No One Knows that Day or Hour

[sprinkle888]

Many have predicted throughout the Century of Christ coming and all have been found to be wrong, let God be the truth and every man a liar according to the holy scriptures.

[sikovit]

READ THAT SCRIPTURE AGAIN YOU WORKER OF LAWLESSNESS......

READ 35..."HEAVEN AND EARTH SHALL PASS AWAY"36. CONCERNING THAT DAY....NO ONE KNOWS...

[aboyborninjune]

If I do like Harold Camping, except I predict EVERY FUTURE DAY as judgement day - then I will predict the day, no matter what day God choses, right? So much for "only God knows the day and the hour" ... If every person predicts every day to come as judgement day, we will all predict it, right? Haha.. well I just broke that myth. Can we move on?

[henrygarza7]

we do not know the DAY nor the Hour of our Lord's return, but he has given us signs to watch for and prophecies to look at so we can know that he is nigh Mar.13:29

[AgeOfRecognition]

don't forget, there is no such thing as a god

[Livingwaterspools]

Sounds like this post trib guy is making good arguments for pre trib, hmm...no man knows the day or the hour, if your a post tribber then you could just count 1260 days after the abomination in the temple and then you would know. Anyway you probably wont even make it there alive.

[eddienickels1]

@Livingwaterspools The problem with this arguement is Mark 13:32 was refering to the events you pre-tribbers call the Glorious return of Jesus Christ after the tribulation. That is the event no man knows the day or hour of.

[hecticlife41]

WATCH= TO VIEW CAREFULLY,TO GUARD,TO KEEP INFORMED,THE ACT OF STAYING AWAKE,INSPECT,OBSERVE!! WATCH WHAT! THE BIBLE!2 PETER1;20 .THAT NO PROPHECY OF THE SCRIPTURE IS OF ANY PRIVATE INTERPRETATION!!! A WISE MANS HEART DISCERNS BOTH TIME AND JUDGEMENT!

[hecticlife41]

MAY 21 2011 IS THE DAY WHEN JESUS RETURNS..MATT.24;;45 TALKS ABOUT THE FAITHFULL WISE SERVANTS [TRU BELIEVERS]AND STILL TALKS ABOUT IT UNTILL VERSE 47! THEN IN VERS.48 TALKS ABOUT THE EVIL SERVANT ALL THROU 51 ..WE HAVE 2 DIFFERENT PEOPLE HERE..THE EVIL SERVANT ,SAYS IN HIS HEART MY MASTER IS DELAYING HIS COMING AND THE MASTER[JESUS] OF THAT SERVANT [EVIL/UNBELIEVERS] WILL COME ON A DAY AND HOUR HE IS NOT AWARE!!VERS.45 TO 47 TALKS ABOUT FAITHFULL! AND VERS.48 TO 51 TALKS ABOUT THE EVIL SERV!!

[RudeAwakning]

you can narrow it down to 2 days before! When it gets closer you can narrow it down to the day!

[interstateruler]

I believe in that verse. People have been predicting the end of the world.

For example, they are predicting doomsday on Dec 21, 2012. I am scare of that but now I say about Matthew 24, that one verse beats all

[xena1973]

Camping is false prophet/false teacher, he is just a man, and what does the bible say no man again no man knows the hour or day, if camping says he knows the day he is elevating himself than more than a man

[scroatem]

i dont trust either one

[cassiebrite]

Thanks for posting this. Great points, and clearly laid out for people to understand what Christ says versus what people paraphrase mistakenly (and I've been guilty of it, sadly!). Going on my favorite list so I can always find this!

[zprodigalson]

What does it mean to be "ready"? What should we be doing to be ready?

[richardperry2]

We must be studying Scripture to see what God says to watch for and be ready to do what he says when He says to do it.

[tgambill]

The MOST IMPORTANT thing you can be doing is getting your spiritual house in order. KNOW ROMANS 10:9 and you will be set.

[valano72]

Mat. 24

35Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

36But of THATday and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

did you hear that? The heavens and earth will pass away, for THAT day no man knows. Christ returns on a seperate day, which has been revealed!!! Revelation 20 and 21 proves two seperate events. Christ day of return was mean to be revealed to us. WATCH daniels timeline link on my channel.

[IRSFRAUDEXPOSED]

what? all i heard was the god the father only know not even Christ. or the day heaven and earth pass away no one knows?

[sp4c3m0nk3ygl33k]

I will tell you what God has shown me. The Great Tribulation will be summer 2009-2016

Winter solstice 2012 is just the midpoint called "the abomination that causes desolation" (subtract 1260 days to find the start and add 1260 days to find the end).

[valano72]

Mat. 24

35Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

36But of THATday and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

did you hear that? The heavens and earth will pass away, for THAT day no man knows. Christ returns on a seperate day, which has been revealed!!! Revelation 20 and 21 proves two seperate events. Christ day of return was mean to be revealed to us. WATCH daniels timeline link on my channel. EXACT DAY REVEALED!

[sp4c3m0nk3ygl33k]

Even the demons called Legion knew when the apointed time was. No one knows the time or hour of the return of Jesus Himself in Glory with His Angels except God Himself. Secret societies have conjured untrustworthy demons to get the approximate time. Trust me, the antichrist and his minions know when the Tribulation starts.

[valano72]

no not demons. The day of Christ return was revealed biblically through GOD's timelines and Jewish Feasts and Years. GOD revealed this not demons. Watch the Daniel Timeline to be dumbfounded. Link is on my channel under my picture on the Left.

[Noahgoy]

You are correct, when compared to other scripture it becomes apparent that God would indeed let the True Believers know the time of his return.

[tgambill]

he has not revealed the time of his return to no one, not even Jesus. However, we do know the season, according to Daniel 9:24 and the signs of the times.

[mojamela23jeta]

@Noahgoy this goes towards the belief of "Once Saved Always Saved" myth. When Salvation is not permanent, one needs to be always holding to God's hand so that when that day comes you will be ready and you will not be "surprised" . If we know when He was coming, then wouldnt we be procrastinating? so NO ONE KNOWS THE DAY OR THE HOUR!!!!

[Bereankjvuk123]

Excellent Teaching !

[Casanova2324]

Tygew you're right Jesus is Godhead find it Colssians 2V.8-9, Hebrews 1V.3, and Philippians 2V.2-11, and Revelation 19V.11-16. John said in I John 5 V.5, the overcomers are those who believe that Jesus is the Son of God which basically denotes His divinty as God. Son of God=God. That is the greek way of describing the actual person by using figure of expression. You done enough correction for a light year. The bible says in Titus 3 V. 10-11; is a two verses you should read. We rebuke in love.

[PhaqtebiDaBiblia]

The Bible also refers to the Son of God by the title "God." At Isaiah 9:6 he is called "Mighty God." But in the Bible, angels, humans, false gods, and Satan are also called "gods." (Angels: Psalm 8:5; compare Hebrews 2:6, 7. Humans: Psalm 82:6. False gods: Exodus 12:12; 1 Corinthians 8:5. Satan: 2 Corinthians 4:4.) In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word for "God," 'El, simply means "Mighty One" or "Strong One." The equivalent in the Greek Scriptures is the•os´.

[tygew]

Good now that you understand that there is only ONE GOD, then you will accept that the ONE GOD who is called the Holy Spirit is the Father of the flesh called Jesus; the ONE GOD went into the flesh he created and became a man as ONE GOD, not TWO. In Isaiah 9:6 Jesus is called God, not god! One God, One Holy Spirit became a man Jesus. One God, not Two or three!

Deuteronomy 6:4

Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah:

Isaiah 43:11

I, even I, am Jehovah; and besides me there is no saviour.

[PhaqtebiDaBiblia]

I posted you prove that Jesus is Son of God not the godson as you think and dream. Thats why i called you Dreamer :)

Bible teach that Jesus is Son of God. God created Jesus. Proverbs 8:22; Colossians1:15-17 and Revelation 3:14 shows clearly that Jesis were created by God. You dream and dream. Its up to you.

:)

[tygew]

The Holy Spirit became a man. The Holy Spirit is the Father of the man that he created & went into. The Holy Spirit is the only Spirit that resided inside of Jesus. When Jesus died on the cross, he gave up the Holy Spirit. The body came back to life when God, aka the Holy Spirit entered the body. There is not a God up in heaven & then his son on earth. It was God the Holy Spirit in heaven & God the Holy Spirit in Jesus at the same time. One God, One Son, One Father, One Holy Spirit as One God.

[tygew]

Are you trying to tell me that there is a God in heaven who had a mini god called Jesus, as his son as in two separate beings? And then there's another god called the Father? Three Gods?

Or do you understand that there is only ONE God who is the Holy Spirit, & that ONE God the Holy Spirit became the man Jesus? God is the Holy Spirit who is the Father of himself as Jesus. There is only one God who is the Holy Spirit; the One God became a man as Jesus.

ONE GOD NOT THREE! that's what I'm saying.

[brovic777]

Jesus is coming back anytime. Might be today, or 1000 years from now. Its no use wasting our time trying to figure this out. All we can do is live for God.

[tygew]

Victor, death is when we will see Jesus again. Other than that he has already com back as spirit, the Holy Spirit, God. There is no rapture other than death. There is no second coming other than the spirit. Thats why Jesus said "If anyone says here he is in the desert, these inner rooms etc, do not believe it! For I am an omnipresent spirit who is like the lightning that is seen in the east and the west at the same time...so shall I be in spirit during the time period called The Day of the Lord"

[tygew]

The day of the Lord is a time period of judgment from Christ till now, aka last days. The return of Christ has been in spirit; the tribulation of the "church", aka New Jerusalem, started with the beheading of John the baptist, Jesus crucified, Stephen was stoned to death, Paul who was stoned to death but lived, John who was boiled alive yet lived as Jesus said he would. All of the disciples died for Christ! We have been in the great tribulation for over 2000 years now called the day of the Lord.

[tygew]

You say not to seek man for answers but to seek the bible. I say seek God to interpret the bible! You deceive people with your man made opinions and theorys. The bible warns us of this:

[tygew]

1 Timothy 6:3-5

If any man teacheth a different doctrine, and consenteth not to sound words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; he is puffed up, knowing nothing, but doting about questionings and disputes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, wranglings of men corrupted in mind and bereft of the truth, supposing that godliness is a way of financial gain.

[tygew]

The truth of Mat 25 is not left up to man made theory's and opinions. It is scripturally backed and revealed by the Spirit of God, the Almighty Councilor. The truth of Mat 25 is this:

We don't know what time in our life we will die, that is the unknown hour. People died suddenly in the flood, Sodom & Gomorrah, so shall it be in the time period called the day of the Lord; only people will die one at a time as in 1 Cor 15 which speaks of death of the body & resurrection as spirit, not a rapture.

[tygew]

1 cor 15 only speaks of death of the body & resurrection as spirit:

1 Corinthains 15

22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. But each in his own order:

26 The last enemy [in our life] that shall be abolished is death.

35 But some one will say, How are the dead raised? and with what manner of body do they come? Thou foolish one, that which thou thyself sowest is NOT MADE ALIVE except it DIE!

40 There are also celestial [spirit] bodies, and bodies terrestrial [flesh]

[tygew]

42-44 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: it is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: it is sown a natural body; IT IS RAISED A SPIRITUAL BODY! 49-50 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption [DEATH not RAPTURE]

[tygew]

Then after clearly speaking of death of the body and resurrection as a spirit, he clearly says we will not taste death meaning stay dead, but rather be changed to a spirit in the twinkling of an eye. 51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We all shall not sleep [remain dead], but we shall all be changed [to spirit], 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump [voice of God]: for the trumpet shall sound, and the DEAD SHALL BE RAISED incorruptible, & we shall be changed [TO SPIRIT].

[tygew]

Then 1 Corinthians 15 continues to speak of the same death of the body and resurrection as spirit by saying:

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption [SPIRIT], and this mortal [BODY] must put on immortality.

54 But when this corruptible [BODY] shall have put on incorruption [SPIRIT], and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written, DEATH is swallowed up in victory.

55 O DEATH, where is thy victory? O DEATH, where is thy sting?

DEATH!

[tygew]

Now that you understand that the rapture is a misunderstanding of death, then you must accept that all of the other scriptures are poetically referring to death too. To see Jesus when we die coming with clouds of heaven does not mean the clouds in the sky. Clouds represent billions of angels and judgment.

Joel 2

1 let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the DAY OF JEHOVAH cometh, for it is nigh at hand; 2 a DAY of darkness and gloominess, a DAY OF CLOUDS and thick darkness [JUDGMENT!]

[tygew]

Jeremiah 4:12-13

a full wind from these shall come for me: now will I also utter JUDGMENTS against them. Behold, he shall come up AS CLOUDS, and his chariots shall be AS the whirlwind

Zephaniah 1:15

That DAY is a DAY of wrath [JUDGMENT], a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of CLOUDS and thick darkness,

Matthew 24:30

they shall see the Son of man coming on the CLOUDS OF HEAVEN with power and great glory.

CLOUDS = JUDGMENT

[tygew]

Mat 26:64

Jesus said unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Henceforth ye shall see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming "ON" the CLOUDS OF HEAVEN [JUDGMENT].

Mark 13:26

And then shall they see the Son of man coming in clouds with great power and glory.

1 Thes 4:17

then we that are alive, that are left, shall together with them be caught up in the clouds [WHEN WE DIE], to meet the Lord in the air [IN SPIRIT]: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

[tygew]

The unknown hour that you babble about is death, not a rapture. In the flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, the people DIED suddenly! Same as two are standing one is taken = death. No man knows that day or hour of death, only God.

The return of Jesus is an omnipresent spirit; he is EVERYWHERE like LIGHT. So if anyone says to you here he is in this church, desert, wafer etc, DO NOT BELIEVE IT! For as LIGHTning that is SEEN, VISIBLY in the east and west at the same time, so shall the Spirit of Jesus be.

[tygew]

The return of Jesus has been since the resurrection till now, called 'the day of the Lord' & 'the last days'. It is a time period of judgment of those who die at an unknown hour. Compare the parables now to understand the thief of the house = tent = our body.

2 Cor 5:4

For while we are in this TENT [BODY], we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed with our heavenly dwelling [SPIRIT], so that what is mortal [BODY] may be swallowed up by life [IN DEATH].

[FollowerofYahshua]

Read Jeremiah 29 too many proclaim things in the name of the Lord with ignorance to what they are saying. Your reconing with scriptuer, because that's what it is period is not the truth. The signs are obvious and in Matthew 24 He said "as in the days of Noah" that is not yet. Don't play with theories and call it God. I pray that so many false teachers see the error and turn from them because in error is the wrath of God. Love you brother, your "theory" was not revealed because it's not your own.

[tygew]

You are a lier & have been deceived by preconceived notions. Mathew 24 you spoke of says that people "DIED SUDDENLY" in the flood, Sodom & Gomorrah; so shall it be, death, during the day of the Lord; only people will die one at a time like it says in 1 Cor 15 22-23

For as in Adam all DIE, so also in Christ shall all be made alive [as SPIRIT]. But each in his own order:

Thats why it says "two are working one is taken."

This was reveled to me by God, not of my own understanding like yourselves.

[FollowerofYahshua]

1 Thess 4:17 talks about a people who are physically alive look up the word and remain that word remain is there for a reason. perileipomai-survive. Those dead will be risen as Christ was PHYSICALLY risen and had WITNESSES of it and we shall follow after. To survive something must have happened to survive from TRIBULATION. We meet the Lord and follow Him as He pours out His wrath and establishes His kingdom for 1000 years. I did not find this on my own understanding. It was PLAIN to SEE.

[tygew]

Close. The dead in Christ that rose first were those who were temporarily covered by animals blood. Those people could not enter heaven till Jesus paid the price for them, as he paid the price for ALL. Thats why they were called the dead in Christ. They rose first and were judged first by Jesus. Then those of us who are ALIVE & REMAIN, will see Jesus when we die, at an unknown hour, coming with clouds of judgment & angels. We will not remain dead but will be changed in the twinkling of an eye.

[FollowerofYahshua]

Paul spoke AFTER the ascension of Christ and after the dead saints walked the streets. When Peter spoke of Christ preaching to spirits in prison also as the lamb slain from the foundation of the world so that ALL had a chance for salvation. Paul discusses to those who thought Christ would return in their lifetime but saw others around them die that they should be comforted by the future promise, but the promise had signs that must happen before His return and it's very literal.

[tygew]

No you are delusional you bought the lie. The return of Christ is in spirit form; it has been from the resurrection till now, called the day of the Lord & Last Days. The only time we will see Jesus is when we die. The ones who crucified Jesus also will see all of these things happen; yes that was literal because when they died they were changed to spirit in the twinkling of an eye; they saw Jesus coming with clouds of judgment as trillions of angels. Before the day of the Lord began, Jesus died

[PhaqtebiDaBiblia]

You are spiritualy blind my dear Dreamer

I posted you inough evidence but you still dreaming.

You can believe in gods. I believe in Jesus father because only He is True God!

"Jesus spoke these things, and, raising his eyes to heaven, he said: "Father... This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ". - John 17:1-3. Jesus called His Father ONLY TRUE GOD!

[tygew]

You claim a rapture is coming in the future...but the bible says that when we die we will see him...including those who pierced him:

Revelation 1:7

Behold, he cometh with the clouds; and EVERY EYE shall see him [at death], and THEY THAT PIERCED HIM; and all the tribes of the earth shall mourn over him. Even so, Amen

EVEN THEY that pierced him, even THEY that pierced him, THEY that pierced him, even THEY that pierced him.

Even THEY that pierced Jesus shall see him coming with clouds of heaven!

[FollowerofYahshua]

This is why the trump won't be the last trump at the feast of trumpets, because it narrows it to a day and hour, but we will be able to be prepared when the signs have all come. It's also the trump of God or His voice. As the Bible mentions His voice sounding as "thunder" and "many waters"

[richardperry2]

Check this out. "No one knows about that day or hour" is actually a Hebrew idiom that refers to the Feast of Trumpets.

The Feast of Trumpets occurs at the day and hour of the New Moon which is very difficult to see when it is overcast or cloudy.

So, it's likely that Christ was referring to the Feast of Trumpets when he used that expression.

[FollowerofYahshua]

I have heard perry stone use that reference to try to prove there WILL be a rapture. Even if that's true it has to be the 7th trump and the last of the feast of trumps is referred to as the trump of God, but it doesn't play for the rapture side anyway. Many need to break away from fables and look at the plain Word of God through His Spirit's guidance not man's. Thanks though.

[tygew]

Here you are again reaching and seeking your own insight; coming up with theoryS contrived from the heart of man. Ask God for insight, then WAIT...wait for HIS revelation NOT YOUR OWN!

The voice of God is called the trumpet voice, as he said. When we die we will hear the voice of God calling us. His voice is compared to a loud voice of many voices, like a loud trumpet; called the voice of God.

Rev 1:10

I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and I heard behind me a great VOICE, as of a TRUMPET

[tygew]

Ask God for direction rather than leaning on your own understanding.

Proverbs 3:5

Trust in Jehovah with ALL THY HEART, And lean not upon thine OWN UNDERSTANDING:

Romans 12:2

And be not fashioned according to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, and ye may prove what is the good and acceptable and perfect will of God.

2 Timothy 3:16

Every scripture inspired of God is also profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for instruction which is in righteousness.

[tygew]

I knew you were delusional from the get go! You don't lean on God for understanding, you lean on your own understanding; that's why you are delusional.

The day of the Lord is not a 24hour day, it is a "TIME PERIOD OF JUDGMENT" from Christ RISEN till now. The last days are also the same 'day of the Lord' from Christ RISEN till now. The unknown hour, is our own day of death. Everyone has and will die from Christ till now, aka last days. Each will die at his own time, at an unknown hour, death.

[tygew]

Now understand that all.."ALL" of 1 Cor 15 is speaking of death of the body, and resurrection as a spirit, not a rapture.

Mat 24 is speaking of the time period called the day of the Lord; in which people will die suddenly, at an unknown hour; just as the days of the flood, Sodom & Gomorrah, ALL people died suddenly. Only that during the day of the Lord death will be one at a time:

1Cor 15:22-23

For as in Adam all DIE, so also in Christ shall all be MADE ALIVE. But "EACH IN HIS OWN ORDER"

[FollowerofYahshua]

the problem with your theory is that the signs are happening that pull is down to a certain moment and your "understanding" claims that all these signs happened in the first century and all the proof denies it.

[tygew]

The problem with your reply is that MY theory is not mine but rather what GOD showed me as an answer to prayer for knowledge and insight of his word. I asked for his opinion, the truth, and nothing of man or religion...otherwise I did not want to read it. He said ok and taught me this view. Pray yourself for insight; as my view has no contradictions because it was revealed to me by God himself!

The day of the Lord is a time period of judgment from Christs resurrection till now, aka last days.

[tygew]

The rapture is a lie based off of scriptures that are clearly speaking of death. The antichrist, mentioned 5 times in the bible in only 4 verses (4 times in 1 John & 1 time in 2 John) is NOT a man possessed by Satan, it is an adjective in lower case describing any & EVERY man who has ever denied Christ as the Son of God, PERIOD. The last days apply to man, the day of the Lord applies to God, they are the same time period from Christ till now, till whenever. The end of the world spoke of is death

[richardperry2]

You know very well that "the Day of the Lord" will come like a thief in the night. ... But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. 1 Thessalonians 5:2, 4

[tygew]

Death comes suddenly as a thief in the night, which occurs during a time period called the day of the Lord, aka last days. Death is our day of judgment. The bible applies to EVERY man from Christ till now. Every person will die at an unknown hour yet not taste death for we will be transformed in a twinkling of an eye to a spirit. At death our eyes are opened to the 'spiritual' realm. Then we'll see the Lord coming in 'spirit' with clouds of judgment as trillions of 'spiritual' beings... angels.

[TAPANGA01]

We cant know the day or hour, but can know the season and narrow it down by the signs that Jesus spoke of in the bible.

[richardperry2]

You are exactly right! So, we keep watch!

[tygew]

NO HE IS WRONG! JUST LIKE YOU! Death is the unknown hour! No man knows that day or hour but God himself. When we die at an unknown hour, we will be transformed into a spirit in the twinkling of an eye; then our eyes will be opened to the spiritual realm; we will see Jesus upon the trillions of angels coming as clouds of judgment. The dead in Christ, temporarily covered by a temporary sacrifice of animals blood, already rose first; then those who are alive & remain (us) will see him at our DEATH!

[tygew]

Rapture theorists skip this verse:

Mat 24:34

Verily I say unto you, 'THIS GENERATION' shall not pass away [DIE], till 'ALL THESE THINGS' be accomplished.

Everyone alive will eventually see all these things happen, including the coming of Jesus...at our death!

I am not lying!

Revelation 1:7

Behold, he cometh with the clouds [of judgment and angels]; and 'EVERY EYE' [ever] shall see him, and [even] THEY THAT PIERCED HIM; and 'ALL' the tribes of the earth shall mourn over him. Even so, Amen.

[juniorritethur]

i love god so much and i can't wait till he come back 4 us jesus is the one and only god

[PhaqtebiDaBiblia]

IF JESUS WERE THE GOD THEN HE WOULD KNOW THE DAY AND HOUR WHEN HE WAS ASKED TO SAY IT BUT LOOK WHAT DID JESUS SAY:

"Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father" - MATTHEW 24:36

SO REMEMBER WHAT DID JESUS SAY: "Nobody knows", "neither the angels, nor the SON, BUT ONLY THE FATHER". Hope you will trust to Jesus and His words. Jesus would not lyi to anyone.

[richardperry2]

The expression "no one knows about that day or hour" is a Hebrew idiom which refers to the Feast of Trumpets.

Christ will return on the Feast of Trumpets.

It seems very likely that when Christ used this Hebrew expression that He was actually telling His disciples that He would be returning on the Feast of Trumpets.

Wouldn't that be AMAZING!

[PhaqtebiDaBiblia]

My dear you are wrong. It is clear statement of Jesus qbout the day and hour that he and angels did not know it. There is no any evidance of other interpretation of his words. Question was simple and answer too. You try to interprate his words in diferent way which does not agree to the Bible teaching.

[goldmakers]

@richardperry2 yes Richard The reason is given to us in Matt. 24. I would be happy to send you my Book which is being released this week coming. Please email me: goldmakers@aol.com and I will send you a dox file of the book prerelease. JM

[tygew]

Jesus was God in the flesh. He also divided himself from himself and all knowledge as a man. Meaning that he became a man in all aspects. As man he did not know when each man would die; only when he died did he become the Holy Spirit and know all things, such as when that hour is that we die. Our death is the unknown hour, when we will see him coming with clouds of heaven with trillions of angels of judgment, the moment we are changed from a dead body to a spirit body in the twinkling of an eye.

[PhaqtebiDaBiblia]

If you think "Jesus was God in flash" it means that People saw God in flash. Your interpratation is WRONG because Bible clearly says: "No man has seen God at any time". Wish you accepted what does Bible teach!

[tygew]

No man has seen God at any time because light does not affect spirit. God is omnipresent spirit, unseen by the human eye. Only as Jesus could God be seen in action. Looking at the flesh of Jesus was not looking at the Spirit God; but there was NO other spirit in Jesus besides Gods Holy Spirit. When Jesus died he gave up the Spirit. The return of Jesus is as an UNSEEN spirit. We will only see him again at death. As lightning is seen across the sky, so it is with the omnipresent spirit of Jesus.

[tygew]

John 4:24

God is a Spirit

God the spirit became flesh as Jesus:

John 1:1 & 14

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD. 14And THE WORD BECAME FLESH, and dwelt among us [As Jesus] (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth.

[tygew]

Isa 9:6-8 to us a CHILD is born, a SON is given & his name shall be called ALMIGHTY GOD, EVERLASTING FATHER. His government and peace there SHALL BE NO END, upon the THRONE OF DAVID

Luke 1:31-33

Thou shalt conceive in thy womb, & bring forth a son, & shalt call his name JESUS. He shall be great, & shall be called the Son of the Most High: & the Lord God shall give unto him the THRONE OF HIS FATHER DAVID: & he shall reign over the house of Jacob FOR EVER; & of his kingdom there shall BE NO END.

[PhaqtebiDaBiblia]

you are WRONG DEAR. Jesus was reflecting God's personality. Jesus was Son of Gad NOT THE GOD HIMSELF. Jesus was created by the God! Proverbs 8:22 "Jehovah prodused me". "Firstborn of all creation"- Colossians 1:15. Please do not try to interprate Bible in a wrong way! Fear to Jehovah God.

[tygew]

In all actuality you are the one IGNORING scripture!

Jesus, the flesh, is the Son of God. But Jesus Spirit IS GOD; as the Holy Spirit in the flesh. Read Isaiah 9:6 again Read John1:1&14. Jesus is God, the Holy Spirit, in the flesh called Jesus. The flesh was born of God, & the Spirit of Jesus was God aka Holy Spirit. God is One God, NOT THREE! One Holy Spirit who is God the Father of the flesh as one God.

Through God all things are possible: God is the Father of himself in the flesh as Jesus.

[PhaqtebiDaBiblia]

You Dreamer TYGEW,Better don't put in Bible your own ilussions!Accept what does Bible say about God.I already told you that Jesus is created by God. Proverbs 8:22 "Jehovah himself prodused me"; "Firstborn of Gods creation" - Colossians 1:15;

" Jesus]the beginning of the creation by God" - Revelation 3:14.Unfortunately,YOU are IGNORING GOD'S WHARD AND HIS CLEAR TEACHING.I AM NOT GOING TO ARGUE WITH YOU. YOU DO NOT CARE WHAT DOES BIBLE TEACH.

YOU DO NOT RESPECT GOD'S WORD! ITS SO NOT GOOD.

[tygew]

I'm not trying to be mean by saying this: But if you can't speak English, then how are you to understand it clearly by reading the bible in English? Unless you read in another language. As I told you "Read Isaiah 9:6 again, it says that God, the Holy Spirit, becomes a man as flesh, the Holy Spirit of God in a man

Read John1:1 & 14. Jesus is God the Holy Spirit in the flesh. The flesh was born of God yet the Spirit of Jesus was God. God is One God, One Holy Spirit, God the Father in the flesh

[tygew]

Isaiah 9:6-8

Unto us a "CHILD" [Jesus] is born, unto us a "SON" is given & "HIS" name shall be called ALMIGHTY "GOD", EVERLASTING "FATHER"

John 4:24 "God is a Spirit" God the spirit became flesh as Jesus:

John 1:1 & 14

1In the beginning was the Word, & the Word was with God, & "THE WORD WAS GOD". 14& THE WORD [God] BECAME FLESH, & dwelt among us [As Jesus]

You say to believe the words of God, right? Then why is it so hard for you to believe prophesy about Jesus being Gods Spirit in the flesh?

[tygew]

You say that Jesus was the first of Gods creation, assuming that God created all things, right? I mean even Gen 1 says that God created everything. But John 1:1 says that Jesus always was, he was in the beginning with God and he was God. Then he says in verse 3: "ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM; and without him was NOT any thing made THAT WAS MADE."

If "ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY JESUS" then who made Jesus? (as you say Jesus was the FIRST of Gods creations) Jesus is God, Holy Spirit- ONE & the SAME.

[PhaqtebiDaBiblia]

Dreamer

You did NOT comment on the PROVERB 8:22, COLOSSIANS 1:15 and REVELATION 3:14.

I can read and understand English very well. I have Bible in HEBREW AND GREEK LANGUAGES AS WELL. ALSO IN MANY OTHER LANGUAGES.

JOHN 1:1 does NOT say that Jesus allways was. It says in the beginning he was. The reason it says so is because Jesus was God's first creation thats why he was with God in the biginning. Better accept Bibles teaching and then comment Please. Jesus is NOT GODSON, He is SON OF GOD.

[tygew]

You said:

"I can read and understand English very well. I have Bible in HEBREW AND GREEK LANGUAGES AS WELL. ALSO IN MANY OTHER LANGUAGES."

But you keep saying things like ward instead of word; flash instead of flesh; GODSON instead of God/Son; and "YOU DO NOT CARE WHAT DOES BIBLE TEACH" instead of "what the bible teaches" etc etc etc etc with you.

It is obvious you do not understand nor speak English anywhere near as well as you claim that you do. I now see the error in your understanding.

[PhaqtebiDaBiblia]

Dear Dreamer :)

I have many things to do. I type very fast and thats I made few mistakes. But the letter i have sent to you in your mailbox you needed to read and learn. But i see you do not really care at all what does bible teach!

[PhaqtebiDaBiblia]

I can read and understand english very well. Thats true. Although english is not my first language. If my spelling is not so good as (may) yours it is not the catastrofy. Main thing is to focuse what i wrote to you and WHAT DOES BIBLE SAY. OK? :)

[tygew]

The letter you sent me was a copy and paste. it was not your own words. It was all about denying Jesus as God in the flesh.

If one scripture contradicts another, then you need to change your view till it makes sense. If Jesus is God in the flesh, yet he calls the Spirit God and the Father, then you need to adapt your thinking accordingly.

Jesus was a man, yes, who was also Gods spirit in the flesh. God became a man as Jesus. They are one not two. God created the body Jesus, then went in it.

[PhaqtebiDaBiblia]

2. Proberbs 8:30 shows that Jesus was as a "master worker" because "All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence." - John 1:3. Read and accept what does Bible teach please if you would like to please God, Father of Jesus.

3.You say that God became FLASH. So it means God would be seeing in flash. Again Bible teach CLEARLY that "No man has seen God at any time". People saw Jesus because he was NOT God. he was God's word. John 1:14

[tygew]

Proverbs 8:22

Jehovah possessed me in the beginning of his way, Before his works of old.

Jesus is a vessel, a body, created by God. God is a spirit, Jesus is God in fl'E'sh, Jesus is a vessel used by God to manifest himself. Jesus body is a tool used ONLY by the spirit of God; as one God the Father and the Son as one, not TWO!

God, the Holy Spirit, is the word; the word, Holy Spirit, became flesh as Jesus & lived among us as ONE God, not two.

"I the LORD am ONE, besides me there is no other"

[tygew]

Colossians 1:15 "who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation;"

This coincides with what I have said: God is invisible Spirit, manifest in a Physical being called Jesus, aka 'Immanuel' meaning "God with us". Jesus was created by God as a vessel of God, yet all things were made by Jesus who is the Spirit of God in the f.l.E.s.h, not f.l.A.s.h.

Revelation 3:14

These things saith the Amen [Jesus], the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God [as God]

[PhaqtebiDaBiblia]

Revelation 3:14

These things saith the Amen [Jesus], the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God" BUT YOU ADDED WORDS: [as God]

[tygew]

No I added words as a teacher. You obviously don't understand the words of God. Stop arguing with me & go ask God for knowledge, insight & understanding. If you ask honestly, humbly & seriously...he will teach you. His name is the Councilor!

John 14:26

But the Comforter, even the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, & bring to your remembrance all that I said unto you

Luke 12:12

the Holy Spirit shall teach you in that very hour what ye ought to say.

[PhaqtebiDaBiblia]

Proverbs 8:22

"Jehovah PRODUSED me in the beginning of his way" AS IT IS WRITEN IN HEBREW ORIGINALS.

"The lord CREATED me" says LXX (GREEK SEPTUAGINT)

[tygew]

Yes true! So God made a puppet body, then God went in that puppet body and walked around as a man; teaching us how to live for God, even praying to the Spirit of God as a man in full submission to the Spirit of God. Whats so difficult to understand? God became a man! With God all things are possible!

[tygew]

Yes! And the ONLY true God became a man as Jesus. Read Isaiah 9:6 and John 1:1 & 14. You are denying that Jesus is God in the flesh:

Isaiah 9:6-8

Unto us a "CHILD" is born, unto us a "SON" [Jesus] is given & "HIS" name shall be called almighty "GOD", everlasting "FATHER"

John 4:24 "God is a Spirit" who became flesh as Jesus:

John 1:1 & 14

1In the beginning was the Word & the Word was with God, & "THE WORD WAS GOD". 14& THE WORD [God] BECAME FLESH & dwelt among us [As Jesus]

God = Jesus = God

[PhaqtebiDaBiblia]

In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. - John 1:1

So the Word [ a god ]became flesh and resided among us - John 1:14

No man has seen God at any time -John 1:18

For there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us;and the princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder.And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty [NOT ALMIGHTY] God,Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.

[tygew]

The Word was God, not god. The word God became flesh and dwelt among us as Jesus.

John 1:18

No man hath seen God [Spirit] at any time; the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. [by becoming a man; Jesus is this declaration of God among us as his own Father]

John 5:37

And the Father that sent me, he hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his form.

John5:43

I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not:

[tygew]

John 14:6-9

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life: no one cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye would have known my Father also: from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and dost thou not know me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; how sayest thou, Show us the Father?

[tygew]

Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I say unto you I speak not from myself: but the Father abiding in me doeth his works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

Jesus name is Father, not father! Jesus is called Mighty God! not a mighty god... You are deceived and in the dark. You are blinded by lies. There is only one God, not two or three; he is the Holy Spirit who came to us as Jesus.

[PhaqtebiDaBiblia]

"For there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us; and the princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God." -- Isaiah 9:6

"Mighty Divine One." Heb., 'El Gib•bohr´ (not 'El Shad•dai´)

Please do not mix up what do original text say.

I know you wish it say "almighty" but it says "Mighty" (Heb., 'El Gib•bohr´ (not 'El Shad•dai´).

That's why I can say that you teaching is not from the Bible.

[PhaqtebiDaBiblia]

Moreover, the Hebrew term used at Isaiah 9:6 shows a definite distinction between the Son and God. There the Son is called "Mighty God," 'El Gib•bohr´, not "Almighty God." That term in Hebrew is 'El Shad•dai´ and applies uniquely to Jehovah God.

[Jinx919]

nice