in strait up forgetting him as a figure, therefore opposed to romantisizing JB in any way. no?
masbbo
masbbo 4 years ago
No, I specify at the end that I am pro-Baudrillard, I wrote it in his style on purpose.
zorio 4 years ago
ok, i guess his style is very much open to interpretation then.
On a seperate note, i got a lot out of your History of the Subject vids, very concise and structured in a way that sustained my appatite for your opinion.
Props from the UK.
masbbo 4 years ago
wow. Thanks.
denito9474 4 years ago
oh, crap. Does that sound sarcastic? it's not. I'm left speechless by this...
denito9474 4 years ago
I didn't take it as sarcasm. Thank you though.
zorio 4 years ago
I've only ever read Simulacra and Simulation, what would you recommend I read next?
AtheistAaron 4 years ago
Fatal Strategies
America
Any/All of his Cool Memories.
zorio 4 years ago
Thanks! Nice reading and vid, for the record.
AtheistAaron 4 years ago 2
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There is no record, you philistine.
grantsinmypants2 3 years ago
hmm ... well the last line of this video unforutnately reminded me of the protestant/televangelist dogma that one is not saved by works but by faith (please send money to the above address). however, the Forgotten i believe is dangerous, it occupies a space beyond (beneath?) the ramparts of defense, it grows and becomes plague-like, perhaps medieval. cont.
threeofwands 4 years ago
in this view the forgotten is never really forgotten. it is simply the suppressed, and yet the remedy is not to simply "give in" to the demands of this suppressed (buried?)antagonist, but to direct it to positive ends. Easier said than done.
threeofwands 4 years ago
Alright, so above all I think this is excellent:) I think you have a wonderful prose that to great extent mimics poetry and for sure; you are a great writer. I also think I now too little to comment fully on the remarks on Baudrillards writings, but the points you make on Cool Memories seems refelected, original and well-presented cont.
ScientificDiscussion 4 years ago
It is of course a very "avantgarde" piece, not very academic, but on the other hand, more from the heart. I want to be perfectly hournest and confess that I actually felt sad after your video. This is a first. Your friendship is a privilege
ScientificDiscussion 4 years ago 3
The "avantgarde" style was my attempt to fit the style of Jean Baudrillard himself.
Thank you very much.
zorio 4 years ago
I love the word, "homo-fragmentus." It fits so well what is happening to human beings within today's modern "culture." The wonderful touch of you actually becoming homo-fragmentus is...can't find the words...Thanks!
cosmicpilgrim 4 years ago
I hope it comes through as well in future writings. I'm planning to do more with the idea of homo fragmentis.
zorio 4 years ago
so how's the graduate applications going? does the school you are currently attending have a graduate program you could apply for?
threeofwands 4 years ago
The applications are alright I suppose, I haven't heard back from anyone yet.
The school I attend only offers graduate studies in Biology and Chemistry.
zorio 4 years ago
You should repost the pickles video. he deserves his day in the limelight.
i would appreciate it if you would drop me a line here when you find out which school your going to.
threeofwands 4 years ago
May flowers are blooming, Zorio. you must be getting ready to walk.
did you like your last undergraduate semester? what are your plans for the summer?
threeofwands 3 years ago
I did enjoy my last semester of undergrad. I ended up getting a lot out of my phenomenology course, as well as the course on Foucault that I took (which resulted in me and a couple of friends from the class going to a big Foucault conference in Boston). My summer plans are basically to read, write, and move for grad school.
zorio 3 years ago
... and post some more videos, i hope. i would love to see something about phenomenology, and others would too. i believe Derrida's dissertation was on Husserl's "Origin of Geomety," if i'm not mistaken.
threeofwands 3 years ago
I really enjoyed it Michael! Thanks a lot!
davius4321 4 years ago
Hi Z. I´ll of course comment more fully, but I have to go now, just before I forget, are you aware of the book "Forget Baudrillard?" by Turner and Rojek.
ScientificDiscussion 4 years ago
I've heard it's over-rated. I found it in pdf online and I plan on reading it as soon as I have time to judge for myself.
zorio 4 years ago
perfect...
chaoticjesus 4 years ago
fuuuuck man! how did you get so awesome?!
0neironaut 4 years ago
That has to be the best memorial to Baudrillard I've ever seen.
Congratulations on getting published!
bubblesort 4 years ago
Reminds me of a statement from one of my favorite teachers when he was summarizing a statement from one of your favorite teachers: "Thinking consists of forgetting". :-)
randyhelzerman 4 years ago 2
Woot! Congratulations dude!!!!
randyhelzerman 4 years ago
beautiful!
bubonicnate 4 years ago