To those asking about the music at 2:52, it's called '007' and was used as an alternate version of the James Bond theme in the early movies - first appeared in 'From Russia with Love' and last appearance was in 'Moonraker', as far as I know.
u hav really clever vidoes, not just the visual effects but the random storyline as well. Like the toclafane and star wars. also I really like the long shot of places where u expect the place blow up but it doesn't and the missile just carries on. lol rofl lmao
@ApocalypseNext It's not that he gets plane sick, but that he doesn't have a lot of confidence in human's flying machines, and he's sort of nervous XD
I’ve been buying the doctor who DVD’s religiously since 1999. In fact the first ever DVD I bought was Tomb of the Cybermen. I’m expecting the first volume of Doctor Who Revisitations to arrive this week, and I do hope that they do further volumes in the future, as the fist twelve releases were very sparse with its extras.
Still the restoration team does lovely work, so do all those who tirelessly work to make BBC DVD’s the best on the market!
i did the concorde crashing into the tardis for my xmas special in 2007 the story was based on the voyage of the damned and i named my story 'fight of the damned' it was set in space and the concorde was a space ship
Too many details to list make me chortle! I love the music. I love the sharp pull backs and cicada noises on the warehouse/barn and Death Star. I love how you've selected exactly the right close-up expressions for every gag. You hardly give a girl a chance to breathe for laughing!
Return to us your brilliant skill with an editing machine someday soon. It will be a bright day indeed!
Possibly the best fan fid i have ever seen...EVER. the CG was brill. I love the scene at the end with the Tardis, but then again i just love the tardis
@andyjimbo2006. Don't worry, there's plenty more 'in the tank'. However, at the moment I'm simply just too busy with other things! Lets just say that, (hopefully), it won't be so much a case of when -as where...
That was absolutely brilliant!!! How the hell do you do that??? I love all your videos and i aspire to make videos like that one day in the future (but probably won't be able to make videos as good as yours)!!! Keep making more briliant videos!!! Please
I've just seen Timeflight finally lately and... Unfortunately for BBC, Farmer... Well in less than 6 unaired minutes you keep managed to beat it up, plus the previous VOTD I earlier mentionned.
If you get an account at Metacafe with your own original material, then tell me so I'll give you more hit there each day for your pockets if you get on their payment plans!
@Errata2007. Loving your detailed analysis of FOTD! Anyway, for the record, the 3d Cell Shaded 'Nautical' stuff in the Kylie sequence is all mine. It grew from the need to link together a diverse range of video clips and kylie 'looks'. Originally it was was to have been one long shot -then I got real!
Just noticed one mistake and then one bit funny bit I've missed. (Anyone, I won't tell!)
By the rate you're doing theses whith the modern equipement you have, I think you'll do a better, longer, punchier 2008's Christmas special than BBC this year.
And knowing your humor, I don't care at all how crazy it'll look. :D I just wish silently that you get a whole production team one day to work with you on whatever dream you may have. BTW, a bit late but Happy New Year!
Incidentally, I quite enjoyed the "Flight of the Darned" sequence in the other day's episode. Almost felt like an in-joke, after having watched this so many times.
@NPChilla. The second Quark's sign says: 'Point it the other way Poindexter' ('cos both signs are the wrong way round). I cut it short as it didn't really work!
I'm still trying to freeze frame on some of your signs in 5Docs. But, it's what makes us returns so often. A bit like the binomes in the background of ReBoot while there are two or three other things more important going on in the front action!
I can't still figure out if some of the 3D is really part of Kylie Minogue's video. But I was delighted to see some reuse of Dinosaurs Invasion so brilliantly used and SJSA.
Who the hell only voted this a 4??!! This is possibly the greatest fan video I have ever seen. In fact, I think this video alone justifies the existence of YouTube, possibly even teh internetz :D
THIS IS COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY A MASTERPIECE! Its hilarious on so many levels - like how anticipated explosions never happen, the bizarre settings and of course the CGI effects/wizardy is of an amazing standard! Your videos are superb!!!
That was truly amazing. You have a great deal of talent, and should be employed by the BBC immediately at a ridiculous wage. Congratulations! Excellent work!
OH. WOW. Truly awestruck. Amazing work, completely hilarious sequence. Adore the little cameos from past Doctor Who monsters... Alpha Centauri, the Quarks, the Rutan... Leslie Nielsen (oh, wait... he was from something else, wasn't he?). Seriously though: incredible stuff. Thanks, for the best laugh I've had a ages.
Your imagination is absolutely breathtaking. At what point does a person think to marry up Captain Stapley's mouth with a Kylie song?? You must be a genius... please make more more more!
(Adopts the expression Peter Davidstone always used when the Master ripped off his dodgy disguises.) "Farmergeddon71, I should have known..." I was trying to encourage viewers to watch your earlier stuff too. BTW, what is the Master's message after the Pharos Bank telescope is damaged? I can't quite make it out.
What a trip. Just when you think it can't get better, here comes Kylie!
TheDesugiga 4 months ago
Doctor: Captain Stapley! Did you have a good flight?
Stapley: HELLZ YEAH!!!!!
Trayusstudent1 5 months ago
So this is how "Time Crash" happened....
woolyjumpersandjam 6 months ago
That was just absolutely without a doubt fantastic, genius =)
BarneystudiozFilmz 6 months ago
Dude, you are a genious!!!
roden81 7 months ago
This is BRILLANT!!!
Jamfruns 7 months ago
This is nuts.... Is the nuts!!! Well done... Love it.... And true, if only time flight had been this good...
Spaceman13666 7 months ago
oh my god my sides hurt from laughing!!!!! fantastic
fenric71 10 months ago
To those asking about the music at 2:52, it's called '007' and was used as an alternate version of the James Bond theme in the early movies - first appeared in 'From Russia with Love' and last appearance was in 'Moonraker', as far as I know.
tbdanny 1 year ago
What makes this video for me is the attention to detail. And that Stapley/Minogue credit on the music video segment cracks me up every time.
tbdanny 1 year ago
4:48 LOL @ the Rutan. Along with pretty much everything else in this vid. Way better than the actual Time-Flight.
bbqplatypus318 1 year ago
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does anyone know the exact name of the music at 2:52 i cna't find it anywhere!
it would be nice if farmergeddon71 or someone who knows the exact name of it could tell me. it would be much apreciated as i need it A.S.A.P
dalekcaan4 1 year ago
u hav really clever vidoes, not just the visual effects but the random storyline as well. Like the toclafane and star wars. also I really like the long shot of places where u expect the place blow up but it doesn't and the missile just carries on. lol rofl lmao
BradamAllibourke 1 year ago
That was absolutely one of the best videos I have seen ever!
Monkofmagnesia 1 year ago
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COOL VERSION! I like it!
Check out mine if you get a chance! :)
Thanks Kirk
KirkYeomans 1 year ago
BRILLIANT!
RockerHU 1 year ago
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dwibs93 1 year ago
right... what the hell? :')
TheHalftimelord 1 year ago
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does anyone know the exact name of the music at 2:52
dalekcaan4 1 year ago
does anyone know the exact name of the music at 2:52
dalekcaan4 1 year ago
@dalekcaan4 Think its from diamonds are forever soundtrack
Primodummy92 1 year ago
Okay, I think I get the plot now:
They screwed up the plans of the Antony Ainley Master, so the John Simms Master gets revenge.
TylerCharlesFisher 1 year ago
Minutes 03:28 - 3:50 are made of WIN!!! That, and Five's constant 'all-this-sucks!' little faces!!! XDDD
danacartersgx 1 year ago
wow, haven't laughed this hard in a while. :D
manyhappyreturnskara 1 year ago
What's the episode where Sarah jane is having a mugshot taken?
And is it me, or does it look like the Doctor gets plane sick?
ApocalypseNext 1 year ago
@ApocalypseNext It's not that he gets plane sick, but that he doesn't have a lot of confidence in human's flying machines, and he's sort of nervous XD
danacartersgx 1 year ago
Now that was just plain silly. Top notch! XDDD
MatKumiko1981 2 years ago
What extras are you making for The space museum/The chase?
SpaceDJ3 2 years ago
Absolutely delicious! I'm in awe. Utterly.
happinesspatrol 2 years ago
OH, Alfa Centori is so sweet! "Take me back RTD!" Cute.
wiccankitten13 2 years ago 2
was that Obama
TheKINGFEDOR 2 years ago
Pure Gold! The delayed airbag in the end gets me every time! >XD
grimcooney 2 years ago
LOL That is brilliant and completely clever! :D
DonnaNoble1968 2 years ago 2
I love the way the 5th Doctor basically just sits there doing nothing.
neemz2000 2 years ago 15
Fabulous!
neemz2000 2 years ago
if only time flight had been this good.
FacePimpd 2 years ago 11
Bloody brilliant!
iamalandstander 2 years ago 2
Does anyone, ANYONE know from what film the soundbite "Oh god almighty?!" comes from!
It's at time index 1:19
Caredroia 2 years ago
@Caredroia. The 'God Almighty' soundbite is from a collection of Time Flight out-takes on the DVD.
farmergeddon71 2 years ago
Ha ha, I'd convinced myself it came from Withnail & I! LOL
Thanks for clearing that one up!
antliberationfront 2 years ago
Oh those Toclafane... Anything new on the horizon Farmer?
andyjimbo2006 2 years ago
@andyjimbo2006. Nothing for YouTube, but my next set of projects are on 'The Space Museum / Chase' boxset.
farmergeddon71 2 years ago
So no more youtube videos ever?
daleksfearthewhovian 2 years ago
@daleksfearthewhovian. Not as long as I work for 2|e. Simply isn't the time, sorry.
farmergeddon71 2 years ago
@farmergeddon71 But dude these are awesome..... Please may more videos ^_^
Maffy234 8 months ago
I’ve been buying the doctor who DVD’s religiously since 1999. In fact the first ever DVD I bought was Tomb of the Cybermen. I’m expecting the first volume of Doctor Who Revisitations to arrive this week, and I do hope that they do further volumes in the future, as the fist twelve releases were very sparse with its extras.
Still the restoration team does lovely work, so do all those who tirelessly work to make BBC DVD’s the best on the market!
By the way, that’s you Farmer.
Caredroia 1 year ago
i did the concorde crashing into the tardis for my xmas special in 2007 the story was based on the voyage of the damned and i named my story 'fight of the damned' it was set in space and the concorde was a space ship
BADWOLF200501 2 years ago
lol this is mint m8
doctorwhokris1980 2 years ago
Excellent stuff.
LaughingPsycho 2 years ago
lol
Threatgirl47 2 years ago
Amazing...
POPUPNIGHTMARE 2 years ago
This is the best!
CaptainPositron 2 years ago
The great thing about these videos of farmageddon's is that you always notice something new everytime you rewatch it.
AlbinoCaterpillar 2 years ago
Now *that's* a work of genius :o)
TheNavyWay 2 years ago
Oh that's just too good for words - LOVE IT!
Blackpoolstag 3 years ago
Hilarious! Nice work with the airbag!
Nice work Crashing the TARDIS,
Zero
ZeroGodOfJustice 3 years ago
I hope you return with a new vid soon Farmergeddon. This is still the best DW fan vid I've ever seen, your talent is nothing short of amazing.
CBTrekker 3 years ago
Thanks - and thanks to everyone who still posts comments on all my videos. More stuff is on the way - next year - and somewhere other than YouTube...
farmergeddon71 3 years ago
Let us know where then =)
CBTrekker 3 years ago
Yeah! Please tell! Please
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AlbinoCaterpillar 2 years ago
Instant sub.
greengrendel 3 years ago
Love it!
54spiritedwill54 3 years ago
that was amazing. how do you do that lol
EuskaltelEuskadi 3 years ago 2
that was cute, thank you for sharing it :)
SummersetHomes 3 years ago
What does the sign say that the Quark on the left has say?
Yetaxa 3 years ago
@Yetaxa. The Quark's sign says: 'Point it the other way Poindexter'. I cut it short as it didn't really work.
farmergeddon71 3 years ago
Excellent work. Great effects once again.
LaughingPsycho 3 years ago
Too many details to list make me chortle! I love the music. I love the sharp pull backs and cicada noises on the warehouse/barn and Death Star. I love how you've selected exactly the right close-up expressions for every gag. You hardly give a girl a chance to breathe for laughing!
Return to us your brilliant skill with an editing machine someday soon. It will be a bright day indeed!
TARDIS60 3 years ago
well done!!!
SpockBoy 3 years ago
what was that!?!? it was so random it was funny. :) and it was great!
buzzybee6 3 years ago
Fantastic! Lol I wonder was going off at first.
SimplyBen84 3 years ago
You, Sir, have far too much time, and far too much genius at your disposal. Love it!
randomdave79 3 years ago
Everything in this video is hilarious random XD
sharpk1ll3r 3 years ago
What in the world?!!! That was cool and weird...
IamtheDalek 3 years ago
ha ha ha. that ws funny as fuck. do another pne. i have seen youre 5 doctors. do another, do another, do another.
OwenDWF 3 years ago
Farmergeddon is a genius!
randomdave79 3 years ago
Wow, I'm just speechless. Absolutely amazing. Best DW fanvideo I've ever seen. Really.
SecretSmile90 3 years ago
Yeah. The editing was brilliant.
moviemonkeys 3 years ago
Possibly the best fan fid i have ever seen...EVER. the CG was brill. I love the scene at the end with the Tardis, but then again i just love the tardis
Looking foward to the next one.
gpenglim 3 years ago
having just found your stuff in the last couple of days I have to say, this is incredible, nothing short of amazing.
TheEverTwistedOne 3 years ago
This is an epic win! How do you make this so well? :) all CGI you did was so convincing.
CBTrekker 3 years ago
@CBTrekker. Thanks. Although YouTube's resolution helps hide some of the joins!
farmergeddon71 3 years ago
I'm suprised the BBC don't hire you to do CGI for the actual series. I look forward to your next video :)
CBTrekker 3 years ago
This = WINS the internet.
duckorange 3 years ago
Holy CRAP was that an epic fanvid. :O
tobascodagama 3 years ago 2
Love it!
hippynmagic 3 years ago
ROFLMAO! had to watch this several times cos I was laughing so hard...TimeFlight, Toclafane, chipmunk!master and Kylie too!! keep up the good work!
Thetanomine 3 years ago
Brilliant!
JohnCallaghanMusic 3 years ago
so funny good editing good effects wat did the second quark sign say?
alonsyalonso 3 years ago
CBBC Selected
KiraNWilfort 3 years ago
Hahahaha, again, brilliant editing nd timing. The cuts between scenes work very well. Just brilliant. I'm on meds, gonna go now.
thereisnoMacra 3 years ago
Farmer, roughly when are we likely to see more from you?
andyjimbo2006 3 years ago
@andyjimbo2006. Don't worry, there's plenty more 'in the tank'. However, at the moment I'm simply just too busy with other things! Lets just say that, (hopefully), it won't be so much a case of when -as where...
farmergeddon71 3 years ago
The Master's going to have a bitch of a time trying to intimidate the entire universe with a chipmunk's voice.
sophomorictrash 3 years ago
That was absolutely brilliant!!! How the hell do you do that??? I love all your videos and i aspire to make videos like that one day in the future (but probably won't be able to make videos as good as yours)!!! Keep making more briliant videos!!! Please
BritishAlienCompany 4 years ago
how long did that take you to edit?
Amazing, thank you.
rasskin 4 years ago
@rasskin. It took about two and a half months (on and off) to make.
farmergeddon71 4 years ago
rescue men RTD hehe
Dalek1230 4 years ago
LOL that just kept getting better and better!!
Death star, hangar... TARDIS collision... !
well done...
armadillozenith 4 years ago
exellent , pure genius, they get better and better
beaton67 4 years ago
Wow!
TheFacelessOnes 4 years ago
The Master Like
DrunkenCodeMaster 4 years ago
OMG! Is it Sarah Jane Smith's mug-shot in the music video?
Sarahjane2x 4 years ago
No it isn't... Those mugshots were used from The classic series story Invasion of The Dinosaurs..Thought I'd let you know! ^_^
ChrisPrime1bot 3 years ago
Fantastic! The first half had me in........pecies!
dalekcaan4 4 years ago
farmergeddon, i actually want your babies :p
OJTV 4 years ago
this video is completely awsome
adama001 4 years ago
WTF!?! :)
EvilEuropean 4 years ago
Brilliant, liked the inclusion of The Quarks
Johnny1989a 4 years ago
Fantastic! The first half had me in stitches!
policebox2007 4 years ago
WOW!
fabulousminge 4 years ago
Good Stuff!!!!!!
djphillyb 4 years ago
That's incredible! How did you do that?!
thegreattotemaster 4 years ago
Fantastic! The first half had me in stitches!
QueenHare 4 years ago
Best mash-up ever!
mardy69 4 years ago
Fantastic
dominion1976 4 years ago
Fantastic, 5 Stars All the way I would have given more
SilverShadow1955 4 years ago
I've just seen Timeflight finally lately and... Unfortunately for BBC, Farmer... Well in less than 6 unaired minutes you keep managed to beat it up, plus the previous VOTD I earlier mentionned.
If you get an account at Metacafe with your own original material, then tell me so I'll give you more hit there each day for your pockets if you get on their payment plans!
Errata2007 4 years ago
@Errata2007. Loving your detailed analysis of FOTD! Anyway, for the record, the 3d Cell Shaded 'Nautical' stuff in the Kylie sequence is all mine. It grew from the need to link together a diverse range of video clips and kylie 'looks'. Originally it was was to have been one long shot -then I got real!
farmergeddon71 4 years ago
Just noticed one mistake and then one bit funny bit I've missed. (Anyone, I won't tell!)
By the rate you're doing theses whith the modern equipement you have, I think you'll do a better, longer, punchier 2008's Christmas special than BBC this year.
And knowing your humor, I don't care at all how crazy it'll look. :D I just wish silently that you get a whole production team one day to work with you on whatever dream you may have. BTW, a bit late but Happy New Year!
Errata2007 4 years ago
@Errata2007:
Amen!
farmergeddon71 4 years ago
Stunning editing compositing animating and fabulously funny
jamiemcrimmon 4 years ago 2
brilliant editing work!
cyberleaderjim 4 years ago 2
I was explecting that warehouse to blow up...the I expected the Deathstar to blow up XD full of unexpected gags...
Dinosaur *Ancient Roar*, * Ancient-er Roar*
Other Dinosaur: "Pwnd." XD
MAZZ0Murder 4 years ago 2
This is the fucking bomb!!!!
ZoahLord 4 years ago 4
And it's a bit of an understatement just as compliment! ~_^
I really look at this more often than Voyage Of The Damned. Can you believe this?
Errata2007 4 years ago 3
Great and funny!
JohnMacnee 4 years ago 2
Incidentally, I quite enjoyed the "Flight of the Darned" sequence in the other day's episode. Almost felt like an in-joke, after having watched this so many times.
aderack 4 years ago
Hillarious! And really good editing job :D
ClassicalSorrow 4 years ago
Brilliant, more please.
heat000 4 years ago
Fantastic effects and a wicked sense of humour. Well done!!
But I have to ask - what did the second Quark's sign say?
NPChilla 4 years ago
@NPChilla. The second Quark's sign says: 'Point it the other way Poindexter' ('cos both signs are the wrong way round). I cut it short as it didn't really work!
farmergeddon71 4 years ago
Oh no don't do it! Leave a bit of mystery!
I'm still trying to freeze frame on some of your signs in 5Docs. But, it's what makes us returns so often. A bit like the binomes in the background of ReBoot while there are two or three other things more important going on in the front action!
I can't still figure out if some of the 3D is really part of Kylie Minogue's video. But I was delighted to see some reuse of Dinosaurs Invasion so brilliantly used and SJSA.
Errata2007 4 years ago 2
The Kylie sequence is a bit long, but the rest is genius.
Saternalius 4 years ago
You're a genius!
An editing genius - but that's still a KIND of genius!
snossis 4 years ago
at 1:12, the doctor's face..hahahaha
Timeforthaunted 4 years ago
f***ing inspired!
especially love the bit where the pilot lip syncs to kylie
you should def get a job on who
have to agree bond music was inpired
photoney 4 years ago
what!?..... What!!!!!
WHAT!!!?!!!?????!!!!
weirdkerr 4 years ago
WoW! Did you add the plane yourself!
VintageRomana 4 years ago
@VintageRomana. Yes, I added Concorde. Although some (the cloud shots) are from 'Time Flight'.
farmergeddon71 4 years ago
Oh and how could I forget 'Airplane!' and Bond...
mirimmer 4 years ago
Bizarrely brilliant.
Highlights for me were the Toclafane BBC One logo, the animated sequence and again the astonishing effects.
If only 'Time-Flight' had those effects...
mirimmer 4 years ago
*laugh!* OMG, amazing...
Wow...professional standard. ...I'm...in awe. Thanks for sharing!!
Shifterred 4 years ago
AMAZING i laughed so hard i wet myself...wel not really. but i did laugh alot
drantb 4 years ago
in the words of the doctor... "Fantastic"
EmilyDown 4 years ago
BRILLIANT!
thatenglishkid 4 years ago
i like the bit with bbc one in it LOL! and the rest is BRILLIANT! YOU ARE THE BEST!!!!!!!!
tom4307 4 years ago
Who the hell only voted this a 4??!! This is possibly the greatest fan video I have ever seen. In fact, I think this video alone justifies the existence of YouTube, possibly even teh internetz :D
jamespotter76 4 years ago
THIS IS COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY A MASTERPIECE! Its hilarious on so many levels - like how anticipated explosions never happen, the bizarre settings and of course the CGI effects/wizardy is of an amazing standard! Your videos are superb!!!
eaglestriker147 4 years ago
LOL! The Master's gleeful clapping made it all worth it.
ObscurusLupa 4 years ago
Absolutely superb!
Words fail me sir, words quite fail me!
arcadesupplies 4 years ago
all I can say is WOW!
DarkEternal09 4 years ago
that almost redeemed "Time-Flight" and justified its creation in the first place.
nozup4u 4 years ago 3
that was fantastic.
Tlotoxl 4 years ago
Too funny for words!!! Ha! I needed the chuckle this morning... very impressive!
russwho1 4 years ago
Simply AMAZING!!! Thanks for the laughs!!!
jrhmahoch 4 years ago
OGMWTFTARDISFTW
arkansasbrad 4 years ago
That was truly amazing. You have a great deal of talent, and should be employed by the BBC immediately at a ridiculous wage. Congratulations! Excellent work!
mtabernac 4 years ago
OH. WOW. Truly awestruck. Amazing work, completely hilarious sequence. Adore the little cameos from past Doctor Who monsters... Alpha Centauri, the Quarks, the Rutan... Leslie Nielsen (oh, wait... he was from something else, wasn't he?). Seriously though: incredible stuff. Thanks, for the best laugh I've had a ages.
scorpiobadboy 4 years ago
Very good.
frankiewilliams 4 years ago
Oh wow, well done, absoloutely fantastic. I think that's the best spoof I've ever seen - nevermind DW spoof, ANY spoof, EVER.
Bravo =]
PerkyElli 4 years ago
Simply THE best Doctor Who spoof in the history of Doctor Who spoofs ever - bar none! More please!!!
dibber07 4 years ago
HAHAHA!!!
babalubro3 4 years ago
You are a king amongst men.
themindrobber 4 years ago
Brilliant! Thanks, I seriously needed a good chuckle today.
dustyboots27 4 years ago
Your imagination is absolutely breathtaking. At what point does a person think to marry up Captain Stapley's mouth with a Kylie song?? You must be a genius... please make more more more!
andyjimbo2006 4 years ago
Bloody brilliant. Yay!!!
hergrace 4 years ago
This is fantastic! I laughed so mcuh I cried! :D
xJadexSx 4 years ago
I don't I've ever found anything on DW so funny, cept your 5 Doctors Spoof and the Cybermen Call Centre. Great Work, amd please keep making stuff! :)
DerektheDalek 4 years ago
Very amusing.
southsea1984 4 years ago
Inspired madness! Almost as good as Farmeggeddon71's Five Doctor's spoof (Which, if you haven't watched yet, you should).
BewilderedBadger 4 years ago
@BewilderedBadger
Ha, Ha! Come on, you must know that was me too...?
farmergeddon71 4 years ago
(Adopts the expression Peter Davidstone always used when the Master ripped off his dodgy disguises.) "Farmergeddon71, I should have known..." I was trying to encourage viewers to watch your earlier stuff too. BTW, what is the Master's message after the Pharos Bank telescope is damaged? I can't quite make it out.
BewilderedBadger 4 years ago
The Master says '...the choice for you all is simple.' -as he does in Logopolis.
Only this time he uses his 'compromised-by-a-supersonic-aircraft' voice.
farmergeddon71 4 years ago
LOL!!!!!
TheRudeFrogs 4 years ago